#alterhuman AITA

[therian-aita]

aita for biting people?

i bite my friends gently sometimes [as a stim, as a playfight thing, to show affection]. i dont bite hard or enough to like bruise/draw blood /info

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WIBTA if I get my housemate’s homeless girlfriend thrown out?

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Type: Experimental Fiction

Words: 3,903

Summary: A dragon goes to r/AITA for her judgement. The comment section is (mostly) in agreement.

[Part of the Sol System’s Alterhuman Writing Project for NaNoWriMo 2021. If you don’t want to see these posts, block the tag #inkedpaws]

Posted by u/notsosecretlyadragon_ 1 day ago

WIBTA if I get my housemate’s homeless girlfriend thrown out?

[Not the A-hole]

I’m (coralback dragon 25f) living in a multi-species household and subletting with four other people on the lease, including my partner Val (human 24m), his best friend William (werebear 27m), and the two upstairs guys, Jacob (human 26nb) and Keith (human? 29m).

My partner and I will have been living here for three years this December when lease renewal comes around. While we’ve knocked heads with a few of the previous housemates, we’ve never had any actually serious problems—nothing that couldn’t be resolved either by talking it out or ignoring it. But something changed a few months ago when Keith’s longtime girlfriend entered the picture, Jessica (human? 20-ishf).

Jessica is…how do I describe her. She’s like the human incarnation of nails on a chalkboard. She’s like the vibe equivalency of sticking your hands in a dishpit’s after-dinner rush “soup” because something is blocking the drain. She somehow manages to, without fail, make everyone in a room completely uncomfortable and thrown off just by her presence alone, forget when she actually tries to ham-fistedly and uncomfortably interact with someone. I have never met anyone, in my entire life, who has this superpower.

A few months ago, Jessica started hanging around the house more. And more. And more. What started out as her bumming around one or two days a week eventually switched into her full-fledged living at our house 24/7. I’m not a hardass, so I really didn’t care when she was visiting for a few days out of the week, but her actually living here brought a whole new set of problems.

First off, Keith and Jessica didn’t tell any of the rest of us that Jessica would be moving in and living here. So for a month or so, I was just confused and uncomfortable for the fact that she was always around and always in our shared living room or kitchen. When I finally politely inquired as to whether Jessica was living here and if she had plans to live here for the foreseeable future, she confirmed that yes, she was, and yes, she did.

Myself and the other roommates were baffled (and upset) that neither of them had told us of the situation, but I put on my big dragon pants and took the metaphorical bull by the horns, at least as much as I could stand to—since none of us were just going to kick out the new surprise addition and she was living in Keith’s room technically so it wasn’t exactly wholly our place to tell her to GTFO yet, I got Jessica added into the household group chat to keep her updated on important info and situations and gave her the landlord’s number to get her added to the lease formally at its renewal in a few months, so she would have secure tenant rights. I told her she’d be expected to pick up her share of utilities and she rattled off some canned reply about needing to find a job, which wasn’t entirely inspiring, but I don’t handle any of the utility bills so I didn’t bother to press it much beyond that.

And then it started coming to light just how not only weird Jessica is, but how absolutely intolerable she is to live with. She’s done so many inappropriate things over the course of the last few months that I’m about ready to tear my scales off from frustration. Here’s some of the stuff in particular that’s been driving me to the edge:

- I’m in a human-dragon relationship as well as a several long distance dragon-dragon relationship. I’m bisexual and polyamorous, with all of my partners being aware of each other. With that said, I’m also demisexual—I don’t/can’t have a romantic or sexual interest in someone until I’ve known them for a few years at minimum. Jessica has flirted with me multiple times when I’ve been minding my own business in the kitchen and living room while she happens to be in there, telling me that my scales are “beautiful” and that I’m “hot for a dragon.” This is uncomfortable for just so many reasons, one of which being that I don’t like her like that and another being that I’m 99% sure she’s in a monogamous relationship herself, and Keith would be hurt if he found out she was flirting with others. Also, I think she’s fetishizing my species and it’s just eugh.

- She uses our things without asking. I know for sure she’s using our kitchenware because she said as much in a one-sided conversation where she talked at me while I was making dinner, about using our woks; my emergency detergent pods have also been going missing, and ten of William’s dozen eggs went missing by the time he opened the box a week after. William, Val, and I all budget and plan our meals together for efficiency and we tend to go pretty egg-heavy on protein for Val, and fish-heavy on protein for myself and William. Food theft was never an issue before Jessica showed up.

- SHE JUMPED OFF MY ROOF. She invites her friends over to the house a lot and a few weeks ago my partner and I heard a knock at our bedroom door. It was late evening, so we were surprised to see Jessica’s friend there when we opened, and she explained that she needed a first aid kit because Jessica had jumped from the roof and had several bad cuts. We gave her our kit—Val’s family is filled with Dr.’s and medical professionals, so they’ve always been big on having emergency supplies handy—but strongly recommended she take Jessica to the hospital if she was bleeding badly. Her friend also asked us for flour or cornstarch to stop the bleeding which isn’t bad, just…weird. So weird. This isn’t fucking Warrior Cats, you know? I’m worried that this is demonstrative of behavior that’s going to either end up with Jessica hospitalized (and us potentially on the hook for medical bills, since she got hurt on our property), or with parts of the house that are expensive to get fixed fucked up (like THE FUCKING ROOF).

- She lets stray cats into the house regularly! And a stray dog once! I love animals as much as the next person, but one of our housemates, Jacob, has an old, declawed cat he’d adopted from a shelter. She can’t defend herself because her last owner had her claws removed and she’s already 13, so if she got hurt by some of the strays that Jessica keeps letting in or if she catches something serious from them, we’re worried she won’t make it or might have her QOL reduced. She may not be me and Val’s cat, but she’s loved by the whole house for the loud old lady she is. I’m also just worried about disease transmission and fleas in general with this. I’m lucky in that I don’t have to worry about fleas because of my scales (I have to keep an eye out for mites instead), but I know that Val and especially William would have a shit time if we ended up getting fleas in the house.

- She’s mixed her clothing in with mine while I run loads in the washing machine. I’ve started a load, walked away to do my own thing, come back over to move everything to the dryer, and found her human clothes all mixed up with mine. Then I have to spend 20 minutes picking them out from the pile, usually while I fume about how I’m using my nice, special detergent and she’s piggybacking off that and also just being a rude weirdo in general.

- She got paint all over my bathroom and I think she’s been using my shower and nice soaps when I’m not home. She considers herself an artist and when she’s painting in the living room, she uses my and Val’s bathroom because it’s the closest to wash her supplies. She’s gotten paint on the lightswitch, the walls, the door, the sink…and she never bothers to wash up after herself. I don’t have proof for the shower one, but it’s something I strongly suspect. I have special scale-skin fall scented soap for me and Val to share, and we’ve been going through it way faster than we should have. I also think I caught a whiff of it on Jessica the last time she walked by me.

- Someone left our nice knives scattered in the bathrooms and living room. Jessica says it wasn’t her. I call bullshit, because literally no one else would do that. I don’t think Keith even knows what a fork is, forget a knife. The dude’s a slob who doesn’t cook.

These are all specific incidents of things. She also has a tic where she nonstop makes popping noises with her mouth and snaps her fingers and talks to herself, she doesn’t pay her share of utilities, and she parks like a fucking asshole in front of the house, usually taking up spots meant for actual residences and forcing us to park several blocks away.

But here’s the part where I might be the asshole. Reddit, I want this girl GONE. I want her out of my house and out of my life. Lease renewal came and went and she’s not locked in. I don’t want to be on the hook for any of her dumb bullshit, financially (her share of utilities) nor legally (if she gets caught in our house smoking weed like she likes to do, or breaking our roof, or anything else).

The thing is, I’ve talked it over with Val and William and Jacob: while we’re all in agreement that she needs to go, we’re all pretty sure she’s entirely homeless and has nowhere else to go. If we kick her out, we might be kicking her out onto the cold, hard street and I don’t think any of us are comfortable with that. We want to approach her with a reaffirmation of household boundaries, but I’m personally also pretty sure that she’s not going to listen or care. If someone feels comfortable crashing in a house without telling 4 of the 5 occupants, how can we expect them to respect those occupant’s wishes when they didn’t bother to ask about them in the first place?

I’ve combed over our lease and there’s nothing in it that says she can’t be here that I could use to get rid of her justifiably. There’s no clauses about non-tenants living on the property. So if we did this, it would be wholly my, Val’s, William’s and Jacob’s decision without any legal justification, with me being the main pushing force because, for some reason, I seem to be the one she fucks with personally the most.

I was homeless throughout college getting my Bachelor’s, so I know how rough it can be. Those four years were some of the most stressful of my life and I’d never wish it on anyone. But I can’t handle this anymore: if she doesn’t change her act, I am very seriously going to try and get her removed from the property and tell her she’s no longer able to live there. Even if I have to bring the police or landlords into it myself. WIBTA?

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Housemate’s GF has been driving me up the wall and doing inappropriate things, but if I help kick her out then she might be on the streets. On one hand she’s her own person and not my responsibility, on the other hand I don’t know if it’s fair to prioritize my/my housemate’s comfort over her safety.

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jhonnybravosasscheeks · 23h

NTA – What the fuck? That’s so many red flags right there…

OP, I think you’re a good person for worrying about this stranger’s well-being, but she’s stealing your food and I’d say even putting you and the other residents in danger with the strays situation. Especially if she were to let in a dog with rabies or that otherwise attacked someone or your all’s cat… she crossed the line there for sure. Throw her out ASAP.

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gently-caresses-dongers · 14h

Also the fact that Jessica seems to be using OP’s house like a playground is another red flag to me. It’s not her home to wreck but she’s throwing paint onto things and fucking with their dishes, and that’s just the thing OP has noticed. There’s no telling what Jessica might be doing to the other housemate’s stuff. And inviting friends over when it’s not even your place is rude. If she wants to hang out with her friends then can’t she hang out with them at their places or at a local park or library or something?

I don’t even know where to start with the flirting bit. No shame to dragonfuckers ofc, it’s just that I don’t think this girl understands boundaries or consent.

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DROCTOGONAPUSBLAHHH_ · 14h

Love the fact that /u/gently-caresses-dongers feels so strongly about boundaries and consent.

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gently-caresses-dongers · 13h

I only caress dongers with permission, as we all should.

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mouse-wearing-jorts · 23h

There’s a LOT going on here. I’m definitely gonna go with NTA for this one, seriously I would have thrown her out as soon as I realized she was living in the house without everyone’s okay. It’s one thing to set someone up for a few nights or weeks, but this has been going on for months right? And she has no plans to leave from the sounds of it.

You can’t make major changes like that in a shared home. I’m trying to imagine why her bf felt like it was okay to move someone in without discussing it with anyone first and I just can’t wrap my head around it. I’m honestly amazed you’ve tolerated her up to this point, she sounds like a nightmare. You and your housemates should definitely call your landlord.

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Hungeee1223 · 1d

INFO: Have you reached out to Keith to talk this over with him? Is he aware of how Jessica is acting?

IANAL but if she’s lived there for long enough you might not be able to throw her out, check your state/county/local laws first.

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notsosecretlyadragon_ [OP] · 23h

There’s an issue communicating anything to Keith. He’s rarely every home and almost completely ignores the group chat, even on occasions where we ping him or message him directly.

I have to assume he knows what Jessica is doing because on the rare occasions he does acknowledge the chat, it’s usually in cases where someone comments something that Jessica has done and asks “everyone” to refrain from doing that, to avoid singling her out or making her feel attacked. And he denies that it’s a problem or says it wasn’t him and Jessica.

I’d confront him face to face, but I’m working as a grill master at a local brewery and am pulling 60+ hours a week because of snowbird season. Meat grilled by dragon breath is all the rage with the tourists, so management has been leaning on me really hard this last month. I don’t have the energy when I get home to do much else but shower, eat, and sleep, and he’s almost never there when I’m home anyways.

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OfficialPikachuRepresentative · 19h

Honestly OP, if at all possible I’d look into getting rid of the bf too. Kind of concerning that he’s invited someone else to live in the house and didn’t talk to anyone about it. Makes me kind of wonder if he’s been doing other stuff like that and just hasn’t bothered asking before.

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7QUBERT7 · 1d

NTA, but you YWBTA if you don’t at least talk to her/her bf first. They are for sure AH, but you should still try to talk things over first, especially if the gf has nowhere else to go. Also it sounds like the gf might have some weird stuff going on from everything you said. People don’t jump from the roofs of multi-storied houses for no reason.

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cloversingalong · 23h

NTA, at this point her getting kicked out would just be her reaping what she’s sown.

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Karma_Wolf · 23h

Well, well, well. If it isn’t the consequences of my own actions.

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skyrimspeshul · 23h

>Karma_Wolf

Username checks out.

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Naimvitheld · 17h

NTA. I know it’s kind of petty, but have you guys considered locking your stuff up in your rooms? Like in a minifridge for the food, and then just on shelves for detergent and other stuff. It won’t fix the underlying issues but it might help you to not lose your shit on her. You might be able to get her towed if parking is a problem too. You might want to look into renter’s insurance if you can afford it, I know that that can be kinda expensive for dragons though.

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le_cok · 22h

NTA. You aren’t her family, mother or priest. Show her the door

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Rathalos-Mawshot · 22h

An exorcism might not be a bad idea at this rate..

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ssussybaakaa · 23h

Soft YTA here. I get that this girl is causing you and your housemates some issues but throwing someone out onto the streets is not an acceptable solution. Homelessness is rampant in America (where I’m assuming you are) and it’s a vicious cycle that people often can’t get out of once they’re trapped in.

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mothershucker10 · 23h

I get that homelessness is a big problem, but it’s not OP’s responsibility to keep this girl off the streets. OP didn’t even originally agree to be put in this position in the first place!

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ssussybaakaa · 21h

I have to respectfully disagree. Fighting the homelessness crisis is everyone’s societal responsibility. I am sorry that OP’s in this situation, but it’s up to her to make the most responsible choices for it that she can.

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mothershucker10 · 14h

OP has more of a responsibility for her own wellbeing and the wellbeing of her boyfriend and housemates than to some stranger causing havoc in her house.

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kkkkkkking · 23h

NAH seems like a shitty position for everyone tbh. wish you the best OP

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melon-cat-dogw · 20h

ESH. You’re looking down on this girl and not treating her like an adult. Seriously, you and your roommates all going behind her back and talking about her, instead of talking to her??? It’s obvious this girl needs help and support right now, and it sounds like she might be mentally unwell too maybe even from the stress of it all. You wouldn’t be an asshole if you weren’t so judgmental and just helped her out.

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notsosecretlyadragon_ [OP] · 23h

Me being a dragon has nothing to do with how I feel about this situation. I’d also prefer if you not pass judgement on me and my relationships and just focus on the situation at hand, thanks.

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darkclouddorothy · 23h

YTA. You know damn well that someone with no job and no home is as good as dead out on the streets in some places, especially if the weather is fucked in winter time. You’re showing your true colors here and should be helping her get on her feet, not kicking her while she’s down. Shame on you.

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VOLTAchu · 23h

NTA

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Sims3_cowplant · 21h

Happy cake day!

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maruchan-top-kekmen · 20h

Are you sure this isn’t just you being territorial or whatever? Like, lizard brain maybe overpowering your common sense and how you’re viewing this

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CryoTalons · 19h

Are you fucking serious? Did you read the post at all???

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4n7145h · 17h

Dragons are always over-dramatic on this sub. Get over yourselves and learn how to human better.

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Sk8rderg · 17h

Fake. Everyone knows a REAL dragon would just eat someone so annoying.

Edit: also NTA

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sentient-soda-can · 15h

People like you and OP are the reason millions of Americans are killed by dragons every year. This is why the 2nd Amendment right is so important, because of scalecucks like you. I hope you try to eat someone. See where it gets you, with the barrel of a shotgun stuffed between your teeth.

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ermagerden-its-a-dergen · 12h

r/woosh

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EmilyLastname · 19h

wtf did I just read. Nta

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[deleted] · 12h

Repent your species and obstacles like this will be nothing in comparison to your heavenly reward

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ermagerden-its-a-dergen · 10h

r/lostredditors

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[therian-aita]

submit aita ! >:3

[therian-aita]

AITA for being annoyed at wolfkin for wearing collars???

I feel like im one of the few kin who think wolves Shouldnt wear collars, its like being a pets. wolves are not pets. everytime i see a wolfkin with a collar it bothers me, wolves dont wear collars

[therian-aita]

aita for using "kinnie language"?

i use kinnie, kinlist, kin as a verb, and whatever a lot of people don't like. my friend group contains both kinfolk, kff, and non-kin people and i'm sort of used to it because that's what we use when we talk about this kind of stuff (yes, we're all aware of our different usages + implications of the same word/s). lots of posts n stuff with people hating "kinnie language" just makes me feel bad :,}

[therian-aita]

AITA for being mad my mom thinks therianthropy is a mental illness?

A week or two ago I told her I was a therian, she was completely okay with it, she said she wouldn't encourage it but she was fine with it

A few days ago she had alcohol (so she was more rude then usual when saying these things) and told me she did "research" about what therians were and said it wasn't real

Then she started calling me mentally ill and schizophrenic if I actually believed I was a therian, because I told her I had a phantom shift so I was probably hallucinating or something

So I feel bad cause I blurted out that I wanted to throw something at her, and I told her other rude things because I was having a panic attack, but now I feel really awkward around her, knowing she thinks so poorly of me

[therian-aita]

aita for doing quadropics in my room around my older sister who is "uncomfortable with furry culture"(her words not mine)?

[therian-aita]

aitah for not always using my 'kin blog for nonhuman-related stuff?

For context, my blog started as a safe space for me to connect with the therian, otherkin, fictionkin, and generally alterhuman and nonhuman communities. As of late, however, I've noticed that my blog hasn't really been as kin-focused as I had originally intended. Sure, it's mostly been filled with interactions with one specific mutual and stuff about my (fictotype's) source, but as someone who originally joined alterhuman Tumblr for therian interaction, it sometimes makes me feel like a fraud and a bit of an ah.

[therian-aita]

tw: death , hunting , fox “hunting”

aita for not wanting to interact with people who are dog therians bc i was killed by a dog?

im a fox therian and in my past life i was caught and released by humans to hunt using their horses and dogs. i was killed by a dog during this, and now they all scare me, including dog therians :( aita for not wanting to interact with them?

[therian-aita]

AITA for being extremely frustrated when people use "kin" as a verb?

it's always been "kin with". people are coming here from anime kinnie communities and using our terminology wrong. i understand that maybe they're young and don't know, but it never seems to improve, even when we politely correct them.

if you want to use it for yourself, fine, whatever, but the rest of us don't "kin" our kintype. it's just really annoying because it feels like we're being lumped in with people who relate to characters and are misusing words that have had a solid definition for decades.

[therian-aita]

AITA for being disturbed at comments of my dragon-kintype that relate to us being hunted and killed for food Was in a chat the other day when someone left a distasteful comment over an image, a summery of which was them implying that the mentioned dragons in the image needed to fuck more and reproduce, just so that he could hunt them to eat more "dragon steaks" I made a comment about that, being a bit rude in return, only for the admit to side with the person making the comment, saying that it was a day old reply, and commenting that dragon furries always have such weak egos as justification for said ruling. They did not ask as to why I was upset at all, and immediately sided with the one who made the comment in the first place without any research.

[therian-aita]

aita for not correcting someone on "kinning"?

i have a nonhuman friend who recently came out, but still uses the word kinnie and kinlist. i haven't corrected them yet mostly because of my spoon levels.

[therian-aita]

AITA for accidentaly breaking one of my belongings during a shift?

imo, nta cuz its your own stuff

[therian-aita]

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[therian-aita]

atia for grossly misunderstanding a post asking for advice on dealing with body image issues related to weight and responding to it about dealing with species dysmorphia