#also their antisemitism was astounding
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queerbauten · 1 year ago
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"Israel has the right to exist, but—" I don't care what mealy-mouthed crap spews forth from your mouth next. How can you look at the atrocities being perpetuated by the state of Israel and think it should be a priority—your priority—to affirm that this state has some sort of unique right to exist. Did Rhodesia have the right to exist? Did Apartheid South Africa have the right to exist? No. No, they didn't, and they were right to be abolished. May Israel join them.
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floralovebot · 2 years ago
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It's insane to me that this entire "debate" (if it can even be called that) is literally just
trans people, jewish people, black people literally everyone who has been hurt by bigotry: hey please don't spend $70 on a game about pro-slavery and fascism when a lot of that money will go to its creator who is publically bigoted and uses her massive amounts of wealth to fund the eradication of marginalized groups
and the response to that was: fuck you why can't you just let people enjoy things, harry potter personally saved my life
like. it's extremely telling that so many people value their own entertainment and nostalgia over the lives of others. jkr is such a horrible, despicable person and literally all people are saying is that yeah you shouldn't be giving a modern day nazi that much money when they constantly bring people to the alt right and donate that money to every anti-human rights organization you could think of.
and no i don't think sending people death threats is okay but at the same time, you don't get to act surprised, defensive, or victimized when people call you out for giving money to a fucking nazi.
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piece-of-mined · 9 months ago
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Pssst…. Here’s a secret, it’s not a genocide when the Palestinian population has been steadily increasing over the past 7 decades. Wanna know what is genocidal though? When Hamas’ charter states that one of its goals is to eradicate the Jews.
The people in the ATLA fandom should keep their noses out of a conflict they are far removed from and know absolutely nothing about until they move on to the next trendy thing to be keyboard warriors for.
I recently read one of your ATLA fics and enjoyed it immensely. Sad to come here and see you defend Israel, especially in light of the genocide they’ve been committing. It’s astounding to me how some people can know what’s right in fiction but not in real life. You can shout “antisemitism” but that won’t justify the Palestinian lives taken because of that excuse to defend zionism. Disappointed in you.
It's astounding to me that turning off anon didn't stop people deciding "being Jewish" means "defending Israel".
(FYI for anyone reading who doesn't know: literally the only things I have posted about Israel are that I knew a hostage, on Oct 8, and was upset about it, and that I am not interested in defending Israel's actions. Your guess is as good as mine which of those has piqued edensguard's righteous anger.)
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kosherkept · 2 months ago
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antisemites will say that israelis need to just utilize their dual citizenship (that they all obviously have) and move back to "where they really come from" in europe or north america.... but they also harass the living hell out of any israeli person or business or organization they come across inside of those north american or european countries. if you want israelis to "go home" to the USA, why don't you tolerate actual, real-life israeli immigrants to the USA? why do you create hate campaigns against them, harass and assault and murder them, wishing fates worse than death upon them? that doesn't sound like you're very happy they "went back to where they came from" to me. the hypocrisy of leftist antisemites continues to astound me
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augustheart · 1 year ago
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grant morrison has written some of the most undeniably racist comics i have ever read. they have also written some incredible antisemitism and some utterly astounding transmisogyny which often intersects with the racism. i cannot stress enough how unpleasant some of these things are to read. it is not the first time i've made a post like this but i keep seeing people talk about how groundbreaking their work is in terms of gender identity and representation in comics. and that may be true to you, but you cannot get mad at people for being justifiably uncomfortable at the constant worship and praise of a person who wrote a comic where the only two black characters are codenamed "boy" and "jim crow" and one of the first villains is a short fat balding man named gelt who is sacrificing british children to an insectoid overlord. not even getting into the transmisogynistic violence they like to inflate their stories with, which tends to be incredibly racialized. sorry. not your call to make people feel like they have to accept that.
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the-garbanzo-annex-jr · 1 month ago
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by Melanie Phillips
Jews — grotesquely designated in “victim culture” as an oppressor class — are the most victimised people on earth. Jew-hatred through the centuries has led to the persecution, attack and murder of millions. Today it continues at epidemic levels which are out of control throughout the west as well as in the Islamic world. 
Antisemites deny this victimisation. They claim that the Jews invent it, “playing the victim card” to conceal their assumed misdeeds and exploitation of others. They believe that Jews use the claim of antisemitism to enable them to “get away with it”. And what exactly do they believe Jews thus “get away with”? Why, that the Jews are a powerful and sinister cabal with global power which they use to further their own interests and harm others — in other words, all the antisemitic canards about the Jews that are a vicious lie but which antisemites believe to be true. 
Such people also resent any evidence of antisemitism because they want to hate the Jews without being prevented from doing so by social opprobrium. They cannot tolerate the truth about Jewish victimisation because that would reveal themselves to be the disgusting people they are. They want to be able to hate the Jews while continuing to drape themselves in the mantle of moral virtue.
Proponents of “victim culture” have a further problem with the victimisation of the Jews. Using their own “victim” status as a social and cultural weapon, they can’t tolerate the fact that the Jews never play the victim card. 
Despite the ever-ending persecution the Jews have suffered, they have always picked themselves up and sought to transcend their pain and distress by making the best out of their lives and the lives of others. 
The only reparations they sought after the Holocaust were to secure the return of what was rightfully theirs and had been stolen from them. They have never demanded that the Catholic church, the British ruling class or the continent of Europe pay reparations for the centuries of persecution they inflicted upon the Jews. They have never assumed that the appalling way the world has treated them means that the world owes them a living. 
They just got on with building positive and productive lives. From the ashes of the Holocaust, they created the spectacularly thriving, life-affirming State of Israel. And in the war that has followed the barbaric atrocities of last year’s October 7 pogrom in Israel, where a terrible toll has been taken of the best and bravest who are still steadily falling in battle, a grieving and traumatised people under constant attack is continuing to display astounding levels of heroism, steadfastness and resilience.
Despite the fact that they have been so badly victimised, Jews choose never to “be” victims, never to live or behave as victims. Stating this fact drives antisemites mad. “But they play the victim card all the time!” they scream. To them, Jew-hatred is a self-serving fiction. They can’t acknowledge the moral necessity of identifying its unique and all-too-real characteristics. They can’t recognise the difference between truth and lies. They can’t stand Jewish resilience. All that matters is maintaining their own warped and malevolent narrative about a world they choose not to understand. And that, of course, is why such people hate the Jews, who show these haters up for what they truly are.  
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sunbeamedskies · 10 months ago
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I've seen a lot of troubling antisemitism in the Our Flag Means Death fandom lately regarding Taika Waititi. Please hear me out.
A lot of people want everyone to comment about the Israel/Palestine war. It's understandable. What Palestinian civilians are going through in Gaza is a nightmare that no one deserves. They are overwhelmingly paying the price for Hamas' actions- a group they have no control over and are also harmed by. Thousands have been killed.
After October 7th, Taika signed a letter asking for the Israeli hostages to be released. It did not endorse any specific actions taken by the Israeli government- it was simply in support of the hostages.
But you know what he was immediately accused of?
Supporting genocide. Even though what he signed was about Israeli civilians- including the elderly, disabled, and children- who were being held captive by Hamas.
On October 7th, Jews died in a single day in numbers that hadn't been since the Holocaust. Israel contains half the world's entire Jewish population. The majority of its population are descendants of Jews from middle eastern and north African countries who were forcibly kicked out in violent pogroms and had nowhere else to go. Many are descendants of Holocaust survivors as well.
I think most non-Jews would be astounded at how much the majority of the worldwide Jewish community is still mourning and reeling from October 7th. It triggered a lot of intergenerational trauma in many of us, yet I hear barely any non-Jews talk about it.
And yet you immediately accused Taika, a Jewish man, of supporting genocide just because he didn't support hostages being taken and random civilians being murdered. Do you really think he trusts people not to twist his words if he attempts to talk about Palestine too, when you turned a moment of legitimate pain for members of one of the persecuted groups he's apart of into accusing him of being a genocide-supporting monster?
We Jews not only have to deal with the memory of October 7th, but also with people conflating any support for the hostages with support for the Israeli government. When we say that criticism of Israel can at times get antisemitic, this is the kind of thing we're talking about.
Many of us are simultaneously mourning for Palestine and horrified that a right-wing fascist government that has little care for Palestinian lives has taken over Israel. Innocent lives taken shouldn't justify the killing of other innocent lives, and we are watching it happen, feeling powerless.
And it gets worse, because targeting Taika specifically because he's a person of multiple marginalized identities, when you don't attack white members of the crew nearly as much, is ironically racist.
Unintentional antisemitism and unintentional racism is still antisemitism and racism.
Take a deep breath and please reflect on how you have no idea what it's like to be Jewish right now, and how some of your own antisemitic criticism about his signature has likely contributed to his silence about Palestine. If no matter what he says his words and actions are twisted by so many of his "fans", he might think there's nothing he can say that will do any good.
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redditantisemitism · 2 years ago
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Here’s an interesting one-is this antisemitism? I think so. Let’s discuss:
First, the context. This comment was left on a post containing this meme, poking fun at the messianic “Jews” (they aren’t Jewish) and antisemitic Christians that appropriate Pesach.
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Now. This person does make a few correct statements, and I’ll give them credit. They’re right that a lot of Christians and Christianity are antisemitic. But with that out of the way, let’s look at the myriad of ways they’re so very wrong:
I'm not going to pretend to know a lot about Passover
User admits that they are not qualified to be making judgements. As a Christian it isn't their place to tone police Jews anyways, but especially since they admit that they have no idea what they're talking about.
I would refrain from throwing all Christians under the bus
I'm sure they would. That isn't what is happening though, and framing it like this highlights their defensiveness- they aren't trying to have a productive conversation, they just don't like seeing Christianity being portrayed this way. Playing the victim, and not for the last time.
The Catholic church has largely been the main culprit here
Interestingly, there is a Catholic elsewhere in the thread blaming the Protestants. Typical Protestant vs. Catholic stuff, and this user is using it to attempt to distance themself from the "bad" Christians. Also, in my experience, almost every Christian "seder" I've seen or heard of has been held by a Protestant sect of some sort.
it's important to know that all the while the persecution was happening to jews by christians, there have been other christians speaking out against it.
More of the same, see above. "not all Christians!"
Please don't forget about the Christians who are willing to lay down their lives for the Jewish people.
Here's where the fetishization starts. Also, literally nobody asked you to do that, don't use us to feed your martyr complex. Also also, where exactly are these Christians, because they've been doing a shitty job.
Christians like myself are perfectly capable of seeing Yeshua in the Passover without changing it, or preaching to you up and down about it.
And this is where the explicit antisemitism starts, as opposed to the red flags we've been seeing. This person, based on their language, seems to be some sort of "Torah believing Christian"- something inherently appropriative and antisemitic.
Furthermore, YOU SHOULD NOT BE SEEING JESUS IN PASSOVER. That is, at best, idiotic, and at worst, actively antisemitic. It's certainly supercessionist. JEWISH TEXTS DO NOT PROPHESIZE JESUS. Christians should not be touching Pesach uninvited in ANY way, regardless of if they change things or not.
Yeshua didn't change it and neither should we
This person demonstrates an astounding level of ignorance. Any modern Seder would HAVE to be different than any Seder Jesus might have held (assuming he even existed), because it is impossible to do it like him. There is no temple to offer animal sacrifices at, like there would have been at the time. Regardless, not only should Christians not be changing seders, they shouldn't be touching it.
They then rant for a while about how Easter is bad. Which. My dude. That's your holiday. Go fuck around with that and leave Jews alone.
Please have patience and a soft heart for Christians who believe that:
More "not all Christians", this time with an added level of playing the victim. Hard pass.
-Jews don't need to be converted
Even stopped clocks are right twice a day.
-Christians have the holidays and events wrong
Uh? No? Is this some weird Christian intracommunity thing? Your holidays are your holidays, leave ours alone.
-the dietary laws were upheld by yeshua
Regardless of if this is true or not, Jesus was Jewish. This poster isn't. Kosher is for Jews. Christians aren't entitled to Jewish practice just because they worship a Jew.
-all of the torah was upheld by yeshua
see previous bullet point.
-the Jews are the chosen people of God
Typical Christian misunderstanding of "Chosen". "Chosen" to uphold the mitzvot, not to be better, or put on a pedestal. This is another example of how they fetishize Jews, and it does not get better.
-the Jews come first
See previous bullet point. Fetishization like this is disgusting and harmful. It removes humanity and personhood from Jews, instead presenting us as some mystical object of worship that we never claimed to be and can never live up to. We are not a zoo exhibit, we are a vibrant and living culture.
-salvation is of the Jews
See previous bullet point. We are people, not a tool for your salvation.
-the Jews have been entrusted with the words of Yah*weh
See previous bullet point. Also super disrespectful to just throw that name around in Jewish spaces, but I don't know what I expected from an antisemitic, philosemitic Jew fetishist.
-we should be suffering with the Jews, not against them
WE ARE NOT FUEL FOR YOUR MARTYR COMPLEX. Plenty of Jewish suffering would be alleviated if Christians like this person would just leave us alone. But they don't actually want Jewish suffering to stop, because then they'd lose a tool and a way to play victim.
they end with a plea not to lump all Christians together with the "bad" ones- something literally nobody was doing. Once again, it's a lot of "Not all Christians!!!" and their own self-victimhood. They say not all Christians are "like that", which is true. But this one certainly is.
Chag Pesach sameach everybody, and stay off the fuss bus.
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a-very-tired-jew · 9 months ago
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Dropout Antisemitism - This one has me flabbergasted
I am watching in real time the Dropout palestine channel state that Arabic is the original language of Israel/Palestine... It begins with one user saying that they've noticed that Arabic is "slowly being erased" due to language exchange between Hebrew and Arabic. They also state that this is happening because Israel uses Hebrew on its major documents, signs, etc...
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Fig. 1. User who begins the Arabic language erasure conversation. This person is not a usual poster in the channel. This is followed by one of the common users in the channel saying that they need to refer to places by their Arabic names.
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Fig. 2. Frequent user saying to refer to places by Arabic names. However, one user then states that they refer to Mt. Rushmore as Six Grandfather due to the USA's cultural erasure of the original name. This is absolutely wild to me because they are insisting on using the Arabic names...you know...the names that came about after Arab Colonization of the region? They are outright denying that the Hebrew names of certain cities are the original indigenous names. It's also astounding that people can support one cause of indigeneity, but not another.
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Fig. 3. User equates referring to cities with post Arab colonization names to calling Mt. Rushmore by its indigenous name - Six Grandfathers.
But we all know why that is...they don't view Jews as indigenous to the region. I'm absolutely astounded that this level of erasure is just being allowed on the official Dropout Discord. This is blatant antisemitism and Jewish historical erasure. Edit: If more gets posted I will add to this. I doubt anyone in the channel is going to point out that Hebrew is the original language for a majority of these locations.
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Being harassed by zionists who immediately assume I'm anti Semitic when I am, indeed, Jewish, is insane to me. Disgusting behavior to support and deny the multiple genocides that Israel has committed - against Ethiopian Jews for example - and then turn around and say that I'm anti-semitic for pointing them out.
A class analysis of Israel as a colony apartheid state similar in class structure to that of pre-1960s America, of Apartheid South Africa, etc. Is not antisemitism, and watering down the word to "shock value" your way into attempting to reinforce a colonial status quo, is disgusting and imperialism apologia.
I received a message saying that I believed that I was "Delievering punishment to Jewish people". An absolutely astounding claim that does not deserve its own post. Not only does this paint me as an anti-semite, which is a ridiculous claim, although expected that a colored jew wouldn't be accepted by Israel's apologists, I also paints proletarian revolution as a "punishment", both incorrect an astounding statements.
Proletarian revolution is a historical necessity. Not a punishment, not anything less than complete upheaval of society by the proletariat and its associated revolutionary classes, as our historical mission is completely abolish class society and with it exploitation and several other factors.
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penguicorns-are-cool · 1 year ago
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I posted this in a reblog earlier but I think I should make it it's own post
Believe it or not, there are actually many different types of zionism as it is a complex political movement that existed for over 1000 years as a loosely connected set of ideas and saying it proposes that Jewish people are more entitled to Palestine than Palestinians is a huge oversimplification and for most types of zionism is just completely false.
Here's a little crash course on different types of zionism
Political Zionism: this is how zionism started and it is basically everything Theodore Herzl said in Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State). basically the idea that the establishment of a Jewish state (preferably in Palestine but anywhere will do) is necessary to prevent the genocide of Jews and for Jews to have somewhere to go when their lives are in danger. The belief here is that for Jews to truly have any sort of security Jews need to have sovereignty over their own state. It is a response to antisemitism.
Revisionist Zionism: this is the one that y'all are all familiar with. This one also formed as a response to antisemitism but with a bit less patience. It was most popular in central and east europe with Jews who were waiting to immigrate because of the astounding amounts of antisemitism in europe at the time. This one calls for mass Jewish settlement in Israel with the goal of making a Jewish majority in Palestine. They became very popular because they would facilitate mass migrations from europe to palestine during Holocaust times. This is the zionism of the Likud party which Netanyahu is a part of.
Religous Zionism: religous zionism advocated for the establishment of a Jewish state for religous reasons. Basically all the, it's a Jewish holy land stuff and how there are some mitzvot that can only be fulfilled in Israel. There was also a prophecy and stuff about Jews returning to Israel it's a whole thing.
Socialist/Labor zionism: This was the most prominent form of zionism for Jews living in Palestine just before Israel was established and many of Israel's founders were socialist zionists. They believed that the rise of capitalism would spark class struggles in other countries that would exacerbate existing antisemitism and working class Jews would be forced to move. The idea was that there had to be a Jewish state where those Jews could escape to to avoid antisemitism. These guys actually did a lot of really cool things under very bad conditions. They spread modern Hebrew, made uninhabitable parts of Israel into fertile land, and set up a lot of schools. Many of them had just recently escaped genocide or had families being genocided in Europe. At this point in time they were also being constantly massacred by Palestinian Arabs (there's a whole thing with Nazis spreading their propoganda in the Middle East at this time in an effort to kill more Jews then later the soviets did something similar it's a whole thing. There were also general tensions and the British did not help at all). Depending on the person or group, whether the socialism or zionism is more emphasized can vary.
Spiritual Zionism: these are the people who don't believe Palestine can hold all the Jews and rather than being a designated safe space for all Jews to go in case of emergency it should be a religous hub that would help the diaspora regain their spirituality
Messianic Zionism: this is an extremist group. This one developed around the six-day-war and is honestly kind of culty from what I'm seeing. They believe Israel belongs to the Jews by divine decree. They would like ban people from even interacting with Arabs and were only tolerated until Israel started trading back land in peace treaties. Then one of them assassinated Yitzchak Rabin (generally loved prime minister cause he signed a bunch of peace treaties). They're controversial at best terrorists at worst. we don't like these ones at all.
Christain Zionism: there's some sort of christain belief that all the Jews returning to Israel is part of the end of times prophecy so they will organize trips for Jews to move to Israel. They're actually pretty antisemitic. Christain zionists generally support the oppression of Palestinians and also a whole lot of other horrible things.
Please just understand that zionism ≠ supports Israel's actions against Palestine. For a lot of people it means Jews should have a safe space to go in case of antisemitism or Israel is a holy land for Jews too and we'd like to also live there and have a bit of sovereignty. There are in fact zionists who would like there to be one Jewish and Palestinian state where Palestinians and Jews have somewhat equal political power, that actually was one of the suggestions back before 1948 and it ended up falling through.
Also, please please please go research some history of Palestine from like early 1900s on. 1948 isn't the start of the conflict there's so much context that you lose if you start there. Just like, if an article or source starts telling the history at 1948, it's probably biased in some way. The wikipedia page is actually pretty good for this just read the British Mandate period and maybe check the sources if you want to.
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the-rainbow-lesbian · 8 months ago
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no cus why have i already seen multiple posts stating “iran has a right to defend itself” trending on tumblr 💀💀💀
like these people are out here defending the government of an oppressive regime they spent the past two years condemning for its atrocious human rights violations bc it suddenly fits their narrative better??? you cannot tell me people ACTUALLY believe theyre doing anything for palestinians by shilling for the iranian government
Its not even surprising anymore but its still astounding to see the level of hypocrisy some people display, like the cognitive dissonance is enough to split an atom istgggg 💀
antisemitism makes you stupid I guess because why were they cheering on the houthis when they execute women and gay people and also enslave people
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luvmoonie · 8 months ago
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I find it weird that someone’s first instinct is to say I'm uneducated for not supporting israel. ive done a lot of research and to say so is to take away the integrity of having a debate, instead of just being upset i don't agree with you. why is it wrong to say that israel should not have occupation over gaza? if it emboldened hamas would we not just fight against hamas instead of killing innocent civilians in the name of doing so?
to say that me saying 'it was sixth months ago' is calloused and that i'm saying everyone should get over it, is to completely misinterpret my point, so the irony of people to tag misinformation is astounding. What I meant is that to still argue that what israel are doing: starving people, killing over 30000, bombing homes and hospitals, is not easily justified with the argument of october 7th anymore, as it is completely outweighed by their inhumane genocidal actions.
There’s no denying that it was wrong and horrific, but there's even people doubting israel's claimed death toll of that day, alongside many other claims they put out. Whilst there is also speculation of claims from gaza, the claims of the idf torturing and raping prisoners alongside the rest of their actions, makes it seem weird and callous to me to argue that killing palestinians is right for this event. and yes, of course the focus is on hostages still in gaza, but is this israel's focus? what about them killing people not even involved. i’ve heard many say palestinians are not innocent also, because they voted hamas, which is the most cruel and unjust thing ive ever heard.
So, to say I have a lack of understanding is really one sided, as you clearly have a bias, and so do your rebloggers who are claiming im antisemitic when there is no claim in any of my posts that is against jews. Where in my posts is it untrue or incorrect? id really like to know because nowhere have i showed a lack of concern for lives, in fact i openly condemn the actions of hamas. maybe you all need to self reflect, because you seem to lack any consideration for the innocent palestinians if it means israel get to retaliate for hamas' actions? my original post regarding this was about the ignorance of the us and the military side of this, as this is clearly a political issue that many are projecting onto. ( which we can see with how iran have retaliated and how the uk have responded ) I'm not antisemitic, nor do i condone the killing of jews in israel. for you to say so baffles me with your narrow sighted view and complete disregard for anything ive said. it seems to me that many who have seen my post have an agenda, and are desperate to show that me being pro-palestine makes me antisemitic and pro-hamas.
I understood that making a post like this would incite many to argue for the sake of arguing, and many to completely misinterpret my words to make their point. Still, I hope you can find it in yourselves to be as sympathetic to the lives of those suffering in palestine as you are to those in israel. Please take a break from the internet and look around you to realise that this is not people discriminating against jews, it’s people being against the genocide Israel is committing with the desire for both sides to be free from this conflict.
@jewishlivesmatter I can’t tag you or even reblog your post, suggesting you’ve blocked me or something similar. This shows the propaganda and biased view you’re attempting to portray, which is really harmful if you agree with others that palestinians are not innocent and deserve this. Do better, if you’re going to spew such hatred, atleast be open to debate. 🫠 I would love to message you and actually talk about something so serious, or even reblog but clearly that was not your intent with this!
( @meandtherodentinthewall @jewishbarbies @fnafcraze1991 @jewishlivesmatter )
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jewishbarbies · 8 days ago
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you can also tell that with other artists, Jack seems to have a lot more creative freedom than when he makes music with Taylor, and that shows a lot. Listening to the Kendrick album, I was actually astounded at how much I was enjoying the production coz Jack been working with Taylor and her goons for so long that I forgot that he actually great at his craft fr lol. Like that whole album is such a West Coast bop and I really underestimated Antonoff. He’s a very creative man when it comes to music, but I feel that when it comes to Taylor, she’s very strict when it comes to what she wants, which isn’t… bad (coz lots of artists are particular), but it’s to her detriment. When TTPD came out, I saw so many Swifties complaining that every single song on the album sounded the same (and from the little I heard, they do sound the same) and that she needs to stop working with Antonoff. But now I’m thinking, with all the great shit that Antonoff has been putting out since the 2010s to present, for every artist that’s NOT Taylor, is he really the problem here?
Because I remember that the rumours that Max Martin no longer works with Taylor because of her controlling nature when it comes to music. And that’s also to her detriment because how is she gonna recreate Reputation without the one who made it a good album production wise?
Idk because lots of artists are extremely particular with what they want, like Beyoncé, Ariana Grande, Charli XCX, Lady Gaga, etc, but something is off with Taylor. I think maybe it’s because the other artists such as the ones I mentioned collaborate and work with their producers to make something great instead of trying to control and dictate what their producers do. There’s no creative collaboration between Jack and Taylor like there is between Jack and Kendrick, Lorde, Lana, etc. Taylor wants “yes men” so he gives her a “yes man.”
This is speculation, but I really get the impression that Taylor Swift is arrogant enough to think that she knows music production better than Jack, and overrides him during the creative process.
Which leads to her music having worse production, because Taylor does in fact not know music production better than Jack Antonoff.
And then, you think of the antisemitic shit that she’s done over the years and the way she treats other “industry Jews” like Scooter Braun (who, while he is far from a saint, did not deserve all of the antisemitism from her and Swifties. Especially when he did nothing out of the ordinary), I really do get why Jack Antonoff would be uncomfortable and it shows in his work with her.
There’s also the fact that Taylor has no creativity of her own. Jack’s a wonderful producer, but he ain’t a miracle worker.
honestly had those controlling vibes from taylor back during debut/fearless when there was a special with interviews about her story and someone said they were impressed with her because she could “control a room of writers” and “wouldn’t let them push her around” because she “knew what she wanted”. and of course, people took that as her being creative and driven and confident. but to the industry it sent the message that she was uncooperative af and was a pain to work with because she just wanted a dancing monkey. some of her best production was done by Max Martin and there was a noticeable difference in quality when he left. everything became monotone somehow and the songs started sounding the same. she wants Jack because he’s obviously not willing to rock the boat when she makes demands regardless of how it’s going to sound, but her fans eat it up anyway just because it’s her so. Jack moving on from her would actually be better for her because they just don’t sound compatible to me, sonically, and he’s capable of such better work.
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bonyassfish · 13 days ago
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Hot take perhaps but the way some Jews (I say this as a Jew) have gone full on qanon levels of paranoia in the past year is a bit astounding. Like we’re not even talking about your aipac uncle who leaves services in the middle to go drink scotch and be islamophobic with his kiddish club. I’m talking about people who probably think of themselves as moderates or liberals or even leftists, who have lost the plot so much. They think the Holocaust is happening on college campuses (it’s not). They think every celebrity is personally throwing fundraisers for Hamas.
Obviously, antisemitism is still a thing, I’m never going to deny that, but if I am to be honest, I will tell you the most salient threat to Jews right now, at least to American Jews, is the creeping rise of Christian-fascism/white supremacy that’s been happening since 2016 but will get much worse in the next four years. But some of us are apparently so delusional that we think someone like Mike Huckabee could be our allies. Are we so delusional or impressionable that all we need is for someone to make the right noises about Israel to us and we can forget that they either want to kill us, convert us, or use us in their dumbass plan to bring back Jesus?
And it’s frustrating because I don’t want it to seem like I’m saying that Jews are lying about antisemitism en masse. It’s more that the Jewish community in the US, especially the ones here who have the most power and influence, adamantly refuse to genuinely interrogate our community’s relationship not just to the state of Israel itself but to Zionism as a concept. As if this is a sacred part of our tradition and not a political concept that only emerged a few centuries ago, one that was mostly unpopular until we were severely communally traumatized by a genocide that left many of us displaced, and many of us thinking the only way for us to be safe was if we built a country and removed the people living there because it needed to be “ours”
And now those of us who are antizionist Jews mostly don’t know how to talk about except to each other, because non Jews who are antizionists will say we’re being self-indulgent, non Jews who are Zionists will say we’re being self-hating, and Zionist Jews will also call us self-hating but it stings much more coming from them.
I take great pride in being Jewish and I always will. But this community of ours is letting fear and distrust turn us into paranoid separatists
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darth-grips · 3 months ago
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Also. Now that I'm all worked up about it. Other than Traviss literally calling the Jedi an "elite c*bal" who steals babies and deserved what happened to them (which is. Textbook antisemitism.). She also writes about Mandalorians in the EXACT SAME WAY that Sir Walter Scott wrote about the highlanders and other celts. Not only in that she romanticizes the hard primitivism and noble savagery of it all, but in that the Mandos are pretty explicitly modeled after the Highland Scots. The fact that Mandalore is described how British authors describe Scotland and Keldabe is literally just Edinburgh and ne'tra gal (Mandalorian black ale) is just Guiness (which yes is Irish but I'm pretty sure she doesn't give a shit.) is just the cherry on top. AND ASIDE FROM THE CLONES, whose non-whiteness is merely incidental from the way Traviss writes them, if she acknowledges it at all, all the Mandos shown on page are white and human. Like come on Karen. You couldn't even be interesting with it! You had to make them a het norm 1:1 of a real world culture just in space and in the most boring way possible. YOU MADE THE MANDOS PLAY SOCCER AND I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT. THEY SHOULD BE PLAYING MAYA FIRE HOCKEY AT LEAST. OR BETTER YET, A VARIATION ON KI-O-RAHI OR SOMETHING. like how she managed to whitewash a culture that doesn't even exist is astounding to me.
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