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I just finished all of interview with the vampire and i love both claudias pass it on
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Just want to remind everyone that loustat had their 1st time on Valentines Day. Lestat the last romantic 🤭
#loustat#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#interview with the vampire#iwtv#they spent valentine’s eve/day together LORD😭🥰#not only lestat is the last romantic but also Rolin and the rest of the crew that thought about this details 🤭#someone needs to ask to Rolin if this was intentional#and mention this to jam cause i wanna heard if they knew and what are they thoughts about this theory#this is my fav fandom theory#the attention to details in this show just kills me#so sad that a lot of people on this fandom don't know how to appreciate this show especially#the ones obsessed in making Lestat the ultimate villain of the story to the point they ignore louis being part of the problem too#most of the times they dont undertand the show so they have a bunch of bad takes and are always fighting for the most stupid things#unfortunately i have to agree with the critics when they say this is a “prestige show with an CW audience” 😭
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forever obsessed with dynamics between vampires, specifically that of a maker and fledgling, as a way to explore abuse. the creation of a vampire itself can so easily be a literalization of the lasting impacts of trauma and also much more simply the ways a perpetrator might shape their victim’s very identity. the extremes of isolation in the way that the new vampire, in most narratives, must cut all ties to their mortal life, or else go through an elaborate charade to maintain the facade of humanity, while forever still being removed from it. and the sheer dependence and vulnerability of being in an entirely new state of being, wholly uncertain of what it entails, and relying on another person to define… everything.
#or just the moral dilemmas#rewatching amc interview is kind of making me insane#that moment in episode two when louis is looking for a sort of assurance in the fact that lestat may actually have some good in him#look at how he cares about music look at the simple wondrous things that can bring him joy#and then the immediate dread when the opera performance turns out to be imperfect because he knows how lestat will react to *that*#I think there’s also something really interesting in the highlighting of lestat upbraids the less skilled singer before killing him#(slowly)#but also I will wait to watch more before I articulate my thoughts#vampires#interview with the vampire#amc interview with the vampire#I do still find the lestat and claudia film and novel dynamic by far the most compelling for how she tries to usurp him but almost to be him#but I’m enjoying this#I’m very curious if I will like show claudia more on rewatch#the movie always resonated most with me (sue me lol) because there seemed to be more simultaneous fondness and attachment even at the end#dark stories of the north
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Having Devil's Minion thoughts again, and particularly the dynamic between Armand and Daniel in the show.
One of my favorite things about the season finale is this presentation of Armand as The Deceiver to Daniel's Truth Seeker. I love the idea of this being a continuing theme of their relationship moving forward.
Armand's deceptions and manipulations are often his only way of keeping himself safe. He's built them up like protective walls around himself and locked himself inside for so long, I doubt he even knows what the truth is half the time.
And here comes Daniel Molloy, no longer a naive, coked up boy with a tape recorder but a successful journalist who now prides himself on revealing the hardest truths. Daniel Molloy, bulldozer of a human being, who is able to see cracks in Armand's protective walls almost immediately. And he breaks right through the lies about Paris.
But Armand has hundreds of years worth of deceptions and fabrications to shield himself with. And now he's given Daniel the one thing he needed to break through all of those as well: time. And I think on some level Armand knew exactly what he was doing. Because after over 500 years, who even knows what Armand's grasp of truth is and if he would even know it if he saw it.
But Daniel Molloy, dogged pursuer of truth, can guide Armand to it and show him. Because that's what he does. And that's what Armand needs. Along with that old man dick.
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#devil's minion#daniel molloy#assad zaman#eric bogosian#iwtv meta#old man yaoi#the vampire armand#iwtv speculation#i always feel like such a dumbass posting my thoughts like this lol#but i needed to get this out of my head#hope it's coherent
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#iwtv#interview with the vampire#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#loustat#pencil#but with digital additions#thought it was a beautiful pose#the result of copying a still is always a bit boring (to me) but i enjoyed the process#its been a long time since i really got into making a thing#so much you forget you have a body and need to eat etc#:)
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Saw a cool concert the other day~
(Buy me a coffee over on My ko-Fi)
#iwtv#lestat de lioncourt#the vampire lestat#interview with the vampire#sam reid#cesiousblue#I found this wild pose reference and knew it needed to be a lestat concert flier#i think someone dropped it after getting eaten#also weird note but whenever i have had a book signed by a non-american#they always cross out their name on the title page before signing#so i thought Lestat would sign his name over the L in the vampire lestat logo
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“God loves you, but not enough to save you”
#the tragedy of lesdaughter wasn’t that there was no love but the love wasn’t enough to save her#/she looked at me like a child looking at her father/ will always haunt me#even tho she resented him for being there at trial for Louis and apologising to him only but she still looked at him -#and thought maybe he will save her too#I’m that one friend that is always lesdaughterpilled#interview with the vampire#iwtv#lesdaughter#lestat de lioncourt#claudia de lioncourt#Claudia#claudia interview with the vampire#Lestat#ethel cain
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Alice is in her third trimester
I've seen a few comments about Daniel possibly cheating on Alice with Armand and I'm kinda like . . . you're assuming that Daniel or Armand -- who regularly, at least in the books, would be in situations where Armand would sit in a chair and watch Daniel have sex with other people -- would themselves view that as cheating. Because I don't think they would've. (At the very least, not younger Daniel.)
It's been talked about, more than once, about how the vampires in this universe are inherently polyamorous. I don't think Armand would care at all about sharing Daniel with another lover. And Daniel, being entangled with Armand (and quite possibly Louis as well) for so long might have himself become not overly concerned with such a thing.
I think Alice is the only one who would have cared that Daniel was sleeping with someone else (if she ever found out), and would have seen it that way. But I, personally, can see Armand and younger Daniel not caring about that view of things in the slightest . . . particularly because they were the ones who were together initially anyway. And that Daniel probably first ever got together with Alice during one of Daniel's running away periods.
Because the main thing that led to their splits sometimes, i.e. Daniel running away, was because Armand's refusal to make Daniel a vampire. Other than that, though? Nothing else in the relationship between them was a problem, particularly for Daniel. And I think that is going to be true wrt the show's version of events. Still being with his vampire lover, even after he may have gotten married? Don't think it is at all outside of possibility -- or that Daniel would have any guilt about it.
And THAT piece of information -- that the only problem he had with the relationship with Armand is that Armand wouldn't turn him -- is going to be the info that Daniel, in the present, likely won't want to face about himself IMO.
Daniel is clearly accepting of the fact that he was a shit father and a terrible husband. But accepting the possible true reason behind all of that?
I said it last year, and I'll say it again -- the revelation about the Devil's Minion that's going to hit Daniel the hardest is very likely going to be the one that reveals he has ZERO moral high ground when it comes to these vampires.
At the moment, Daniel can tell himself that he asked Louis for the Dark Gift because he thought Louis was wasting it. But that excuse is not going to work when it comes to the years and years he asked and wanted Armand to turn him.
That Armand refused to break his vow to never bring another into The Blood -- that is what ended up being what drove them apart. Not any moral conscious Daniel ever had, or grew, about being with Armand at all. Not even whatever transpired regarding Daniel and Alice (and Daniel getting her pregnant likely not just once, but twice, never mind marrying her.)
If Armand had decided to break his vow back then, then IMO, Daniel would have accepted. Alice or no Alice. Kids or no kids. Because while Daniel in the present has nice, even sincerely heartfelt memories about Alice? His past self was clearly emotionally checked out of whatever relationship he had with her by the time of that pregnancy announcement in 1985.
1985. The same year when, in the books, Armand finally did break his vow and turn Daniel, on Halloween. And this is what Daniel had to say about it when Armand finally decided to turn him:
"But don't you see," Daniel said, "all human decisions are made like this. Do you think the mother knows what will happen to the child in her womb? Dear God, we are lost, I tell you. What does it matter if you give it to me and it's wrong! There is no wrong! There is only desperation, and I would have it! I want to live forever with you."
As long as Daniel held any knowledge of not only vampires but of Armand specifically, this is what he would think, what he would always want. And that, IMO, is why he was emotionally checked out when Alice announced that pregnancy. Because, at that point in time, he still held the knowledge, of not just vampires, but Armand himself.
And they were still very much entangled with each other at that time IMO. Still lovers.
My theory is that it isn't Daniel kicking his drug habit that had him "getting his shit together." Well, okay, he did kick a drug habit, but the drug in question was actually Armand's blood. Not to mention Armand himself.
And I think that event happened sometime around when Alice was in her third trimester. (Hence, the name of that track listing).
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I'm also beginning to wonder if Armand actually was the one who repressed/blocked Daniel's memories of him, or if it was someone else. No, I don't think Louis was the one who did it, (or Lestat either btw), and Armand doing it does make the most sense, given he clearly is not harboring any happy thoughts about Alice, and Daniel splitting from him for her. But a day or so before the new clip came out, @faerywhimsy made a comment to me about who could have also done it, given a comment I made elsewhere about the timeline length Daniel and Armand were apart, and what book-event that matches up with and well . . . .
That person being the one who took Daniel's memories not only tracks wrt the timeline Armand and Daniel spend apart, but it would also track when it comes to the relationship Armand has with that person too. That's all I'm saying . . .
. . . .
Anyway, yeah. I think it was around Alice's third trimester when Armand and Daniel actually split for good. Which, depending on when she got pregnant could conceivably be around towards the end of 1985. Though, more possibly, go over into 1986. But I think that is why there is actually a track named that when it comes to the score for Season 2. Because that time period became a significant one. The time when Daniel actually "got his shit together."
And maybe why, in the present, he can have such love and loving thoughts about Alice. Because the reasons for his being emotionally checked out were no longer at the forefront of his mind for so long anymore (even if he still ended up being a shitty husband and father still -- with Alice as his ex and his kids not speaking to him -- without them).
#Daniel Molloy#Daniel Malloy#Armand#The Vampire Armand#armandaniel#Interview with the Vampire#amc iwtv#iwtv#iwtv meta#amc interview with the vampire#Armand x Daniel#Daniel x Armand#I think Daniel's relationships with both Armand and Alice are going to overlap for a while#longer than we might think when it comes to the 1980s#and ESPECIALLY if Night Island still happened and for the reasons it even first came into existence in the first place#just some thoughts#I'm prepared to be wrong#but there is clearly something wrt Alice going on#I never thought she was actually Armand and I always was sure she existed#and I DO think some of Daniel's emotional memories of Armand and now mixed with her#but there is something specific going on there wrt her -- and it ties in/with/about Armand I feel sure#and WHO was Daniel's second wife?#interesting how she hasn't been mentioned or anything aside from just knowing Daniel was married twice . . . .
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i thibk hannibal is what youd get if you mixed lestat and armand. on a surface level, hannibal fits the three B's: bisexual blonde bitch. he has a fondness for the opera, a hatred for the impolite, european, charming, and of course loved abigail and will completely and with his whole self, even if it didnt immediately appear that way or wasnt reciprocated. on the other hand, his evil js very seductive, he pursuades people to kill in a real loving and gentle way, in the same way that armand convinced daniel in s2ep5 to accept his death, they are both master manipulators and gaslighters, like when hannibal convinced will he was hallucinating gideon, and i cant stop thinking about the similarities between the hannigram fall at the end of s3 and armand throwing lestat from the tower at the end of tvl.
#i get so nervous to post these thoughts because jm always frightened i misinterpreted something or im very wrong#if i am wrong let me know but dont be mad please ill cry#anyways the similarities between lestat and hannibal are obvious but i believe armand and hannibal are evil in the same way#plus i keep looking ag hannibal and forgiving his sad little cat face#iwtv#interview with the vampire#iwtv spoilers#iwtv s2#amc iwtv s2#iwtv spoiler#lestat de lioncourt#armand iwtv#armand#hannibal 2013#hannibal lecter#hannibal tv show#hannibal nbc#hannibal
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Armand secretly having so much admiration for Maharet and Pandora, YES? Need the show to go even further than the books, make him bond with them and have one or both of these ladies as a mentor/motherish figure
#interview with the vampire#Armand a great judge of character except for the one that groomed when but he was a vulnerable teenager so it's understandable#but he aside from that he always knows who is cool and doesn't fall for bullshit like so many others#and he low-key just loves these ladies and wants to know more of them <3#But I need him to do the action since book Armand just keeps this on his thoughts and misses opportunities#give me Armand and the girls being besties PLEASE#iwtv#the vampire chronicles#anne rice#vampire chronicles#tvc#vc#armand#Pandora#maharet
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That's what I call of method acting 🤭
via louijacobss
If i recall correct this was even the 1st scene they shoot together

#jam reiderson#jacob anderson#sam reid#loustat#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#interview with the vampire#iwtv#Reddit AMA answers#quoting tweets from the link#Louis and Lestat have possessed them#Jacob wasn’t acting at all! And it was his and Sam’s first day of shooting??#Jacob said *gasps* he said in an interview - he said there's nothing *wheeze* more attractive than people *choke* who are passionate about#Jacob is always looking at Sam with heart emoji eyes when Sam speaks and Sam's gaze always drifts to Jacob's lips almost every interview.#not sam nearly losing his train of thought after looking at Jacob. and that lip bite? y’all saw that right??#oh i see i see lots of flickering of the eyes too
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I might be misremembering but it's crazy that real lestat (that we know of) never refers to claudia as "ours", only ever refers to her as Louis' daughter. But dreamstat (AKA louis' imagined version of lestat) refers to her as 'our daughter'. This version of Lestat is both a taunting presence and also a comforting one and in this moment it's clear he's supposed to be comforting- meaning I think that Louis longed to hear Lestat take paternal ownership of Claudia the same way Lestat longed to hear Louis say I love you. Like a "this is it. We're a family. You're my husband and the father of our daughter"
A lot of notable things happened in this episode obviously but this is the one thing I can comprehend at this very moment
#sorry ive BEEN locked in for this specific line of dialouge so i immediantly jumped out at me when i heard it#i have been WAITING for louis to refer to claudia not as his daughter but “our daughter” subtle differences.....#also im sorry jacob anderson sir but i am truly no better than lestat i stared at the frame of louis lying in bed for like 5 minutes#i feel so bad for louis tbh like everything is just... so bad for him. always. but i cant defend him seeing a red flag and running to it#my queen likes crazy dick#i have more thoughts im just overwhelmed. armand being a walking red flag but its hotter like that tbqh#him grabbing santiago..... him bossing the coven around. even him in the promo. you can act docile around lou all you want but ik what u r#iwtv#iwtv spoilers#iwtv season 2#loustat#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#interview with the vampire
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LDPDL. Stalking, staring down and manhandling his men since somewhen after 1877.
#louis de pointe du lac#iwtv#interview with the vampire#my gifs#no this is not an 'ldpdl is a definite top' post cause we don't think in these stereotypical heteronormative categories in this household#but to me as a gay man louis has always been the most attractive when he gets full on predator mode so i needed this#and i thought maybe some of you needed it too#(and yes this originated cause i saw some posts about louis suddenly having to top with armand and i was like: did we watch the same show?)#(mentally still stuck in mary's .. and in the way louis likes to tilt his head back so he can look down on his prey)
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season 1 louis telling his family he dipped from the opera cause he was bored and got hungry & then lestat afterwards calling him on acting like he didn't enjoy the opera when he very much did; season 2 louis telling armand he doesn't want to come to the theatre because he had enough of that back in the states... 35 years and still lying about the theatre to hide how much he loves lestat huh
#interview with the vampire#iwtv meta#louis de pointe du lac#louis/lestat#loustat#also. how different the theatre des vampires is from opera. 'the plays were weird.' he fell asleep while santiago was hamming it up#but at the opera lestat says he was rapt. try all you want louis you are not beating the pretentious intellectual bitch allegations#and it's funny bc tdv's style & structure clearly emerged more directly from commedia; bc that's what lestat was doing at the time#lestat has & would have a taste for both! 'this ain't your kind of music' but lestat gets up and (allegedly) improvs with jelly roll#sam saying he always views playing lestat as a form of clowning#lestat who loves All Theatre indiscriminately (he and armand are ideologically different but personality-wise maybe way too much alike)#but louis' attraction to opera specifically. this High Art (white art) this elite (white) space he is excluded from. I just have Thoughts
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Anyone else seen that Tumblr post about the difference between a coffin and a casket?? I think about that every moment of IWTV
#that post is always on my mind#it makes me irrationally angry when they say the wrong word#there is no reason for inaccuracy tho 😤#amc iwtv#iwtv amc#amc interview with the vampire#iwtv#my musings#iwtv thoughts
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bleh have some ep 1 studies!!!
#after my first rewatch this is still one of the best eps. and always will be. it is immaculate#I started doing these studies before I’d finished the series so I was like ‘I’ll just stick to S1E1 that’s safe’#anyway none of series 1 was safe post series 2#and now I’m looking at all these like ‘now I know so much new information that I cannot un-know’#and every one of these drawings feels different to me now#especially the Lestat ones#new train of thought:#Sam Reid’s face is so much more difficult for me than Jacob’s#so I will be doing more Lestat studies than Louis#which is sad because I want to draw more Louis :(#anyway I’ll get there!#so these aren’t perfect but enjoy my first attempts!#also I’ll get to a point where I draw them how I want. but I’m using their faces as inspiration ya know#new train of thought: I’ll be drawing rockstat soon. he’s all I can think about. so you can look forward to that soon :D#iwtv#interview with the vampire#amc iwtv#in throes of increasing wonder#iwtv fanart#louis de pointe du lac#lestat de lioncourt#lestat fanart#louis fanart#my work
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