#and Misery Loves Company (DEX) which are all by the same creator Circus-P
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Honestly though saying (or implying) that vocaloid or vocal synths in general "devalues the human voice" is SUCH an incredibly shit take for SO many reasons.
Like yeah Saki Fujita getting so many other roles in voice acting because of her contribution to Hatsune Miku (the anime cameos and stuff are usually done with her original voice, them modified to be robotic) is a bit of an outlier when most other vocaloid and sythns don't have that influence.
You can even sort of wave off the dozens upon dozens of people who go for realistic tuning- like whenever a synth has any sort of clarity, there are like five people commenting about how real they sound. Clearly people do still care about human sounding vocals, because they go nuts over realistic vtuning.
There are many different aspects of vocaloid that use human voices, too- from Set It Off's duet "Why Do I?", human rap artists using Miku's vocals as background, and the entire CONCEPT of Project Sekai which releases AND COMMISSIONS songs for vocal synths and real people.
But the sheer number of vocaloid producers who use their own vocals as back up (MikitoP, PinoochioP, and I believe Kira off the top of my head), the number of producers who can sing and/or do self covers (again Kira, GIGA, Ayase, Teniwoha, syudou and so many more), and the amount of vocal producers who have gone forward with legit musical careers after working with vocaloid (Kenshi Yonezu, most notably, who did work for years under the alias Hachi)
I mean, hell. There are vocaloid producers who go on to become vocaloid vocals themselves- like nostraightanswer, the vocal provider for DEX, who has made both vocaloid and original songs. Some even duets.
That's not even including creators like JubyPhonic, Rachie, Will Stenson, Lollia, Octavia, Razzy and Co., and SO many other HUMAN cover artists who gained following or honed their skills on none other than vocaloid covers. (And that's just a handful of English Cover artists, not like Sati Akura a Russian cover artist or Ado who has commissioned songs from vocaloid artists)
It's also not including UTAUites who input their own voices to use for covers.
"Devalues the human voice" is such blatant bs. They ARE human voices. They are OUR voices. "You'd think by now that we would have learned, behind every piece if art is a human to be heard." (- CircusP, 'Better Off Worse')
#and another thing#about bad faith interpretations#'it isn't that creative'#is just astronomically funny to me#because oh yeah I forgot how Detrimental (Maki ft. Big Al) sounds EXACTLY like Afraid Of Everything (Luka) and Better Off Worse (vFlower)#and Misery Loves Company (DEX) which are all by the same creator Circus-P#Usseewa sounds EXACTLY like Idiot and Cute Girlfriend (sydou)#Piece Of Art sounds exactly like Machine Gun and Games and Boom! Boom! Boom! (Kira)#hell even producers like DECO and wowaka who have styles that they tend to follow still sound differeng#Rollin Girl. Unknown Mother Goose. Two Faced Lovers- they're all distinct songa#Animal. Cinderella. Vampire. Zombies. and other DECO songs from the same line are still all uniquely different#hell 'no creativity'?#say that to (Not) A Devil where Miku duets HERSELF in the tuning style of two different producers (DECO*27 and Pinocchio P)#the people making duet covers with UTAU and VSythn Teto#vocaloid has always been a haven for creatives#for the artists who draw. the designers who make outfits. tuners. lyricists. MV makers. cover artists.#I'd say there's never been a more cohesively creative community#which is a little biased but genuinely#there's such an incredible outreach from the community as it grows#as it has grown
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