#and disgusted thinking he brought kreese back into their lives - their bc kreese also pretty majorly fucked with daniel too
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DANIEL LARUSSO AND JOHNNY LAWRENCE COBRA KAI SEASON 4 EPISODE 5 daniel's reaction to johnny's dismissal and missing the point.
#all your tags were great - esp that it's disingenuous to say what happened to daniel and johnny was exactly the same#in the same way there were things uniquely terrible and affecting to johnny in the way Kreese got to him#there were uniquely terrible ways terry got to daniel. that he probably couldn't articulate in the same way johnny couldn't to him#of course johnny does get empathy and 'he's not a monster' and an explanation and attempts at reaching out even when daniels pissed#and disgusted thinking he brought kreese back into their lives - their bc kreese also pretty majorly fucked with daniel too#i just can't believe the fact that EVEN THIS is about how sad this is for johnny and what it means for him that he can't realize how he waa#*was mistreated :(. like dude#STINGRAY is more similarly manipulated and actively does lash out because he doesn't want to believe it of himself -#'you must have done something to deserve it'#and he has a more pivotal role in taking silver down and showing through actions that he does respect daniel#Johnny's glad he's not dead I guess? & is fine having him hang out at his place sometimes#i honestly don't think this conversation ever crosses his mind again. at MOST we get him and Chozen and mike agreeing for daniel#that he's 'lying down and taking it' if he doesn't go bring the fight to Terry. which tbh BC they never talk about any of this#feels like from Johnny's end its more about the time terry beat HIM up (again exactly like daniel warned him about)#like please don't get me wrong - i would have loved Johnny to get it here. i wanted him to have the Stingray moment of holy shit#thats a line crossed and i see what happened to me and I see how it affected him I'm helping him help us out of this#i think he respects that daniel can fight better than he could as a teen but yeah it's so hard to believe he has any empathy or#lol mercy for him at all#which you can say stems from his own insecurities and inability to get over the way he grew up sure. but frankly if you do#i think it's equally depressing that daniel after years of bullying is so desperate for a friend he's willing to accept that#to accept that surely he's always the monster here and he's lucky anyone stays with him. that he's irrational and paranoid#funnily enough exactly what Terry would have liked him to believe too. but he kicked him in the face its all good now#until 20 yrs after this when that becomes Daniel's fault and villainous turn too#ck negativity
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