#and 6-0 if they’re lucky

[kivino]

KIVI, YOU SWEET ANGEL YOU.

can you write a price x gn!paramedic!reader where price is on leave, and maybe he gets into a car accident that isn’t too bad so he refuses to go to the hospital, but the cute paramedic keeps insisting on at least checking him out in the ambulance……….. 😋

DOUBLE VISION || JOHN 'BRAVO 0-6' PRICE X PARAMEDIC!GN!READER

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Tags/Warnings – mentions of car crash, intoxication, medical examinations, fluff, first meeting, and lack of medical professionalism, lmao.

A/n – PLSS I HOPE YOU LIKE IT POOKIE, IT TOOK ME A HOT MINUTE TO GET TO THE REQUEST I’M SORRY MWAH. also credits for the name go to @mockerycrow as well, they’re a genious and have the biggest brain out of the two of us.

ao3 link for this fic

It’s always a slow process for John - getting used to the slow, civilian ways when he finally gets his leaves approved. When he spends so much time on the field, more often than not he starts to forget about “the other side” of life. Lack of noise, mundane mornings, and silent nights come and with them, the all-encompassing feeling of loneliness starts to set in his gut. John gets reminded about the lack of anyone’s presence in his life. No one is waiting for him back home, and no one will probably be any time soon, with how work takes over most of his free time. And then the captain remembers he’s not getting any younger.

Of course, he had plenty of experience and relationships before, but none of them lasted until now when his hair was already graying and wrinkles were starting to riddle his face here and there. John wasn’t insecure about his age, no, because that would be foolish, really, rather it was the fact that he had no one to share with all the years that were ahead of him.

What John also had a hard time getting used to was driving the busy streets of London with its crazy drivers after months of not getting behind the wheel, which brings him to this moment. Well, it really was on him for trying to get somewhere after happy hour in all the pubs in the area ended, he should’ve probably anticipated some drunk idiot would want to drive back home today. John wasn’t in the right headspace at the moment to fill out all the paperwork and figure out who was in the wrong. His thoughts were far away from here. Probably all the impact from the airbag and the hit.

He’s had it worse before, of course, so some bruises and scratches here and there wasn’t something he couldn’t handle. John felt some pulsing pain in his knee, making it harder to stand upright, and a bit of an ache in his neck from the whiplash, but again, it wasn’t as bad as getting thrown into the wall by an explosion or falling out of a damn helicopter.

So now he has to spend the whole evening working out things with the police and that drunk idiot who bumped into him, freezing his ass off in the rain. Just perfect. John feels a surge of annoyance and exhaustion wash over him, he pinches his brow, letting out an impatient sigh. Cops have arrived on the scene already and started examining the two collided vehicles, after putting around some traffic cones so some other lucky fellas don’t decide to join in on the fun. From his spot on the sidewalk, John can also see the paramedics, who had to get involved because as soon as cops started questioning that drunk guy, he decided to scrunch into himself and show the world all the contents of his stomach. As if it needed to get even more complicated than it already was.

“Excuse me, sir? You’re the other…driver involved in the accident?” John suddenly hears a voice, a bit on the quiet side, which brings him out of his thoughts that involve strangling somebody in a variety of different ways. And oh, his nights instantly become tens, if not thousands of times better when he sees the owner of said voice.

Judging by the identifying markings you were a paramedic, and a very cute one at that, with your dull green uniform and a big jacket on, brows tied together in a concerned expression. Oh, and your eyes, they looked absolutely lovely in the low streetlights. Price is taken aback for the moment, forgetting every word in his vocabulary. He feels his heart starting to beat faster, blood flowing through his veins so fast he’s sure if it wasn’t for the evening darkness he’d most likely resemble a tomato. But then John realizes he must say something because just staring at you would just make him seem like some old creep. And he absolutely didn’t want that.

“Yes, that would be me.” He speaks up after clearing his throat. You nod to that, attentive gaze still on him. John then adds on after a short pause, which took him to let out a deep sigh. “You need me for anything?” Anything. Something. Please.

“Just checking up.” John feels his heart melt at that small smile that grazes your lips, making it obvious you’re satisfied with his answer. “You seem to be holding up better than the other driver.” You joke in an attempt to either lighten up the mood, which John appreciates, or to calm yourself a bit. It didn’t escape him how you seemed a little shaky. It was Friday night, so today’s shift might have been rough on you. Always the Friday nights.

“Well, anyone would hold up better than that bloke.” He jokes with a bit of abandon, a low chuckle escaping his lips, as he starts to overthink himself. John suddenly feels like a dumb teenager, which is never a good sign, especially when there is someone he’s interested in right in front of him. Price feels like his laugh is too rough, stance is too relaxed and everything is just a bit too much when your eyes are on him. Oh, he’s so going to embarrass himself.

“True, but let’s not tell him that.” You give a quiet laugh and John’s worries die down a little. Not completely, but enough to let his eyes get glued to your face. “How are you feeling? Is there any abnormal pain, anything unusual or out of the ordinary?” Oh, so you’re the type to get straight to business, huh? Interesting. Price liked that. “If there’s anything wrong we’ll get you right to the hospital.” Price declined when he got asked about the hospital before by another paramedic because there was no way he was going to spend even more time out of his house because of some minor scratches. But if it meant you’ll be there, he’s calling dibs on the seat beside you in the ambulance truck, dear lord.

“My knee’s complaining a bit, love.” John can see your eyes going as big as two shiny coins when you hear that pet name, which, to be fair, slipped out completely unintentionally. However, by the way you instantly light up in another shy smile, he can tell you don’t really mind it, so his nervousness caused by this… “happy accident”, comes down again. “Some bruises, but I’m not about to hold you up because of those.”

“Oh, well, that’s alright, come with me and I can check you out…” You stutter over your words while talking a bit too quickly and once you understand what you said, an annoyed groan comes out of you. Way to embarrass yourself. “I mean, check your knee out in the ambulance, alright?” You again shoot him a smile. Which probably is in vain, since he’s a patient at the moment, and you’re at work, and that’s very much frowned upon, but what can you do? You don’t meet a man like that everywhere. He looks a bit rough around the edges, but that’s part of the charm.

“I’m sure your hands are already full with that hero of the day over there, I’m good.” What. The fuck. Are you doing. John. The only chance he gets to talk to you and he’s blowing it, for fuck’s sake. He didn’t know why he said that. Maybe not to seem desperate in a very self-sabotaging way, but that’s just. Oh, John, you’re too old for playing some damn games with someone you like.

“You know what? I insist.” Your voice is lower and rougher. And when you top it off with another one of your sweet smiles and a gentle touch on his shoulder? John is a gone man. Turning into complete mush, putty, if you will. God, for this perfect smile he was ready to smash and repair every single house appliance and pipe in your house.

“Alright then. Anything for you, love, lead the way.” And you did, with your hand resting softly on his back, helping him forward. John wished you would’ve been bolder with your touch, so he could feel more than just a light graze, but still. It felt good.

And then he finds himself in the back of the ambulance truck, this cramped, tiny space making him hold his breath from being so goddamn nervous in your presence. You told him to take a seat while rummaging through some cabinets and various medical bags for something. Seemingly not finding anything that you needed you spoke up to him again.

“Okay, now let me see your knee, sir.” You mumbled while kneeling in front of him, your eyes concentrated on the man. He didn’t mind you calling him sir at all. John was so used to being called that, but right now it just spread that very pleasant warm feeling inside of him.

“Well, I’m not taking my pants off. Not without a dinner first.” Price chuckled, as he tried rolling up one of his pants legs. And, well, his statement wasn’t that far from the truth. The whole deal with examination was a bit awkward to begin with, so he didn’t want to make it even worse.

“I’ll think about it, big guy.” You chuckle, as you finally start looking at his knee, small, feather-light touches sending sparks over Price’s skin. So, you enjoyed teasing him like that, huh? In combination with that nice, sweet smile? Oh, John is sold. He definitely should you invite somewhere while he still has time on his leave. But before he can open his mouth to make a brave offer you speak up again. “Looks like you have a minor sprain in here, your knee’s all swollen. I’ll apply some elastic bandages, that you’re going to have to wear for some time and redo yourself. But overall you seem to be doing good” Price couldn’t help but feel like that last remark wasn’t about his health.

“Yeah. Yeah. That’s all fine with me, love. Do what you have to.” You only nod in response, spending some time rummaging in the cupboards once again and emerging victorious with a roll of elastic bandages in your hands. You return to your previous position in front of John, and adjust his knee with a firm hand, mumbling a quiet “Hold still, please”. Oh, he’d freeze for centuries if you had asked him to. But he does, and as you wrap the bandage around his knee, which just kept pulsing with hot pain, he couldn’t help but admire you. The trained movements, the concentrated gaze, the warm touch…Maybe he really should act on his thoughts. Maybe it’s his chance. Maybe something can work out and this accidental meeting will become…something more.

Price wanted it to become something more.

His imagination ran rampant, picturing you wearing something nice and fancy, in case you do agree on a date. John totally should not be thinking this when you were right there, finally putting some finishing touches on his knee bandaging, so he forced them out of his mind and cleared his throat. Here goes nothing. But before Price can even utter a single sound you’re already being called over by your colleague. Guess he’ll just have to wait until you’re free of your duties, huh?

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[phregnancy]

favorite moments in ditl manchester, london, and festive (essentially me describing the entirety of each video)

i would’ve added pictures but tumblr won’t allow more than 30 to be added

ditl manchester

0:30 - phil asking dan if he can come into his bedroom, dan saying no, phil asking if that means yes and entering.

0:58 - dan doesn’t wear pajamas to sleep but he wears them around the house before getting on his clothes for the day.

1:05 - phil thinking they’re out of cereal, dan pulls his own box out and tells phil he hides cereal from him because he’s always eating it.

1:16 - dan carrying 10+ bags of groceries alone and phil waiting for dan to return. delicate princess fr.

1:39 - dan’s response to phil buying a kilo of cereal. ‘we’re not a family of ten, phil’

2:13 - phil calling his frosted wheats and shreddies combination ‘frosted shreddies’ and dan pointing out that frosted shreddies are already a thing.

2:30 - phil making fun of dan’s incredibly loud sneeze and dan deadpanning.

4:42 - phil telling dan he wanted a fancy chocolate egg for easter, dan points out how expensive it is, phil says please in a soft voice.

6:53 - phil showing the ecco the dolphin game, both of them laughing and talking about how bad the game was.

7:42 - phil showing a bunch of mannequin legs that are displaying socks/tights and dan joking about the holes in the mannequin legs being for leg-hole perverts, making phil laugh.

7:48 - dan saying that they need to get dollars to put into stripper’s underwear, and phil loudly shushing him and telling him not to talk about that.

8:12 - the most insane case of love eyes lester, looking right behind the camera pointed at him.

8:39 - the backpack phil was carrying is now being carried by dan :)

8:57 - playing video games during their milkshake date.

9:26 - phil running on a wet ledge and dan saying ‘and phil is in his own little world again’ before telling phil not to trip.

9:36 - dan telling phil to dance in the lift and phil dances too enthusiastically, shaking the elevator, and phil pouting.

10:15 - dan says that dollars are the perfect consistency for putting in strippers, phil corrects him and says not in strippers, in their waistbands.

10:42 - phil going to the shop to buy soy sauce but they were out so he bought a candy instead because he doesn’t like going into stores and not buying anything, dan telling him he needs to stop doing that from the other room, and phil jumps and quickly puts the camera down. like he didn’t mean for dan to hear that and he got caught, like they’ve had this conversation multiple times.

11:45 - phil whining about dan opening phil’s twinkie with his teeth, putting his mouth on phil’s food. like they weren’t planning on sharing that twinkie, like they haven’t put their mouths on each other before.

12:54 - they’re sharing a kinder egg and phil excitedly goes ‘i wanna get the toy, i wanna get the toy’ and takes it out of the egg that’s in dan’s hand. and dan just lets him no fuss.

13:38 - phil editing the video in dan’s bedroom.

13:57 - dan telling phil to play his keyboard and phil playing the bubble bobble theme.

ditl london

0:47 - phil asking dan if he wants cereal, offering to make him a bowl, dan asking what cereal they have, phil explaining the options, and dan smiling at phil fondly as he picks lucky charms.

1:28 - ‘me and phil get up in the morning to watch baking programs’, the habit of them getting up together and having a designated morning show.

1:38 - phil poking fun at what’s happening in the show they’re watching, basically just describing what happened, and dan laughing because he thinks everything phil says is hilarious.

1:50 - phil wanting to put a kitten sticker on dan’s macbook, dan not letting him, and phil putting the sticker on dan’s arm instead.

2:35 - dan realizing that phil put a kitten sticker on his piano, trying to sound frustrated when confronting phil about it but still sounding incredibly fond, phil laughing and justifying his action.

4:01 - dan realizing their light was broken, asking phil about it assuming phil already knew, phil talking about it like he did know and didn’t tell dan.

5:14 - dan filming phil trying to zip up his pants, phil getting embarrassed and telling him to stop filming when he realizes, dan starting to walk away, and phil saying ‘i’ve done it, i’ve done it’ in the background.

6:30 - dan suggesting phil get a schoolgirl outfit, phil saying yes and that he thinks it would suit him, dan saying it would So suit him and that they can act out tentacle fanfiction.

6:49 - phil squealing because of a wasp and dan asking him what happened.

7:14 - phil’s excitement over stumbling upon the cafe they were going to while aimlessly walking.

7:24 - dan filming phil entertaining himself and spinning in his chair, asking if he’s okay, phil laughing and saying ‘yep!’ with a big smile. :) just checking in <3

7:36 - dan puncturing phil’s drink and putting his straw in for him, without having to be asked, before handing it over to phil.

7:50 - phil saying a man just poked him in the spine. why do weird things always happen to him when he goes outside

8:55 - dan saying phil got shouted at for climbing and sitting on a lion statue, dan making a(n offensive) joke in phil’s defense.

9:22 - dan not noticing that phil is filming him at first and laughing and smiling when he does.

9:42 - phil asking dan if he looks cool in the space bomber, dan telling him that he Does actually look really cool and that most people couldn’t pull it off but phil can.

10:16 - phil asking chris if his bedroom is where the magic happens, chris motioning towards his bed and saying that’s where he practices magic, and all of them laughing.

10:25 - dan making fun of them being out at a traditional english pub, because they’re not traditionally manly men, and poking fun at phil ordering a not so manly raspberry beer, and saying that’s So phil.

10:40 - dan and phil realizing that the sticker phil put on dan’s arm that morning was still there and laughing at him having walked around with it all day.

10:58 - chris and phil hug <3

11:08 - dan starts singing a song about their dark hallway and phil joins in.

11:59 - phil sitting on the counter when telling dan what food he’s in the mood for.

12:15 - dan cutting up peppers with a meat cleaver?

12:26 - dan trying to keep a straight face but phil snorts which causes him to laugh.

12:35 - dan adding seasoning from a packet into the pan while phil is stirring with a spatula. phil’s other hand is free, he could’ve done both, but no dan needed to help they needed to do it together.

13:08 - they were discussing what their favorite word arts used to be.

13:32 - they’re play fighting and dan is making light movements to tap and poke phil and phil is cowering away and squealing at every light jab, meanwhile is unsuccessfully closed fist trying to punch dan and dan is just brushing phil’s hands off.

14:00 - phil interrupting dan while he was playing piano and telling him to continue playing, which dan does while phil’s watches.

ditl festive

1:08 - dan has the camera pointed toward himself but he isn’t speaking to it, he is looking at phil and talking directly to phil when telling him how on their agenda for the day, they will be putting up their christmas tree.

1:16 - phil’s so hungry and he asks dan if he’s had breakfast yet, dan says ‘no, not yet’. then dan smiles as he explains that they’ve been waiting for each other to wake up to have breakfast, so they can have breakfast together and watch anime.

1:38 - dan sings the circle of life as phil talks about his cereal rotation, phil joins in but instead of singing whatever the proper words are he adds his own cereal themed spin on the lyrics. dan is attempting to look over it, done with him, but instead he looks incredibly fond.

1:51 - dan asks what phil’s doing sitting next to the fireplace, phil’s warming himself up and they have a laugh about it. then dan in a softer voice warns phil not to lean back too far, as not to get burned.

2:31 - dan telling phil that he got a package with new shoes and proceeds to put them on the table, phil has a genuine mini freak out because of the superstition that putting shoes on a table will bring serious misfortune, dan doesn’t let phil’s anxiety rise for even a second before telling phil it’s actually a coat.

3:01 - leaning into each other and posing while showing off their christmas jumpers.

3:24 - dan asks phil if he’s blown out the candle he lit earlier and goes on to explain that he asked because phil constantly leaves lit candles unattended, phil is a little embarrassed and tells dan that he doesn’t and that he’s editing that out of the video (which he doesn’t)

3:40 - both of them checking themselves out in the mirror and fixing their hair.

3:49 - dan asks phil if there’s a spider on his head and phil tries to prank (their version of a ‘prank’) dan by telling him there is a spider, and poking his hair, dan can tell phil’s not being serious and gives him that fond i’m so done look and phil makes himself giggle at his own joke.

4:31 - dan offers phil £100 to lick his hand that’s touching the rail on the train, phil goes to do it before laughing and stopping. they do that to each other all the time, make little dares to do silly stupid things that they don’t actually expect the other to do.

4:57 - they’re walking to their intended destination and they come across a starbucks, phil wants to go inside and try their christmas drinks, dan questions this, but ultimately they make a spontaneous pitstop so phil can try the drinks. what phil wants, phil gets.

5:11 - another little dare, this time from phil, daring dan to lick the window.

5:15 - phil tells dan his christmas tree drawing on the window is festive in a singsongy voice, dan lets out a breathy laugh as he smiles the biggest smile while looking directly at phil.

5:32 - dan calls phil out, without any bitterness or frustration in his voice, for abandoning conversation during their lunch (at the place phil wanted to stop at) to play phone games. knowing that phil is a phone game fiend, this is probably a recurring issue.

6:00 - dan gets phil’s attention and points out a bus that says penguins, then they both say penguins to each other in a silly voice. pointing things out to each other and being silly :) probably something they do all day long :)

6:23 - phil shows a comic called terrible lizard and says that in a silly voice, dan lets out a quiet laugh from behind the camera and when phil turns the camera to him, he makes a dinosaur face, which makes phil laugh. the silly voices and doing things to make each other laugh :)) <3

7:35 - dan asks phil to tell him what just happened, phil says a man came up to him and woofed in his ear, which dan laughed at and then turned the camera around to say that he thinks phil dramatizes his weird experiences and mimicked phil dramatizing an experience.

8:11 - they poke fun at astrology and come up with very generic horoscopes, phil tells dan that he’s going to have dreams, dan tells phil that he’s going to have sex. and dan would know.

8:28 - dan shares that he wants to take up running as they pass a running shop and they both laugh about it, seems as if phil didn’t want to go into the running shop and waits for dan outside.

9:18 - phil makes dan stop and points out the moomin shop, dan’s curious and phil tells dan that they’re going in there and starts walking without waiting. he won’t go into a running shop with dan, but he will Tell dan to go into a shop with him, and dan Will follow. simp.

9:28 - phil points out a vendor selling mulled wine and says that he wants it and wants to feel more festive, dan asks phil if they should ask for some, and phil jokes that they’re not going to just steal it. dan simping again, if phil wants something then he will have it.

10:13 - they pass kings cross and phil asks dan if he wants to go to hogwarts, dan says that they’d hit the wall, phil tells dan that he doesn’t believe in the magic, and dan lets out a breathy laugh and smiles widely. not even a funny joke, not even really a joke, but everything about phil makes dan laugh and smile.

10:42 - dan carrying the tree into the lounge. obviously. because phil doesn’t like heavy things.

11:10 - the tiniest mini spat over phil sitting where the tree needs to go, trying to defend his seating placement, and dan gesturing wildly as he’s suggesting phil move.

12:01 - phil carrying something heavy, something he Can lift on his own (as he did lift it from their storage cupboard to the living room) but asking dan for help as soon as he’s close, and dan immediately going to help him set the container of christmas decorations down. phil gets what he wants always.

12:06 - dan suggesting phil does a christmas face and phil makes a weird face, causing dan to let out a hearty laugh. phil suggests dan do the same, dan makes a weird face, and phil laughs. they are so fond of each other.

14:02 - dan singing pizza when phil retrieves the pizza, which scares phil because phil wasn’t expecting dan to be there, dan continuing his pizza song, and phil joining in.

14:35 - phil singing the spiderman theme instrumental as he pulls the blinds tassel with a spiderman on it down, and giving dan the biggest smile ever.

14:47 - dan looking at phil as he retells the story of them having a little argument over disagreeing on wrapping paper etiquette.

15:18 - phil showing that he got his mother a cookbook and dan whining because ‘i thought that was for us’.

15:37 - dan filming phil’s ass as phil’s bent over and saying ‘butt’, then continuing on in conversation like that was a totally normal thing to do.

16:11 - dan raising his eyebrows as phil starts explaining how to wrap presents, and as we know, he does not like how phil wraps presents.

16:14 - phil biting the tape to rip it and then sticking it on his nose, and dan laughing loudly when the tape falls off.

16:35 - phil showing dan the present he wrapped, and dan’s exasperated ‘phil!’ when he sees the paper is folded in odd places and there are flaps hanging out.

17:06 - them randomly doing impressions of their favorite vines. just making each other laugh.

17:24 - dan singing ‘under the tree’ to the tune of under the sea, pointing to phil to finish the lyric, and phil doing little crab hands.

17:34 - dan explaining that they were going to work on something for the gaming channel and then showing phil sitting in bed reading a book.

18:50 - phil sharing that after gaming videos he gets stupidly hungry and looking around in the cupboards for food, when they had already looked for food before ordering dinner, knowing they have no food, which is what led them to order pizza.

this took four hours lol

[daisybell17]

New Years with Loki hc’s:

He would be so confused on why this was such a big deal to many midgardians…its a new year…so what?

Besides his confusion, he loved new years eve parties, and with you it just makes it 100x better

His first new years eve party was hosted by Tony Stark so of course it did not disappoint

He wore a nice black suit with hints of green silks inside his coat jacket. You on the other hand wore a tight fitting dress, also having hints of green through glitter spread around the dress

Loki could not keep his eye off you

The night was filled with great conversation, food, drinks and celebration of the year that passed by and the year to come

Loki kept hearing about “resolutions” and of course when it came to Midgardian things he did not understand, he would ask you

“Why is everyone asking me my “resolutions”? From Stark to the spider boy to even the arrow guy…what is a resolution darling?”

“Well a new years resolution is something people make as a sort of change in their life, sometimes they’re big, sometimes small. It’s just something people make as the new year comes, since its like a restart of everything”

“That sounds…odd, why do people wait till new years to make a change, just do it now”

“I cant really answer that honey, everyone is different, plus I have my own resolution”

His eyebrows raised at your response “You do? Enlighten me my dear”

“Yea one of my new years resolution is to spend more time reading, hopefully finishing books i have been putting of. I guess mine is small but it is some improvement…you should make something!” You encouraged him as to bring in the new years spirit

“Me? Improvement? Make a resolution? Darling I don’t need one. I’m perfect. duh” He snickered

You laughed at his response “You know there isn’t such thing as perfection, thats what makes life beautiful, its always changing and you find the beauty in it…plus, even perfection such as yourself can always self improve somewhere”

“That defeat the whole purpose of perfect, I don’t need some resolution…i am PERFECT darling!” He kisses your cheek as he finished his stance

“Okay! Whatever you say honey”

The night goes on as normal but of course your words linger Loki’s mind…and he took a minute to do some reflection…i mean he knew he was perfect, but even perfection has room for self-improvement…hmmm..

As the final 10 minutes of the year approached, your tipsy self found Loki and fell onto him

“Woah! Darling you ok?” He says as he holds you up

“YUP JUST TIPSY! …its a-almost n-new years…i need to be sober for our kisssssss”

“Kiss? I can kiss you right now you know”

“nOOOO new years eve kiss! I need water…NOW”

Loki rushes to get you water to get you back to being sober and by the time you gathered yourself and your thoughts, there was about 3 minutes to go

“OKAY IM GOOD! so basically a new years kiss is when we kiss once the clock hits 0! so basically…an i love you kiss, happy new year! Ya get it?”

Loki nods…he would kiss you any day at any time but he knew to wait, this was special to you as he could tell

As everyone gathered and the clock counted down, you and Loki stood together side by side

“10….9…8…7!”

Loki watches as everyone was here, celebrating the past and the future, all in the present moment…

“6…5…4...3!”

As the last 3 seconds ticked by, he took one good look at you. He knew how the past year had been for you…filled with so much good, too much bad in his opinion but amazing moment you both shared…and he couldn’t wait to see what the future brought for you in your own right, but for where you both will be and the memories to be created…he couldn’t wait

“2…1! Happy New Year!” Everyone cheered, screams of happiness filled the room and hugs and love was spread all around

You looked up at Loki and awaited for him to kiss you, which he did once you gave that glance that drove him insane

As the kiss went on, Loki felt nothing but happiness…how lucky is he to be with someone like you? What a lucky god he is….

Pulling away, you hugged Loki and watched as the fireworks went of and your friends greeting one another, you and Loki also greeting back

The excitement slowly died down and many went back to partying and drinking…Loki looked at you “Darling…I have a resolution”

You looked at him happily “You do?! You wanna share or keep it to yourself?”

“No no…you should know…My new years resolution is to make us happier…build us closer to our future…and of course…love you more and more each day…”

Looking at Loki, your eyes welled up in happy tears and you kissed him once more “Oh i’m so lucky to be with you…my love, I love you so much”

“I am just as lucky as you…I love you too…happy new year” He says with a smile as he held you close

[ryuichirou]

who do you think out of the twst boy tops is the meanest to their bottoms? (ok it’s probably the leech twins combined but i’d love to know how you think the tops would bully their bottoms for pleasure of course)

Sorry for the late reply, Anon!

First and foremost, I think you’re right, the Leech twins are the meanest, but that would be quite an easy and short answer. And now that I think about it… a lot of these boys are pretty mean lol but I guess they are villains so it’s natural for them to be not-so-wholesome, especially considering my own bias towards this kind of dynamic. So uuhh, let’s examine all of them! And rate their level of meanness from 0 to 10 while we’re at it, we love scaling stuff in this household…

Ace – around 6-7, he is pretty mean. His default option is to tease his Deuce (or Riddle, if this is a AceRid situation) and to bully him a little bit, mostly by touching him in a way he doesn’t expect and commenting about just how much he likes it. It’s always a game of never-ending bickering with him and Deuce, and Ace always wants to get the last laugh… He also loves to tease Deuce for being loud and talk about how they’re going to get noticed.

Trey – if he was true to himself, up to 8. But he has to be in a very comfortable place in his relationship to actually stop holding back lol He knows that his desires are unhinged and is very afraid of scaring Riddle away. He is not mean at all when he is with him, as if he’s going to break him if he does anything remotely uncomfortable. With other potential bottoms (Idia? Vil?) he allows himself to be a liiiitle meaner, mainly because they are more aware of his “true colours” and wouldn’t be as shocked by the contrast. If he didn’t hold back at all though, I feel like he could be pretty intense: verbal degradation, spanking, forcing his bottom to eat or drink semen…

Cater – normally around 3, but could go up to 6; it depends on a situation, but I can picture him getting meaner than one would expect him to be because the arousal partially shuts off the part of his brain that forces him to be friendly and cute all the time. Especially if both of them are into it to some degree, Cater could get carried away sometimes. I guess taking pictures/videos and forcing his bottom to act for them and then look at them later or asking if he should post it would be on brand for him lol

Ruggie – he usually minds his own business and doesn’t do any of the mean stuff, but honestly around 4?? There are moments when Leona gets on his nerves, so if he has an opportunity to be a bit more mean, he always uses it lol Mostly in a physical way though, like tugging on Leona’s hair and tail, biting his ears, even smacking his butt if Ruggie is lucky. And Ruggie enjoys these moments tremendously… but it’s not like he is naturally inclined to be mean by default.

Jack – good boy, not a meanie :( But he is also a tsundere who could say mean stuff every now and then, so I guess that’s a 1. It’s not like he doesn’t have potential to be a bully, it’s just way too embarrassing and feels weird and unnecessary for him. That being said, despite being such a gentle giant, he loves being physically rough and can’t control his own strength well, so if we’re judging by the level of “damage”, he is higher than a 1 lol

Azul – horrible. Definitely around 7-8, and on a good day could even jump up to 9.5. Azul thrives on dominating his partner, this is one thing he loves the most about having sex. Being better that everybody around you academically and a successful young entrepreneur is one thing, but overstimulating your partner to the point when you can see his body aching for your attention and his brains get all foggy? This is priceless, Azul’s ego is orgasming. So yeah, be it Idia or Jamil, Azul loves overstimulating them and then preventing them from reaching an orgasm, and he ALWAYS accompanies it with verbal bullying. Because he knows that Idia is going to grind his teeth and sigh in arousal and annoyance unable to talk back (finally!). And he knows that Jamil is going to get snappy at him because he doesn’t have all the time in the world to play Azul’s stupid games (how impatient~).

Jade – like we already agreed, the tweels are the meanest, so 10. And in some sense Jade is the worst out of all of them? There is no point in having sex to him if there isn’t any bullying involved; I think to Jade sex is just a pretext lol Otherwise he isn’t all that into it. And to him the bullying part starts before sex and continues after sex… so a lot of mental mind games, confusing his bottom about whether he wants to have sex with him or not, gaslighting him before AND after about what actually happened between the two. But other than that, he also teases a lot, degrades verbally a lot, and threatens a lot, but always in such a sleazy way as if he is slowly putting himself under his bottom’s skin. He also does a bunch of physical stuff too, like feeding funny mushrooms, playing with needles and choking. He also made Idia feel like he is going to kill him during sex once, and Idia genuinely believed him and almost died due to being scared. Of course, that made the orgasm stronger for both of them.

Floyd – also a 10, obviously. In a way, he is better than Jade because he actually does enjoy having sex, and sometimes he just wants to have a good banging session, and he might even be somewhat passionate and sensual (not gentle though lol). But when he wants to bully, he is much less premeditated than Jade?? He just does the first thing that comes to mind. So sometimes he just tugs on Riddle’s underwear and playfully blows on his sensitive ear in public, making him moan in surprise… but sometimes he threatens to do horrible irreversible things to him while he fucks him, licks his tears off and steals his phone to make it seem like he’s calling his mom. And then throws away his clothes so he has to come back to his dorm naked.

Kalim – barely a 1, he isn’t mean at all. Even when he gets playful or capricious, it’s never really a desire to bully or be even mildly sadistic. All the mean stuff that he does is kind of unintentional?? I think to some degree Jamil would prefer him to actually be mean and degrading than to do whatever the fuck he does when he suddenly decided that they need to change the position once every minute or so.

Rook – another weird one. He isn’t malicious and wouldn’t consider himself a bully, so it feels like he would have a very low number… but similarly to Kalim, he does stuff unintentionally, and he is kind of much worse than Kalim. The thing with Rook is that he enjoys the thrill and enjoys his partner feeling all kinds of complex emotions while having sex with him, it’s like seasoning a good meal to make it into a great meal. So while he wouldn’t call Vil (or any other of his partners) a pathetic slut, he would ask weird and invasive questions, hint at things, make his lover’s mind go straight to conclusions about Rook being unfair and cruel. If Rook can make his partner hate him with passion while also fiercely, actively and desperately enjoying his dick even for a minute or two of confusion, Rook is happy~ Also, does chasing someone in a forest count as bullying?

Ortho – in general he is around 4-6, you know, more playful and mischievous than mean, but he has the potential to be a lot meaner. Especially when he gets carried away… He gets a lot of ideas from the internet and gets experimental, especially with Idia. The more sex they have, the meaner Ortho gets because bullying provides new reactions, new sensations and new data. And it could be both verbal and physical… well, we have an entire post about just how mean Ortho could potentially get lol

Lilia – 8-10, he is one of the meanest ones for sure. And if he was his younger self, he would definitely be the meanest. We talked about him being sadistic a lot of times, in this reply for example, but these days he mostly teases his bottoms verbally, pranks them, makes them do embarrassing kinky stuff that could easily get them caught and overstimulates them. You know, like asking Silver not to wear underwear, forcing Idia to meow while he is being fucked or even saying that Malleus seemed way too happy about getting attention and therefore should show how much he wants him to continue fucking him (although the last one is very dangerous; Lilia is very careful with Malleus lol). Similarly to Rook, he thinks it’s just him being playful~

Sebek – as things always are with Sebek, it depends on who he is with. Because if it’s Malleus, he wouldn’t dare to be mean to him, at least intentionally, so that would make him a 0… but with Silver or Idia or anyone else I can see him getting very cocky. Despite how physical Sebek always is, he is surprisingly into verbal degradation, so Silver is going to hear a lot of comments about him not being able to handle Sebek and his legs being shaky because of them having sex, and Idia is going to hear a lot of... all kinds of mean stuff about how pathetic he is to be honest lol But Sebek also gets overstimulated easily, so he’ll either start spouting nonsense or will proceed with physical bullying – hair pulling, smacking and stuff. So either 0 or 8 for him lol

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Ranking DC Pride 2023

9. Love’s Lightning Heart (???, ???)

Starring The Flashlight and The Flash, I think? When he called the dude “Ray” in the beginning I thought it was gonna be The Ray, you know? This only scores so low because I’m not at ALL familiar with anything Multiversity and this story especially seemed to be absolutely thick with that corner of DC lore. I get there’s a Parallax type of thing happening but... this was kind of hard to follow for a payoff that’s pretty lukewarm if you’re not well-versed in who this story’s about.

8. My Best Bet (Jon Kent/Superman, John Constantine

This is hit especially hard in my ranking because it’s the last story in the book and the only thing DC Pride about it is that it stars two Bs. They’re popular queer characters but I’m here for stories that are specifically ABOUT LGBT stuff, not about LGBT people doing stuff. There’s nothing to really talk about here.

7. Found (Xanthe Zhou, Batwoman/Kate Kane)

I’ve been meaning to read Spirit World, and since I hadn’t gotten around to it Xanthe being LGBT was a surprise to me, but not as much as Kate Kane showing up was. It feels like someone threw a dartboard at WLW women and plopped in whoever came up, cuz I guarantee if I flip the newest Batwoman issue open to a random page she’ll have a girlfriend-slash-situationship that won’t be too happy about her seeming receptive to some flirting. But hey, I like Xanthe more now so there’s give-and-take.

6. And Baby Makes Three (Xiomara Rojas/Crush, Harleen Quinzel/Harley Quinn, Pamela Isley/Poison Ivy)

I like Crush. I can’t claim to have read much of her, because for now that means enduring way too much Damian Wayne, but she seems like an incredibly interesting character. But I could not tell you why she’s here with Harley and Ivy. This, moreso than anything else, has a less than negative chance of being referenced again and it’s giving me even more of that dartboard feeling the last story did. Plus if there’s one thing Harlivy can do, it’s carry a story by themselves. I wish we’d gotten something about JUST Crush, is what I’m saying. I feel like this was a status update for Crush, like her washing ashore was meant to bridge the gap between this story and whatever she was doing the last time she showed up.

5. Teamwork Makes the Dream Work (Natasha Irons/Steel, Nubia)

Listen, I will always have space in my heart for the Irons family. I love Natasha, and I love John Henry, and when DC lets either out of the ether every other year I’m front and center. That, and the recent super-push Nubia has been enjoying made this story one I was pretty excited to read when I realized who it was about. But THIS ART. These faces are TRASH. Even without looking it up I feel like there’s a 0% chance DC would give a nonblack artist this story, so it makes it especially confusing as to why the characters look like THAT. The actual content was fun and even though Io needs to come up off our queen posthaste, I didn’t have any (other) complaints. But it’s SOOOOO UGLYYYYY.

4. The Dance ( Minhkhoa Khan/Ghost-Makes, Thomas Blake/Catman)

I knew Ghost-Maker was bi prior to reading this, somehow. I’ve been meaning to read anything about him because his design is so awesome but I was only really guessing this was Catman alongside him. I really don’t know anything about him, so this ranks so highly just because of Ghost-Maker. I don’t really have anything else to add here since this story’s ultimate purpose seems to just show off muscley dudes post-sex.

3. Anniversary (Lucas Trent/Midnighter, Andrew Pulaski/Apollo, Alan Scott/Green Lantern)

These showcases tend to have like, one story that directly addresses inequality if you’re lucky. This is that story, and it’s such a good one. Midnighter and Apollo’s fame as the canon gay Superbat sort of eclipses anything else about them, but that reputation is put to excellent effect here. Plus, Alan Scott, one of my favorite Green Lanterns, finally shows up. Revitalizing that old slogan to make it clear the LGBT isn’t going anywhere was fun, too.

2. Subspace Transmission (Jules Jourdain/Circuit Breaker, Jess Chambers/The Flash, Andy Curry/Aquawoman)

Jess was an extremely fun and memorable character from the start like, half a decade ago and that holds true here. I was super uninvested in the Circuit Breaker part of this story. I don’t know who that is, and even after reading this I genuinely don’t care. This made my heart hurt for more Teen Justice and Future State stuff in general. That Jackson Hyde cameo at the end was also perfect.

1. Hey, Stranger (Connor Hawke/Hawke, Tim Drake/Robin)

I was definitely in diapers the last time these two characters spoke to each other. When there’s been THAT big a gap in timeframe I can’t be sure how emotional a reunion can be to a modern readership. None of that matters to my enjoyment, because Connor Hawke is far and away my favorite Arrowfam member and his recent resurgence (even if too much of it is attached to Damian Wayne for my taste) has been such a blessing. DC only trots this guy out three times a year but god do we eat good each time. They just need to do a LITTLE more with him.

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Rachel Paula Abrahamson at NBC News:

Openly gay actor Maulik Pancholy was disinvited from speaking at a middle school anti-bullying assembly after concerns were raised about his political activism and what two school board members called his “lifestyle.” Pancholy’s scheduled appearance at Mountain View Middle School in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, was unanimously overturned by the district’s school board in a public meeting on April 15.  “If you research this individual, he labels himself as an activist, he is proud of his lifestyle and I don’t think that should be imposed upon our students at any age,” board member Bud Shaffner said at the meeting.  Trisha Comstock, a former parent at the school, started a Change.org petition to reinstate the empathy and anti-bullying assembly. “What happened is homophobic. Anyone can go and watch the meeting,” Comstack tells TODAY.com. “This board is close to causing some real harm.”

Why was Maulik Pancholy disinvited?

Board member Kelly Potteiger raised concerns that Pancholy, 50, would discuss his children’s book “The Best at It,” which is about a gay Indian American boy. “It’s not discriminating against his lifestyle — that’s his choice,” Potteiger said in the meeting. “But it’s him speaking about it.” Pancholy played the character Jonathan, Alex Baldwin’s devoted assistant, in the sitcom “30 Rock,” and also voiced the character Baljeet in “Phineas and Ferb.” Pancholy’s presentation on anti-bullying at Mountain View Middle School was canceled by an 8-0 vote. TODAY.com has reached out to Pancholy for comment. Brooke Ryerson, an LGBTQ high school sophomore, attended Mountain View Middle School. Ryerson and her mom plan to express their disappointment at the next board meeting on May 6. 

“It was going to be an assembly about empathy and anti-bullying,” Ryerson, 16, tells TODAY.com. “But that doesn’t matter to the board. They want to silence us in any way they can.” The “us” that Ryerson is referring to is the gay community.  “They’re sending that message that they don’t want our identities in the school,” Ryerson says. “I’m lucky that I have such accepting friends and family, but it’s gotta be devastating for the kids who don’t and now feel even more like they’re not wanted somewhere.”

The cowardly Cumberland Valley School District school board in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania voted to cancel gay 30 Rock actor Maulik Pancholy's appearance at a middle school anti-bullying assembly, with 2 of its board members using the homophobic "lifestyle" canard to justify canceling Pancholy's address to middle schoolers.

See Also:

LGBTQ Nation: School board cancels anti-bullying talk by gay actor because of his “lifestyle”

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★ 2008 LAcon Gold/Breakfast

Official name: Creation Entertainment's SALUTE TO SUPERNATURAL (Sunday Breakfast & Charity Silent Auction) Location: Marriott Los Angeles Airport, Los Angeles, Cal Time: Sunday March 30, 2008, 8:00-9:45 AM (GMT-7) Panelists: Jensen Ackles, Jared Padalecki Last episode: 3x12 "Jus in Bello"- 2/21/2008 Next episode: 3x13 "Ghostfacers"- 4/24/2008

Question Index: 1+ Jared’s engagement 2+ Goodies from Set; Sam’s clothes 3+ YouTube Farting Pandas story 4+ Jared’s family visit 5+ Finger surgery story 6+ miniature Impala 7+ Writer strike end; 4th season renewal 8+ Kripke at LAcon 9+ Five season limit 10+ SPN hiatus; Reaper 11+ 3x13 12+ Cinematography; height differences (3x13) 1- Stunts; Fight scenes; Women vs Men 13+ bts story; stunt people; 3x02, 2x19, 1x06 2- 3x11; Int. Diner -Day; sync scene 14+ Dialogue and Audio challenges 15+ Fan encounter; UBC campus 3- Con experience 4- Most fun episode to shoot in s3* 5- Fan appreciation

(video playlist/links and transcript below the cut)

(*if you notice any mistakes in the video transcripts or found more video coverage of the con please point them out thanks*👍)

◘Supernatural La Convention-2008[breakfast] by omzzzzz◘

•(0:00) – Introduction

Adam Malin is standing near the mic on stage, introducing the boys.

Malin: -Jarrrreeeed! (audience claps and cheers)

A door on the back wall from the right of stage opens up. Jensen with Jared following walk into the room followed by a team of bodyguards. J2 wave at the gold audience and then step on stage with one mic stand. Camera’s from the audience are constantly flashing.

Jensen: Hi. (audience giggles)

Jared: Hello guys. (leans over to the singular mic) They’re make us, like, accidentally touch faces and what. (audience laughs) Good morning. (to Jensen) I don’t think it’s early as probably last time.

Jensen: (reaches to the mic stand’s ) (to Jared) I think I’m gonna raise this up (Jared: Yeah!) for big guy here. (audience laughs)

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Jared: I decided to pick (points to the end of the stage) the short cut on this side of the stage instead of going on the way in. (audience giggles) Well, welcome to, uh, LA-

Jensen: Who’s- Who’s not awake? (raises hand up high) (audience giggles and raises their hands) (flings arm to his right) Good to know. Good to know.

Jared: (reaches for the mic) I’ll take over then. (to the audience) Where y’all come from? Anybody, uh, far away or anybody here local?

The audience starts yelling out answers. Jensen walks behind to the other side of Jared and takes off his jacket and tosses it to the end of the stage.

•(0:54 O, 0:23 DW)- LA08Gold;T1- Jared’s engagement

Jared: (looks back and forth) Where are y’all from? (audience member: France!) France! I was just in France. I got engaged in France. (Jensen starts clapping. Then audience claps and cheers) I wish she was here now because, um, (?she could?), um, (?she could tell?), but I was, uh- January 28th. It was our four-year anniversary at (?). (audience aws) (adjusts the mic stand) And so, I’m a very lucky man. But that was in, uh, in Paris. (?Had to do the-?) (swipes hands out)

Audience member: Eiffel Tower?

Jared: I- it wasn’t at the Eiffel Tower. I heard that Tom Cruise done that. And I was like, (shakes head) “I don’t know if I wanna-” (audience laughs) So, um- And actually a credit to.. the show and the word that y’all helped spread, I was getting recognized a lot in France. And I was just- Strangely, I was like- We were in the Louvre and, um, you know, where these priceless paintings and these sculptures and everything. (audience laughs) And people are walking past, like, holding their pictures up and I’m like, “That’s (?Menoi?)! Why are you all like-” (audience laughs, Jensen smiles)

Um, but I just- I- We- I ended up doing it in the hotel room. Uh, because I- I didn’t want.. the moment to be like.. (mimics kneeling looking up) “Will you-“ “Take a picture of?” (mimics getting up and posing with fans) (audience laughs) I went back. And so, uh, we had a nice private day and had massages and everything. (audience giggles) But I did great. So- So, thank you I guess. (laughs then looks at Jensen)

◘Jared and Jensen in LA: Breakfast clip 1 by BabyBlueSteel◘

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Oh, yeah. Good idea. (takes off his coat) (audience catcall)

Jensen: Heh, yeah. (?You startin’ to?) sweat now?

•(2:11 O, 0:08 BBS, 0:05 DW)- LA08Gold;T2- Goodies from set; Sam’s clothes

Jared: Heey. I borrowed this set- this shirt from set, so. (audience giggles) I’m Sam today. (hands coat to someone off stage) Thank you, sir. Yeah.

Jensen: The whole outfit to. (audience chuckles)

Jared: I know, yeah. But I didn’t borrow (pats pants) this. This I stole after season one. (lifts left leg and pats shoe) This I stole after season two. (audience laughs) (to Jensen) The belt, I think, is also season two.

Jensen: Well, you know, all the time we have to actually shop (?at the end of the day?).

Jared: Right. Right. Right. And, they- And they’re much better than I am at shopping for clothes. (Jensen: Yeah.) So, I just sort of run into the wardrobe trailer for something (?wear?) around the knees?

Jensen: Oh, the whole thing.

Jared: Yeah. (audience laughs) Yeah. That’s one person’s job.

(to the audience) Anything else? Y’all have questions? Y’all are excited to be here or? (audience affirms and cheers) Thanks again for (throws hands up) one of the-

Jensen: (scoots closer to Jared) It- it used to be like a-like a camera phone (?).

Jared: Yeah. Yeah, right.

◘Jared and Jensen at Breakfast in LA - March 08 by runedgirl◘

Jensen: (gestures to the crowd) Now we have actual video cameras on you (?). (audience laughs) (looks at a watch) Which does mean this will be on YouTube in about three minutes. So watch what you say.

Jared: So, I can watch it and see how.. dorky I.. (audience laughs) will be.

Jensen: Ah, yeah. Absolutely.

Jared: That is fun actually. I- you know I- I don’t know. Jensen makes fun of me.

•(3:16 O, 1:13 BBS, 1:11 DW, 0:19 R)- LA08Gold;T3- YouTube Farting Panda story

Jensen: I saw- (facepalms) I saw the thing on TV last night. I don’t know the guy’s name, but, uh, it-it was just a clip of a commercial for a show. And it was just talking about the accessibility of YouTube. (audience chuckle) (laughs) And the guy says- the guy says, “YouTube!” (raises hands) “Bring me a farting Panda” (claps) (audience and Jared laughs)

(to Jared) I had to pause the television because I was laughing. (audience laughs) (shakes head) I love it. (wipes his face)

Jared: (thumbs to Jensen) Now you know that Jensen is looking up farting pandas. (Audience laughs. Jensen shrugs) I never found that. Uh-

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Jensen: It’s what I do. (Jared: Yeah.) Yeah.

Jared: Uh… I remember last summer-

Jensen: This is what I do with my Saturday night. Yeah. (shrugs) (audience laughs)

•(3:53 O, 1:51 BBS, 0:09 DW)- LA08Gold;T4- Jared’s family visit

Jared: I got to spend time with my family yesterday. My brother was in town. (swipes hand) My sister was in town. So, I’m really excited.

And I probably smell, because we stayed up late, so. (audience laughs) I apologize to anybody who I will be (Jensen mouths “He does” to the audience) close proximity to (audience laughs) later. I still smell a little bit. But I don’t get a chance to see them too often. So, he’s joining a convention of some sort for the doctor study- whatever they do. (swipes hand) It’s not important. (audience laugh) Just-

Jensen: Just saving the world.

Jared: Just saving the world. (shakes head and waves his hand) Nothing important.

Jensen: Nothing to see here.

Jared: Yeah. I always-  I always find it funny, because I always call my brother (takes off beanie) and griping about something. I’m saying, “Ohh, I work 16 hours.” He’s like, “I’m an hour 48 at the hospital. I’ve had 93 minutes of sleep.” (laughs) I’m going, “Yeah. Yeah. I wasn’t griping or anything.” (shrugs) I was just like, (shrugs)” (audience laughs) “(?I wouldn’t want be?) my brother. I don’t wannna.. make it sound like, uh, bitching and moaning.”

Jensen: Going into surgery after an hour forty-eight?

Jared: Yeah. (Jensen: ?Wow?) (?It’s frightening to do that?) (audience laughs)

•(2:41 BBS, 1:00 DW)- LA08Gold;T5- Finger surgery story

Jared: It’s always been, um- When I broke my hand and I had the cast on the show, I remember I was talking with the doctor who had done my hand- who had fix my wrist. And he was saying he and his partner one time with a 20 hour surgery- uh, this is kind of.. disgusting but, um- (audience laugh) A guy had cut his fingers off on a saw. So they had to go in and label all the little.. (jiggles head) like veins to the right veins with those little tags and sit there for twenty-eight hours. Neither of them slept. (nods) Yeah. So-

Jensen: So, good morning everybody! (claps) (audience laughs)

Jared: If y’all are tired then.. (swipe points) don’t gripe. Let me do it. (audience laughs)

◘Jared and Jensen in LA: Breakfast clip 2 by BabyBlueSteel◘

I’ll just pass the mic to Jensen (Jensen: I don’t want it) because I’ll- I’ll sit here- (audience laughs)

Jensen steps away from the mic, but Jared leans it towards him.

Jensen: Thank you. Thank you. (steps back to the mic and says to the audience) Hi. (audience greets back) I have no stories to tell right now. (audience chuckles) Um-

A loud heavy thud interrupts Jensen and J2 look to their right. The audience make startled giggles in response. Jared points at the noises origin and then grabs the mic.

Jared: What’s in that glass? Can we get a smell check on.. (puts back the mic back)

•(2:00 DW, 0:23 BBS)- LA08Gold;T6- miniature impala

Audience member: We’ve got the prettiest girl in the room right here, the impala.

Jared: (holds hands out to audience member) That is- (claps and nods) That’s right.

Jensen: There’s my baby.

Jared: It was good to see that car again, for sure. (throws up hand) Yeah-

Jensen: Might have a little trouble fittin’ into that one. (audience laughs) But, yeah.

•(2:12 DW, 0:35 BBS)- LA08Gold;T7- Writer strike end; 4th season renewal

Jared: First off (claps) also (pats Jensen’s shoulder) I-I know I said I’d passed the mic to Jensen but I’m gonna (Jensen waves Jared on) (audience laughs) Let’s be happy that the writer’s strike finally ended. (clap) (Jensen: Ah [claps]) (audience cheers and claps)

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(?Tomorrow, I’ll answer this?) you will find records or YouTubes of this. So let’s say, you know, thank you again to them. And getting us picked up for a fourth season. That was real (?nice of you?). (audience claps and cheers) (J2 talk off mic)

•(1:01 BBS, 0:18 DW)- LA08Gold;T8- Kripke at LAcon

Jared: (to the audience) Kripke was here yesterday? (audience affirms)

Jensen: That’s wh- That’s- (grabs mic) That’s really what I wanted to talk to you guys about, is I wanna start asking you questions. (audience laughs) ‘Cause he doesn’t tell us anything. (slice hand motion) (audience laughs) It’s- Yeah, no, seriously people will ask-

Audience member: What do you want to know?

Audience member: What do you wanna know?

Audience member: We know everything!

Jensen: Uh, (gestures to himself) what happens with me? (audience laughs) Do I die? Do I die?

Jared: (grabs the mic and points to himself) What happens with me? Do I-

Jensen: (grabs the mic back) More importantly, what happens with me? (Jared laughs) No, really. Do you guys- Did he give you any, uh- uh-

•(1:25 BBS, 0:42 DW)- LA08Gold;T9- Five season limit

Audience member: For five seasons!

Jensen: What?

Audience: Five seasons!

Jared: He said five seasons?

Audience member: Big cliffhanger! Big cliffhanger.

Audience member: They gonna leave!

Audience member: He said that y’all had called too!

Audience member: Yeah, dude you’re dead!

Jared places a hand on his chest and grimaces to Jensen.

Audience member: You died!

Jensen looks confused at the audience. The audience laughs.

Jared: (grabs mic) I put in a request for that, so. (swipes hand)

Jensen: (to Jared) Uh, there is the Supernatural comment box. (Jared and audience laugh)

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Audience member: You’re not coming back, Jensen.

Jensen: I’m not coming back? (Audience member: No.) (looks to Jared) Have fun. (audience laughs) (Jared: Great!) Have fun.

Jared: Maybe my hours will (audience chuckles) (to audience member) So, he said five seasons, huh? (audience affirms)

Audience member: He said- he said that y’all just don’t want to do more than that.

Jared: Oh, he did?!

Jensen: Oh, he blamed us! (audience giggles) (audience keeps yelling out things) (to Jared) I seem to recall having a very, very intimate conversation with the guy saying, (arm slice motion) “I don’t want to write past five.” (nods) “Okay, Eric.” (audience laughs) (thumbs up) “Sounds good, buddy.”

Jared: I- I think, uh, yeah. I think we have had.. a discussion with him before where he talks about.. He’s afraid if we go into.. season 20 like Bonanza, it’ll be Sam and Dean (audience laugh) like, (leans against the wall) sitting down on couches going, “(?There’s a handgun?)” (finger guns)-

Jensen: (mimics old!Dean using a walker with shaky hips) “Sam!” (audience and Jared laughs)

Jared: (mimics Jensen) You really need to do that butt shaking thing.

Jensen: (nods) I will. (audience laughs) I will. Absouletly.

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Jared: I think that, uh-

Jensen: (to Jared) She got a kick out of that one.

Jared: I really want to see it again. (Jensen: No.) I wanted to see it. (shakes his head) I’m just kidding.

Jensen: I know you do.

Jared: I’d rather- I’d rather not see it ever.

Jared reaches for the mic stand, but the mic falls off. Jensen shakes his head. The audience laughs and Jared looks dejectedly at the empty mic stand. Jared then bends down and picks up the mic.

Jared: (to the audience) I’m certain that he did that. (audience laughs) (untangles the mic cord) I guess I’ve been drinking whatever she’s (points into the audience) drinking.

Jensen: Oh, sorry I dropped the microphone (mimics bending to pic up the mic), excuse me.

Jared: Now, let me turn around and-

Jared bends over to the side and shows the audience his butt. The audience catcalls, while Jared continues to untangle the mic cord from around the stand. Jared laughs at the reaction.

Jared: It’s not- It’s not a great site (?) (audience laughs) I wish it were something worth screaming for. (finishes untangling the cord) I don’t know how I got Sandy. (audience giggles)

•(3:11 BBS, 0:37 R)- LA08Gold;T10- SPN hiatus activities; Reaper

Jared: What have y’all guys been doing when Supernatural’s been off? What have y’all been watching? What’s going (?on?)? (audience yell out answers) (throws up hand) Really?

Jensen: (takes the mic stand) Well they’ve been watching Reaper cause they took our timeslot. (audience denies. Jared laughs and claps)

Jared: Good to know that y’all still prefer Sam of Supernatural to Sam of Reaper. Which (?confused me?). (audience squeals) I mean, I really enjoy the show, but when I was watching the first time I was going, “Why are they calling him Sam?” (audience laughs) “His name is Sam. Like, my name is Sam.” (audience giggles)

Jensen: (counts on his fingers) His name is Sam, the lead character. (Jared chuckles) Hunts demons and.. Okay. (wipes mouth) (audience laughs) (laughs) Okay.

•(3:51 BBS, 1:17 R)- LA08Gold;T11- 3x13

Jared: We just did an episode with the Hellhounds. The guys from, uh, season 1? The (audience cheers) I guess the episode called Hellhounds or Hell House? (audience affirms “Hell House”) So they’re back. A.J. and Travis are back with, um, this whole gang. People they call the Ghostfacers. And it’s a really neat episode. I don’t know if Kripke talked about it? (audience affirms) And it’s all shot on video cams.

And so it’s interesting to go and shot a take and, uh- We all go watch it and laugh and go, “Huh, this playback thing is kind of fancy.” (audience laugh) (?The difference between?) light it and shoot it, and go back and change, light it and shoot it and go back and change, work on our lot. It was kind of fun, to not have marks and not hit lights.

The experience with (?) was nice to actually just act and not just feel like.. (mini pose) minding my lights, posing for the camera (?).

Jensen: Because that’s all you do. (audience laughs)

Jared: (shrugs) (shrugs) I got nothing. (audience giggles)

Jensen: No, it was. It wa- it was like, uh, took us- took us out of our element because, you know, there’s a technical of- a technical side of acting was kind of forms in your brain once you do it for so long. And (shrugs) you know, to-to kind of strip that away all of a sudden you’re left with nothing but lines and- and reacting off of characters. So- (shrugs) So, it’s kind of cool (?episode, you know, like in theatre?). But, uh-

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And then, you know, these little tiny cameras. You know, (Jared: Yeah.) you’re- you’re- you’re used to having the camera. And if you’re in front of it, you gotta be bringing up the performance a little bit, because as soon as it goes off, you’re like, “Pbft” (mimics walking away) (Jared and the audience laugh)

Jared: (?of course?)

Jensen: Well, unbeknownst- So, unbeknownst to us in the beginning there’s camera’s like (points different angles) (?tight and wide?), (Jared: That’s right.) there’s a camera over here, and there’s a over there. So, we’re never off (Jared: Yeah) camera. So it’s a constant, uh- it’s-it’s a constant barrage of filming.

Jared: I think it’s nine or eleven, some.. strange odd number (Jensen: Ten) of- Ten. (audience giggles) (points to head) With cameras and little head cams and little, uh.. uh, little cams that are.. attached on a (?face thing?). It was really interesting to shoot. I really had a good time. So, I hope y’all guys liked it. Um-

Jensen: Yup. It’s a little different.

Jared: It is different. But I think- I think, uh, (?it reminds me of?) It’s kind of that handheld feel which we haven’t had a.. really a lot of chances to do on this show.

Jensen: Hey, what’s the movie that came out recently, uh-

Jared: Cloverfield (claps)

Jensen: (nods) Cloverfield.

Jared: So, I didn’t get the chance to see it, but I heard it was great. Uh, so I’d like to see it but- I think it’s- I think they said Cloverfield but not (?a shape?). I didn’t see it, so I don’t know.. what that means. But, I guess it was kind of Blair Witch Cloverfield style of TV show.

Jensen: (?) 50 incher and you’re like, (mimics throwing up) (audience laughs)

•(6:10 BBS, 1:27 DW)- LA08Gold;T12- Cinematography; height differences (3x13)

Jared: It was also much tougher for them to hide my height. It was.. watching random cameras that might look down at the ground. They’re like, “Can’t really squat.” (awkwardly squats) (audience laughs) “I can’t really like, (spreads his legs) go like this.” (audience laughs) (tosses up hands) “I guess I just gotta be tall.” (audience laughs)

We have a- we have a girl named Brittany, who’s one of the guest stars. And she’s, uh, she’s about yea high. So, she’s got a little camera. And every time she looks at me or Jensen, she’s like this. (mimics pointing the camera up) (Jensen mimics her too) And the ceiling is gone, because they’re all in these, uh, you know- (Jensen: Sets.) Yeah, it’s all sets. So, they’re like, “Uhhh, could you just hold (mimics holding the camera above his head) it above your (?)?” (audience laughs)

So, Phil was directing. And they ended up making her put the little screen down and sit there and (mimics holding the camera way above his head) hold on it’s (?strung out and running into things?). It was pretty fun to watch. (audience and Jensen laugh) Next time I want to be operator.

Jensen: The challenges. (Jared: Yeah.) (?It’s all challenges?)

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Jared: Yeah.. And now Jensen has a song prepared for you.

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Jensen: I do. (audience woos and claps) (grabs the mic) Hit it! (audience laughs.) I don’t know who I’m talking to. (audience laughs) (shrugs) Uhhh, (looks around the room) any questions, guys? Any, uh- (Jared: Yeah! Yeah.) Give us something to talk about, for crying out loud. (audience giggles) Sitting up here like puppets. (raises head at fan) Yes. Yes.

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• (0:30 JL, 0:18 DW, 0:07 BBS)- LA08Gold;Q1- Stunts; Fight scenes; Women vs Men (2x15)

Fan: I-I guess, general question. So, um, in terms of the- the combat or the fighting scenes and stuff that you do, do you find- are they choreographed enough that it doesn’t make a difference, or when your actually fighting women or they’re, ehm, you know, the fembots in the Trickster episode or things like that. D- Is- is there a difference, um, when you’re- when you’re interacting in a fight scene like that with a woman vs a male, er, man or actor or actress?

Jensen: Uhhh, well yeah. Absolutely. Th- You know, (shrugs) you want to be.. You know, g-guys, uh- We- we get physical with the- with the fights and, uh- You know, I’m- I’m gonna.. actually steal a-a quote that, uh, Harrison Ford said it recently. He said, uh, when they asked him, they were like, “So, about the new Indiana Jones movie, so you’ll be doing all your- all your stunts?” And he goes, “Oh, I don’t do stunts. Uh, I run, jump, and fall down.” (audience laughs. Jared smiles)

And, (shrugs) which is basically what we do. The stunt guys are the ones that do the- the really, you know.. t-the dangerous things. But, uh, the hand to hand combat stuff we do- It’s, uh- It’s choreographed out to an extent, but once- once you get the, you know, sound roll and the camera’s start rolling and stuff, it intensifies.

So, we always try to rehearse at half speed because you know as soon the, uh- as soon as the camera starts rolling that- that adrenaline, uhh, kicks in and you start going really fast. And then that’s when- Well, I mean (thumbs at Jared) you know he- he broke his wrist last season.

Uhm, so, uh, but, yeah. I-I- I’d say when, you know, when dealing- We normally deal with stunt guys. So, when we’re- when we’re fighting someone it’s usually a stunt person. So, you know, they can take a- a crack open head. Or they’re very, uh, (snaps fingers) you know, they have- they have spatial awareness about them that- that is great for fighting with us.

Um, and, uh- and usually the women that we fight are stunt women as well. So, I mean-

Jared: Tougher than the stunt men. (audience laughs)

Jensen: And- Good, because I mean, (thumbs to Jared) to kick his ass. (Jared and the audience laugh) Uh,

Jared: (rotates his fingers) So, in turn..

Jensen: (points to himself) Not me.

Jared: (points at Jensen) Really. Really. (audience laughs)

Jensen: No. So, it’s, y-you know, it just depends on, eh, sometimes if w- were doing it with an actor or an actress or if we’re doing it with a stunt person, kind of how (flings hand), you know, how full tilt we get.

Jared: (nods) Yeah, that’s, from (thumbs at Jensen) my part, I would say it’s- it’s.. not so much man or woman but more-

Jensen: (holds up mic stand and shakes it) Do we even need this? Do you guys hear us? (audience affirms)

Jared: (grabs mic stand from Jensen) I want the mic. I like it. (laughs)

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Jensen: (gestures to go ahead) Get the spotlight (?coming for you?). (thumbs to Jared) (audience laughs)

Jared: Yeah, I thought I had the spotlight on me. No, it’s not- For-For my money, it’s not so much man or woman, but actor or stunt actor, you know? Because, like (thumbs to Jensen) he was saying, like, with.. uh, kind of hinted at this- the stunt women are.. tough as nails also. And a lot of them are like ex-fighters and, you know, trained in kick boxing and (throws up hand) could kick my ass. (throws up hand) And so could kick his ass. But, um, so-

•(2:46 BBS, 0:29 DW)- LA08Gold;T13- bts story; stunt people; 3x02, 2x19, 1x06

Jensen: What is the, uh- Where was the- In the- the changelings’ episode, uh, (Jared: We were in, uh, “Nightshifter.”) at the very end, uh, the mother changeling, uh- (audience answers “The Kids Are Alright”) (Jared: Yeah.) Yeah. Uh, I-I fling her into like some, you know, (?big?) barrels and then I stand her up and I do a (mimics kick) front kick right into her chest. And, it was- it was not the actress. It was just the-the- the stunt woman and she kept going, (“come on” gesture) “Kick me.” (audience laughs) And so, I, you know-

And I’ve been known to knock the breath outta of, uh, (gestures to Jared) like Lou’s, uh, son Nick. (Jared: Oh, yeah.) Yeah. Like, our stunt coordinator Lou Bollo.. he has a son named Nick. Uh, he’s very into, uh,-

Jared: He’s been- he’s been in several stunts.

Jensen: He’s been in a lot of stuff and, uh-

Jared: In the prison episode he was (mimics lifting and tossing) picked up and launched on to the- the (Jensen nods), uh, table.

Jensen: And this is in theee, what would have been, uh, “Skin.” Uh, first season. He comes- And he comes into the door ‘cause one of the, uh- uh, SWAT guys. And just give him (mimics kick) a soccer kick right to his- right in his chest and he just goes flying out the door. (audience laughs) Because Lou, his father, was like (leans in and whispers), “Kick him hard.” (audience laughs) (holds out hands) “Alright.”

Jared: (leans into the mic) That’s when he needed the microphone. (holds the mic to Jensen)

Jensen: “Kick it- Kick him- Kick him hard.” (audience laughs)

Jared: (takes the mic back) Now, back to me.

Jensen: But- But I really- I d- the-the lady from the from changelings, I mean, I- I punted her so hard that after- after every take I’m like, (bends down) “I’m so sorry. (?)” (audience laughs) And she popped right up. She’s like, (shakes head) “I’m good.” (audience laughs)

Jared: (strained voice) “I’m good.” (audience laugh)

Jensen: Yeah, (?like that?). (Jared laughs) (strained voice) “Medic.” (Jared and audience laugh)

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Jared: Anybody else? (points) There’s a- There’s a hand way back there.

• (0:03 BBS, 2:08 DW)- LA08Gold;Q2- 3x11; Int. Diner -Day; sync scene

Fan: (?Hi, Eric?). Good morning.

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Jared: Hi there.

Fan: (laughs) Hi. In the, um, episode Mystery Spot, in the restaurant scene you guys were going back and forth at the same time, did it take you a long time to do that? (audience laughs)

Jared: You know what? It didn’t take us that long-

Jensen: (shakes head) (says something off mic)

Jared: I’ll answer that. I will say-

Fan: Can you do it for us?

Jared: It was- um, You know what? I wish I remembered it. That’d be fun. But, it was- it was something that- We-We… If we’re filming at the same time, we usually get picked up in the same car every day. So, we ride.. to work together and we’ll go through our lines and go through scenes and ideas and whatever for the forty-five minutes or however long it takes to get to work. Uh-

And so, that day.. it was- We were- We had to do that. And then the right up before the take we ran into, uh, (thumbs to Jensen) his trailer or my trailer going , “Okay, let’s do it.” “Blah, blah, blah, blah.” “Bluh, bluh, bluh, bluah.”

I will say, that the only reason it took.. a long time (laughs) to- (points at Jensen) You kept saying, “Of the,” instead of, “the” or something.

Jensen raises his eyebrows and shrugs twice, smirking. The audience laughs.

Jared: And it’ll probably be in the outtakes. (laughs) It’ll probably be in the outtakes because I remember after the beat, he’d have add something, which made sense. The line- There was- I don’t remember the line.. But-

Jensen: (shrugs) Apparently, I didn’t either. (audience chuckles)

Jared: Correct speech was like, “Something of the something.” But the way it was written was without the of. So, I kept skipping the “of”.. (pointedly turns to Jensen and speaking directly into the mic) referring to the script. (audience laughs) Jensen was adlibbing. (Jensen nods and smacks his lips)

Jensen: (to Jared) Referring to my acting talent.

The audience laughs. Jared turns and nods, and then bursts out laughing. Jensen smiles. The audience starts clapping.

Jared: Touché. Touché.

•(1:27 BBS, 1:23 DW)- LA08Gold;T14- Dialogue and Audio challenges

Jensen: Um, so we- we- we actually got that pretty quick. In fact, (Jared: ?Yeah?) uh, one of the- one of the- the harder things about doing.. film or- or television like this is.. You know, in normal life people talk over each other. You know, that’s just- that’s just the way we, you know, we conversate. It is, uh, it- it-

Jared: (gets closer) I totally hear that. (audience laughs) (?) that’s Right. (Jensen: I could tell.) It seems to be a-a normal way to talk. (can’t hear the rest) (J2 separate and Jared laughs)

Jensen: Um, and we- we-we love to actually do scenes like that, but our-our sound guy would, you know, probably (turns to Jared) pull his hair out. (Jared: Right. Yeah.) (nods) So, we have to (hand chops) have that separation.

So, whenever we do stuff like that it’s- it’s strategic (claps). Like, we’re in (?)

Jared: We actually did this scene, um, I guess, Friday. Um, (Jensen: [nods] Yep) We were in the quad of UBC campus and, uh, the scene kind starts getting heated up. It’s-

Jensen: Supernatural! (audience laughs) (J2 bend over laughing)

Jared: Yeah, we need to tell that one.

Jensen: (?Y’all know how the story ends?) (audience giggles)

Jared: Um.. But the scene starts to get heated up. And we had found this really, I thought, comfortable rhythm of, you know, he- his line takes it to the next level, which takes us to the next level, then we start yelling at each other. And it felt pretty good and it felt real. And, like, he said, a lot of the times we found that getting into a heated discussion, especially, the kind of (Jensen: (?)) not really listening, your just kind of blabbing, you know?

Um, but they had the- they were like, “Okay. Bob (?didn’t have a good listen?). No (?cue?) sound. Don’t lose the energy, but can we break apart the lines?” “Well, uh, you know, it’s gonna lose some of the energy, but, um-“ (?what I think I’ll?) probably go through the takes and see if they can make it work. And, uh, go from that.”

Jensen: Well, you just trust your editors to.. make it right. Edited it the way you want it to be performed. And unfortunately, sometimes you can’t perform it that way, you just got to trust your editors that they will.. cut it together (?that way, so?). (Jared: Right.) Um-

•(3:15 BBS, 3:11 DW)- LA08Gold;T15- Fan encounter

Jensen: Yeah. Nah, I was- I was just saying, uh, Supernatural. (smiles)

Jared: Oh, yeah. (laughs)

Jensen: W-When we were at the- the shooting at the- the campus, we went to lunch and we got in, uh- um, we get driven around in a very large SUV. (holds a hand out) (Jared: Yea.) (?Unless you’re aware?). (Jared and the audience laugh) Uhhh-

Jared: Sadie in the back. Makes no difference.

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Jensen: Um, anyway. Jared got out of the front seat and he was heading to lunch. And this, uh, student, this young guy, with his backpack and kind of walks past Jared and does this,

Jensen mimics the student walking, recognizing Jared, slowing down, and then staring at Jared with an open mouth. The audience laughs. Jensen then mimics the student looking back at the SUV.

And- a-and then he’s looking, and I’m getting out of the backseat. (Jared laughs) And then he goes, (mimics the student’s mouth opening wider) (audience laughs) And the only thing he could muster was, “Supernatural!” (audience laughs then claps) And then he walks off. (zoom gesture)

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And I just thought to my- I-I looked at our-our driver Cliff, and I was just like, “Really, that was it? That’s all you (?could think of?)” (audience laughs) “That was it?” (shrugs) That was funny.

Jared: It-it was accurate, at least. (audience chuckles) He was right. (audience laughs)

Audience member: Usually they (?) you.

Jared: There’s- yeah. (nods) that’s exactly. Exactly. That was a funny thing to happen on set when you get to.. go out. (points to his left) Yes.

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• (0:02 BBS, 0:50 DW, 4:03 JL)- LA08Gold;Q3- Con experience

Fan: We.. really love having you here. (Jared: Uh huh.) Um, but we were wondering, how do you feel being here? I mean, what exactly were you thinking coming here? And maybe- (audience laughs)

Jared: You mean, literally, like, here?

Fan: Scared! Yeah, or (?nervous-?) are you nervous at all? I mean-

Jared: I’ll speak. Uh. (audience laughs) (Jensen: (?You’re afraid you’re just not inside my courage?).) You notice- You’ll notice there are very large men around us. They get rid of the nerves. No. Um.. (audience laughs) This is, uh.. This for me and.. I probably speak for Jensen as well is- is.. really the exciting part of filming the show.

I mean, we’re in Vancouver shooting long days and just basically waking up, going through our lines, acting, going to sleep. We don’t- I mean, we’re actors. We want flattery and praise. (audience laughs. Jensen smiles.) We want to know it’s making a difference. And- and- Uh, I know a lot who watch, um.. like Grey’s Anatomy, and CSI and stuff, which are all great shows, but a lot of ‘em watch it just because their friends at work watch it. So, they want to know what they’re talking about. It’s like, “You know what? I hang out with five people, they all watch it. So, I’ll gonna watch it myself just so I can know what they’re talking about if they’re talking about this or talking about that.”

But, y’all actually.. Y’all are supporting us and supporting the show. And that’s priceless. And so, we’re gonna back to work this week and we’re gonna have tons of faces and tons of.. praise and flattery and a lot of support for what we do. Because, it gets tough out there.

And, I mean, Friday March 28th, and we’re sitting out there and it’s snowing snowmen. It’s not- (audience laughs) (?) like, one knocked me on the ground. (Jensen molds his hands into a circle. Audience laughs) I hear (?Ginger?) going, “Really? We really have to work today? Like, half the world would call a snow day for this and we’re going to work.” (audience laughs)

But, you remember why you’re doing it. You can see (gestures to the audience) your faces and.. you know, hear your support for the show. (audience and J2 clap)Jared: We’ll do one more (points to his left) then we’ll (?).

• (1:59 BBS, 2:48 DW, 6:01 JL)- LA08Gold;Q4- Most fun episode to shoot in s3* (incomplete question, might be mislabeled)

Fan: (?) to get the most fun (?) all three seasons?

Audience member: Jared! Helloo! (clinks glass)

Jared: (briefly turns and laughs at the noise) (to fan) Uhm, this season? Probably this last one. (Jensen: Yeah) Probably the last one. (Jensen: thirteen)

That was a quick answer. Let’s go over here. (audience laughs) Uhh. Oh, there’s so many. (points to his right) I think you’re always about to shatter glass, so. (audience laughs) I was thanking the Marriott, I’m gonna to-

• (2:19 BBS, 3:08 DW, 6:21 JL)- LA08Gold;Q5- fan appreciation

Fan: I have to tell you, you- you just have- What you do. My daughter has been sick since January 2004. She’s been sick. She has not been in school. She started at fourteen. She’s now nineteen. She missed her sixteenth birthday or eighteenth birthday. And next month she has to go back into the hospital. (tearing up) It’s because of you two.. that she is the person she is.

She has always been positive and she loves you guys. And you are the two that keep her happy. You’re the guys she dates. (Jared: [shrugs] Thank you.) Because she doesn’t- (audience laughs) Now she see’s nobody. She’s in her room. She’s got (?) Deficiency Disorder from mono really bad. So, she’s gonna be in the hospital and she’ll be sick in two days from being here. But we had to come, because you’re the ones that are keeping her sane. Thank you. (audience claps)

Jared: Well, you’re the one that made her (?an amazing girl?). And she’s very pretty. (J2 clap) (?I’m very glad to have another girlfriend?). (?I sound like Beyonce. Beyonce should go to LA.?) (waves hand) But thank you, and y’all for- (holds up hands).

Fan: I didn’t think I’d get emotional, but you guys are great.

Jared: (?No, big. Besides?) there’s- there’s nothing, uh-

Jensen: (grabs mic) What’s-What’s you name?

Fan: Jamie.

Jensen: Jamie. (shrugs) I just like to know who I’m dating. (audience laughs)

Jared: I’m kind of (?amazed you’re spinning some kind of romance?). You. You in the black.

•(3:30 BBS, 7:32 JL) - Closing

Jared: Um, I think- (looks off stage to his left) I think we are, um.. going on to the next.. bit. Is that right? Oh, yeah. They were right. (points) Everybody’s like- (laughs)

Jensen: It won’t actually be us. It’ll be cardboard cutouts. (audience laughs) They’re very lifelike (audience laughs) Uhh-

Jared: (laughs) About as lifelike as Jensen (?is to hang with?). (audience oos) (?Okay, see you guys?)

Jared rushes off stage and hide behind the bodyguards. He then beckons Jensen to come at him.

Jensen: (to Jared) (?Yeah. Yeah. Hide?)

Jensen picks up the mic stand in offense, pointing the stand’s legs at Jared. But, then he puts it back down and Jared joins him back on stage.

Jensen: (to the audience) Alright guys, thank you.

The audience cheers and claps. Jared claps before both J2 walk off stage.

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I saw your post about asking you for your opinions on CLH characters!! You probably could see this coming from a million miles away since this is me but I still have to ask XD! What's your opinions on Rayman/ Ramon?? :3

Hi bestie I literally just referred to you and how you’re one of the only people who get him right whoops 😭💓 (also that was just general things and not just characters fyi so if you want to throw anything random at me feel free omg)

Now. Don’t get me wrong I do like him. I do like him and think he’s very important in the long run. However I do have some qualms with him and I know we’ve talked about this in depth before but it’s mostly episode 5 and 6 things. The guy has finally cracked after we’ve seen all the signs which is great but it just? Felt rushed. Like in theory I should love the complexities and everything that can be pulled apart because at the end of the day he’s more than his mental health state, more than a propaganda peddler and more than Bullfrog. (Oh my god just to clarify. I do like Rayfrog in a very slowburn, ‘first friend in a while but do I love them’ way. I like them before it sounds like meaningless bashing. That’s just Not Who Ramon Is. Whilst Bullfrog has clearly impacted him and helped him on his way to wreak havoc, that’s not an ingrained part of him when we’re looking at CLH. Because no character is just whoever they’re shipped with. Again! I like them a lot together but they’re also separate characters when it comes down to it yknow.)

That being said, I do love all of his on TV appearances (fake man excluded) because it clearly displays that kind of happy go lucky facade just… breaking up a bit and I definitely feel for him. If I had to make a placement on a list he’d probably share 5th or 6th because whilst he’s likable to me, I really need to see the end of his character arc to say anything more concrete yknow :0

[iamrupalihere]

The World’s Most Expensive Cars: A Symphony of Luxury and Performance

When it comes to supercars, price tags transcend mere numbers—they become symphonies of craftsmanship, power, and exclusivity. Buckle up as we explore the 2024 lineup of the world’s most expensive cars, where each vehicle is a masterpiece in motion.

1. Rolls-Royce La Rose Noire Droptail: $30 Million

Rolls-Royce steals the spotlight with the La Rose Noire Droptail—a two-seater that redefines luxury. Breaking away from the usual four-seat layout, this masterpiece features a removable hardtop. Its intricate inlays, composed of 1,603 individual pieces of Black Sycamore veneer, mimic the illustrious Black Baccara rose. The deep True Love exterior paint completes this all-encompassing piece of art on four wheels.

2. Rolls-Royce Boat Tail: $28 Million

The Rolls-Royce Boat Tail exudes elegance and exclusivity. Handcrafted to perfection, it’s a blend of automotive engineering and bespoke luxury. With a design inspired by classic J-class yachts, it features a rear deck that unfolds into a picnic set. This car isn’t just transportation—it’s an experience, a statement, and a testament to craftsmanship.

3. Bugatti La Voiture Noire: $156 Million

Bugatti’s La Voiture Noire lives up to its name—the black car. With a quad-turbocharged W16 engine, it roars with 1,479 horsepower. Its sleek lines and carbon fiber body make it a true work of art. Only one exists, and it’s a tribute to Bugatti’s heritage and innovation.

4. Pagani Zonda HP Barchetta: $146 Million

The Pagani Zonda HP Barchetta is a symphony of carbon fiber, titanium, and handcrafted details. Its open-top design and manual gearbox evoke pure driving pleasure. With a 7.3-liter naturally aspirated V12 engine, it’s a rare masterpiece limited to just three lucky owners.

5. SP Automotive Chaos: $120 Million

The SP Automotive Chaos lives up to its name—an enigma of power and design. Its twin-turbocharged V8 engine produces 1,500 horsepower. The Chaos is a hypercar for those who seek the extraordinary, with a price tag that reflects its exclusivity.

6. Rolls-Royce Sweptail: $106 Million

The Rolls-Royce Sweptail is a bespoke creation—a one-of-a-kind commission. Its flowing lines and handcrafted interior redefine opulence. The owner’s vision came to life, resulting in a car that’s as unique as a fingerprint.

7. Bugatti Centodieci: $72 Million

The Bugatti Centodieci pays homage to the iconic EB110. With a quad-turbocharged W16 engine, it accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in just 2.4 seconds. Limited to ten units, it’s a blend of history and cutting-edge engineering.

8. Mercedes-Maybach Exelero: $66 Million

The Mercedes-Maybach Exelero is a grand tourer with a 700-horsepower V12 engine. Its sleek lines and imposing presence turn heads. It’s not just a car; it’s a statement of power and prestige.

These cars aren’t mere modes of transportation—they’re dreams realized, status symbols, and feats of engineering. Whether you’re a collector, an enthusiast, or simply curious, these masterpieces redefine what it means to drive in style.

[magnoliovs]

... 𝖕 𝖗 𝖔 𝖉 𝖎 𝖌 𝖆 𝖑 —

did  you  hear  ?  OLIVER MARTINEZ  is  stuck  in  stonehaven  for  the  for  the  foreseeable  future  …  they've  lived  here  for  TWELVE YEARS  and  are  known  around  town  as  THE  CHAMPION,  though  back  in  high  school  they  were  better  known  for  being  voted  MOST LIKELY TO SUCCEED. 

if  i'm  not  mistaken,  they’re  a  TWENTY-THREE  year  old  senior  studying  ECONOMICS  (  i  really  hope  that  translates  well  into  their  role  as  a SCOUT  in  the  ‘new  world'  ).  according  to  my  records  they  were  originally  on  the  trip  because  his family are religious so it was business as usual for him to volunteer at weekends.  —  which  checks  out,  given  they’re  SERENDIPITOUS,  DUTIFUL  and  IRRESOLUTE. 

if  you’re  ever  trying  to  find  them,  your  best  bet  is  to  start  at  westwood sports complex  and  listen  for  someone  humming  like a prayer  by  madonna.  oh,  and  don’t  forget  to  try  calling  out  ollie  or  picturing  a portable tape player with fuzzy orange headphones, a dappling of bronze freckles, grass and blood staining white knee socks, not a hair out of place, a gold chain against sweat slicked collarbones for  extra  help.  let's  hope  the  chaos  doesn't  get  to  them  …

BIRTHDAY: 31st December SEXUALITY: Bisexual OCCUPATION: Bookkeeper @ Student Union / Bartender / Volunteer Skating Instructor HOMETOWN: Mt Pleasant, Utah HEIGHT: 6"0 FATHER: Jacob Martinez MOTHER:  Hannah Martinez SIBLINGS: Luke Martinez †, Nicole Martinez, Courtney Martinez, Austin Martinez, Zachary Martinez.

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swapping sets of clothes from your backpack in the bathroom, dappled sunlight through summer leaves, biting your tongue so hard it bleeds, top button of your shirt weighing on your windpipe, the slam of your teammates piling into you to celebrate, pressure so heavy you start to see the hairline cracks, catching glimpses of an endless kaleidoscope reflection of yourself in a mirrored elevator, someone always helping you back on your feet to keep going, insurmountable expectation the same old knife in the gut, praying to no-one because you lost your faith twelve years and two lives ago.

PARALLELS: Connor Waldron (Normal People), Jackson Marchetti (Sex Education), Neil Perry (Dead Poet's Society), Lane Kim (Gilmore Girls), Luisa Madrigal (Encanto), Fiona/Lip Gallagher (Shameless), Grizz Visser (The Society)

EASY-GOING, LAID BACK, CHILL, TALENTED, LUCKY, MAGNANIMOUS, GENTLEMANLY, COMPETITIVE, INNOVATIVE, LOQUACIOUS, CHARMING, CONSCIENTIOUS, JOCULAR, RESOURCEFUL, DISCIPLINED, BRIGHT, DEFLECTIVE, PALATABLE, SELF-CONSCIOUS, SECRETIVE, ADAPTABLE, GUARDED, RESPONSIBLE, ANXIOUS, CONFLICTED, CONTROLLING, INDEPENDENT, REPRESSED, PROTECTIVE.

[ SIBLING DEATH MENTION ]

Oliver was born the product of his father's illegitimacy not far from Salt Lake City, dumped in the side garage with the faulty lock on New Year's Day. A devastating atom bomb to the most nuclear of all families. Golden Labrador, white picket fence and one child into their 'maybe this year' run for a dozen included. Two weeks, a cryptic pregnancy tale and some hard suspicion later, Hannah 'had' Ollie and unbeknownst to him he's been paying for it ever since.

Luke was eight years older than Ollie, who the church now hailed a miracle child after so long without blessings. He was a good big brother, Oliver remembers that well, who never copied the critical manner the adults around them had toward him. A few months after graduating high school and his sister's second birthday, they got the phone call that he was gone.

Life as he knew it caved in around them, their mom didn't get out of bed for a year and a half. They moved twice before leaving Utah entirely. Ollie shouldered the burden. He showered his younger siblings every morning, made them breakfast, got them to doctor's appointments, and ran the house though they hated him for acting like a parent when he wasn’t. 

He had to learn fast that the Latter Day Saints manner freaked most people out even more so the further away from Salt Lake they drove. The Stepford Wife, Brady Bunch, Donna Reed Uncanny Valley too perfect of it all needed to be dialed way down if they were going to survive.

Nicole, Courtney, Austin and Zach were raised almost entirely by Ollie though they couldn't escape being homeschooled. Nicole is fifteen at the oldest, currently. The Martinez house is about forty minutes outside of Stonehaven in the woods.

Oliver knew that this was his one and only chance as the mythical new kid to reinvent his image. To craft exactly what he wanted to be; not the family punching bag or the let-down but some impossible golden boy with no cares or scratches or dents. He observed, learning quickly how to become a reflective surface and give everyone back exactly what they wanted to see, never quite letting anyone close enough to break the facade. People know his family is religious, not that they're Mormon.

Always in a ridiculous amount of extracurriculars, on multiple sports teams never quite a super-star but consistently good with a few random spells of luck that gave him gold or memorable moments. Joined voluntary committees a lot. Basically all his family ever did at home was family night: board games, musical performances, talent shows, little plays, and sports in the yard. You can never win against Oliver in card games.

Oliver's image is painstakingly squeaky clean, though he comes off as fairly effortless it's held together by pure stress and winging it. His family expect a saint, they compare him to the Church and to the perfect ghost of his older brother so he'll never win.

He's always been lucky, with people, how seemingly just talking could get his foot into doors and un-crease furrowed brows. A neatly paved path of opportunities in his favour giving him the foundation for success. Half of him feels powerful, achievement tangible and the other half is sick at how unhappy he is.

His parents need to divorce but they were 'married before the eyes of God for all eternity' so Ollie knows he couldn't bring that up.

Best sport is ice hockey, played soccer, ran track, on the swim and baseball teams. Boy Scouts of America love this man.

Hardly dated anyone for the first eighteen years of his life. He was squeaky clean, when he didn't go on his mission as soon as he graduated and didn't go to a Utah or Mormon-approved college he figured if he was going to hell he might as well do it thoroughly. Whenever he reached the bar they just moved it anyway.

Ollie is the friend in high school whose house you'd never been to. Rides a bicycle wherever he needs to go, in all weathers.

Got shunned and thrown out of his house a ton, couch-surfed and has had various shared situations since. It's very complicated. The Church ward they're part of published in the newsletter most of Ollie's business, he knows their community are punishing the rest of his family for his transgressions and 'fall from grace'.

Most people locally don't know that Ollie ever had an older brother. He bats hard for the rest of the siblings.

WANTED CONNECTIONS

TBA my brain is soup

[frog-and-rat]

The Shattered Tower (102)

I am Playing ShadowDark with my kids, in the mini campaign setting of The Gloaming from Cursed Scroll #1.

Hex (102) “The Shattered Tower” has a short blurb about a ruined keep with a trap door leading to a cistern with something slithering in the murky waters.

Time to flesh this out:

The Thistlewood Keep is centuries gone, but a rumor remains of a priceless diadem, never recovered. The legend varies widely and no detail seems to remain the same from one re-telling to the next, save for one. The Princess of Thistlewood Keep, moments before destruction, took her family’s most cherished possession and hid it away. Though the enemy razed the keep, the treasure was never found! Much speculation has been made, and many a young adventurer has often dreamed of finding the treasure!

More recent generations have used the keep as a sort of initiation or hazing ritual, much like a snipe hunt. Young adventurers have often been sent by their older siblings to go find the treasure and prove their worth. After a trek of adventure, or boredom, the children are lucky to return with an odd button, or a piece of a broken plate from the keep.

And more recent still, a few months ago, there has been a report of a pair of monstrous birds nesting in upon the ruined tower. Their bodies are like giant eagles with the head of a mighty stag! Their talons and antlers are iron hard, and razor sharp! Hunters have warned all the townsfolk and all the children to avoid the area and STOP these hazing rites, for this monsters will most surely kill and eat anyone who disturbs it’s nest. There have been a few failed attempts to kill these monsters ending in the death of several hunters each time. For now, hunters are avoiding coming too near the area.

Elsewhere in the Gloaming, a camp of Outlaws led by Grieves Redthorne. Recently, a group of goblin bandits attempted to waylay some of his men, but quickly surrendered and begged mercy, and to make it up to Redthorne and join his group. For this crime, the group was offered a quest to atone for their transgressions. “Bring back the Thistlewood Diadem!” The goblins, unaware of the monstrous birds made haste to appease this Grieves Redthorne, grateful for this uncharacteristic offer of mercy!

When my players arrive, there is a chance the perytons will be present at the nest, but I hope to get them into the cistern where they will meet the goblins. Sinred, the now leader of the goblin group will explain how they’re all surely doomed! Because the perytons have killed 2 of their group and won’t let them leave the cistern! And even now, lurking within the cistern, a giant snake which has eaten another of their group! Sinred will beg the PC’s for help, and even offer the treasure if the party helps them escape! Sinred claims that before Dink was swallowed whole, by the snake, he had clasped in his hands, a small treasure chest! Sinred and Urn, the remaining 2 goblins, were too afraid to fight the snake on their own, and after it’s meal, the snake slithered away and ignored them, as they did not attack it.

If my players defeat the snake, they will indeed find a goblin and a waterlogged chest containing the diadem. Sinred will attempt to betray the PC’s and steal back the diadem if given half a chance.

The perytons are a great threat to the PC’s at level 2. And I will give the PC’s ample warning to not stick around to fight them.

The PC’s will find another exit, a crack in the wall of the cistern, that will lead into a vast cave system. I have some tables ready with content from Veins of the Earth, and the ShadowDark core rules. I want to open up the idea of cave exploration, as we have not yet done this, and also have some possible shortcuts, throughout the Gloaming.

Peryton

AC 14, HP 30, ATK 1 talon +5 (2d6) and 1 tail +5 (1d8), MV double near (fly), S +2, D +4, C +0 , I +2, W +0, Ch -2, AL C, LV 6

[guessimate]

I forgot to mention this before, but I think 3 of the lots I put in this neighbourhood are green, and the other 2 are desert-like. I think it’s because of the terrain I use, but I don’t mind it. In fact I think it’s pretty cool this way, so I didn’t paint the terrain on these lots. I imagine some families just live further away. Maybe the green lots are on the European part of the Mediterranean Sea and the desert ones are around Egypt or something.

~*~

Today we’re visiting the Tia family, who got quite lucky till a certain point. They got two babies, so they’re luckier than the previous families at least. They got a baby boy and the first baby girl in this ‘hood.

But not everything was perfect in this household. For some reason this lot was hotter than lots of the families I’d played before, and they were the first ones to get sunburnt. This family also didn’t get a genie, unlike the previous families.

~*~ 

The baby boy is called Zet. He’s a blue-eyed blonde, I think. He’s as nice and sloppy as his mother, and as outgoing as his father. He’s a Libra: 0 sloppy, 6 outgoing, 7 active, 5 playful, 10 nice.

I called the baby girl Mutneferet. She seems to have the same hair and eye colour as her older brother. She’s a Capricorn: max neat, 0 shy, 2 lazy, max playful, and max nice. So she’s as shy and nice as her mom was.

Satiah – Aquarius (Family): 0 sloppy, 0 shy, 6 active, 9 playful, 10 nice.

Jonah – Scorpio (Fortune): 6 neat, 6 outgoing, 8 active, 0 serious, 5 nice.

~*~ 

I really didn’t intend for this to happen and I only made Satiah’s hair green because I wanted something else for her and her nose looked sort of witchy to me… but she became a plantsim, so I guess it was fate! Satiah didn’t suffer any miscarriages and both her babies are meant to live till they’re elders. 

Sadly, Satiah was rolled to die at her 2nd birth (she rolled 1 out of 100 so no mercy). I gave her the deadly poison I now have as I didn’t want to start a fire. Zet ended up in aspiration failure when his mom died, but at least he has fond memories of her, as she had taught him to walk and talk before she passed away.

I’m actually positively surprised the head of this family cares about teaching his daughter toddler skills [he got wants for it] after his wife’s death. Only his wife was interested in teaching their son skills, but that’s probably because she’s a family sim.

They ended up with 5700$ after selling all the jumbo fish they had. They haven’t sold their harvestables yet, some of them are mouthwatering, courtesy of their mother.

[tyonfs]

GIRL DONT GET ME STARTED ON WEBTOONS I WILL NEVER SHUT UP!!!!

but omg yeah i see what u mean w operation true love HAHA the sister is so annoying so it gives me SO MUCH satisfaction to see her not getting her way rn!! omg if u do decide to start it again lmk!!! 🤭 AND JIMIN AND YE EUN ARE GETTING THEIR OWN WEBTOON??? OMG E2L ARC I LOVE THEM SM CRIESNFKGNRN

i'm literally keeping up w so many webtoons rn (i gave up on anime bc of webtoons im sorry alice 😭😔) but my two absolute favs r seasons of blossom and honey lemon!!! (both of them update on the same day too so that's lucky for me LOL) but i recently found this new webtoon called muse on fame and i am Very Invested already!!! i also keep up w hello baby, go away romeo, operation: true love, maybe meant to be, the guy upstairs, get schooled!, perfect marriage revenge, there must be happy endings, dark moon: the blood altar, and marry my husband!! plus a lot of daily pass ones like designated bully, reality quest etc. OH and i don't even like horror but i found this rlly good dystopian one called everything is fine! it's currently on hiatus but i m super excited for the next season! i might also start purple hyacinth bc it's on hiatus rn and i can catch up quickly! beyond virtual is also rlly cool but it's also on hiatus rn unfortunately :(

which are ur fav webtoons??

also omg i saw u saw the dreamies live!!! THATS SO AWESOME I SHALL HAVE TO LIVE VICARIOUSLY THRU U :') which of their songs did u enjoy seeing live the most? and how were they irl? like . do they look the same as in videos? (idk if this makes sense but like are they taller than they seem or like. basically how are their personalities irl? 😭)

I'm so sorry for the long ask lmao i tend to get too excited whenever someone asks me ab webtoons 💀🥲 i hope ur day has been great and you got to eat lots of good food and stayed hydrated!! – anime :)

HAHAH i’ve been on the webtoon grind for the past 6 years it’s hard to escape 🫨

the art style is still rlly nice so i would consider reading true love operation tbh LMAOAO but love triangles also stress me out 😔 (odd girl out you have ruined me) also i’m not sure if i translated the raws wrong but i think they’re just getting extra chapters :’)) lowkey…….. i like them more than the main couple 🫣

LMAOAODJJ ANIME ANON U EVOLVED INTO WEBTOON ANON 😩 omg seasons of blossom is my absolute fav i remember when the first three chapters were out and i thought it was the cutest webtoon ever and now it’s the most emotionally damaging work of art i’ve ever read 😭💗 i fast passed to the end and wow. incredibly beautiful. and honey lemon is so cute too!!! i hate the boyfriend 😡😡😡 cant wait for her to break up with him!!! omg muse on fame is sooo good i love the art style so much 🤭 hello baby is from the author of age matters right ?? i subscribed but i’m yet to check it out :0 i will have to once i catch up with unordinary LOL

omg i read those too except the daily pass ones 😩 dear x and suhee0 are the only ones i’ve been trying to keep up with </3 everything is fine is one of my favoritesss i’m so sad it’s been on hiatus tho 😔 omg the hybe webtoons im ngl i think the only one that caught my attention was the lesserafim one :’)

hmm i’d say my favorites at the moment are seasons of blossom, villain with a crush, cursed princess club, phone addict, our secret alliance, odd girl out, exchange student, the fox club, act like you love me, my dud to stud boyfriend, and after school lessons for unripe apples 💗💗 my all time favorites would have to be romance 101, swimming lessons for a mermaid, and seasons of blossom 🌷🌷

oh my god i have post concert memory loss from tds2 i swear but they were so unreal 😭💖 like i couldn’t believe they were right in front of my eyes they were incredibleee i think my fav stage to watch was trigger the fever 🥹🥹 ngl i think they’re shorter irl . but my guy friends are also 6’3 and i’m pretty short so i have a skewed perception anyways LMAOAO but they’re so passionate when they perform and RENJUN was so energetic i was so soft watching him 🥰 but they are all so much more gorgeous irl like YES they are beautiful on camera but it’s such a different experience in the flesh

don’t apologize !!! also i hope you’re staying healthy as well and make sure you have a good day 🥰💖

[lostandfoundfm]

𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐢𝐧𝐠 ⸻ 𝐥𝐮𝐜𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐫

if you’re hearing COME ON EILEEN by DEXYS MIDNIGHT RUNNERS playing, you have to know LUCILLE “LUCY” ARCHER (SHE/HER/HERS; CIS WOMAN) is near by! the THIRTY-THREE year old AUTHOR has been in denver for, like, THIRTY-THREE YEARS. they’re known to be quite IDEALISTIC, but being SPIRITED seems to balance that out. or maybe it’s the fact that they resemble EMILIA CLARKE. personally, i’d love to know more about them seeing as how they’ve got those SEEKING BUT NEVER FINDING, BRIGHT YELLOW JUMPSUITS, POORLY PAINTED MURALS IN EACH ROOM OF HER HOUSE, and THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE vibes. and maybe i’ll get my chance if i hang out around the CHERRY CREEK DISTRICT long enough!

hello, i'm lauryn! i'm twenty-two years old and currently reside in the cst timezone. my preferred pronouns are she/her/hers. i'm looking forward to writing with everyone! below is some information about lucy.

✗ ⸻ BACKGROUND

[ ! ] TRIGGER WARNING : adoption, mention of bullying, unhealthy relationships (codependency), running away from home, implied mental illness, breakup

0 0 1 ⸻ lucille archer is a denver native born in colorado’s capital to a single mother named eleanor. her adoption had been arranged since a month after eleanor found out she was pregnant. lucy’s father skipped out at the first sign of serious commitment, and eleanor didn’t feel mentally or physically equipped to raise a child, so lucy was placed with janie and craig archer. they had always had it in their mind that they would rather adopt than conceive a biological child, and thus little baby lucy was placed with them directly after her birth.

0 0 2 ⸻ janie and craig were relatively eccentric parents who had a fairly atypical parenting style. they treated lucy as more of an equal than their subordinate, taking into consideration what she thought and felt about decisions in the family. janie was an acclaimed artist whose work was featured in galleries around the country, while craig was an author who wrote mystery novels. the two were nomadic before lucy’s birth, but the arrival of their child kept them in place in denver. they didn’t want to uproot her, and lucy expressed discomfort with that from a young age, as well.

0 0 3 ⸻ while there were certain obvious things that lucy couldn’t do, her parents let her make her own decisions for the most part. if she wanted to attend church with a friend or start playing soccer, they didn’t question it. their idea was that lucy would learn something about herself in the process, or learn something about life that could be applied in some area. outsiders to the family thought that they were rather pretentious, but lucy grew up appreciating the way she was raised and the things she was surrounded by.

0 0 4 ⸻ janie and craig’s relationship was one that inspired lucy in many ways. she wanted to have something similar, something real. her head was full of beautiful ideas and wonderful notions, but she had trouble physically manifesting them. she would write them down as they came to her, but holding them in her hands didn’t ever bring her much joy. as a result, lucy grew up to be a hopeless romantic in many ways. she not only romanticized her relationships with others, but also life itself. it led to some joyous moments, but some harsh letdowns, as well.

0 0 5 ⸻ lucy had an average outlook on school; she didn’t really struggle with it, but much of it was monotonous. at her house, they were painting the walls every other tuesday and shamelessly failing at singing opera; school seemed dull in comparison. lucy was allowed to dress herself from a young age, and this wasn’t always met with positive reactions from her peers. if there was one thing that was well drilled into her, however, it was to be confident in who she was and what she wanted, rather than take into account what others thought she should be.

0 0 6 ⸻ having such relaxed parents may have not gone well for others, but janie and craig got lucky with lucy. she was receptive to her parents’ thoughts and statements while also taking into account her own. whether or not it was their intention, janie and craig raised an artistic, confident young girl who could surely take on high school with her head held high… right?

0 0 7 ⸻ wrong. high school tore apart many of lucy’s preconceived notions about the world, as it does for many others. lucy felt neglected by her peers, like she was an outcast. she really only had one friend, her closest friend since childhood, and she wanted that to be enough, but it wasn’t. this beautiful world she had created in her mind wasn’t quite rooted in reality. in reality, her crushes never really liked her back and she wasn’t often recognized for her strengths and talents. after a while, all of the positive affirmations from her parents just became white noise. she would think, well, they were her parents, they had to like her.

0 0 8 ⸻ lucy had always known she was adopted, and she was fine with that, but being rejected by the world as a teenager rocked that stability and security that she had with the idea. it wasn’t until age fifteen where she met someone who was enamored with her. they appeared to relate to her struggles and understand her way of thinking. it was a hell of a high for lucy who was finally getting her wish of having such a passionate relationship.

0 0 9 ⸻ it felt like it was them against the world, and lucy’s outlook on life had been taken to new heights. it wasn’t healthy, she would recall in retrospect. of course, they didn’t really know any better. they were caught up in it all, the whole first love experience. maybe a little too caught up in it seeing as how they devised a plan to run off together.

0 1 0 ⸻ it wasn’t a well thought out plan whatsoever. he could drive and she was able to scrounge up some money, so they took off toward texas. it was a whirlwind romance, she thought. what could be more romantic? only, the dream didn’t last. barely a week in, they were virtually out of money and growing weary. the idea seemed so grandiose and big and incredible, and now they knew that it was a stupid, impulsive thing to do. they were coming down from the ideas of running off and becoming their own people and taking on the world together and building a life, and they were left with reality.

0 1 1 ⸻ lucy was reluctant to let go of the dream that they had built and woven, but her partner had made his peace with it. they ended up back in denver only two weeks after running off. once the novelty had worn off, it seemed he didn’t want lucy anymore. he had told her that what they had was not enough, and she seemed to understand. it was a rush that they kept chasing, and when things stood still in denver, it was hard to keep the passion going.

0 1 2 ⸻ their adventure was one that impacted lucy in both positive and negative ways. she was able to let go of some of her fantasies, but sometimes she wondered what would’ve happened if they had stayed down in texas, put more effort into it. she’d imagine herself waiting tables at a quaint little diner where everyone knew her name, and… wait a second? what if she wrote about her fantasies?

0 1 3 ⸻ her parents’ suggestion was out of love and a little bit of concern. lucy had always kept a journal and a notebook full of her ideas, but she never really did anything with them. this new hobby of hers began to occupy most of her time, acting as a healthy outlet for her not so healthy thoughts. oddly enough, though lucy was a phenomenal romance writer, what she really loved to write was horror. stories of romance and drama came easily to her, so horror stories were something new and shiny in her sights.

0 1 4 ⸻ lucy found that when she channeled her creative energy into writing, she felt more comfortable in her own skin. the things that she had always beaten herself up for were now things that she felt as though she could entertain others with, maybe even make a profit off of. so, following graduation, lucy took a couple of creative writing courses and hunkered down in her bedroom at her parents’ house, writing away.

0 1 5 ⸻ outside of writing, lucy didn’t attend college, though she did maintain a fairly normal social life. there was still a sort of hierarchy in the “real world”, she found, but people outside of high school didn’t seem to care as much about your status or appearance. lucy had found some solid friends and enjoyed the denver scene, finding art and beauty in places where others couldn’t. as an adult, she still romanticized people and ideas, but she also had the capability to remind herself that they weren’t always realistic (most of the time, at least). still, it made life a little less dull.

0 1 6 ⸻ by the age of twenty, she had a book deal! elysian fields ended up being a breakout success, and lucy was shocked. everything happened so quickly. suddenly, they wanted a sequel, and what about a book tour? then, there was the movie deal. lucy had never expected it, and she had mixed emotions. in truth, it wasn’t a project she was super passionate about. it was a cliche young adult romance novel about the leading roles in a movie who read too much into their chemistry and fall in love. the idea came to lucy after she was met with a confused face yet again from her friends, who she would pitch her ideas to, and they gently recommended that she should write something that would sell. and sell, it did.

0 1 7 ⸻ it was quite a change, going from living in your parents house to being whisked all over the country. foolishly, lucy had allowed herself to be roped into a contract promising at least two more books. it wasn’t that writing the sequels was especially challenging, just that there were other things that she wanted to devote time to. but when she would pitch her other ideas to her publishing company, they would ask why she was trying to fix something that wasn’t broken. on top of that, her friends would remind her that, if she completed the series, she would have enough money to fund whatever else she may want to pursue.

0 1 8 ⸻ so, she rode it out. by the age of twenty-four, two more books in the series had been published. there was a one-off in there, too, but it mostly flew under the radar. when her deal ended, lucy felt relieved. she had made a substantial amount of money and acquired some level of fame and status, but the entire ordeal had worn her out. so, she bought a mediterranean style mansion in the cherry creek district that resembled one of her doll houses growing up, and spent the next three years of her life holed up in it.

0 1 9 ⸻ the first year was dedicated to fixing it up the way she wanted it. she hired a two-person staff and they helped keep things in shape while lucy decorated and altered things to her liking. by the end of it, the house was transformed. it would have to be redone if she sold it because it was far from the standard marketable house at that point, but it was hers and it was everything she could’ve asked for.

0 2 0 ⸻ when she looked around her home and saw nothing she wanted to alter, lucy was stumped. there wasn’t anything left to do, and she was then forced to process the last few years of her life. everything had gone by so quickly that she barely had time to adjust and catch up with herself. this year was rough and involved a few vacations, but very little socializing with her loved ones. people grew concerned for lucy, but she would insist that she was fine. she was just enjoying her wealth, she would tell them. it looked a little funny, though, that lucy seemed to be avoiding the house that she just spent a year fixing up. too quiet, too little to do, she would think.

0 2 1 ⸻ it was almost as though her growth was stunted and she was still that twenty year old sitting in her childhood room, writing and dreaming of recognition. that recognition and adoration that she had craved was not all it was cracked up to be, especially since it was recognition for something she didn’t quite think was worthy of it. lucy was at least thankful for the fact that people usually didn’t recognize book authors by their appearance, so she was often able to navigate through public spaces without having to face much acknowledgement.

0 2 2 ⸻ in the third year, she wrote. and wrote. and wrote. she had found an agent who believed in her, who was willing to work with her if it was horror that she wanted to write. this agent was her comfort, and the first person to really ground her. they told lucy that, even if that series wasn’t all that special to her, it was to others. lucy began to make her peace with it; she had evoked emotion in others, taken them to a different world through her words, spurred their imagination. it was really quite beautiful when she meditated on it. this year was about healing and growing. lucy learned to take it easy the year that she spent writing; too much chaos was evidently not good for her. part of her considered seeking out her birth mom in this year, but decided it would be best not to. she didn’t have really any unresolved feelings toward that situation, and she imagined, by the lack of communication, her birth mother felt the same. there was perhaps a small part of her that was curious, but she knew that her curiosity could be damaging, so she banished it.

0 2 3 ⸻ on her twenty-seventh birthday, lucy’s best friend had insisted on taking her out to a club, but lucy bargained for a board game night instead. so, they went out to find a new board game and lucy met someone that would alter the course of her life. they were intelligent, thoughtful, attractive. more than that, they had clicked right away. lucy had always given thought to the concept of soulmates, but hadn’t really entertained it until she met them. it was the true definition of love at first sight. the kicker was that lucy hadn’t gotten their contact information.

0 2 4 ⸻ cue a dramatic artist going to that same bookstore every other day for three months in the hopes of seeing them again. everyone around her thought she was bonkers, and lucy agreed, but she still made the trip. lucy would grab a coffee there each day and browse for half an hour; finally, a little over three months in to this seemingly hopeless endeavor, they appeared. of course, she was not at all transparent about the circumstances of them meeting again, playing it off as a coincidence. lucy finally got their contact information, and the two hit it off.

0 2 5 ⸻ there was a genuine compatibility and attraction between the two, and lucy thought: this is it. he didn’t seem to care much for her status, she thought, though it didn’t seem to hinder anything. perhaps she had romanticized things a little too much, but her partner reflected back that same infatuation. they would write each other love letters, be vulnerable together; lucy eventually even admitted that she would wait for them in that same bookstore that they had met at months prior. it was a fairy tale in her mind, until it wasn’t. they were in a relationship for a whole six months before it ended. the last month of it, things had begun to deteriorate. it seemed to boil down to a lack of communication, but they ended it with lucy. this crushed her.

0 2 6 ⸻ lucy felt entirely connected to this person, and thought it was shared. she was willing to work on things, but they did not wish to do so, or to even see lucy anymore. the mourning process was brutal for her. not only was lucy forced to grieve the loss of this person in her life, she also grieved their future, her future, that she had grown to see as an inevitability. it was peculiar to others, only six months together, and she was in shambles. it was just the kind of person that lucy was; she loved intensely. the year after the breakup was a bit of a blur. her goal was to get through each day, and she did with the help of her agent and her loved ones, but it was hard.

0 2 7 ⸻ approaching her thirties, lucy made further strides in her career. with her agent’s help, she was able to get some of her novels that she was more passionate about published. her foray into horror was relatively successful, though it was unlikely anything would ever match the success of her first series. she was perfectly fine with that.

0 2 8 ⸻ the past few years of lucy’s life have been somewhat of a drag. she has had a couple flings, adopted a couple cats, and gotten involved in some charity work. though she has mostly healed from her breakup five years ago, there is still a lingering pain from it. lucy has developed healthier coping mechanisms, she has many friends and family to rely on, and she feels established in this world. if she wanted to, she could’ve retired a decade ago, but work keeps her busy, keeps her distracted. that little spark in her has dwindled, but she is trying to rekindle it to the best of her ability.

0 2 9 ⸻ nowadays, you can find her in the cherry creek district, though she often ventures into rino when she’s feeling social. she doesn’t really fit in with the standard cherry creek residents. lucy can come off as eccentric and dresses in colorful, often somewhat childlike clothing. that romantic life that she so desperately desires? she’s still searching for it. but, for now, she is taking in the stability and enjoying the small pleasures as they come. getting her hopes up would be a bit too risky for her at this point in time, but you can usually still find her with a smile on her face. some would even describe her as a ray of sunshine at times.

tldr ; a denver native who is a hopeless romantic and accidentally became a best selling romance author when she really wanted to write horror. had her heart broken a couple times, but she’s trying to stay positive (secretly she is still searching for a beautiful romantic life full of wonder) kind of a strange lady but super sweet and nice to be around

✗ ⸻ PERSONALITY

0 0 1 ⸻ lucy’s personality has evolved as she has aged. that vibrant hopeless romantic that once existed is still very much there, but is a bit duller now. she tries to stay optimistic, appreciate the small things, and enjoy whatever stability she can find, but there will always be a part of lucy that wants more. the world is still a wondrous place to her, but reality has poisoned it in many ways, and she finds it harder nowadays to romanticize things.

0 0 2 ⸻ regardless, you will often find her with a smile on her face. despite her eccentric nature, people tend to gravitate toward lucy initially. she radiates an energy that brings people in, but can also push them out just as easily; some people find it hard to be around lucy’s intense emotions. she is incredibly passionate when it comes to her interests. if you were to view her simply from her activities (backyard tanning, sunday mimosas, attending plays), you might mistake her for entirely average.

0 0 3 ⸻ deep down, lucy is relatively unstable, which isn’t always hard to pick up on with her. she is a bit childlike in nature, but has a moderate maturity level for her age. as lucy derives a lot of pleasure from her relationships with others, she can be a bit impressionable at times, even gullible. if she’s frustrated, she often seems a bit more stubborn. this especially manifests in her persistence to avoid things she isn’t ready to face, even if that means she has to spend a year of her life fixing a house. at this point in time, lucy is kind of detached because she is tired of being disappointed and is trying to avoid hope.

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Oh gosh, I love this so much, because it’s a handy, albeit slightly awkward, way for the writers to drop lore on the different species and especially what would be considered the standard thinking and expectations from species to species. It’s particularly interesting that Garrus blabs so much run-of-the-mill turian prejudice while at the same time the entire point of his character, even back then in ME1, is that he isn’t and is in fact unable of being your average/normal/expected turian.

More thoughts, and bonus quotes under the cut.

Bonus quotes (Source ; Transcription differs sometimes from subtitles in video because frequently the game subtitles don’t exactly match the voice-over). I’m keeping the numbering from @servantofclio so it could be interesting to collate our posts together, but only if they are okay with it :

Kaidan & Ashley

0.

Ashley : The Council isn’t going to ask me any questions, are they ?

Kaidan : I doubt it. We’ve made our reports. Now we just have to trust Ambassador Udina.

Ashley : No we don’t, sir.

(In context, probably before the first meeting with the Council. Hence, “0.” ! No idea why Ashley is immediately dismissive of Udina - family prejudice against politicians ?)

4.

Ashley : Am I imagining things, LT, or are your abilities getting stronger ?

Kaidan : I’ve always held back a little when I used my powers on living targets. Fear of hurting someone I guess. But after what I saw on Eden Prime, I’m not holding back anymore. Not against the geth, not against anyone.

I’m pretty sure that’s the in-game explanation as to why Kaidan, someone who completed his biotic training long ago and therefore should have a stable power level, is levelling up throughout ME1.

5.

Kaidan : Hearing about the Protheans makes me wonder if some distant civilization is going to find our artifacts someday and study us.

Ashley : No, sir. When some distant civilization finds our artifacts, we’ll be right there to explain what they are.

Kaidan : I hope so, Williams, but I’ll bet the Protheans thought the same thing.

6.

Kaidan : So, Williams, are you happy you signed on with Commander Shepard ?

Ashley : I’m not sure, Lieutenant. Every time I think I have a handle on things, the universe banks hard to port.

Kaidan : Well, don’t let anybody know. A big gun and a confident attitude will get you through a lot in life.

7.

Ashley : It’s strange. The geth are attacking, and everyone around here is still worried about ordinary business.

Kaidan : It’s politics, Williams. The Council won’t raise the alarm until they’re certain about the threat.

Ashley : The threat ? Did they not see the vids of Eden Prime ? See, this is why I hate politics.

I really like how Kaidan & Ashley are arguably moderate/realistic examples of Paragon and Renegade as something more human and humane than just a rehash of Light Side/Dark Side - Kaidan focusing on the bigger picture and showing a greater awareness of the ways the galaxy works (#0, #1) but being a little naively trusting with the people in power (#0, #7) and overall taking a long view even existentially (#5) - Ashley more than a little cynical but enough to be realistic (#0), outraged by the difference between the way things are and they way they ought to be (#7) and overall unwilling to consider the possibility of things she wouldn’t like to be true (#5).

Kaidan & Ashley get the most exchanges together (8) out of all ME1 companions !

Kaidan & Tali

4.

Tali : Is it true humans stopped using the biotic implants you were fitted with, Lieutenant ?

Kaidan : My headaches can be pretty bad, and I’m one of the lucky L2 implants. The L3′s are safer.

Tali : That makes sense. What use is harnessing that power if it causes more harm than good to your people ?

In contrast to the krogan and turian perspectives, Tali is the only non-human companion who approves the Alliance’s choice of discontinuing the L3′s (Liara has a completely different exchange with Kaidan).

5.

Tali : Biotics are rare among quarians. I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone except the asari with your strength, Lieutenant.

Kaidan : I’ve always held back a little when I used my powers on living targets. Fear of hurting someone I guess. But after what I saw on Eden Prime, I’m not holding back anymore. Not against the geth, not against anyone.

Casual confirmation that quarian biotics do exist, btw.

6.

Kaidan : Hearing about the Protheans makes me wonder if some distant civilization is going to find our artifacts someday and study us.

Tali : The worlds we abandoned when the geth revolted serve as just such an example. It is a reminder of our mortality.

Kaidan : I’m not afraid to die. I guess I just want to be remembered by more than a few trinkets in a ruin somewhere.

Ashley & Tali

5.

Ashley : I’ve heard some humans are angry at the quarians after the attack on Eden Prime. After all, you created the geth.

Tali : The geth killed billions and forced us from our homeworld. Most quarians believe we have paid properly for our mistake.

Ashley : Hopefully having you with us fighting Saren will change people’s minds.

That’s verbatim the same exchange as Kaidan & Tali #1. Overall, there are more than a few exchanges where Kaidan and Ashley have the same dialogue and are interchangeable ; surprisingly, you also have instances where Liara & Tali have identical dialogue (see below).

6.

Ashley : Hey Tali, I heard a rumor that under those environmental suits, you quarians are partially synthetic.

Tali : No. Living in the clean environment of the flotilla has weakened our immune systems. The environmental suits protect against diseases.

Ashley : It still makes you look a little like a geth, though. I’m just saying.

The conversations between Tali and Ashley are… awkward, and more than a little racist in #6, with Ashley showing she doesn’t understand how prejudice work in #3 (People are prejudiced against quarians because you don’t stay anywhere long enough for them to know you. => If you stayed put long enough people would like you, they wouldn’t be prejudiced against you.). Ashley’s prejudice, however, is informed by her blatant lack of experience and her obliviousness, and like @servantofclio notes there is genuine concern for Tali’s well-being in #3. Compare the same conversation with Garrus in Ashley’s stead (Garrus & Tali #6) and it’s quite different.

Kaidan & Garrus

6.

Kaidan : Hearing about the Protheans makes me wonder if some distant civilization is going to find our artifacts someday and study us.

Garrus : All empires fall, Lieutenant. We can only hope that what we leave behind inspires respect and admiration.

!!! That’s interesting ! Because at this point of the OT, Garrus appears to be very much a “vanilla” turian in terms of opinions (reflecting his relative inexperience) if not in term of attitude and behavior. So : is this the opinion prevalent in the Turian Hierarchy ? Yes ? Probably ?

What’s interesting is that this is very much an echo of the turian attitude towards individual turians themselves : everyone is expected to be a hero and ready to sacrifice everything if need be - to die for the cause. In a sense, the turian attitude toward their own society would be the same : all polities are doomed to die, all empires fall - but their actions and works will outlast them, and their worth will be measured by what they’ve done.

(It’s also not a sentiment I’d imagine from other species, with perhaps the exception of the asari, though I’m not convinced. Among people IRL, the very idea that one day your society will disappear and that, should your species endure, they will believe in things and do things and experience life in ways completely alien to what you believe essential, is not something I’ve ever heard.)

Garrus & Ashley

6.

Ashley : Saren was one of the most respected turians in the galaxy, Garrus. Are you going to be okay going up against him ?

Garrus : Saren is either a traitor or a madman. Taking him down will restore the good name of turians everywhere.

Ashley : Just keep saying that. Especially to humans. We’ve got a lot of angry people right now.

7.

Garrus : I’d love to see what the Normandy can do in a fight.

Ashley : The Normandy isn’t built for a stand-up fight. I’d rather rely on the IES than the shields.

Garrus : But the stealth drive adds a new tactical level to space combat as we know it. Surprise attacks, undetected flanking maneuvers…

Ashley : I don’t know, Garrus. I’d rather not be the first one up the ladder in terms of figuring out new tactics.

Both exchanges are identical when Kaidan reacts instead to Garrus’s prompt (Kaidan & Garrus #4 and #5, respectively).

Garrus & Tali

5.

Garrus : I’d love to see what the Normandy can do in a fight.

Tali : How so ? The Normandy is built for stealth, not combat.

Garrus : But the stealth drive adds a new tactical level to space combat as we know it. Surprise attacks, undetected flanking maneuvers…

Tali : If it comes to a fight, I’d prefer a flotilla ship. It’s easier to trust what you’ve worked on yourself.

6.

Garrus : You seem to be attracting unwanted attention, Tali. Several passersby were staring at you.

Tali : Many think less of quarians for traveling in the flotilla, and for creating the geth. They see us as scavengers, little better than thieves.

Garrus : It is natural for people to dislike rootless wanderers. If quarians would just settle another homeworld, you would not run into such concerns.

I had completely forgotten how insulting and racist Garrus is in ME1 toward Tali. Ashley gets so much heat, but this is indisputably worse. #1 is saying the quarians should still feel ashamed over the geth, and #6 here lacks the concern Ashley had in her own exchange and argues that the quarians are to blame for the racism they face since they obviously do not want (“just”) to settle a new planet. 

Note : #6 only makes sense if this comes up before Garrus & Tali #2 - in which case #2 shows the first step in the evolution of their relationship.

Kaidan & Wrex

5.

Wrex : Your biotics are coming along nicely. In the last fight, it looked like you even surprised yourself.

Kaidan : I’ve always held back a little when I used my powers on living targets. Fear of hurting someone I guess. But after what I saw on Eden Prime, I’m not holding back anymore. Not against the geth, not against anyone.

6.

Kaidan : Hearing about the Protheans makes me wonder if some distant civilization is going to find our artifacts someday and study us.

Wrex : Feeling mortal, Alenko ?

Kaidan : I’m not afraid to die. I guess I just want to be remembered by more than a few trinkets in a ruin somewhere.

Ashley & Wrex

I have to say that I’m all for the interpretation that Wrex might be casually flirting with Ashley when he says that fighting with women gives the fight a different… flavour~

4.

Ashley : I haven’t spent much time with any krogan before you, Wrex. I have to say, you’re not what I expected.

Wrex : Right. Because you humans have a wide range of cultures and attitudes, but krogan all think and act exactly alike.

Ashley : Look, I didn’t mean… Just forget I said anything.

Wrex : Done.

Identical exchange with Kaidan instead of Ashley (Kaidan & Wrex #1).

5.

Ashley : It’s strange. The geth are attacking, and everyone around here is still worried about ordinary business.

Wrex : Let them stay ignorant. If our mission reaches the point where these people need to worry about the geth, we’ve already lost.

6.

Wrex : So tell me, who’d win in a fight between you and Shepard ?

Ashley : What ? Commander Shepard is my superior officer. I can’t imagine us ever having to fight.

Wrex : You can’t ? That’s why Shepard’s your superior officer. And that’s why Shepard would win.

Identical exchange with Kaidan instead of Ashley (Kaidan & Wrex #2).

Wrex & Tali

I found no additional dialogue !

Garrus & Wrex

4.

Wrex : So tell me, who’d win in a fight between you and Shepard ?

Garrus : That question smacks of impertinence. Commander Shepard is a Spectre with a distinguished service record.

Wrex : So was Saren. Think about it.

Here is a prime example of “Stick up his arse” Garrus of ME1. As with so many things Garrus says during those elevator conversations, you get the feeling you’re getting the vanilla Hierarchy response.

5.

Garrus : I’d love to see what the Normandy can do in a fight.

Wrex : Only an idiot hopes for combat while flying in a stealth ship.

Garrus : But the stealth drive adds a new tactical level to space combat as we know it. Surprise attacks, undetected flanking maneuvers…

Wrex : This isn’t a strategy simulation. If those new tactics don’t work, we’re salvage.

6.

Wrex : So how about it, Garrus ? Is this better than C-Sec ?

Garrus : Fighting a rogue Spectre with countless lives at stake and no regulations to get in the way ? I’d say that beats C-Sec.

Wrex : There may just be hope for you yet, turian.

Just about the only exchange where Wrex is not insulting (usually with good reason) toward Garrus. Obviously, it’s over the most Garrus-like and the least Hierarchy-approved opinion yet. #4 above is not a compliment, but it’s more caring perhaps, more gentle than expected given other replies.

Kaidan & Liara

5.

Liara : Is it true that your biotic implants cause headaches, Lieutenant ? I know some meditation exercises that might help.

Kaidan : Thanks, Liara. I’d appreciate that. Makes me wonder what it would have been like to have asari tutors instead of turians.

Liara : Given the attitude most young human males display toward my people, it seems turians were the best choice.

It’s a 100% unique variation on the standard Kaidan exchange over the L2′s. Unlike other companions, Liara immediately offers some help which Kaidan welcomes to the point he gives her a compliment… only for Liara to have this very awkward reaction. Is it a way to not sully the good name of turians ??

But we do get the explicit affirmation that asari are wary of “most young human males”, which actually grounds an observation which is accurate at least for ME3 : most background couples you see with an asari and a human are overwhelmingly with a human woman.

6.

Kaidan : So, Liara, you’ve spent fifty years studying Prothean ruins and artifacts?

Liara : Our travels now are somewhat different from my normal excavations. I would prefer lengthier studies… and fewer explosions.

Kaidan : I think you’ve spoken for scientists everywhere, Liara.

OK, @dr-jekyl I found my source for saying that Liara started university around age 50 ! Huzzah ! (Note : Wrex, in his own conversation variant, calls it “your entire adult life” but that doesn’t mean he would necessarily know better.)

Liara & Ashley

3.

Ashley : So, Doctor T’Soni, are all asari biotics ? I heard Lieutenant Alenko say something about you not needing implants.

Liara : While the asari have natural biotics abilities, not all have the desire to learn to use their abilities effectively.

Ashley : Wow - to have so many potential biotics that people can choose not to train… I imagine the lieutenant would be jealous.

4.

Liara : All this violence sometimes catches me by surprise. I imagine that your military training prepared you for it, Chief Williams.

Ashley : Uh, trying to take down a rogue Spectre and his army of synthetics ? No, they didn’t cover this in Basic.

5.

Liara : Is it common for human women to be front-rank fighters, Chief Williams? I know that salarian women do not serve in the military.

Ashley : It’s becoming more common, but it took a long time to prove that “ladies” could handle an assault rifle or a shotgun.

Liara : Such enforced roles are common in dual-sexed societies. I was fortunate not to have to deal with that particular burden.

More ME1 sweetness of “Liara and asari aren’t women”, and also the suggestion that at least one more society beyond humans and salarians has a form of patriarchy/matriarchy.

It’s unclear whether Liara’s assertion about salarian women means that they are legally barred from enlisting or if they are traditionally and socially discouraged from doing so. Given that the very universalist phrasing seems to belie the possibility of outliers, I’d argue the former is likelier.

6.

Ashley : It’s strange. The geth are attacking, and everyone around here is still worried about ordinary business.

Liara : I find it comforting. The pain and joy of ordinary life… that is what we are fighting to protect.

Tali & Liara

5.

Liara : I could not help but notice that you are attracting some unfriendly stares, Tali.

Tali : Many think less of quarians for traveling in the flotilla, and for creating the geth. They see us as scavengers, little better than thieves.

Liara : That is an ignorant opinion. Quarian explorers have uncovered more mass relays than any other race !

Tali : I'm glad that some still remember the contributions my people have made.

THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE EXCHANGE ON THE WHOLE DAMN CITADEL.

OKAY. Okay. We get a ton of information ; most noteworthy of all, we get an actual tidbit of information about pre-geth quarian history, which is basically unheard of, and we get information about the history of the galaxy overall, and Liara is indignant and being a very good friend !

(AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)

6.

Liara : I am curious about the helmet you always wear, Tali. Does it contain technical augmentation systems ?

Tali : No. Living in the clean environment of the flotilla has weakened our immune systems. The environmental suits protect against diseases.

Liara : I suppose that makes it more likely you will return from your Pilgrimage, then. You are only truly safe on your flotilla.

The above is very interesting, as Liara is being empathetic in a very intellectual way (a very Liara way) with Tali, but nonetheless going beyond

The exchanges between Tali and Liara are unique among exchanges with Tali in that they are 100% free of tension or hostility or awkwardness (barely an inch behind is Kaidan, who has the disadvantage of knowing less than Liara about quarians, when #5 shows that Liara knows more about quarians, or at least quarian history, than the average galactic denizen). Surprisingly, given that they have very little interaction altogether over the course of the OT, Liara numbers among the most empathetic companions with Tali, alongside Kaidan and Wrex.

It’s worth keeping in mind, I think, that during ME1, Tali and Liara are the only companions who are civilians.

Liara & Garrus

4.

Garrus : You must welcome civilization after spending such a long time in the Prothean ruins.

Liara : No. Cities and stations were always my mother’s area of comfort. I actually enjoy the solitude of dig sites.

Garrus : After seeing so many asari come through the Citadel, I assumed your people preferred large cities. I apologize.

5.

Garrus : With all this exploration of Prothean culture, this must be like a survey for you, Liara.

Liara : Our travels now are somewhat different from my normal excavations. I would prefer lengthier studies… and fewer explosions.

Garrus : The loss of all this Prothean technology is just one more thing Saren will have to pay for.

6. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2a5aVDRWEU)

Liara : Now that you’ve experienced a Spectre’s life firsthand, Garrus, do you regret leaving your security position ?

Garrus : Fighting a rogue Spectre with countless lives at stake and no regulations to get in the way ? I’d say that beats C-Sec.

Liara : I am unsure how the imminent destruction of all organic life “beats” anything, but your enthusiasm is comforting nonetheless.

I entirely concur with @servantofclio‘s judgement in their own post : Garrus is uniquely respectful, even deferential, toward Liara (and apologizing unprompted both in #2 and #4). Here I’m pretty sure it’s standard Citadel privilege and racism (and Garrus’s relative inexperience, and probably Hierarchy standards of politeness), because Garrus in those exchanges is polite with a companion proportionately to the ���standing” of that companion’s species : respectful (hell, even eager to please in #2) with the asari ; relaxed with the humans (albeit occasionally patronizing) ; insulting and dismissive with the quarians and the krogan.

Liara & Wrex

3.

Liara : You are unlike the other krogan I have met, Wrex. You do not share the bloodlust of your people.

Wrex : When you’re young, you go looking for every fight you can. You get older, you realize that the best fights find you.

That exchange is about 85% identical to the one Wrex has with Tali on the same subject (“You are not like other krogan.”), and more importantly, Wrex’s response is not bitterly mocking and insulted as the (same) response he gives to the same observation from Kaidan or Ashley (and he absolutely destroys Garrus). Why ? I think that the answer isn’t the same for Liara and Tali : in Tali’s exchange (Wrex & Tali #3), Tali, like Ashley and Kaidan, admits that she has never met krogan before, but unlike them she is self-aware enough to understand that what she thought was true was a stereotype, hence why the first thing she tells Wrex is a preemptive apology (“forgive the impertinence”). Liara meanwhile has met other krogan, making her observation a factual one.

I think those are pretty good examples of Wrex’s nuances, and especially how he values those who keep a sense of perspective and don’t let themselves get blinded by their own prejudices (see Wrex & Tali #1, but also how readily he moves on from Kaidan/Ashley offending him once they acknowledge they were wrong).

4.

Wrex : So tell me, who’d win in a fight between you and Shepard ?

Liara : Do krogan size up everyone for a fight, even friends and allies ?

Wrex : Yes.

Exchange identical to Wrex & Tali #4.

5.

Wrex : Your biotics are pretty powerful. Are all asari that strong ?

Liara : While the asari have natural biotics abilities, not all have the desire to learn to use their abilities effectively.

Wrex : All that power, and some asari don’t use it ? You could’ve conquered the galaxy if you wanted to.

Liara : Evidently, we do not want to.

Uniquely, this variation of the exchange with Liara over asari biotics prompts a reply from Liara after the other companion’s reaction (here, Wrex’s). It’s something fandom tends to forget and not focus about gee, why but the asari are the single most powerful society of the OT, and they’re all the more impressive for not wanting what the humans, turians, krogan and probably salarians would immediately do in their position.

6.

Wrex : Being in the city must feel good after digging through rocks at that Prothean ruin.

Liara : No. Cities and stations were always my mother’s area of comfort. I actually enjoy the solitude of dig sites.

Wrex : I’m surprised. I’ve never met an asari who didn’t prefer clean clothes and a hot bath.

New Aleena lore drop, I guess ? Possibly new Aria lore. Your mileage may vary.

Also, this certainly counts as a lore drop on the way asari like to clean themselves (hot baths !).

Indexing

Basically, the elevator dialogues follow a format where each companion has a set of specific reactions conveying one central piece of information, either prompted by the other companion or to which the other companion reacts. Sometimes depending on companions, you can have a little extra reaction. Each of the six ME1 companion has their own three sets of possible interactions with the other five companions*, for a total of six** possible interactions for each pair of characters.

* : Mostly.

** : There are exceptions.

The exceptions are Kaidan & Ashley #0 and #1, which appear to be obligate interactions before and after the first interview with the Council. Kaidan & Ashley #2 has no equivalent but is probably tangentially related at least to what I call Ashley-C.

Garrus & Ashley #5 and Kaidan & Ashley #2 are both unique and do not fit either into the indexing scheme outlined above and detailed below ; while the former is clearly dictated by the situation in ME1 (Garrus has already been recruited, but Saren hasn’t been exposed yet), the latter could presumably be spoken at any time. This suggests that there might be more bits out there

I’ll assign those core, unchanging bits of dialogue letter tags (A, B, C) at random, mostly to keep track of who’s speaking what.

KAIDAN

Kaidan-A : Kaidan and his L2 implants (headaches) => Kaidan & Ashley #3, Kaidan & Tali #4, Kaidan & Garrus #2, Kaidan & Wrex #4, Kaidan & Liara #5. Interestingly, there is a unique variation with Liara, but the interaction with Ashley is so distinct from the others the only thing it has in common with it is the topic and the word “headaches”. Probably because Ashley, as a human, can’t possibly be discovering what L2 implants are.

Kaidan-B : Kaidan’s biotics are getting stronger (no longer holding back) => Kaidan & Ashley #4, Kaidan & Tali #5, Kaidan & Garrus #3, Kaidan & Wrex #5, Kaidan & Liara #2. A very bland exchange, with every companion basically saying the same thing and Kaidan literally replying the same thing.

Kaidan-C : The Protheans make Kaidan wonder whether humanity will end up disappearing as well (what will I leave behind) => Kaidan & Ashley #5, Kaidan & Tali #6, Kaidan & Garrus #6, Kaidan & Wrex #6, Kaidan & Liara #1. That interaction with Ashley prompts a unique response from Kaidan. Meanwhile, Garrus’s reply prompts no answer from Kaidan, uniquely - maybe because what Garrus says is already very much in line with what Kaidan is thinking.

ASHLEY

Ashley-A : Ashley doesn’t understand why no one seems worried by the geth. => Kaidan & Ashley #7, Ashley & Tali #2, Garrus & Ashley #2, Ashley & Wrex #5, Liara & Ashley #6. Uniquely, Kaidan’s reply is the only one that prompts a response from Ashley.

Ashley-B : Ashley doesn’t think her training prepared her for the ME1 situation => Kaidan & Ashley #6, Ashley & Tali #4, Garrus & Ashley #3, Ashley & Wrex #2, Liara & Ashley #4. As with Kaidan-B, a somewhat bland exchange - with one major exception : Kaidan & Ashley #6 has uniquely phrased dialogue and while Ashley’s answer is substantially the same, she appears far more vulnerable there. However, I’d argue that what’s interesting is what each of the other five companions reveals about their own perspective and what they value, usually in a pretty succinct but meaningful way : Kaidan is basically “Fake It And You Will Make It” ; Garrus is basically curious about how military training might differ between humans and turians ; Tali is not used at all to fighting and assumes a career soldier like Ashley must be more at ease ; Wrex is dryly joking around ; and Liara, the other civilian aboard Normandy, echoes Tali’s perspective.

Ashley-C : Ashley explains how human women had to fight to get into the military. => n/a for Kaidan & Ashley, Ashley & Tali #1, Garrus & Ashley #4, Ashley & Wrex #1, Liara & Ashley #5. Tali’s reply uniquely prompts a (somewhat awkward) answer from Ashley. Naturally, given the topic, that is not a subject Kaidan could inquire about ; hence why Kaidan & Ashley #2 stands out as a unique exchange, as it “fills up” the missing exchange slot. As it implies (?) that Kaidan is attracted to asari - a slightly recurrent theme throughout ME1 - it is broadly in line with the male/female human divide that is the theme of Ashley-C.

TALI

Tali-A : How do quarians feel about creating the geth ? (the quarians have paid enough) => Kaidan & Tali #1, Ashley & Tali #5, Garrus & Tali #1, Wrex & Tali #2, Tali & Liara #3. The exchanges with Kaidan and Ashley are identical. The exchange with Liara uses the same stock response Tali uses with Kaidan and Ashley, but interestingly, the two exchanges with Garrus and Wrex are both unique, and have Tali focus on the genophage instead.

Tali-B : People are being hostile with Tali because she’s a quarian (anti-quarian prejudice). => Kaidan & Tali #3, Ashley & Tali #3, Garrus & Tali #6, Wrex & Tali #1, Tali & Liara #5. Interestingly, the exchanges with Kaidan and Ashley start identically, but diverge completely in their replies to Tali’s answer. With Wrex and Tali, the exchanges remain pretty generic, but Garrus’s reply is the least empathetic of the five, while Wrex’s is the most empathetic. Tied with Wrex, however, we have Liara’s, who is outraged - it’s the only exchange to prompt a second line of dialogue from Tali, and it reveals some new lore on quarian and galactic history.

Tali-C : Why do you wear a helmet, Tali ? (quarian immune systems) => Kaidan & Tali #2, Ashley & Tali #6, Garrus & Tali #2, Wrex & Tali #6, Tali & Liara #6. Contrary to the previous two sets of exchanges, the conversations with Kaidan and Ashley are as distinct as any other companion’s elevator dialogue. As previously mentioned, Garrus’s only makes sense if it occurs after his version of Tali-B, Garrus & Tali #6.

GARRUS

Garrus-A : Garrus doesn’t regret leaving C-Sec. => Kaidan & Garrus #1, Garrus & Ashley #1, Garrus & Tali #3, Garrus & Wrex #6, Liara & Garrus #6. Nothing noteworthy here : all characters react to Garrus, informing the player of their own priorities (which may be why it’s the only exchange about Garrus where Kaidan and Ashley don’t say the same thing).

Garrus-B : Garrus is eager to take down Saren (restore the good name of turians). => Kaidan & Garrus #4, Garrus & Ashley #6, Garrus & Tali #4, Garrus & Wrex #2, Liara & Garrus #1. As previously stated, the conversations with Kaidan or Ashley are identical. Liara’s reply has a unique twist - she didn’t presume Garrus might have qualms over hunting Saren because Saren is a fellow turian but because Garrus respects/adores Spectres.

Garrus-C : Garrus would love to see what the Normandy could do in a fight (potential of stealth ships in warfare). => Kaidan & Garrus #5, Garrus & Ashley #7, Garrus & Tali #5, Garrus & Wrex #5, Liara & Garrus #3. The exchanges with Kaidan and Ashley are identical. Uniquely, Garrus-C is the only exchange with four lines of dialogues for all five possible participants.

WREX

Wrex-A : Wrex’s companions think he is unlike other krogan. => Kaidan & Wrex #1, Ashley & Wrex #4, Wrex & Tali #3, Garrus & Wrex #1, Liara & Wrex #3. As previously mentioned, Ashley and Kaidan’s versions of that exchange are identical (they’re 4-line-long, whereas the others are 2-line-long), and Wrex replies in the same way to both Tali and Liara. His answer to Garrus is uniquely aggressive.

Wrex-B : Wrex wants to know who’d win in a fight against Shepard. => Kaidan & Wrex #2, Ashley & Wrex #6, Wrex & Tali #4, Wrex & Garrus #4, Liara & Wrex #4. Likewise, Kaidan and Ashley’s versions of that exchange are strictly identical, but this time Liara’s and Tali’s also form an identical pair. Garrus’s, while very close in substance to Ashley/Kaidan’s, is unique.

Wrex-C : Wrex doesn’t mind fighting other krogan (favor to the universe). => Kaidan & Wrex #3, Ashley & Wrex #3, Wrex & Tali #5, Wrex & Garrus #3, Liara & Wrex #1. Man, even here Ashley and Kaidan’s versions are identical. Tali and Liara say the same thing in a different way and get the same reply as with everyone else. Again, Garrus is set apart : while Wrex gives the same reply, it is preceded by a unique introduction : “You don’t get it. For all your talk of honor and pride, the turians never had to test their principles in a real struggle.” The logical connection to the rest of the reply is not self-explanatory.

Overall, Wrex gets the least diverse quotes in his own set, but is more likely to say something different than Garrus or Liara, who will always give their stock responses. Tali can give truly unique answers, but she will say the same things more often than Wrex.

LIARA

Liara-A : Liara explains asari biotics to her companions (desire to learn). => Kaidan & Liara #3, Liara & Ashley #3, Tali & Liara #1, Liara & Garrus #2, Liara & Wrex #5. Here, there is no instance of repeated dialogue beside Liara’s stock response, which is unchanged for all five companions. However, unlike everyone else, Wrex prompts a second reply from Liara in a fourth line of dialogue (“Evidently we do not want to.”).

Liara-B : Liara does not like cities and stations (prefers the solitude of dig sites). => Kaidan & Liara #4, Liara & Ashley #2, Tali & Liara #2, Liara & Garrus #4, Liara & Wrex #6. Kaidan and Ashley share the same initial prompt but differ in their final reactions. Likewise, Tali and Garrus share prompts but have different final reactions. Wrex is the only one to get his own prompt and reaction.

Liara-C : Liara’s usual studies of the Protheans (less explosions please). => Kaidan & Liara #6, Liara & Ashley #1, Tali & Liara #4, Liara & Garrus #5, Liara & Wrex #2. Kaidan and Ashley’s parts of their dialogues are 100% identical. Tali and Garrus share prompts but have different final reactions. Again, Wrex stands out for his unique variations throughout.

Thank you so much for all this, @servantofclio ! I’d love to hear what you have to say on the few clippings I found like you did on all of those you compiled !

Mass Effect 1 Elevator Dialogues

All right, here it is!

First, some disclaimers:

I believe these transcripts to be accurate, but some errors may have crept in.

I do not believe these transcripts to be complete. You can see for yourselves that some pairs of characters have more dialogues than others; I’m fairly sure some exchanges are missing, in spite of my attempts to find them on youtube.

If you know of exchanges that I have missed, I would be happy to know about transcripts or video of them so I can add them to this post. I am not, however, in a position to play the game endlessly to get particular exchanges to fire.

I could not resist adding brief commentary, which represents only my own opinions.

You will notice that there is some repeated dialogue – some characters’ lines can occur in combination with several other characters. I would guess this is partly an economy on Bioware’s part, and partly to increase the probability that certain information comes across.

Thank you to @hoarous, @syzara, and @thelastunicorg for helping point me toward relevant video. Also for @jadesabre301 and @omegastation, who expressed interest in seeing transcripts.

The following post is long, about 3600 words, and is after the cut, with exchanges sorted by pair of characters. The numbers are just for reference; I don’t think the dialogue necessarily triggers in that order.

Keep reading

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Every Plot Hole in Archie Sonic not by Flynn or Penders up to issue 65

Plot hole just being used as a general term to mean any time the writing is forced.

Bolded ones are ones I’m frustrated with and when it’s italicized, it means that it makes the whole story or a chunk of it very forced.

1: Sonic Miniseries Issue 0 “Don’t Cry for Me, Mobius!” by Mike Gallagher: Sonic stops in front of a Caterkiller and talks with his back turned to it instead of immediately destroying it.

2: WHY did Eggman just stay there and have his Buzzbomber do a countdown instead of trying to attack Sonic with the ball and chain right AWAY?! Sonic was just STANDING STILL in front of him instead of just doing a Spin Attack! Why didn’t he just Spin Attack or spindash his Eggmobile instead of thinking he NEEDED to rely on a Ring?! Sure was lucky for Sonic that Eggman waited for a countdown to hurt him to be dramatic!

3: Sonic reveals that he can use Rings to grant wishes, and says that when he jumps through it, Robotnik’s Eggmobile will hit itself with its own wrecking ball. Rings granting wishes, and rising and falling in the well, isn’t necessarily a plot hole because they’re MAGICAL. But the real problem is, and this is a plot hole in EVERY single issue; if Rings can grant any wish you want, why wasn’t every major villain wished away by them and with that all of the damage they caused? This Rings-grant-wishes thing is one of the worst concepts in the comic because, while it isn’t necessarily forced on its own as Rings are magical after all, what IS forced is the idea that none of them were used to defeat evil permanently, then, making the whole comic forced. So it becomes the first of one of those plot holes you have to ignore for the sake of the comic as a whole, along with Robotnik not finding Knothole or simply destroying the Great Forest at midnight if he can’t find it.

4: Sally is probably the one person among her friends who sort of cares about Antoine, but she doesn’t tell her friends not to bury him up to the head in the dirt. Why would Rotor, Tails and Sally be such bullies to Antoine? Why would Antoine let himself get buried in the dirt, how long did that take? I CAN UNDERSTAND Sonic bullying Antoine, but not Sally and the others, they’re nice people. 4.

5: “Oh No–Robo! No Mo’ Mobo!”: Someone orders 200 chili dogs. How do they have enough ingredients to make 200 chili dogs?

6: How was Sonic not spilling the 200 chili dogs when he was running with the wheelbarrow in front of him? They should’ve toppled onto the ground or Sonic should’ve crashed into something from them blocking his vision.

7: Robotnik’s love of pollution is stupid. It works on a meta level, nature vs technology, but you’d think a genius would know better than to poison his own oxygen supply.

8: Why isn’t Sonic surprised to see a clearly metallic robot chicken as his customer and hating him? Shouldn’t he react to this?

9: Sonic meets Princess Sally and somehow doesn’t recognize a world-famous royal figure. The princess of the kingdom he grew up in.

10: Not only does he not recognize her, but he accuses her of telling fairy-tales, like he thinks she’s lying. 6 forced concepts for Sonic Miniseries Issue 0.

11: Sonic Miniseries Issue 1 “Run, Sally, Run!” by Mike Gallagher: Sally is having a bitch moment by not telling her friends what her plan against Robotnik is. Instead, she just tells Sonic and Tails to leave her alone and storms off. Sally should’ve known better than to not tell all of her friends that she was planning against Robotnik to get a cure for the roboticization cure. Besides, it was still a risky plan, her shoes’ wiring could’ve malfunctioned or fell off to not get a cure. Is she so used to people blindly obeying her orders as princess to not go to save their friend? I guess so!1.

12: “Something Fishy”: Why did the ROBOT fish not kill Sonic right away instead of wasting time waiting for him to drown?

13: Why didn’t Sonic immediately spindash out of the net instead of waiting for so long?

14: Why was Sonic able to talk underwater?

15: Good thing Sonic had told Rotor and Tails to go meet him at the dock ahead of time FOR NO REASON because otherwise, they wouldn’t have gone to the dock and decided to save him.

16: Why did Sonic even jump into polluted water in the first place? 5 for Sonic Miniseries Issue 1.

17: Sonic Miniseries Issue 2 “A Crowning Achievement” by Mike Gallagher: If Sally had the Freedom Emeralds crown all along, one, why didn’t she wear it earlier to use it against Robotnik,

18: And two, if that crown’s so great, why did her father get put in the Zone of Silence by Robotnik?

19: Antoine being in charge of a group of soldiers as if he’s that great. What has he done to earn leadership?

20: Sonic comes to the paranoid conclusion that rather than one of the guards being incompetent or traitorous, he just assumes that one of the guardsmen was a robot that looks organic.

21: Sonic creates fire by running, with shoes that are specifically designed not to make that happen.

22: And why does the robot Hamlin change into being purple?

23: Sally arbitrarily makes Antoine go with Sonic to recover the Freedom Emeralds as if he’s going to be useful at all. He is, but how’d she think that?

24: Sonic should’ve just spindashed into the robot fish.

25: How did the robot fish not notice them running away in a blue and yellow blur to run into the wall?

26: Why did they even have a waterproof marker with them to make that picture?

27: Why would Sonic and Tails go fishing when they’re nature lovers and wouldn’t wanna mistreat fish like that? 11 contrivances for Sonic Miniseries Issue 2.

28: Sonic Miniseries Issue 3 “Sonic Flashback!” by Mike Gallagher: Uncle Chuck in the what-if scenario wants Robotnik and Sonic to be good friends, but he’s somehow oblivious to Robotnik’s true nature despite being a genius. That’s why he has him over at his house at times. Every time we see Robotnik in the past and people don’t know he’s evil, it’s always forced when we see him with black and red eyes, because at the very least, everyone would’ve been creeped out and distrustful of someone who intentionally makes their eyes look menacing. But this problem started out here. Granted, it’s a dream what-if scenario, but it doesn’t make Uncle Chuck siding with Robotnik and not believing Sonic about his evilness ANY LESS FRUSTRATING.

29: Why would Robotnik’s robot apologize for Robotnik causing Chuck to crash into something? Why would he make his robot inclined to do that? That’s what gets Eggman in trouble?!

30: Why does Chuck the GENIUS simply tell Robotnik to go to his room instead of calling the cops for not caring that he got him hurt stealing the brakes on his tractor? 3.

31: “Why Ask Spy?”: Why would Sally and Rotor make Sonic think Rotor’s been roboticized as a PRANK?!

32: Sally and Sonic make Tails think Sonic was roboticized and running after Sally. This would be pretty traumatizing for Tails! And they just do that as a prank! They should just tell Tails to stay inside the base to make sure he wouldn’t mention the secret that Sonic’s in a disguise outside the base.

33: Tails recovers from the sight of Sonic “ roboticized “ really easily just because Sally appealed to his ego calling him a hero. And then he starts advertising stories about himself saving Sally instead of being upset about what he thinks happened to Sonic. It makes him look like a selfish arrogant asshole who doesn’t care about Sonic that much at all.

34: Tails looks like an idiot for not getting suspicious when Sonic lies that he’s not programmed to deal with TWO live creatures and runs away.

35: Sonic lies that he fell into a robot-maker “ disguised as a robot-maker. “ This is such a blatant lie that it makes everyone involved look like an idiot.

36: Sally shows no concern at all for Antoine getting a bear trap hurting his foot. She smiles at that!

37: Why didn’t Chuck attack Sonic in his roboticized state with no free will? And yet Muttski does. 7.

38: Issue 1 “Meet Me at the Corner of Hedgehog & Vine!” by Gallagher: Robotnik’s over-the-top hatred of plants is never explained. Maybe he went on a really bad hiking trip and got poison ivy poisoning, but we don’t know. And how is it that he’s the boss and yet the Krudzu is news to him? Does he have robots that are allowed to make his evil inventions for him? It’s more creative, but it’s surprising, I’d expect Robotnik to make that robot plant, HE’S the GENIUS. Why would he trust others to do this?

39: How can Robotnik beat up a Swatbot so effortlessly, knocking it into the metal floor? He doesn’t have super strength, does he? If he has super strength, he should’ve used it against Sonic and thrown stuff at him.

40: How does Antoine not hear his friends loudly calling his name and go outside to start the plot instead?

41: Rotor looks serious and worried as he says that he thought Antoine was tying himself up in vines to make a radical fashion statement, when his friends had to carry him inside because his arms were tied up. That just makes him look like an idiot for the sake of a joke.

42: Why would Antoine admit to his friends that he feels dizzy and WEAK and confused, instead of trying to avoid looking weak when he already has a coward reputation.

43: Why is Tails excited about someone bringing in a bucket of cuttings of plants?

44: Robotnik is scared by himself because sometimes he’s so evil he even scares himself.

45: How did the Krudzu still talk and insult them even after being short-circuited with water? 8.

46: “You Bet My Life!”: Tails says, “ Why should I call him Tails? “ in response to Antoine saying, “ Call him, Tails! “ He heard the conversation before this where his friends wanted Sonic. Tails isn’t supposed to be THAT stupid. No one could be.

47: Why would the Swatbot let Sonic in, instead of Sonic just spindashing right through it? Why does the Swatbot even think the main hero of the world would pay him anything? Why would he ask for a bribe? How did he forget who he was?

48: Why DID the heroes tell Sonic to go to Casino Night when Robotnik was making his big speech? Sonic didn’t have rope, and it wasn’t an assassination mission.

49: Sonic shouldn’t be able to get motion sickness, so he shouldn’t have motion sickness from being thrown around in a pinball.

50: The only reason “ someone winning 50 cents at the casino “ happened was to let Sonic get a chance to escape. Eggman’s casinos wouldn’t be programmed to give out money.

51: Second, why would anyone go to a casino by Robotnik if he punishes anyone who wins at it ONCE? Who would even go to the casino, Robians? Swatbots? 6.

52: Issue 2 “Triple Trouble!” by Mike Gallagher: If the Crabmeat robot has done nothing but fail Robotnik, OFFSCREEN, why wasn’t he scrapped the first time? If he’s talking about Crabmeats in general, he should’ve scrapped ALL of them.

53: Robotnik takes being called “ fat “ in various ways by his robots as not an insult but an honorable title, when those titles are too silly (“ your blubberness. “ Which is always stupid.

54: Why the hell did Robotnik program Scratch and Grounder to be able to argue with and turn against each other? Their constant bickering led to their undoing. 3.

55: “Vertigo A´ Go-Go!”: How do Al and Cal get enough to eat or drink or go to the bathroom in a dimension that’s just weird colors with no objects? How are they alive, who were their parents? They shouldn’t logically exist in an uninhabitable world.

56: Why does Sonic try to ask Al and Cal to join the Freedom Fighters? He says they could really use them, but why? Al and Cal did nothing but mess with him! They’re dicks who don’t bother to explain their uninhabitable dimension. 2.

57: “Foiled Again!”: Sally and Rotor dickishly slap Sonic with foil surprising him to get an image of his face on a page for comic books, when they could’ve just asked to put it against his face. It’s uncharacteristic of them.

58: The worst part is, Rotor plans to do it over 70,000 more times. He should know Sonic wouldn’t let him. 2.

59: “Two-Timer!”: There was a wall that was damaged by a Burrobot invasion. Wouldn’t that Burrobot have found Knothole and INSTANTLY reported the location of it to Robotnik? 1.

60: Issue 3 “The Bomb Bugs Me!” by Mike Gallagher: Why are Rotor and Sally worried because Sonic’s coming to their base at incredible speed?

61: How did Robotnik already have tons of Rotor costumes for himself?

62: How did Rotor have tons of Robotnik costumes and think it was necessary?

63: How did Robotnik and Rotor have so many different disguises and wear them all at once without passing out from heat exhaustion

64: or looking significantly bigger from more mass on them? 5.

65: “Rabbot Deployment!”: It’s weird that Sally says Sonic’s “never “ obedient.

66: Sonic and Rotor just sat there behind the bushes and watched Bunnie get put in the roboticizer. It’s OOC for Sonic to sit there and wait, when he could easily spindash through all the Swatbots right away.

67: Why does Sonic think Bunnie’s hurt when she shows no sign of injury?

68: It’s confusing how overly chipper Bunnie is at being turned into a cyborg after waking up. In a world where being roboticized is seen as the worst possible thing, Bunnie shouldn’t be immediately happy and eager to become a Freedom Fighter.

69: If Bunnie always admired Sally, she should’ve recognized her on sight.

70: Sonic should’ve created the tornado AROUND the giant Burrobot, not beside it. Instead he was an idiot forcing it to shoot him so Bunnie would flip it. Why make Sonic look like an idiot to make Bunnie look good?

71: How did Bunnie know Sally had a crush on Sonic IMMEDIATELY? She just met her seconds ago and didn’t see Sally say two words to Sonic. 7.

72: Issue 4 “The Lizard of Odd!” by Mike Gallagher: Why did the robots use the extra-large container for the small animal?

73: Why would the Salamander’s growth break it free of Robotnik’s control?

74: And why would it be evil if it’s no longer under his control?

75: Tails sees Sonic spindash into the dinosaur’s mouth and assumes he’s just watching a movie. 5.

76: “Badniks Bazaar”: Why would robots audition for a villain-against-Sonic role? Wouldn’t Eggman just have them made and send them against Sonic? Why the extra step? And this is the entire foundation of the story. 1.

77: “Hare Styling”: Bunnie gives Sally frizzy hair with electricity and she LIKES it. Both do, Bunnie thinks she did a good job! 1.

78: “Tails’ Little Tale”: Tails tries to take down Robotnik by himself without any rope or duct tape to restrain him and no inclination to murder him, so what does he even hope to accomplish? He’s just running up to the base with no plan?

79: How did Tails mistake a shadow of Eggman painted on the wall for the real deal and run into it? THAT’S why he needed saving so fast. 2.

80: Issue 5 “Olympic Trials and Errors” by Angelo: Why are the Freedom Fighters competing in the Olympics when they know it’s a trap? 1.

81: “Chomp on This, Chump!”: Why would Rotor ever think it’s safe to open a can with a skull and crossbones and it says “ danger do not open? “ He has an Idiot Ball moment

82: and so does Robotnik for making that can look that way.

83: Since Robotnik only gets hate mail delivered to him, and he’s an evil dictator, who rules over only mindless robots, who couldn’t choose to send him anything, he should’ve just been suspicious of getting Rotor’s package and never opened it at all. 3.

84: Issue 6 “The Spin Doctor” by Mike Gallagher: Sonic bounces off the lava like Mario in Mario 64. They shouldn’t have even written him falling into it then, and we aren’t told he had rings. Also, he can apparently run over lava as well. 1.

85: “Sonic’s Christmas Carol!” by Angelo: The story’s all a dream by Sonic. But its writing is contrived regardless. If Robotnik was regularly pulling stunts like driving a vehicle into a Christmas tree in his first Christmas with Chuck and Sonic, then, why did it take that long for everyone to decide to arrest him?

86: Why was Robotnik able to send a bomb to Knothole’s base as a Christmas present when he didn’t know where the base even was, let alone where Knothole was, and if he did he would’ve destroyed it? But the story’s all a dream anyways, so that’s why.

87: Robotnik briefly considers giving up his evil ways because the future looks terrible to HIM, someone who loves pollution. That would never happen. Even in a DREAM. Sonic would never have that amount of faith in him.

88: Why did it take decades for the delivered bomb to reach Robotnik in the future and end the dream?

89: And how can the story be SONIC’S dream when it was all from ROBOTNIK’S perspective? 5.

90: Issue 7 “Uncle Chuck’s Treasure!” by Angelo: How was a map leading to Sonic’s bronzed baby shoes, hidden in the ceiling of the Knothole base? Uncle Chuck was roboticized before he could’ve possibly known about this base. So why was this map there? There was no reason the map should’ve been hidden there in particular.

91: Rotor mistakes a treasure map for “ connect the dots, “ making him look as dumb as Big the Cat just for the sake of a joke.

92: I’m supposed to believe briefly that since Robotnik took over the planet, money has no value. This is blatantly contradicted by every other issue, even issues before it like Sonic saying about making comic books that there’s gotta be a better way to earn a living. But the money has no value thing is used as an excuse for why Rotor, Sally and Tails don’t see the value in finding the treasure of a treasure map. And this wasn’t even necessary for the plot at all because Sonic convinces them to go look for it.

93: How hasn’t Robotnik taken down all of the trees of Mobius Natural Park? The trees leading UP TO that place shouldn’t still be standing.

94: The big problem with Robotnik hating nature for so long is that, why wasn’t all of the forests destroyed? All of the world’s trees should’ve been destroyed by now including the Great Forest’s trees and killed the world.

95: Sally is the only Freedom Fighter who feels tired from the pollution of the national park and needs to lie down, and even then, she seems to recover from it enough to run away from it really fast.

96: Sonic is somehow able to imitate Robotnik’s voice well enough to convince the Swatbots to put Rotor down and walk into a tar pit. You know, there was no reason for this to even happen because Sonic should’ve just destroyed the Swatbots with his spindash. It’s not like Sonic has a Chaos Emerald to justify him magically getting a perfect imitation of Robotnik’s voice? Also, Rotor was the one with the Robotnik imitation skill, which he showed in the issue where he was disguising himself as Robotnik. So Rotor should’ve done the voice imitation.

97: Why did Uncle Chuck hide Sonic’s bronzed baby shoes in a TREASURE CHEST buried in the national park?! Instead of putting the shoes in his actual house if he cares about it?! 8.

98: “The Shadow Nose!”: With no explanation for how, Sonic can box his shadow and make his shadow lie on the floor knocked out. 1.

99: “Sorceress in Distress”: Why would Antoine ever dress up like a devil for Halloween when he wants to look heroic?

100: Sally insists arbitrarily on leaving the base ALONE to find a stick for her staff. She’s acting totally irrationally to be independent, when that’s in contradiction with her cautious nature. She ignores Antoine’s warning that Swatbots will find her.

101: Instead of recognizing Sally and planning to roboticize her, Robotnik creepily falls in love with Sally in her witch costume when she’s one a kid and two a Mobian and three not even in a costume that covers up her face. I guess he didn’t recognize Sally because he thinks all squirrel Mobians look alike.

102: Robotnik somehow thinks she’d want Venus fly traps

103: which he already had on hand in a bouquet

104: and motor oil chocolates as gifts.

105: Eating motor oil chocolates doesn’t kill him

106: and he likes them somehow.

107: If he says yuck at the idea of a love poem, he wouldn’t make one.

108: Sonic turns invisible. Without a Chaos Emerald, but with his speed alone. He barely ever goes invisible, so it’s just a Deus ex MACHINA. If he can do that, why didn’t he take down Robotnik a long time ago? Sneak into his base, destroy everything with invisibility and tie him up? Same goes for Espio! Sonic didn’t even need to do that when he could’ve just saved Sally at super speed just fine.

109: Sally’s an ungrateful bitch and hits him in the head leaving him dazed, for saving her without permission. She should’ve known she needed his help and been nicer. Also, how the fuck did Sally know the invisible Sonic was Sonic? Well, okay, I guess he went invisible around her before. But that’s never explained. 11.

110: Issue 8 “Bot’s All Folks!” by Mike Gallagher: Where did Crabmeat even GET a Sonic comic book?

111: And why did the Crabmeat want to get Sonic comics?

112: One of Robotnik’s rules is “ no reading “ period, even though robots should sometimes need to read to follow orders. And they would need to read to read that rule. And he didn’t specify “ no reading fiction, “ and he should really specify for robots.

113: Somehow the robots thought Robotnik wanted a Steve Urkel robot and not a Wolverine robot. 4.

114: “A Little Sonic Goes a Long Way” by Gallagher: It doesn’t make any sense that it would be a long time since Tails heard a guitar just because music was banned because the heroes live in a hidden village that can get access to all the paper it wants, for example, so there’s no reason the people of Knothole wouldn’t have made their own musical instruments, when they’re clearly cutting down trees to get paper already.

115: Robotnik banning music is confusing, no matter how spiteful he is, because I’m pretty sure he’d at least allow music that glorifies himself. Hating all music is psychologically impossible, our brains are programmed to love it. What, did he have a really harsh music teacher growing up? Did he suck at playing music, did his parents play the radio or CDs way too loud in the car?

116: Robotnik heard ONE note, from all the way in Robotropolis when Sonic was playing the guitar on a hill.

117: Why would Snively even think Robotnik was singing when he should remember Robotnik hates music?

118: WHY didn’t Robotnik destroy the concert hall if he banned music?

119: Why would the shrinking effect on the heroes be temporary?

120: Why would Snively sing and play music in front of Robotnik right after he JUST SAID he banned music? Wouldn’t he know that would be risky? That was just there for a really stupid joke.

121: Also, why didn’t Robotnik actually punish Snively for that? 8.

122: Issue 9 “Tooth or Consequences!” by Gallagher: There’s no way Robotnik would think any robot was too cruel for him, even a dentist robot. 1.

123: Issue 9 “What’s the Point?” by Angelo: Why did any of the Freedom Fighters not realize that there was a tracking device collar on one of their “ pets? “ At least Sally’s rejecting the turkey makes sense since maybe the tracking device was inside of it.

124: Why didn’t Tails realize the beaver was a robot since it clearly had robot black and white eyes?

125: Why was a turkey in the tree anyways, or running wild at all?

126: The turkey who was just established to have an injured wing now starts flying to save the day. This is very contrived writing, and it’s not established that turkeys can magically heal way faster than normal animals. 4.

127: Issue 10 ” Revenge of the Nerbs ” by Angelo: If Rotor thinks that disconnecting the wrong electrical cable could trigger a landmine on him, that was uncharacteristically stupid of him to disconnect it himself. He should’ve done what bomb defusers do and send in a robot or some kind of automatic machine with scissors. Then the machine would’ve been captured by the force field instead, but then THAT thing would’ve been captured by the Nerbs and we wouldn’t have a story.

128: Another reason we shouldn’t have had much of a story is that an isolated underground society shouldn’t know the same language as the heroes. So all that obnoxious dialogue by the Nerbs shouldn’t have been able to be exchanged with the heroes at all.

129: Why did Sonic ever want to explore the Mobius SEWERS as a kid? Wouldn’t it smell? And yet that’s how he knows his way around.

130: Also, there’s no way Robotnik only has a bath once a year because there would be dire consequences for him and everyone would comment on it. Maybe he just showers. 4.

131: “Twan With the Wind”: The Freedom Fighter Fact Finder is such an overly convenient device for the villains. Wouldn’t it just find out about all the heroes’ plans and where Knothole is, if it can tell Robotnik that they’re having their annual picnic?

132: Bunnie says to Antoine, “ BAG it, sugah! “ because his hot air balloon was popped again. That’s OOC, and bitchy. 2.

133: Issue 12 “A Timely Arrival!” by Mike Gallagher: Sonic doesn’t hear Robotnik clearly say “ a time machine. “ And Robotnik being able to make a time machine so easily makes no sense. At the very least, I think this was retconned subtly; since the Xorda part of history proves that the Mobians didn’t exist 40,000 years ago, he actually made an interdimensional teleporter and Sonic simply ended up meeting an alternate Sonic instead, explaining how there were cavemen FFs that were all coincidentally identical to his own friends. Like in a parallel zone.

This would explain why Robotnik had an interdimensional teleporter in 44, the time machine proves he could make that kind of device, and Robotnik would never admit that he had actually screwed up and made a device that traveled through space but not time. If he could make a time machine, he should’ve erased the heroes from existence. He didn’t, because it wasn’t. But if he didn’t even try to do that with it right away, which is contrived by itself, I guess that explains how he didn’t figure out it wasn’t really a time machine and instead just a portal maker, and if he did figure it out, he didn’t admit it wasn’t because he’d be admitting he screwed up.

And why didn’t the Freedom Fighters use the time machine to prevent Robotnik from going to power? That was dumb. Maybe, again, it WASN’T a time machine, just a transporter, and Rotor researched the machine to find out how to build his globepost portal to the Special Zone. Also, why would Robotnik waste time, robots and resources on having Swatbots tell the news? All it does is let the heroes find out about his plans easier. Actually maybe it’s to lure the heroes into a trap to be killed? It’s implied that he does this all the time since no one says this channel is new.

134: Why would a hostile pterodactyl know Sonic’s language let alone be able to talk at all,

135: bother to tell him he’s in prehistoric Mobius,

136: and even know it’s prehistoric Mobius when he spent his whole life there and knows nothing about the future? Having the dinosaurs and pterodactyls talk was pointless to the story and was just confusing.

137: How does the dinosaur know that dinosaurs will become extinct?

138: Why would the Crabmeat care that Robotnik broke the rules against being happy when he’s the rule-maker to begin with?

139: It’s so unlikely and illogical that not only would all the Freedom Fighters look similar to their ancestors, but their ancestors would’ve all been living in Knothole base together as friends. That’s too much of a coincidence. So they must be parallel counterparts instead. How’d they all meet and become friends in cavemen times where all the species would presumably be in separate tribes? Did Robotnik separate them from their parents by taking over Caveman Mobotropolis, so they’re Freedom Fighters? The problem is, what kind of so-called “ Freedom Fighters “ would hide in an underground cave from the outside world forever?

140: If they were refusing to leave the cave, how were they staying alive with no going outside to get food or water? What kind of cavemen, especially Freedom Fighters, would stay inside all day? Sonic didn’t need to have to tell these idiots to go outside and plant the Great Forest. 8.

141: “Bold-Headed Eagle” by Angelo: If Robotnik has a “ life forms detecting “ radar that detects lifeforms even in the far-off mountains, how has he not found Knothole already?

142: Sonic fails to understand that hiding is the smartest thing for Cyril the Eagle to do.

143: Why did it take so long for Cyril to find the other eagle Mobians when they were all living on the same mountain the whole time, when they would’ve had to search for food regularly?

144: Cyril was just established to be bad at flying but then he saves Sonic because he somehow got his flying capability back. 4.

145:“The Lynx is a Jinx” by Gallagher: Sonic somehow knows the cycle of bad luck for Larry against the heroes is “ broken “ and turns out to be right as Larry wins tons of chess games against Rotor. That’s still bad luck against the Freedom Fighters, just in a more minor “ Rotor loses “ sense.

146: Seriously how did Larry’s bad luck just now stop seriously affecting the Freedom Fighters? 2.

147: Issue 13 “Space in yo’ Face!” by Angelo: Why was Sonic making a statue of Antoine? He doesn’t respect him.

148: How would a mass roboticizer set your TV set to only tune in to infomercials? I guess I could believe Robotnik could program that extra feature to be spiteful but that’d take extra time and resources, and has nothing to do with anything, and it just feels like it’s forced for the sake of a joke. More importantly, why did the Freedom Fighters even think to exit a spaceship on a moon that they were lucky they even could breathe on, and had no way of knowing it had any air at all? They should’ve left in spacesuits at the very least. Good thing they did leave the spaceship or else they’d be killed when it was kicked by the mecha, and we wouldn’t have a story or a series anymore. 2.

149: Issue 14 “Tails’ Taste of Power!” by Angelo: What’s with this new creepy obsession with Tails of usurping Sonic as the leader? It’s OOC and evil of Tails to want that when he’s stupid at this point. The real Tails, I’d say he should be his leader and would applaud him for having that kind of spine. This Tails has no reason to think he deserves to be the leader.

150: Also, apparently Sonic’s the leader of the Freedom Fighters, not Sally!

151: Tails is supposed to be smart from the Smart Fruit, so why did he do such a boneheaded thing of trying to “ subdue “ Robotnik without any duct tape or rope to restrain him and no plan to kill him? What was he even expecting to accomplish? And we’ll never know because the fruit’s effects wore off and he forgot what his plan was somehow.

152: Yeah, how DID Tails forget his plan? Dumber or not, that wouldn’t give you amnesia. 4.

153: Issue 15 “Rockin’ the ‘Bot!” by Angelo: Sonic’s gonna run into raindrops! How could running fast making him immune to getting wet? He’s not microscopic! There’d be a raindrop at every elevation at any given time.

154: Sonic denies the fact that he’s a magical being to a magic frog. He doesn’t think he’s magical.

155: Sonic doesn’t believe in magic frogs in a fantasy universe.

156: Sonic doesn’t believe the gems are magic even though they literally just appear out of the sky above him and fall on his head. This all really angered me. He’s not THAT STUPID.

157: Why would Sonic think sneezing was one of the powers of the stones?

158: Sally is way too quick to assume Sonic’s abandoning her and her friends to the claw mech!

159: Sonic catches the cockroach mech with the stone of strength to save the Freedom Fighters from being crushed by it, but this is the second time he’s used the stone of strength, you’d think he’d have used it up by now. I guess the stones were feeling generous. 7.

160: “Animal Magnetism”: Why the hell did Snively need to tell Robotnik who Bunnie was when you’d think Snively would remember her forever after that girl power episode? This story must have taken place before it, then. What’s the point of having two people being on the look-out for Robotnik’s robots to guard a picnic, when they’re BOTH looking in the same direction, and are sitting right beside each other? Isn’t Sally supposed to be a tactical genius? Well at least this is her not being perfect, but that’s silly of her.

161: If Robotropolis was attacked by a giant magnet, wouldn’t all the Robians be brought here and the Fall of Robotropolis happen? That magic magnet should’ve had dire consequences for Robotnik, I could’ve easily believed that to be what caused it to fall over an earthquake when Robotnik should’ve done earthquake-proofing. 2.

162: In your Face “The Mirror Zone“ by Patrick Spaz: Why did Zonic, if that was the one responsible, create a portal to the reverse Mirror Zone in the first place when the only thing that served was letting Eggman lead a Swatbot inside it and leave a taunting message to Sonic there? 1.

163: In Your Face “Tails’ Tallest Tale” by Scott Shaw: WHY would Tails ever not fly, even a little bit off the ground, JUST BECAUSE there’s a lot of leaves above him? There’s NO REASON he should’ve fallen into the water from that frog surprising him because he should’ve just been flying over the water!

164: There’s no way Tails wouldn’t have noticed the audience getting up and going to look out the window when he was telling that story! He didn’t go blind and deaf while he was telling it!

165: Tails grabs and holds onto the arms of the mecha, while letting his body rotate instead. He spins around. Robotnik says he can’t focus on him long enough to grab him. Just looking at him spinning around magically makes him dizzy! Just as dizzy as he would be if he himself was spinning around. Yeah that’s not confusing.

166: And because Robotnik’s dizzy, he can’t operate the controls that are right in front of him and the mecha itself falls over somehow. This feels WAY too convenient just for the sake of making fun of Robotnik. Why would Eggman have put any buttons in the mecha’s control panel that would achieve THIS RESULT if he pressed them? 4.

167: Issue 20 “That’s the Spirit” by Angelo; Sally’s somehow scared that if the Swatbots see them, they’ll fail, even though she should know Sonic can just spindash through all of them in seconds,

168: and somehow the Swatbots don’t HEAR THEM.

169: Robotnik can create anti-matter machines now, with no magic. Maybe the magic was a Chaos Emerald offscreen. What’s worse, Nicole has an antimatter sensor programmed into her! Just in case! Why?! Rotor would never think to do this.

170: Why didn’t Sonic spindash instead of walking and tripping on the wire?

171: I’d expect Rotor as WELL as Tails to go into denial about Sonic “ dying “ in an explosion. It feels forced that it’s only Tails who’s Genre Savvy enough to know Sonic has to have survived.

172: Why did Sonic take a while, like a couple of seconds, to even notice that he had become intangible and invisible? Why wasn’t he questioning that he survived the explosion of the building?

173: How did Snively get to be the first one to jump out of the airship, when the last time we saw him, Robotnik had pushed him to the floor? 7.

174: Issue 23 “Ivo Robotnik, Freedom Fighter!” by Angelo; Why do Sonic’s friends think he’s dancing when he looks scared?

175: How has Sonic not gathered all the medicinal berries by now with his super speed?

176: Rotor doesn’t hear that Robotnik has a portable roboticizer and is looking for him because he’s focused on finding ants. This is another Big the Cat moment for him. He’s not deaf or stupid.

177: First off, how did Robotnik have a book with him, a Robotnik Guidebook,

178: and two, how did he get the book out when he’s being held in a giant fist from the middle of the chest down,

179: and three, the book is too tiny for the alien to read, so Robotnik’s being an idiot.

180: And fourth, he expects the alien to pay for the book. So very dumb of him.

181: Somehow the alien’s species is trained to live alone in space rather than being interdependent. Yeah because they never need doctors or engineers, right. No man is an island, what if you get hurt? You’d need others to reproduce and keep yourself from going insane from loneliness.

182: If the alien wants to observe species, can’t he just use cameras that fly? How psychopathic is he to put people who can talk to him in an ant farm instead of just observing them with cameras? The story of Rotor trying to feel the morality of an ant farm feel really ham-strung because a sentient species collecting another sentient species for an ant farm versus someone having pets, isn’t comparable.

183: Tails says to Robotnik that he looks like five slaves, not one. It’s out of character for Tails to tease someone for the way they look when he looks very different himself.

184: Why hasn’t Robotnik tried to kill the Freedom Fighters yet?

185: How does Robotnik already know the randomly introduced Freedom Fighter motto? The Freedom Fighter Fact Finder is the same one that didn’t find Knothole, so no it wouldn’t tell him that either.

186: The alien should’ve been able to hear what the heroes were saying, including them saying Robotnik’s not one of them, because he’s right in front of them.

187: Why is Tails sleeping on top of a tree branch? He’s just risking falling off in his sleep and hurting himself.

188: The ants aren’t dead by the time Rotor reaches him since he hasn’t been feeding them in days.

189: How will Robotnik have the materials to build a vehicle to escape the tank when it’s a replica of the Great Forest?

190: The alien wears metal clothes. How uncomfortable and heavy would clothes with metal sleeves be to wear?

191: There’s a button to send an alien into space, which shouldn’t be able to work when the spaceship is currently in space.

192: Why is the alien bothering to ask for help when he has every reason to think ALL of the heroes would want to kill him when one of them almost sucked him into space?

193: Very arbitrary that the alien decided to bring the heroes home and had a Heel Face Turn because they saved him. 20.

194:“The Vol-Ant’-Teer” by Angelo: I hate that for no reason Antoine was acting like he wasn’t noticing the Swatbots and stuff clearly talking loudly behind him about following him.

195: That combined with Antoine constantly narrating to himself out loud in Robotropolis and it made him look like a complete idiot. 2.

196: Issue 25 “Go Ahead… Mecha my Day!” by Mike Gallagher: Why couldn’t Sonic have just taken his shoe off and been able to walk around just fine while Rotor was attaching a camera to it? Why does Sonic have to stay still?

197: Sonic is just learning now what the device being mounted on his sneaker is.

198: Why is Sally only just now explaining why they’re putting a camera on Sonic’s shoe instead of having explained it already? It’s for showing what’s on the other end of a zone portal.

199: Since Sally thinks the new zone portal could be highly disruptive, why does she think it must be explored instead of wanting to keep her friends away from it?

200: How can Robotnik get letters to Sonic when that should tell him where Knothole is? The letters should have Knothole stamps and he should only be able to find the letters in Knothole itself. But somehow he is luring Sonic with stolen fan letters, and met Amy through those letters.

201: Why is the badnik complaining that Robotnik tampering with the mail is a federal offense? He’s his boss.

202: Robotnik doesn’t know where Knothole is, but he can still send a message to the Freedom Fighters about how he kidnapped Amy.

203: Why in the world are the Freedom Fighters like Sally yelling at Sonic in a council for wanting to save Amy exploring the portal? First Sally was adamant on exploring the portal, and now she’s refusing to let Sonic do it and Antoine is calling Sonic out of order.

204: Tails decides to swoop down LOW to avoid being seen rather than swooping HIGH, which forces the concept of him being kidnapped as an extra redundant hostage with Amy. Was this really necessary?

205: Robotnik’s being stupid by not roboticizing Tails and instead using him as redundant extra bait with Amy.

206: Amy cries acting like she has no faith that Sonic’s gonna win the race. She thinks he’ll lose a race.

207: Why is the energy field of the new zone interfering with Sonic’s foot camera?

208: Snively dressing like Robotnik felt like nothing but a hollow reference to the games, it made no sense in-universe for him to do. Robotnik could’ve just as well have had a robot be there or have Sonic know it was Snively, and it wouldn’t have guaranteed that he’d know Robotnik’s plan. 13.

209: Issue 26 “Way, Way Past Cool!” by Angelo; They make Antoine look like a brainless idiot saying that the blizzard is only a brief summer shower, which feels totally Out of Character.

210: Antoine is a braindead idiot again by saying in a panic that Sonic’s turned blue from hypothermia when no, he’s just regular blue.

211: Nicole magically knows where the nearest cave is for the heroes. But has she ever been here before? Good thing this world has functioning Internet and Wi-Fi so Nicole can connect to it and find out where to go. Not.

212: Why didn’t Sally ask her that earlier?

213: For some reason rather than creating heat with his speed, Sonic says he’s got to defrost first.

214: How did they know Robotnik’s sensors couldn’t penetrate the walls of this cave and know where to find it?

215: How in the world would Sonic being cold, having snow around, prevent him from running?! This is especially nonsensical since Fleetway Sonic doesn’t have this problem, he creates heat by running to melt ice no problem.

216: Why’d one of the Arctic Freedom Fighters say to the heroes “ it seems we’re ALL outcasts “?

217: Why isn’t Robotnik affected by the cold? Snively is!

218: The whole reason Robotnik made his weather machine was so that detecting living beings from their heat would be easier because it’s cold. But there’s no indication that he found people and roboticized them because of this, and he should’ve found Knothole with this, but instead they forgot the whole reason he did the plan in the first place ignoring that consequence. 11.

219: Issue 28 “Growing Pains! – Part 1 of 2” by Gallagher: Tails runs away from home. Sure, it’s planned to be temporary, but he should be smart enough to know why that’s such a bad idea, not be a complete idiot.

220: Robotnik thought to put a camera in this tree for no reason which is the only reason he saw Tails running away in his Sea Fox and planned against him with a Fiona robot.

221: Why did Robotnik think to make a robot infiltrator of Fiona in particular? What is the point of that? Sure, she was in the slave camp, but so were other people, and his plan with her was actually to have an infiltrator infiltrate the resistance group, it originally wasn’t to waste her on Tails when that wouldn’t be as useful, though I guess the plan was to use her for the other plan after she’d win against him. 3.

222: Sonic Triple Trouble “Tttriple Tttrouble!!!” by Mike Gallagher: Bounty Hunters R Us is an overly contrived convenient way of Robotnik getting in contact with Fang. Why would it exist, in a world run by Robotnik where he’d roboticize everyone?

223: Good thing Rotor installed a power reading device in the Sea Fox as he was making it for some reason, when it was never meant to be sailed out to sea anyways, because that’s how the heroes discovered the emerald half that created a new zone and went to it.

224: When an emerald half passes in front of the sun, Knuckles assumes it was a meteor that was green, not just assuming it was a Chaos Emerald.

225: Robotnik shouldn’t have put a mute button on his phone wrist-watch of Fang.

226: If all Fang had to do was shoot Sonic with a neural disruptor, what was the point of hiring him, a living being, to go after Sonic instead of Robotnik hiring a robot instead?

227: Why did the Ancient Walker point a pointed stick at Knux and make him scared?

228: How does an Ancient Walker know what a magnet is to be able to use it as an image to talk to him?

229: Sonic didn’t drown even though he was unconscious when he was knocked into the water.

230: A spindash magically gets aimed up and gets Sonic out of the water.

231: Knuckles jumps to the conclusion that Sonic’s behind this (with Fang). Sonic jumped out of the water!

232: Sonic immediately goes to fight Knuckles after Knuckles knocked out Fang, saving his life. It’s a really sudden and contrived fight that’s OOC as both of them are just as hotheaded and violent as each other.

233: When Knuckles turns his hands into buzzsaws, rather than Sonic being terrified of buzzsaws potentially cutting into his skin, he just taunts him.

234: When Knuckles hits Sonic with his buzzsaw hand, it doesn’t cut him at all. That could be explained as Rings, but Knuckles didn’t have any way of knowing he’d have those, so even him attacking Sonic like that was forced because it’d be uncharacteristic of him to use what’d normally be lethal force like that against Sonic.

235: Knux and Sonic are so in sync with their thoughts that they both decided to do the same desperate convoluted thing to prevent the explosion without explaining their plan to each other verbally.

236: Where was Fang planning on spending the money again? Knothole wouldn’t let him in. If he’s planning to go to the place where Fiona lived for so long to avoid being roboticized for so long, how does he know that’s a safe place and wouldn’t it be way too far away? Is he FROM there? Must be so, he’s not from Knothole. What value to this outlaw could money possibly have? He could just threaten people with his guns, why pay them? It would’ve made more sense if Fang was just trying to discourage Robotnik from roboticizing him or his family. 15.

237: Issue 29 “Steel-Belted Sally” by Angelo: So all the dragons have been roboticized EXCEPT Dulcy. The dragons should’ve all taken down Robotropolis in an army, so the fact that they’ve been haphazardly retconned as all being roboticized too proves that they didn’t think it through or plan it as being the case from the start that they existed.

238: Why did Robotnik make a portable deroboticizer? It should’ve been Rotor making it by reverse-engineering it from a portable roboticizer. This thing only exists so they can force the concept of the plot of the heroes turning Sally into a robot to fight Robotnik, because otherwise they never would’ve done this cool logical plan because they wouldn’t be able to bring her back to normal. If Rotor made it, we would’ve had no reason to not see him make more of them and deroboticize everyone, as he should’ve done eventually to actually earn that happening for the heroes in a major victory, which is why this had to be the case instead. And how could a portable deroboticizer even work? Why would a beam, with no magic in it, work? It MUST use Chaos Emerald shards.

239: I guess Rotor’s gizmo is coated in a special coating that keeps it from blowing up the roboticizer with its metal? How would THAT work?That should’ve been explained. Sally only said that the roboticizer blows up if the subject inside is already a robot, but Flynn has it later on that even cyborgs could get destroyed by a roboticizer. It would’ve blown up on Sally while she was being transformed. Granted it’d create a TINY explosion and that’d be easily repairable, but we don’t even get that. It just falls out magically undamaged and scannable.

240: It’s a miracle that Sally and Sonic immediately know that Bunnie’s plan to turn one of them into a robot is a plan to have them keep their free will with a device of Rotor’s as a robot. How would they know that right away? Sally’s the paranoid one, not Antoine, she should’ve freaked out even more than him.

241: It seems really Out of Character that Sally would agree to a risky plan to get herself turned into a robot, even with something that’ll let her keep her free will. Anyone else would’ve done it, but still Sally’d say no, as Issue 39 shows.

242: Now all of a sudden there’s a Swatbot that rather than simply talking like all the other ones, only says, “ this is a recording, “ after saying what he does.

243: The free will chip fell out from behind Sally’s ear when she was put in the roboticizer. Rotor would’ve made the device able to work when in her mouth or pierced her ear and had it as an earring. Instead, it was in a place that was easy for Robotnik to find.

244: Why did Robotnik take offense to being told that he’s trusting and innocent as a shark, when he’s knowingly evil and proud of it?

245: Why was Metal Sally able to resist Eggman’s control by slowing herself down? 10.

246: Issue 29 “Growing Pains! – Part 2 of 2” by Gallagher: The idea that a robot infiltrator wouldn’t be waterproof is again bullshit. So a Deus ex Machina rusts her, which comes out of nowhere.

247: Tails thinks he can make Robotnik repair Fake Fiona, all to force him not to get her repaired by Rotor because he thinks she’ll be saved. The writers completely forget about her and it’s forever a dangling plot thread because we never see the fake Fiona again. 2.

248: Tails Miniseries Issue 1 “Southern Crossover! Part I” by Gallagher: Tails is happily talking as if he’s abandoning his friends because he’s growing up. That seems OOC, no matter how resentful he is of their infantile treatment.

249: Why the hell would the invisibility cloak of the blimp be so that when you see the blimp from directly below, you can see it? If he’s capable of making a cloaking device, he’d also be capable of making one without that convenient weakness.

250: Tails apparently didn’t destroy Octobot with missiles, letting Octobot live on to inconvenience him in a Diabolus ex Machina.

251: How is Crocbot able to plot against Robotnik? Shouldn’t he not have free will? The idea that he’s able to plot against him at all is completely ridiculous. I thought the whole reason he had a robot sub-boss was so that this wouldn’t happen. Why didn’t he put a Robian in charge instead?

252: Since the Forty Fathom Freedom Fighters have been fighting Octobot for all this time, why hadn’t they destroyed him before this issue happened? Because they do amazing overpowering him here. 5.

253: Tails Miniseries Issue 2 “Southern Crossover! Part 2” by Gallagher: Athair being in Downunda feels very forced, he should be somewhere else. In retrospect, why wasn’t he with the wandering tribe? He wouldn’t leave it to go see his dying mother but he’ll leave it to tell Tails a prophecy FAR in advance when that’ll turn out to be pointless!

254: How did the sea creature speak understandably underwater? 2.

255: Tails Miniseries Issue 3 “Southern Crossover! Part 3” by Gallagher: Why was Tails scared of Athair from thinking he was Knuckles?

256: Why did Tails ever think the elderly Athair WAS Knuckles? He’s in Downunda, not on Angel Island.

257: Why would Athair lie to Tails that the Ancient Walkers were statues and they weren’t speaking through him at all?

258: Why did Athair leave so quickly without explanation when Barby the Koala showed up? It was rude to Tails.

259: The hippie sings about peace when Crocbot is attacking, which is really stupid of him to do.

260: Why would the explosion of the Boomerang create an image of Athair’s head? Athair isn’t here. He left Tails a while ago. 6.

261: Super Sonic vs Hyper Knuckles “Clash of the Titans”: Knux gets a wild conspiracy theory that Robotropolis isn’t radioactive because of toxins but because of the Lake of Rings’ radiation. It wouldn’t have nuclear radiation from magic Rings. I hope that’s not the only reason he decided to go there and start his part of the plot because that’s forced.

262: Why would Sonic waste time standing in front of Knuckles reading out what Sally wanted him to right after he hit Knuckles? He wanted to rush into a fight, and he ran out the door of his base with no indication he was holding that thing. It was just an Idiot Ball excuse for him to get hit by Knuckles. Since when is Sonic so obedient to Sally? He doesn’t even try to read all of it. So he wouldn’t try at all.

263: Why’d Knux call Sally Princess Sally Acorn if she had been his childhood friend for years? They were childhood friends, so he wouldn’t be referring to her in a formal way like this.

264: Why did Sally tell Sonic to go after Knuckles in that magical zone? Shouldn’t she have known they’d just start fighting there? They were fighting before!

265: I’m expected to believe Sonic wasn’t about to bring up that Sally was friends with Knuckles when he questioned that before and instead was asking about chili dogs.

266: How did Mighty hear about Sonic and Knux’s fight when they were alone together in a different zone entirely? 6.

267: Issue 30 “The Return of Uncle Chuck” by Angelo; Shouldn’t Robotnik know why Snively’s running a test of a test?

268: Why would Robotnik decide to do it himself if he disagrees with Snively doing this?

269: HOW did Robotnik get warped away to the Void?! He wasn’t in the tube, Chuck was! All he did was press a button, why did that warp him away and trap him?! How could someone unintentionally program the machine to make that mistake?

270: Uncle Chuck regaining his free will is extremely forced and so confusing that I forgot how it happened once. He was teleported with the tech that sent the king to the Zone of Silence. The fact that Chuck’s rescue is so contrived and stupid and confusing, is really an anticlimactic and underwhelming way of saving him. They couldn’t think of a way to save him that was epic since it by nature should’ve been quick and easy, just have Sonic pick him up and run away with him and put him in a deroboticizer or reprogram him with Rotor.

271: Nicole is used as an omniscient psychic god because she magically knows that the most likely result of Snively taking over the world, would be the world’s destruction. She doesn’t know him that well.

272: How did Snively get the “ same uniform “ as Robotnik to fit him perfectly?

273: Why does Snively think teleporting away a forest will prove he’s not a sicko? And why didn’t Snively aim at the Great Forest as a whole and thus Knothole instead of hitting some random trees?! I guess he couldn’t warp away THAT much at once.

274: Sonic distracting Snively to slow down his airship hinges on the idea that biting two chili dogs at once can cause a loud CHOMP sound. It would’ve worked better if he was eating chips. Or he could’ve yelled at him suddenly, or said something really confusing, like “ Robotnik wears dresses, “ making him laugh.

275: Why would Robotnik follow through his end of the bargain after he agreed to not harm Snively and the heroes?

276: They don’t even bother to explain why Sonic escaped the Void. I guess Robotnik was feeling very generous that day. 11.

277: “Who Keeps Stealing my Chaos Emeralds?!”by Paul Castiglia; Why would Robotnik send Coconuts to protect his remaining Emeralds on his island base instead of sending a much more powerful robot? 1.

278: Issue 31 “Tundra Road – Part One” by Gallagher: Why hasn’t Robotnik polluted the North Pole yet? How can it be the last pristine place, especially since it’s just snow? Wouldn’t he have had both the poles completely melt by now by accident from global warming?

279: Why would Sally ever let Rotor leave to save his family by himself with no protection at all? Why wouldn’t she send Bunnie with him as a bodyguard? The brilliant tactician, everyone!

280: The idea that Rotor’s walrus herd was brainwashed not by nanobots, cybernetics or roboticization, but because a neuron bomb went off above them. How’d that brainwash them instead of killing them?! It could’ve been so much simpler.

281: Rotor gets knocked out and then falls underwater, and somehow doesn’t immediately get water in his lungs and drown before he could be saved. 4.

282: Issue 32 “Blast from the Past” by Angelo: Sonic only just now told Bunnie about his pet Muttski.

283: For some reason, when Sonic causes the heating ray to speed up its process, the caveman is fine when it’s unfrozen instead of dying from being reheated too fast. It’s really glaring because Rotor was clearly going to make a heating ray that would take a long time to carefully thaw him, so they seemed to be aware of the rules of reality, but then they’re ignored.

284: Why is Sonic opposed to helping and reviving the caveman? He’s supposed to be reckless, but he psychically knows the caveman will cause trouble

285: while Bunnie and Rotor didn’t somehow. Rotor’s a genius. Chuck also should’ve known better and prevented this.

286: Sonic gets dizzy so that he’ll need rescuing by Mobie. But the spindash never does that to him! Also, good thing the caveman believes Sonic about this robot dog being his beloved dog when Muttski was trying to attack him earlier. Well, this is a world with a cyborg in it, maybe he thought anything was possible at that point.

287: No way Muttski’s paw would break off that easily, a robot would be better built than that. And that’s not funny, Muttski should’ve been freaking out. Why did they laugh at it?

288: Robotnik doesn’t know about the Mobian Jungle that the caveman was put in. You’d think he’d know about every part of the world due to satellites and geographers. But somehow, he never gets found by Robotnik and roboticized. 7.

289: Issue 32 “Tundra Road – Part Two” by Gallagher: The French guy thinks the Arctic Freedom Fighters can’t help Rotor because they live far away even though they’re right there in the Arctic.

290: The polar bear Augustus grabs Rotor threateningly for asking for help.

291: Rotor had an electronic tracker with him for no reason, that lets him track his herd so it doesn’t die of exposure on the ice floe. Good thing it was waterproof to not stop working when he fell in the water! So did he use that to find the herd later and make sure they would be taken care of while they were still brainwashed? They logically should’ve starved since they weren’t robots. 3.

292: Issue 33 “Let’s Get Small!” by Gallagher: Why would the Freedom Fighters ever be stupid enough to buy from a fast food restaurant called McRobo’s, which would obviously be from Robotnik? The entire foundation of the story is forced. Wouldn’t it be a restaurant that’d be new and unfamiliar, and obviously outside of Knothole or else Robotnik would’ve discovered where it is? Shouldn’t they have gone for a Knothole restaurant instead? Robotnik shouldn’t have been able to get at their food supply in the first place since he doesn’t know where Knothole is, and if he could, he would’ve poisoned it more lethally rather than putting sickness nanobots in it. It’s very OOC for Sally to have fallen for this. The whole of Knothole was deserted, implying that all the villagers were poisoned by this McRobos, which is also really silly. We even see a civilian next to the Freedom Fighters who is poisoned.

293: If Eggman could make a virus against the heroes, why didn’t he make a virus powerful enough to kill them really quickly, instead of a virus so lame that Sonic could save the heroes from it just by inspiring their ” auntie bodies ” to fight back when they thought it was hopeless? Why didn’t he make it a terminal disease like the plague at that point? If the answer is that then winning would be too easy, SO was THIS! Also why was he fine with doing this to them when he wouldn’t be able to see his victory, like he could by accessing the memory banks of a robot that’d defeat them?

294: The antibodies are sentient people that look like normal Mobians, which is DUMB.

295: How can the antibodies call each other on cell phones and call antibodies from other people?

296: The fire from the nanobots somehow doesn’t kill the people whose bodies have the fire in them. 5.

297: Issue 34 “To ‘Bot or Not to ‘Bot!” by Angelo; The deroboticization process by Rotor DOESN’T WORK on Chuck and Muttski no matter what, which is extremely stupid and arbitrary. It’s only from meta logic.

298: I’m expected to believe Robians don’t get tired. You can only leave a computer on for so long.

299: Why is Snively surprised and startled by the sight of Robotnik leading an army of Combots? Shouldn’t he be used to him by now?

300: Dulcy forgets that the Combots are invincible and only remembers that they’re invisible, which makes the heroes think they’d have a fighting chance because she says that to them.

301: WHY did Robotnik not roboticize Sonic?! He had him captured! That was the perfect chance! Why waste the opportunity by tying him to the front of a tank?! He should roboticize him and then do that, if he wants to so badly! That’s a huge idiot moment for him.

302: How did Chuck train Muttski to pretend to be against Sonic? He couldn’t give him food because he’s a robot. I guess he was reprogrammed, to both be okay with not eating treats anymore as a robot, and reprogrammed later to know to pretend to be against Sonic.

303: It sure was convenient that Dulcy happened to be right next to Robotnik and Snively’s window to overhear their plan with the Combots. 7.

304: Issue 35 “Rings of Truth!” by Gallagher: For some reason something super special happens when Sonic collects his one billionth Ring, getting him to the Ancient Walkers as its result, instead of giving him a super form.

305: Why did Robotnik keep track of every Ring Sonic got,

306: how could he possibly know how many Rings he collected,

307: and how did he already know ahead of time that his one billionth Ring would cause something special to happen to him?

308: Why DO the Ancient Walkers live in another dimension when they come from Mobius? It’s implied by Mogul that they’ve lived here long before Robotnik, so that’s not it.

309: Why are the Ancient Walkers messing with Sonic instead of being straightforward with him? Why are they being cryptic and making him figure stuff out?

310: These Ancient Walkers knowing English from another dimension raises the question of why the other Ancient Walkers didn’t know English and these ones do.

311: Why did the billionth Ring lift Sonic really high and grow to save him from an emerald sea, and so on, and so forth? Shouldn’t it be just like every other Ring? That’s dumb. It takes high temperatures to keep gemstones liquid, so why would Sonic putting his hand in the emerald sea bring out harmless solid emeralds instead of burning him horribly? Shouldn’t he die from the convection alone? So it’s not a real sea, it’s not liquid after all.

312: How in the world do you spend that long living on Mobius without knowing that Emeralds and Rings are related to each other? Later on it’s explained that Nate created Rings using Emerald power.

313: Good thing Rings are familiar with the human’s infinity symbol to form it as a hint, somehow, without sentience.

314: WHY would Robotnik have a dashboard alarm made to detect when Sonic will come back from the Ancient Walker dimension after getting his one billionth ring? Maybe it’s just a Sonic detector in general using his DNA. But that’s the only time we see it being used, making it look overly convenient for Robotnik and fitted for this exact situation. The BIG PROBLEM is that the alarm goes off BEFORE Sonic shows up from out of the portal. So if it detects his DNA, why is it able to detect Sonic when Sonic’s not even in the dimension yet? Also why didn’t it track him down to Knothole? I guess it only works at close-range.

315: Why would Sonic’s one billionth Ring creating a protective aura around him be considered special when all Rings do that? That has to be why a lot of the Sonic characters survive lethal slapstick and don’t get hurt as much as they would. 12.

316: Issue 37 ” The Day Robotropolis Fell “ by Angelo: Nicole quantifies their chances of surviving leaving the quaking Robotropolis. How?

317: Sure is convenient there was a hole in the falling tower for Sonic to jump through for no reason. 2.

318: Issue 38 “The Rise of Robotropolis… The Fall of Sonic!” by Kent Taylor: Sonic is humming his theme song from a cartoon, which is dumb meta logic since that song doesn’t exist in his universe, unless it does. Anyways, why doesn’t Sonic just use the Ring he has to WISH HIS SPEED BACK when he loses it?

319: Antoine was dropped onto a robot from a high height and somehow that doesn’t injure him.

320: It’s annoyingly inconsistent that THIS time, an explosion near someone knocks them out, and it’s Sonic of all people?

321: Why would Sonic ever lose his super speed just because lightning struck a robot near him? That’s very dumb. And that’s the entire premise of the story, so the whole story never should’ve happened. He was holding a Ring at the time, which by definition should’ve made him invulnerable to the attack.

322: No matter how stressed out Sonic is deep down from losing his super speed, him insulting Dylan that he’s no cousin of his, and calling him Porky, RIGHT AFTER HE SAVED HIS LIFE, came completely out of nowhere. He’s just unnecessarily awful to him after he saved his life, just like Hamlin to Geoffrey.

323: Robotropolis was rebuilt way too quickly. Why call the previous story the Fall of it, then? 6.

324: Issue 39 “Rage against the Machine” by Gallagher: Sonic should NEVER want to become a robot, ever, not even temporarily for a plan.

325: Sonic also never should’ve gone into the weights room to blow off steam because he NEVER showed any indication of doing that regularly earlier. Sonic is not the type to lift weights. And this is the entire premise of the story, since him going there is just an excuse for Fang to drop a dumbbell on him.

326: Since when is SALLY the one who has the most faith in Sonic to be loyal and not go behind her back? She CONSTANTLY shows paranoia of Sonic! She thought he’d ditch her when she was trapped in the claw of a giant mecha, and when she was in a simulation! Is she trying too hard to compensate for it by pretending she has faith in him now? I guess so. The real plot hole is, why would Sally even call it disloyalty when it’s Sonic trying to help them with a misguided plan?!

I bet Robotnik has the same approach where he punishes robots for trying to help him just because they’re doing something he tells them not to do. (IDW Eggman literally has the same approach when Starline brought the Zeti to his Faceship to control the zombots. He should’ve instantly known he was just trying to help him control them because they’re technomages, not called Starline a traitor just for acting independently, with a risky plan to help him.)

If Sonic WAS disloyal, he’d inconvenience the heroes, but instead he doesn’t even beat up Antoine. What if Sally got addicted to drugs, would she call it disloyal and betrayal for Sonic taking her to rehab when she doesn’t order him to? This is one of the two things that makes the heroes’ heartless treatment of Sonic a horrible OOC moment for almost all of them, because it’s just stupid.

327: The entire premise of the story and thus Issue 40 once again is stupid because you’d think the heroes would assume that since Sonic’s attacking them, he must have not had the neuro-overrider on, so why in the world would they ever think he was betraying them? It was just a bad coincidence. It’s not like the heroes think those things don’t work, because that wasn’t said to Sonic when his plan was turned down, he was talking as if they did work. No matter what, they should care more about their friend and have the selfish “ he did something I said not to, “ be the LAST THING on their minds. They all just act like Sonic betrayed them right away the very instant they see him roboticized, which is disgusting. Plus if there ARE neuro-overriders, since the Combots were introduced, there’s no reason EVERYONE shouldn’t be wearing them just in case. Rotor should’ve made as many of them as possible. So Sonic would have one, not that it’d have mattered.

328: Why the HELL would Robotnik not roboticize Fang?! Why ever waste a perfectly good robot slave? This would’ve been great satisfying karma for Fang, making him a robot, too.

329: Nicole the magic wand psychically knows that Mecha Sonic is Sonic and not a new robot Sonic like Metal Sonic, even though there should be no trace of Sonic’s DNA in him because he’s oil and metal with no DNA in him. It would’ve been much less depressing if the heroes never knew it was actually Sonic to begin with. The entire depressingness as a whole could’ve been easily avoided. THANKS, Nicole, thanks a lot, you big mouth! So yet another reason the whole story arc should’ve gone differently.

330: Why didn’t Knuckles inquire into Tails saying he met Athair? I know he’s excited to fight Mecha Sonic, but come on, that’d distract him.

331: More importantly, if Sally’s so okay with roboticizing her friends for a last resort, then why didn’t she agree to Sonic’s plan?! She has a safer roboticizer with her, so they should’ve carried out the plan of Sonic’s with THAT and there would be no risk because Robotnik wouldn’t be there with brain-burner tech to stop the plan! So another reason the whole story arc never should’ve happened. If it’s called Operation Last Resort, why aren’t they just accepting because of the idea that Sonic did this plan as a last resort? 8.

332: “Mecha Madness” by Gallagher: (remember, it has the same forced concepts as last issue of the heroes being OOC instead of worried for Sonic and thinking he’s a traitor and not brainwashed, so with that:) When Knuckles wakes up from the daze, he attacks Rotor because he’s fat. But he’s not seeing him as Robotnik.

333: It’s forced that Antoine and Rotor get all panicky and teary when Knuckles goes into the roboticizer. They know they can deroboticize him!

334: The roboticized Sonic resists and hesitates at following Robotnik’s orders to destroy his former allies, and send the location of Knothole, which makes zero sense, because Robotnik had upgraded his roboticizer in the anti-free will department and if he was able to resist at all, it’d prove he has free will, which he clearly doesn’t.

335: Robotnik should be given a much shorter life by the remaining nuclear fallout after leaving the nuclear shelter. He wouldn’t last a day after just having a radioactive capsule at home for a night. He should know that, not fearlessly leave and survive until issue 50.

336: How the hell would Knuckles know that Robotnik started using inferior foreign parts to make roboticizers?

337: And how would Knuckles know about his brain-burn roboticizer?!

338: It’s illogical that Sonic would blame himself and want to die when he should know he didn’t have proper free will and it wasn’t his fault Fang knocked him out and Eggman roboticized him.

339: Why does Sonic have a headache after being returned to normal, when if it was because he retained damage from earlier, he’d look a LOT MORE HURT? Why would Nicole save his data from when he had a headache?

340: Nicole apparently has the data, so she can be plugged into Mecha Sonic since he has a hole to do that. So now Nicole’s a deroboticizer, at least for Sonic because of the Ring in him.

341: SINCE WHEN can Nicole’s handheld form JUMP out of Rotor’s HAND?! HOW?! Rotor should’ve just agreed right away instead. If he thinks the required energy would, whatever, then why’d he say that if he’ll be wrong?!

342: If even Knuckles knows about brain-burn through system, they should’ve, so they should’ve told Sonic about it in the beginning of issue 39 to fully convince themselves that he wouldn’t do that since the chips wouldn’t work.

343: Friends don’t send their friends to prison for trying to help them! Plus, they should know they’re doomed without Sonic, and be so relieved that he’s back to normal that they’d forgive him. 12.

344: Mecha Madness “Don’t Let the Island Hit you on the way Down” by Kent Taylor: Mogul is the former ruler of Mobius, born centuries before most modern races. So why isn’t he ruling Mobius right now? He’s a powerful wizard! He must have outlived the original people who were somehow powerful enough to dethrone him, so why didn’t he take back the world, why didn’t he keep Robotnik from rising to power? This is very forced. Not angering, but still, Mogul should’ve come from a separate dimension, that was destroyed or whatever better explanation made it so he had to flee here, and the emeralds there were more powerful to make him immortal.

345: Why is he immortal? Plenty use emeralds and aren’t immortal, and I don’t see why the emerald being in his chest should make a difference instead of just damaging/destroying a vital organ. The emerald’s just a little closer to him than it is when someone holds it. It doesn’t make them immortal from holding it, or, did it and we just didn’t know?

346: Why would ONE more emerald from the Floating Island increase his power a thousand-fold to let him take over the world? 3.

347: Mecha Madness “Eel of Fortune” by Gallagher: Why the hell is Octobot afraid of the Eel mafia guy instead of trying to roboticize him? He should’ve grabbed the Eel Capone with his eight tentacles. The whole plot is nonsensical because of that alone. 1.

348: Issue 40 “Court Martial” by Gallagher: What has Antoine done lately to deserve being given a coronation and promoted? After he’ll tackle Geoffrey, he’ll go literally over a hundred issues without any badass moments of usefulness.

349: Why is Sonic being given chili dogs in prison, even if stale ones? And yet Sally says no one deserves special treatment. But that has to be why he’s getting these, illegally.

350: It’s extremely forced that Bunnie dismisses Sonic saving her life with, “ That’s old news, sugah! “ the most ungrateful assholey thing she could ever say to that.

351: Bunnie also wants to murder Sonic with a hedgehog hunter if he tries to run. You’d expect better from the bland nice girl! It’s not even like she was stuck in the hospital with horrible injuries because of Mecha Sonic’s shock. She got up after it.

352: Antoine is an extremely harsh prosecutor and it’s to the point of him scaring his own friends, even making a little girl cry. This is OOC even for someone who was bullied by Sonic. He’s very harsh to BUNNIE, Amy and Tails! Maybe this has been building up in him for years since Sonic bullied him for his entire life and always got away with it. Still doesn’t explain why he’s yelling at friends who didn’t bully him.

353: More importantly, why is Antoine the prosecutor? He’s not a lawyer, first of all. So this would not be legal.

354: And second, Antoine has a very vested interest in getting Sonic in jail, so making such a biased person the prosecutor shouldn’t be legal! This is the kind of hateful behavior that would even get a member of the JURY kicked out for bias. He personally knows Sonic!

355: How would Sonic know it was Fang who got him roboticized? Sure, the cell next to him was empty, but that could’ve been a coincidence. If Antoine wasn’t familiar enough with who is in every cell and where everyone is in the prison to even notice that, WHY would Sonic know that that’s Fang’s cell? He wouldn’t have seen when Fang was put in it. Fang knocked him out with a barbell very shortly after leaving prison. How would he know who exactly to blame and where to go? It’s a Deus ex Machina.

356: Sonic turns his hands into buzzsaws to shred his cuffs out of complete nowhere. Well, then, I guess that’s how Scourge gets rid of HIS handcuffs. Fine, he’s a magical blue hedgehog. More importantly, why IS there a badnik hobo jungle instead of Robotnik getting all the obsolete robots of his scrapped for spare parts? Why would the badniks decide to go there and disobey Robotnik’s desire for that?

357: How would the badniks know where Fang is? They aren’t friends.

358: How can Fang have an account with a PIN number in a world like this when he’s a fugitive? Governments can freeze bank accounts.

359: It feels very Deus ex Machina that Sonic wakes up in Fang’s vehicle and punches him. The last two times he was knocked out, he took way longer to wake up.

360: Why the hell would Fang’s vehicle have a self-destruct mechanism in it?

361: Somehow Sonic was able to pop out the windscreen of Rotor’s wrist monitor

362: and use it as a GAS MASK filter. How?!

363: Why did they bother making him wear the wrist monitor if he’s able to take it off?

364: How would Sonic instantly forgive his friends for that betrayal, including Antoine, and turn down a public apology?! If he was a good audience surrogate and thus main character, he would still be sore with them and have trust issues with them and be especially bitter towards Antoine for scheming against him, but no, everything’s happy and kiddy after Sonic was put in prison. 17.

365: Sonic’s Quest Issue 1 “The Death Egg Saga Book One – Scrambled” by Gallagher: Why and how was Sonic up at the crack of dawn if he wasn’t part of the mission with Geoffrey and Sally?

366: How could the doctor stabilize the king in a crystallized delirious condition like this? This is something he should have no experience with.

367: Wouldn’t deodorant cover up Geoffrey’s stench? So how could he smell all the time?

368: Somehow the air of Mobius is adversely affecting the king and making him crystallized even though the air of the Zone of Silence has to be the same or the heroes would’ve had trouble breathing or commented on the air being different. Why would NORMAL air affect him adversely and not the magic air of the Zone of Silence? To this day, I still don’t understand why the king was crystallized and delirious after leaving the Zone of Silence. If that was a spell of Ixis in the event he leaves the zone, he should’ve had a spell instead to just warp him back to him in the event he leaves the zone, then.

369: If the special billionth ring’s power is tied to Sonic and loyal to him, why was it able to affect the king at all, let alone temporarily snap him out of it?

370: Rings shouldn’t help the king at all if an Emerald will just make him more crystallized as Emeralds and Rings have something in common. They shouldn’t think to go look for Rings. They’re just weaker Emeralds.

371: Why didn’t Sonic wish on the Ring that the king would recover? He was already doing that in his thoughts but that only temporarily woke him up somehow.

372: Tails and Sonic should’ve assumed the evil plan was by Robotnik right away.

373: Sonic, why would you ever leave Tails alone ANYWHERE? Every single time you’ve leave him behind, he gets in trouble! Granted, Sonic is supposed to be reckless. But it’s still a giant Idiot Ball to get them separated. 9.

374: Sonic’s Quest Issue 2 “The Death Egg Saga Book Two – Poached” by Gallagher: How IS Tails able to operate a Swatbot like a puppet and fit in the entirety of it like it’s a HOLLOW suit? Wouldn’t it have wires in it? Wouldn’t people notice that Tails’ Swatbot disguise has a cracked head? Like Robotnik. Maybe he did and figured he tripped and fell or bumped into something. And he didn’t care enough to mention it.

375: Sonic magically keeps himself hovering in the air with the Super Peel-Out so he can punch the roboticized Carl Condor. That’s dumb, but fine, he’s magical anyways. More importantly, why were the giant Burrobots close together when they were seen going in separate directions on Angel Island to search it better earlier?

376: If the Emerald has infinite power, why is it that it can’t distribute enough power in every single part of the island for all of it to stay above the ocean?

377: Why haven’t the rest of the civilians on Angel Island fallen off the island when it was tilting, when we saw the Chaotix almost falling off it? 4.

378: Sonic’s Quest Issue 3 ‘The Death Egg Saga Book Three – Over Easy” by Gallagher: How did Tails rig the Death Egg to explode when he doesn’t know what any of its buttons do and isn’t smart yet?

379: The detonation of the Death Egg is felt all over Mobius. Wouldn’t that have severely harmful effects on the place closest to it, then? It doesn’t.

380: Robotnik landing on Snively from a fall smooshes him against his rear and he’s stuck there for a long time, and somehow that doesn’t kill him, from either the impact right away or the effects of having to stay there not being able to get himself water or go to the washroom the whole time. Rule of Funny. 3.

381: Issue 42 “In Every Kingdom There Must Exist A Little Chaos!” by Kent Taylor: Sonic just leaves Angel Island instead of getting the spare emeralds from Knuckles to save King Acorn. That feels like a major OOC moment for him, he wouldn’t just give up. He was fighting him when they were both Super earlier.

382: More importantly, when did Sonic learn that Knuckles had a spare Emerald so he could go fight him for it later? When did Eggman tell him that?

383: If the Crown of Acorns was so powerful, and the king had it on, why did the king not defeat all the robots and Robotnik with it? Also if it can’t do that, why did Tails misread the royal document as the hall of Jimbo? Stupid joke.

384: Sleuth is derailed to be a pure evil traitor for power by Robotnik. Why would ANYONE trust Robotnik to hold up his end of the bargain? Robotnik doesn’t need him as he is with free will, so why would a Mobian support someone who roboticizes? The betrayal comes out of nowhere to prove Sally right about her inexplicable paranoia about him. This used to be a character smart enough to think he should make it so that his coded messages on a wall really are just graffiti, just in case, by making actual graffiti near them, so his only trait before this was being smart, but only an idiot or someone just ignorant would trust Robotnik.

385: More importantly, Sleuth expects us to believe that Eggman STILL DOESN’T KNOW where the LAKE OF RINGS IS even though Combots clearly discovered it in 38 and lived to capture the Freedom Fighters afterwards, and made it back to Eggman. But somehow he still didn’t know where it was. So he needed to betray Sally by following her here.

386: Sonic generates tornadoes by spinning his hands in a tiny circle downwards at his side from the air, and this bullshit power is never used again. At least it’s still aerokinetic, but still. All of his bullshit powers could be totally justified if he had a bunch of Rings or an Emerald to enhance his natural abilities. But he’s a magical hedgehog. More importantly, why did Knuckles once find the Kingdom of Acorn beautiful when he’s never been to it before when it WAS beautiful? He talks like he knows firsthand how it was.

387: Good thing the crystallization that accelerated reversed itself after the emerald wasn’t being drained anymore.

388: Apparently Rings can grant knowledge, giving Sonic a vision that the Sword of Acorns has a magical link to the crown that will lead them to it. Why didn’t the Ring also TELL HIM where the Sword WAS?! Couldn’t the royal document have told them all that? 8.

389: Sonic Live “ The Substitute Freedom Fighters “ by Rich Koslowski: Why is it that I’m expected to believe Sonic’s friends got kidnapped in a fight so easily? Bunnie was there, and she’s not totally useless and incompetent. 1.

390: Issue 45 “Guerilla Thriller” by Angelo: Why would Rotor know about rare berries? It’s not like he’s a berryologist, he’s an engineer! How does this fall into his line of interest? That wasn’t even necessary, they could’ve found out about what the berries do from Sonic falling asleep anyways. Anyways, since people can have two interests, here’s the real forced thing; for some reason the gorilla warriors agree to letting Sonic leave to find them weapons in exchange for their freedom. If they’re already skeptical of him, shouldn’t they not let him out of their sight?

391: Supposedly the gorillas used to be gentle and timid. They’re jungle warriors, they have to hunt! If they were ever gentle and timid, they wouldn’t have had the heart to kill animals to survive to this point!

392: How could Snively expect to be promoted? He’s already second-in-command!

393: The whole premise/foundation of the story is that Sonic and Rotor are being treated like slaves by the jungle people. That always felt forced, shouldn’t they KNOW that if the most competent heroes were captured by them, Robotnik would run free and ruin the jungle? How can the heroes be useful to them if they’re chained to trees? 4.

394: Sonic Blast “Sonic Blast” by Gallagher: Why would Sally think she needs to keep her friendship with Knuckles earlier a secret to PROTECT THE PLANET? Would it explode?

395: How did Sally get to Sonic before Rotor and Tails in the submarine did? How fast IS she? No shortcut is faster than a submarine!

396: Since WHEN does water from water shooters deroboticize Flickies, let alone anything?! Sonic threw water from the ocean at some and that worked! It must be infused with Emerald power from offscreen. But then the heroes would’ve used water OR Emeralds to deroboticize EVERYONE. How did they not think of that? They were lucky they ever saw one portable derobotizer. They lost it before they could analyze it, and they wouldn’t get another one. If they did, it’d only have enough juice for one person, so they couldn’t put that energy in THAT MUCH WATER. They’d only be able to deroboticize one Flicky and even that’d be lucky. We don’t see the heroes proceed to use water guns against Robians in general after this either, for some reason. Why is this rule for only Flickies?

397: Good thing they brought water shooters, when those water shooters can’t hurt anything, so why would they ever put them in the submarine?

398: Robotnik shocks Sonic with his nose, and conveniently, Sonic snaps out of it instantly and immediately is able to jump into the Flicky Ring with Robotnik. Worst shock ever!

399: How did Robotnik have all those bosses on hand for Sonic? He just got to the island, alone. He didn’t expect Sonic. Did Sonic stand there and politely wait for Robotnik to finish making every mecha against him? Well, he does love a challenge, so maybe he did. But he’s impatient! He’d be insanely bored by all that waiting! But fine. The real question is, why was the giant stone Flicky sleeping SITTING UP? That’s not comfortable. Also, I don’t see how Sonic’s atoms vibrating fast enough would let him go intangible to free himself from the cape! Just call it magic! Why pretend it’s scientific? Well, he is a magic hedgehog. And later we find out he’s a fan of The Flash, and that’s where he got this idea. 8.

400: Sonic Blast “Bugged Bunnie” by Angelo: Why would the mole eat the tracking device?

401: If Eggman could just build a tracking device and stick it on someone to find Knothole, why didn’t he do it already and find it? 2.

402: Issue 50 “The Big Goodbye” (by Gallagher p 4-9 starting with Jules and Chuck saving Robotnik and the last page is where Tails and Rotor get stopped in escaping by fake king; Karl Bollers for pages 10 to 15 which start with Robotnik and Crocbot talking, shows Hershey against Drago and big fight, and end with Robotnik saying only he can exist, Kent Taylor for pg 16-21 which ends a page before Robotnik’s disappearance, Penders in the Robotnik backstory beginning three pages and exposition confusing ending): Why has no one noticed or commented on the disappearance of Antoine and Bunnie? 1.

403: by Karl Bollers: Somehow Bunnie’s collar had been gotten off and she had thrown it without it exploding. If someone can just take the collar off, why did anyone bother with such a pathetic collar? I don’t understand Bunnie and Antoine’s escape at all. At least it gets explained as Barba doing it later. But how do the Downunda Freedom Fighters expect to take out Crocbot and his crew with no special powers or weapons? How overconfident. 1.

404: by Kent Taylor: Robotnik made a video diary for nobody for no reason and this idiotic mistake by a dictator only happened so Antoine could find out about the Ultimate Annihilator.

405: Sonic thinks that if he modulates the “ frequency “ of his speed while running, he can create after-images of himself to mess with any opponent. First off, he wouldn’t say modulate.

406: Also speed has no frequency. And he could create those simply by going fast enough, no modulation involved, so why say that?

407: How’d Robotnik know about Antoine’s attempt to stop the Ultimate Annihilator? There was no indication that he was anywhere near a, ” plot convenience monitor, ” we saw him saying this in a room without one in it.

408: How did an announcement happen telling Robotnik exactly what happened to inconvenience the Ultimate Annihilator? How could Robotnik predict that this would happen?

409: For no reason Sonic feels like he’s been put through the wringer and collapses. He doesn’t tire that easily, all he did was fight with Robotnik directly for a bit. 6.

410: Issue 51 “Reality Bytes” by Bollers: Why does Sonic think “ first my best friends BETRAY me, “ and, “ betrayed by my best friends,” when they couldn’t help being roboticized in that dream? And he didn’t think this way in issue 40.

411: Bunnie’s eyes changing colors isn’t what tips Sonic off that she’s a robot.

412: Why does the Bunnie robot even know about Chuck’s holographic projection?

413: If Sonic couldn’t even lift the Ring, why was he able to give it to the robot Bunnie as a straitjacket?

414: Sonic somehow figures out what the Chuck hologram’s gibberish is.

415: How was Chuck able to say Sonic’s name in the message when the rest of it was gibberish?

416: Sonic going into denial about the whole situation saying that it doesn’t feel real, magically wakes him up from the simulation. You’d think Snively would’ve made waking up from it impossible. Snively shouldn’t have made a dream with the assumption that Sonic would give up because he should know that wouldn’t happen. He should’ve just programmed it so Sonic would always stay in the dream regardless of whether he figured out it wasn’t real.

417: How was Sonic’s award booby-trapped to give Sonic a bad dream when Snively couldn’t possibly get to the award? Knothole’s in a temporal zone that can only be accessed through the Great Oak Slide stump. Snively might not even know it still exists. 8.

418: Issue 52 “The Discovery Zone” by Tom Rolston: Somehow Sonic’s never been to this part of the forest before, in ALL the years he’s lived there with sonic speed. He would’ve explored all of the forest for fun years ago.

419: How is it that the dance hall is the one place where Eggman’s all-seeing eyes can’t see anything so that Sally would tell Sonic the plan here?

420: A very pervasive problem with the story is that despite Sonic being suddenly sucked into another dimension, he acts as if he belongs in there and isn’t confused at all, not recognizing Sally when he sees Ms. Acorn and knowing all about the world. Is this not Sonic? But it’s said that Sonic DID fall into the other dimension in the next story. It’s not explained what this detective Sonic IS.

421: Ms. Acorn doesn’t tell Sonic that Nicole’s a computer of hers, for no reason,

422: so how does she expect him to find her? That’s a huge oversight on her part, and she’s not an idiot. She’s a clever seductress.

423: Why does Sonic not immediately figure that the black liquid is oil?

424: Chuck magically can track four robots despite not having put a tracking device in any of them, being really distant from them and all.

425: Eggman has a control range in the city, when he should logically be ruling the ENTIRE city, or at least the majority of it, if he can gain control of any of it.

426: How could he think any info about the plans to all of Eggman’s research facilities would destroy him if it got out?

427: How did Sonic not immediately recognize Ms. Acorn as the princess? She’d be famous. 10.

428: “First Contact” by Bollers: “ As I’m sure you all know.. “ Sally says this, but still recaps. And Sally not only recaps Robotnik’s defeat, but she also recaps the Mecha Madness story arc. Why would she waste all that time telling them about this in the communication instead of INSTANTLY cutting to the point, warning them to stay away from zone portals?

429: When Sally’s communications with all the other Freedom Fighters across the world are interrupted for no reason,

430: she doesn’t immediately try to start up the call again.

431: Why the hell didn’t she go to Robotropolis to see the damage done to their former capital, as soon as POSSIBLE, rather than saying she’ll go there tomorrow morning? She’s no procrastinator slacker! She wanted this her whole life! This forces the concept of issue 51 even happening at all. 4.

432: Issue 53 “Sounds Of Silence” by Bollers: Eggman’s old laboratory is a separate building from his main base. Wouldn’t it be inconvenient having to constantly go back and forth between two buildings? It’s like the base for Team Galactic.

433: What pressure should Sally be feeling when it’s the king ruling the kingdom instead of her? He’s the one giving her the orders. Plus, she’s been in charge of Knothole, a whole village, for the whole comic until the king showed up. How many Robians were deroboticized and brought to Knothole before this? She didn’t feel extra pressure from having to rule over them! Or did she?

434: Why is Geoffrey wearing a brown cloak with a necklace all of a sudden?

435: And why is nobody questioning, him on it? “ What are you WEARING? “

436: It’s Sonic and not Sally the cautious one who isn’t sure that sending the probe into the zone is a safe idea.

437: After Sonic asks this, there’s somehow two explosions near them that interrupts Geoffrey from asking what’s the matter with it, even though Ixis is FAR away.

438: Ixis doesn’t immediately try to hit Sonic with lightning again right after he speaks out of turn for the second time. Sonic even gets to say a whole bunch of stuff after that.

439: Sally asks “ How is that possible? “ about a wand turning objects into crystal. It’s a WAND! How do you THINK?

440: I don’t understand why the probe would release Fake Ixis, and Uma and Kodos. What, did they grab onto it and get carried out of the portal?! Wouldn’t they weigh the little thing down too much? The probe went into the zone, but it wasn’t on the way OUT of it, it wouldn’t lead them to a portal out of there because that wasn’t its flight path. It had no reason to go back through the portal when it was sending camera footage to Rotor without needing to be outside of the Zone of Silence. And nobody would sabotage the probe to make this happen, and even if they did want to, they wouldn’t know how. Remember, Geoffrey was never intended to be on Ixis’ side the whole time. That’s why when his arrow missed Kodos, he thought, ” Blast it! ” when his success would anger Ixis into being done with him, and telling everyone he was his student.

441: Why would Ixis let the king keep his status as a king if he was his leader (remember, the king was treated like a king by his frog subjects)?

442: Somehow Sonic knows that Ixis’ wand only affects inanimate objects. Then, how did he crystallize Kodos, Uma and Max successfully USING said wand? This is supposed to be why he knew to destroy the wand and that would get rid of Fake Ixis. He should’ve just assumed Ixis had bad aim and that’s why he kept missing with his lightning. 11.

443: Issue 54 “Running to Stand Still” by Bollers: They’re seriously having Tails not know what sarcastic means? He’s spending all his time with Chuck doing an experiment, and yet he’s not a genius yet.

444: Somehow Chuck doesn’t know what’s ” eating at ” Sonic! How is he assuming that Sonic got over keeping his parents a secret from him?! Sonic asked him earlier, ” How could you keep this from me? ” Normally he’s surprisingly smart! It’s like he feels like keeping his parents a secret from him and being called out on it by Sonic was just another Tuesday for him, so he didn’t find it memorable somehow.

445: If the king’s the one in charge, how is Sally making an order to have a policeman at every street corner to protect the Robians from mobs? ” The king ” hates Robians. She has to be going behind his back here, but he would find out. Apparently she’s willing to risk that. And the Egg-Robos are looking for Ixis to be their new master. Huh? How? They never met Ixis and neither did Snively. Did he tell them through that thumb thing he was lucky to have just in case?

446: How are all the prisoners in the Devil’s Gulag still wearing their old clothes instead of being in prison uniforms, forever unable to get their clothes back? 5.

447: Issue 55 “Monkey Madness” by Frank Strom: When Sonic finds the Egg-Robos, he stops and hides instead of instantly destroying them with his spindash.

448: The Eggbots must have inexplicably terrible hearing to not hear Sonic’s conversation right behind them.

449: Nicole uses her bullshit powers to unlock Khan from the crypt she never saw anything like before on the same hour she saw it.

450: How did Khan not only know that he was in the crypt for 10 years,

451: but also survive the whole time? He’s not in a stasis tube, so how’d he get nourishment and water,

452: Shouldn’t he be insane by now from years of solitary confinement?

453: Sally immediately gets worried, thinking she made a mistake saving Khan, when all she learned was that Khan was locked away by Robotnik since he couldn’t control him. Just because he’s a cyborg, like her friend, she doesn’t trust him at all. She’s forced to be right in her paranoid assumption because Khan acts evil afterwards. This new writer really likes her, this is a Creator’s Pet Moment for her.

454: The Ring randomly decides to float up to Khan’s head and land on it to make him more powerful.

455: Khan wants wrath on the world, not just Eggman, and talks like an evil villain.

456: Why didn’t Khan get infatuated with Sally the minute she freed him if he fell for her at first sight the SECOND time he saw her?

457: Antoine acts like this is all Sonic’s fault for trying to oppose a villain threatening Mobius, rather than Sally and Nicole’s fault for releasing him. Creator’s Pet moment for Sally there.

458: Even though Sonic easily defeats an Egg-Robo slamming it into a tree, he still backs away at the edge of a cliff from a bunch of Egg-Robos and acts like he needs saving, all to give Khan an excuse to be the one to save him. 12.

459: Issue 55 “Rise of the Robians” by Bollers: Good thing Chuck happened to have flash grenades on hand for no reason. Apparently he’s so prepared he ALWAYS has them when he’d think he’d no longer need them without Robotnik.

460: The Robians are called losers and puppets for once being brainwashed by Robotnik and that’s their excuse for not trusting them when they clearly DID get their free will back. I don’t believe the mob would be THAT rude to them for being brainwashed by Robotnik. It wasn’t their fault.

461: I thought King Max wasn’t able to walk from being crystallized. Now he can walk around just fine. 3.

462: Issue 56 “Immortality Is Forever – Life Is Finite” by Kent Taylor: It’s convenient that Athair knew that the heroes would be sent to this specific place so that he knows where to go and what to do to help them against Mogul, who he also knows about now. I guess he got told this by the psychic Ancient Walkers, but that’s never explained. More importantly, for no reason the genius Mogul dismisses all the other heroes as useless to him, even Bunnie the cyborg. He’d have won if he used them all.

463: Mogul should stop using magic against the heroes here if all they’re doing is absorbing his power to get stronger from it. He’s supposed to be a genius, but he’s an idiot in his biggest moment.

464: Why didn’t Mogul brainwash Sonic, Tails and Knuckles like he had originally planned instead of trying to kill them when they came back?!

465: Why did that emerald shatter right next to Mogul just to fuse with him and make him immortal in the first place?

466: How did Tails have a Chaos Syphon to use against Mogul?! That’s some Deus ex Machina! No one here nor the Walkers can make that.

467: I’m not sure how Locke and Sabre are still able to watch Mogul through a camera even at this point. The sky looks different, so it looks like they’re in another dimension entirely. But I guess it really is Angel Island still. More importantly, Locke and Sabre talk as if Mogul’s power – from tons of Emeralds and millennia of experience with chaos energy – is nothing compared to the complete mastery of ONE Chaos Emerald. What? They talk as if Dimitri and Mogul haven’t become masters of magic, even though Mogul is very old and Dimitri even created a mountain with his power. 6.

468: Sonic Super Special Issue 4 “Return of the King “ by Bollers: Why would Chuck think that Sonic and the other heroes told the king to dismantle every Robian? This is the same guy that believed Sonic’s innocence in Issue 47’s arc.

469: Why does Chuck hesitate for even a second to believe Sonic?

470: How did Ixis know about Sonic’s trust issues with Chuck when he was impersonating Sonic? Why would anyone tell the king about Sonic’s trust issues with Chuck so he’d know? Chuck and his family wouldn’t tell anyone about that and nor would Tails. Then Ixis jumps off a cliff, rather than bothering to FIGHT SONIC with his ELEMENTAL POWERS, even though he does try to do that in Issue 224, but that’s because the Council of Acorns was there so he knew he could get them to tell Sonic to stop fighting anyways.

471: Why would the king assume that he’s permanently crystallized? There’s magical stuff all over the place and technology. 4.

472: Issue 57 “Back To Basics” by Bollers: Even though Robotnik made the Recap Machine to show the future, it somehow does the exact opposite and shows the past.

473: I’m not sure why Sally thought the recap machine was dangerous to use, since she didn’t explain herself at all. Robotnik made it with the assumption only he would use it, so it wasn’t a trap for Sonic, and if it was going to blow up later after being used it would’ve already blown up, so she has to be under the assumption that somehow he never got the chance to use it enough. That’s an unlikely assumption.

474: There’s no way the heroes would all put up with their entire lives being recapped by a machine without stopping the recap early out of boredom.

475: Sonic shouldn’t be the only one reminiscing. It makes it look awkward and stilted because he’s just talking without interacting with his friends. So I assume they’re bored.

476: Sonic says that the worst day of his life was when he lost his super speed and NOT when he was court-martialed after being roboticized.

477: He even snickers talking about that time making a pun.

478: There’s no way Sonic would correctly predict that the machine would explode when it catches up to present day with its recap just because it became weird, when he thought it was safe. Maybe his Rings would’ve protected him anyways because he’s survived an exploding Combot before. So this wouldn’t have made the ensuing arc impossible. Either way he still would’ve taken it off his head and put it down away from him because it stopped recapping the past for him. Maybe it wouldn’t have hurt him anyways. 7.

479: Issue 59 “Opposites Detract” by Gallagher: Al and Cal are so powerful and yet Sonic and Tails survived the blast, just being dazed. I guess they had Rings. But Rings are visible in Archie and we don’t see them with any, although it was stated Sonic’s billionth Ring was in his aura and that protected his consciousness and it couldn’t be seen, so Rings can be invisibly in auras. Sonic did survive a Combot exploding right beside him without injury. Anyways, the Ultimate Annihilator, which they know about by name for some reason,

480: decimated their zone back to a sub-atomic level, despite being from another zone when all it was established to do to other zones was weaken the barriers between zones.

481: and yet their zone came back

482: along with them,

483: with Al and Cal as single-celled organisms.

484: WHY were Al and Cal transformed into giant powerful robots?

485: Why did Al and Cal start warring with each other? Why would they ever blame each other for the zone’s destruction if they know the Ultimate Annihilator did it?

486: Tails snaps out of the brainwashing remembering that Sonic is supposed to be his friend just when Sonic’s trying to kill him,

487: and Sonic, just because he’s told they’re friends, is magically cured of the brainwashing and they go back to normal. Al and Cal’s brainwashing would be way more powerful than that.

488: If their friendship was strong enough to break past the brainwashing, how were they ever brainwashed against each other in the first place?

489: Why does Tails think that Al and Cal have to be friends to keep physical laws in this zone, that supposedly NEVER had laws of physics? 11.

490: Issue 60 “Arsenal of the Iron King” by Frank Strom: Why aren’t they flying the biplane that they found last time? Why’d they go on with their journey without it, with no direction in their Ixis chasing?

491: The Iron King not destroying the Fen Fan for no reason is the whole reason the heroes were able to win against him and the queen instead of having to retreat, because they were able to find it in his arsenal.

492: The Iron Queen is idealistic enough to assume Sonic and Tails are going to help her for no reason, which makes no sense of her with her tragic backstory.

493: The Iron Queen doesn’t even notice that it was Tails who broke her wand and freed Khan from her control, not Sonic. Tails did it in front of her.

494: Khan tags along to the Iron King’s fortress anyways despite being cautious about it from being brainwashed before.

495: Sonic doesn’t immediately search the whole arsenal at the speed of sound to find the Fan instantly.

496: Mere wind puts out the fire of the eternally blazing volcano, when it’s not a fire extinguisher, so the fire should be spread by that wind.

497: The Iron Queen just leaves instead of brainwashing Khan again with her innate powers.

498: Somehow Khan learned about the prophecy of the fan BEFORE learning about the prophecy about HIMSELF. 9.

499: Issue 61 “Outback Gut Check” by Gallagher: Sonic calls his enemies flat-tailed freaks. That was such bad dialogue that I wondered if this was a fake Sonic.

500: It gets explained why Bill the Platypus was made to stop the destruction of the Downunda prison camp, but how did he convince an army of non-brainwashed platypuses to do that?

501: Tails somehow figures out he has to spin his tails to propel a boat

502: from Sonic saying the nonsensical, “ you prop while I buzz the perimeter. “

503: Sonic out of nowhere can form a protective shield of water by spindashing on the water, telekinetically moving the water, without a Chaos Emerald. Wouldn’t he be so fast that he’d quickly go away from the raft? But he doesn’t.

504: Bill doubts the existence of the Bunyip when he saw Crocbot already damaged by it and talking about it by name. 6.

505: Issue 61 “Total Turbulence” by Bollers: Despite a cloud shaped like Ixis, Sonic doesn’t instantly realize who he is and thinks that it’s natural turbulence. 1.

506: Issue 62 “Icon” by Bollers: Jack says once “ Sonic “ beat Robotnik, the Sandblasters were inspired to make the same move and it worked! First off, Snively was the one who beat Robotnik. Sonic just fought with Robotnik pointlessly and then he vanished. I guess everyone spread the fake news that Sonic killed Robotnik, but there’s no way Sonic would be okay with one, the hollow lie about his accomplishment, and two, news being spread that he’s a murderer.

507: Sonic creates a sand tornado when he’s just standing there, and floating in it. Fine, he’s a magic hedgehog.

508: Tails talks as if the Robians aren’t acting like they’re under someone’s control when they are being evil.

509: Sonic’s stunned instead of smiling and happy at seeing a giant statue of himself. He’s supposed to have an ego! Gallagher Sonic from the oldest issues would’ve loved this.

510: The criminals assume Snively was the one who freed everyone from their cells, when all he did was drop a nail file, which he could have done much earlier,

511: and yet they don’t ask what took him so long. If he had rigged a nail file to do that, he shouldn’t have still had that, or had the tools and resources to make it able to do that. They should know that. I assumed it was Snively at first too, though, so this makes sense. 6.

512: Issue 63 “Icon II – Cult Of Personality” by Bollers: Despite the criminals all hating Snively and Drago even laughing at him, they make Snively their leader.Snively was the assistant to Robotnik the most hated man on the planet. Their lives were just as inconvenienced by Robotnik as everyone else, why would they not beat him up? It’s a prison break, it’s every man for himself! Why would they think that Snively was the smartest person in the room and therefore the best leader when Snively was stupid enough to think that Robotnik would be a good boss?

513: Despite Jack ordering his thugs not to hurt Sonic, saying, ” DON’T HURT HIM! ” some of them go after Sonic with sharp weapons.

514: Someone among the criminals is able to fly an airship to escape the prison with no pilot training. 3.

515: Sonic Super Special Issue 5 “When You and I Were Young, Sally” by Gallagher: Rotor conveniently has a Sextant (a thing that triangulates based on the locations of stars), which lets them somehow find out where Tails landed. How does he have it NOW? I guess he bought it somewhere even in Ruled by Robotnik time. But why does he have it with him right now? They only planned on playing just outside Rosie’s, not going on an adventure far away.

516: If Rotor had the idea to make Nicole that early on, why didn’t he make her long before she showed up in the stable time loop?

517: Rotor should’ve realized a future Rotor had made Nicole since who else but HIM had the idea for a handheld computer named Nicole? Meeting Nicole would’ve reminded him he said this line in the story.

518: Why is the grass around the Great Oak Stump unstable so the heroes can fall into the cave below?

519: How was the grass still there then on such bad ground?

520: Rotor thinks that Boomer’s Bombers is a good name for a heroic group of friends.

521: Nobody tells Rotor why his name for that group sucked.

522: Sonic says that the name Freedom Fighters is too extreme and not Rotor’s name. Plus, he already heard the name Freedom Fighters, the original Freedom Fighters! Not that you could tell.

523: Tails should be used to Antoine’s accent by now and know he won’t give it up, not say, “ Not Fightairs, Fighters! “ If he talks like this because he’s too young to be that polite, he would’ve told Rotor why his idea of a name for their group wasn’t heroic-sounding. 9.

524: Sonic Super Special Issue 5 “Stop… Sonic Time!” by Tom Rolston: Rotor got nothing but C’s and D’s at school. Obviously he’s supposed to be smart, as he’s a fast learner, AND he’s not lazy either if he could invent stuff at a young age which would take hard work to memorize.

525: If Merlin is around to give Sonic a gift for Tails in Robotropolis, why didn’t he stick around to raise Tails that whole time, or at least visit him?! He’s able to want to give him a gift, he doesn’t assume he’s too poorly behaved to deserve it.

526: Crabmeat doesn’t snitch on Snively saying Robotnik’s only the boss “ for now. “ But he felt shocked at Robotnik breaking his own rule earlier.

527: Snively is acting treacherous back then when he was only treacherous after Sonic’s Quest after he spent days trapped on Robotnik’s back.

528: How did Snively get frozen in time? The machine of time freezing was already destroyed and he was far away from it.

529: Sonic didn’t notice the kids he was telling the story to fell asleep until the last minute.

530: And it’s weird that they even fell asleep at all. SONIC was telling them a story! 7.

531: Sonic Super Special Issue 5 “Total Re-Genesis” by Bollers: Nicole somehow was using a satellite camera to record the heroes’ mission, but it’d be from so far above them that there’s no way she’d be able to show them what they were doing, as the video footage would just be a video of dots attacking other dots.

532: And everyone should’ve known that and not bothered. 2.

533: Issue 64 “The Naugus Trilogy: In Search Of… – Part One” by Bollers: When the biplane flew into the cold air, the Ring that let it fly choked out. Huh? Some magic Ring.

534: The avalanche should’ve crushed everyone involved, logically. Rings don’t protect you from crushing. 2.

535: Issue 65 “The Naugus Trilogy: The Fellow Of The Rings… – Part Two” by Bollers: How’d Ixis get into a castle that was enchanted against mages? The castle should’ve worked so that it would detect Ixis and his magic in the fire, and keep him out regardless.

536: How would the castle’s mystic wards even know which mage is evil and should be kept out? Sonic and Tails have magic powers too. They should not be here.

537: When the explosion happened in the past, only Nate was arrested, even though Robotnik was his assistant, and Nate’s defense lawyer should’ve made that fact clear. Robotnik should’ve been held at least equally responsible for the Ring disaster and been banished from Overland earlier and not met Chuck and been brought to the king to be hired.

538: The Rings are a 5th element of nature? How? They were created by a person! Other ones only exist because of the Ancient Walkers also making them.

539: Nate can make Rings. Why were any of the Rings we saw before him where they were?

540: Kodos and Nate were the only survivors of the skirmish, somehow. Nate can’t fight, how’d he survive it? If Kodos hated him so much, why didn’t he kill him HIMSELF and blame the Overlanders? He’d know he’d be believed.

541: How the hell did the Overlanders not know where the Acorn Kingdom was? You can’t hide a kingdom! Megaopolis is advanced, it’d have satellites, cameras, helicopters! It’s later revealed that the Overlanders left the planet in spaceships, and yet they couldn’t find the Acorn Kingdom?

542: Why didn’t Nate decide to live in Knothole’s base instead after he discovered it?

543: Instead of simply hiding better his Ring-Forge, he dropped it into the Lake of Rings.

544: Good thing it turned out to be waterproof! He had no reason to waterproof it.

545: The Days of Fury, which were formerly established to only be about crazy weather and lava, also decide to mutate people to make Eddy, which has nothing to do with weather and lava. (It can’t be the gene bombs because that wasn’t established yet and that was a very long time ago, so that’d be implying Eddy was like a thousand years old, and so was the giant squid cyborg.)

546: WHY did Nate make millions of Rings in his castle?! That’s just a stupid excuse for Ixis to come here and everyone to meet Nate. He got rid of the Ring Forge, why did he make another one if he have no intention of using Rings or letting others use them? 12.

547: Issue 66 “The Naugus Trilogy: The Fellow Of The Rings A Friend In Deed” by Bollers: Nate refuses to let Sonic and Tails use the Rings even though he could do good with them, like help stop Ixis.

548: Nate thinks being a hero never works. Really, so giving Mobotropolis technology didn’t work?

549: Again, the mystic wards keep mages out, so it should’ve detected Ixis’ magic and kept him out regardless of whether he possessed the wall or not.

550: Why does Ixis have to write arcane symbols for his magic? That’s arbitrary of HIS magic and no other Sonic character needs to do this to use THEIR powers.

551: How did Ixis “ accidentally “ create a portal to the Zone of Silence to discover it in order to do that in this story? He did that on purpose when we see him go in there in the Tales of the Great War, so he must have done it by accident once before that point offscreen.

552: Ixis shouldn’t have been able to transform anything into crystal from the inside out, as he’s about elemental magic. He doesn’t have power over the chemicals making them up to transform their cellular structures. Covering them with crystals, sure, but transforming them to control them?

553: Nate wishes Ixis away with a single Ring. Then why did only he think of that? Why did the fight happen?

554: If Ixis is more powerful in the Zone of Silence, why didn’t he rip another hole in reality and warp right back to Nate?

555: An avalanche sends Sonic, Tails and Nate on a friendly little ride rather than crushing them. 9.

556: “And Then There Was One”: If the Order of Ixis weren’t real friends and were constantly bickering and conspired selfishly, how did they stay friends this long instead of becoming enemies a long time ago?

557: Ixis flew into the sun and yet he still has an organic body afterwards, albeit a new one with no wings.

558: When Ixis shows up to King Acorn with an evil smirk, they somehow trusted him to be their royal wizard instead of just lying that they’ll hire him and then sending someone to knife him in his sleep at 2 AM. A normal bodyguard would do just as well as Ixis! Them trusting him explains why they don’t look scared of him, just surprised.

559: I guess he was so powerful that they couldn’t say no, but they had Merlin around already, right? Did he lose to Ixis and survive somehow? 4.