#also just played the latest flashback and im now SO SAD
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uldren-sov · 1 year ago
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Camy Rose
Lead Singer of Chaos Anthem
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Played through the latest update of @infamous-if and here's where we're at!! Lots of red, hope that doesnt mean anything
and its wild the amount of approval you get with seb/orion by just being nice/serious meanwhile how do you gain approval with August I NEED TO KNOW
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spyrkle4 · 3 years ago
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owl house and amphibia destroyed me this week rip Sparks
and im gonna talk about them
so uh first owl house
(spoilers under cut u know the drill)
-THE DREAM SEQUENCE.... SO CUTE ;-;
-King just wants both his families together ;-;
-The flashback sequence Luz is not Okay
-Also she feels so bad for contributing its not ur fault Luz bby ;-;
-HOOTY AND KING GIVE BEST HUGS
-COOL AUNT LILLITH TO THE RESCUE
-I made a post about this but how dare they have Eda cry worrying abt her kids that is the face of a worried mother and i am hit emotionally in the gut just LET THEM BE OKAY
-WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE DAY OF UNITY IS IN A WEEK. HELLO?!
-King finally got his letter
Me before this ep: Im mad at Hooty for eating the letter 
Me after this ep: actually Hooty was right to eat it
-hhhh family feels with the pirate
-huh i guess if there were more than 1 titan then there’d be more than one isle
-i wanna know how that portal works
-but wow titan hunters??? cool
-until the twist of the ep 
-When I heard the leader is named “Bill” I totally thought of the satan dorito from Gravity Falls... im not the only one right???
-KING IS A TITAN?!?!?! WH?!
-HE JUST WANTS TO PLAY CATCH I AM SOBBING
-Oh god if King is a titan the owl house might wanna expand bc he is going to end up very tall
-Wait if King is a titan WTF happened to his dad?!
-Also if the Collector kills titans does that mean it was trapped by a titan I NEED ANSWERS
-ALSO THAT ENDING WTF I AM AFRAID
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Okay now for frog show
-Three armies was good but WHO GAVE POLLY WEAPONS?!
-Also am sad bc look what Andrias did... he made the three races of amphibia hate each other its just... sad... very sad...
-that bit where Anne was a known meditator back home was SO cute, Anne really out here using the power of friendship
-The team building exercises I liked the knot part where Sasha’s group did super well it was wholesome
-AND THEN ANNE GOING SUPER SAIYAN ON THE GROUPS FOR FIGHTING LMAOOOO
-The message being that “they cant forget the past but they could work together to build a better future” is great
-MOTHER OLM COMING IN TO DELIVER THE LATEST NEWS AHAHAH
-the second ep destroyed me from beginning to end that flashback start???
-Marcy feels... so many mf-ing marcy feels
-I did not expect Sasha to bring up the whole “Marcy was the one who brought them to Amphibia thing” but ig it’d be weird if they rugswept it, and her not even sure if they can repair their friendship???
-i hate it here
-Grime doing a battle playlist so cute
-he’s just vibing and i love the implications that Sasha shares her phone w/ her toad dad
-The part where Anne tells Sasha that forgiveness is hard but its worth it ALL THE FEELS. ig it shows that while their friendship isnt the same anymore that doesnt mean things cant be okay, I mean Anne and Sasha were besties the second half of the season
-OLIVIA  AND YUNANA HOLY COW
-oh they’re mind controlled should’ve seen this coming
-THAT DANCE BATTLE PART WAS GLORIOUS
-Oh no
-Oh no Darcy
-Oh no them doing that “you weren’t a good friend ever” to Sasha how dare u 
-Also ANDRIAS IN THIS EP
-THE PART WHERE HE ENTERS THE FIGHT
-AND THE BIT WHERE THEY LOST THAT IS SO SAD WTF
-im so glad Anne managed to buy some time that is some quick thinking.
-The “Shut up Andrias” with Darcy hahahah
-OH NO EARTH LOOK OUT OH NOES
-PLEASE TELL ME ANNE’S PARENTS ARE OKAY
-THAT CREDITS SCENE FUCKING BROKE ME OKAY?! THE PIANO MUSIC AT THE END WAS WHAT GOT ME AND NOW I AM IN TEARS AND I AM GOING TO EAT COOKIES AND LOOK AT MEMES TO TRY AND COPE WITH THESE EPISODES BC GOD THEY BROKE ME
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xxkellsvixen19xx · 4 years ago
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Forget Me Too Colson Baker X Reader
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"You want me to forget you
Okay, forget me too
You tell me you hate me
Baby, yeah, I bet you do"
Some relationships last forever, but most don’t. Some, in particular, seem destined to crash and burn. And not just burn like a campfire but go up in flames like someone doused them with a truckload of gasoline and topped it off with some dynamite. There are few experiences more devastating than a bad breakup— such was the case with Colson and Y/N. 
I was okay but deep inside i wasn't.
Since then there's not been a single day that has passed without him being in my thoughts.
I tried everything. Blocked him. Convinced him. Flirted with another guys. Casual datings. Slept with few of them. Made girlfriends. Installed all sort of dating applications. Deleted Instagram. Isolated myself. Read as many books i could get my hands on. Travelled, been on trips. Made good friends. Stalked him. Talked to him. Tried to be best friends but to what end? No ends
So every fucking thing I did. It is not that I was miserable but there was something missing that was bothering me and that was Colson.
We tried to make things right and atleast stay in touch but I failed everytime. He used to follow me, text me and even check on me and I just blocked him because I missed him but i didn't want to talk to him. Not because I was jealous or I was angry but yeah I missed what Colson and I had and I knew that now we can never have.
We tried but failed. Or maybe only I did.
But still I did talk to him and it was me who blocked him more than ten times. And I was the one who also unblocked and he used to talk to me. He used to say until now you're the one I have shared my life with and we can end up with what we started from. Being bestfriends but that was not acceptable to me. I tried several times but it didn't work out.
He tried to explain all sort of things to me but the heart wants what is wants.
Three years have passed and I feel the same for Colson. He was cute but not so innocent and he never left my system. It was all in my head and slowly I realised and I did leave from the very place that felt like home.
But it was now just a wreck. Couldn't be fixed. We were done breaking one another in the name of love.
Colson did try to save that friendship. Not just once, but a few times. But Silence was the response. Then he gifted her Space and stayed away so she can be happy. Love isn’t about possession.
Sometimes we don't get closure all the time and it is not required either. We just have to learn to live with that pain.
He had broken her he knew that between countless times of forgetting date nights, the numerous one night stands with other women and of course his drug issue was often the subject of many an argument. Any trust Y/N had once had was now gone. He thought back to the last argument they had…
Flashback…
“NO FUCK YOU KELLS IF YOU WANNA GO OUT PARTYING ALL NIGHT GO IM FUCKING DONE WITH THESE GAMES” Y/N screams and storms out the house in the pouring rain getting intoher car. 
“OK FUCK YOU TOO” Colson screams back walking out the house in nothing but joggers. 
Y/N climbs in her car and speeds out the drive way and onto the street.
That was the last time they spoke face to face. She wouldn't respond to his texts or his phone calls no matter how much he tried. Colson lost Y/N and for good this time and he had no one to blame but himself. 
"Fuck!" Tossing the empty beer bottle he had in his hand it hit the wall and smashed into tiny pieces. Emotions ruled the scene. All the Worlds a stage and both of us were the leads in the play called LIFE. "I know how much you are hurt and I don't know what am I going to do to make up for it" Colson thought to himself. 
I've wasted so much time
Waitin' around for your phone calls every night
My bad dreams are silk screens
'Cause I taste blood when you bleed
It's eatin' me alive
We'd both be better off alone
Still think I'd get you on the phone
With one last breath in me
I'd die before I'd let you leave. 
Sometimes silence speaks a thousand words, with more deep meaning. Words take back stage. Love is much more than just a feeling.
True Love waits with patience, but sometimes true love alone is not enough. There is no past tense in love. You always will love. May be the heart will try to heal and learn to live with that pain, the biggest problem is to silence the mind and move on. 
It's not even like getting over a dead person. Getting over someone you love truly is an extremely difficult task. Someday your heart will learn to live with it. It may not completely move on, but it will try to heal and live with it. The problem is to just silence the mind.
It hurts. It hurts real bad. It stings. There is a pang in Colson's heart every single time he think about Y/N. He cares for her that much and he loves her that much. He experienced the  pinnacle of happiness when he was with her, and now when she leaves, he experiences a nadir of sadness. It really hurts because he still cared and he will care, even though she is no longer with him. His heart will still care.
May be he loved her way too much and pushed her away or didn't know how to properly show it, all he ever did was fuck up. But it is the only way he knew to love her. Because she still means the whole world to him. He really has that hope that she is happy and if at all she comes back, she will still be the only princess in his life. If at all everyday in life he wanted to ask: "would you like to save today's changes?" World would be an awesome place. But that's what life is all about. We all make mistakes and we learn.
Sometimes time doesn’t heal things. It just makes us stronger to deal with pain. Sometimes true love alone isn’t enough. But someday if at all she realizes his love, she will still be the one he truly loves and care for.
I’m sorry for strangling you with my true love.
I’m sorry when I love you unconditionally even after you wanted me to stay away and move on.
I’m sorry if my care appeared as pestering.
I’m sorry if my love appeared as torture.
Colson thought aloud as if Y/N was right there in the room to hear him. 
It was all because I truly love you unconditionally. Even after you broke my heart a million times, those million pieces still love you to the truest of its senses. Because that is what love is all about. UNCONDITIONAL.
But all I wanted to say to your deafening Silence when you cut me off from your life and left is that “Staying away and no communication is never a solution to anything in life my dear.”
It is not that he didn’t accept that she don’t want him anymore in her life, but that he still loves and cares about her even though she can’t give me anything in return. It is not because he can’t move on or don’t want to move on, it is because his love for you is true.
He is not crying because it ended. But because he still loves her. Even after she ended it and ignored him completely. Tears start rolling down his cheeks, when he guided her hair behind her ears ,in the latest picture of hers.The moment when a picture speaks a thousand words. Every love story doesn't have a happy ending, because TRUE LOVE doesn't have an end. He still loves her in silence.
But he promises her that life will move on and he has learnt to live with that pain. He has learnt to emotionally detach myself and be strong. Life now even without her though was just going through the motions. 
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artificialashley · 4 years ago
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Top Five taywhora fics 👀❤
Okay so I managed to return to Uni after Easter without my laptop charger and we all know what tumblr mobile is like so sorry this answer is so late!! This is such a fun ask and I wish Id been able to answer it on my night home alone (ps im still third wheeling a week later someone help me)
(also the degree part of getting a degree is actually feeling real rn so i honestly havent read that many taywhora fics?? im such a bad fan but ive honestly been busy so if youre an author seeing this and i havent said you i probs havent read it yet or if i have said you and havent left you a comment then sorry...if anyone has recs send them in xoxo)
- Me and You Together and I Don’t Know How I Know (But I Know) by Ortega // part of me wants to say ‘well you see the author, this doesnt need any explaining’ because we all know that ortega is such a legend but i want to stress that every single thing she churns out is perfect in its own way and these fics are no different. me and you together is incredibly relatable, just a joy to read and i LOVE how it plays with chronology?? its so clever. and the teachers au was so sweet and soft and made me feel really happy when i read it so thats on this list too - i will be going back to it whenever im sad.
- Down with the Recipe, Bake from the Heart by Juno // the way i grinned from ear to ear reading every single line of this fic and its only 4 chapters in (well 5 now but i havent read the latest one yet)??? i need to go back through and leave some detailed comments because the whole thing is golden. im obsessed with all the niche british references and also the way that little snippets of canon and speech are entwined perfectly into the au. despite being the same each chapter, the format never seems repetitive or boring and each chapter i was so excited to see how tayce and awhora would interact. its amazing
(honourable mention for Juno’s other fic Chase the Shadows Away too as it was also super cute and although i dont normally want my escape from the awful things going on in the world to relate to said awful things, I gave it a read because of how much i loved bake off and im so glad i did!! it made me feel nice and warm and reminded me that we can still fall in love despite the pandini!!)
- Something More by pureCAMP // again i havent had time to leave a comment about this but i loved it sooooo much. as a girl group fan (and someone whos tiktok has decided to show them band memeber dating conspiracy theories every day for some unknown reason) this fic was right up my alley and it delivered. one minute I was laughing at lawrence roasting the government and the next i was in awe at awhora wanting to wipe tayce’s smile off her face with her lips. plus the background Diamond Chaney was super cute!
-  Don’t Just Stand There Staring Honey (Try to Move Your Feet) by Pinkgrapefruit // again this is another fic that plays with chronology/flashbacks which is something I love and it did it so perfectly, blending them into modern day so that i really got to know tayce and awhora. theres singing in the car to taylor swift (ps grapefruit if you see this i will read folklore eventually), playstation and slow dancing - what more could you want from a pair of not totally useless lesbians???
Honourable mentions to Just Below the Surface by Phryne which is super cute and funny and i think you should know (im thinking of you) by zyan which lives in my head rent free to the point where i asked someone to write it ahhaha. its 2am and im tired but just know i have love for these too! and everyone whose ever wrote taywhora even if i havent read it...
ask me my top 5 anything!!
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kim-lexie · 5 years ago
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january rewind.
music.
‘dreams come true’ by NCT127. my goodness this song what a blessing and gift from our boys. 
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‘lay back’ by verivery. my goodness this slaps. i stan.
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sf9 comeback. OUR BOYS S E R V E D. this was stellar, the concept superior. the visuals, the vocals, the choreography. like yes yes and yes. the whole album was incredible. my fave tracks ‘like the hands held tight’ and “shh”.
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‘lion’ by (g)-idle. im not into girl groups, so I've actually never looked into this group but dang lion is a bop and i love this track, and it makes me feel like boss.
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‘any song’ by zico. this challenge is precious and has been stuck on repeat. 
dramas and movies. *spoiler alert*
parasite. i saw this a while ago and dang am i excited to say i was ahead of the hype. i must be honest i was intrigued because (1) a foreign language film was going to be at my local cinema (LIKE WOAH) and (2) CHOI WOO SHIK. so i just had to get my friends to go see it. i went in blind. i had no idea what the premise was what was gonna go down. NO IDEA. and it was unexpected intriguing and beautifully filmed. i left the film wondering and pondering the concept. you best believe i watched all the videos about the nuggets that i definitely missed in the first viewing. it is a film that makes you question and engage in discussion with those around you. i enjoyed it.
seriously incredible looking at the oscars and seeing that they won BEST PICTURE. a foreign language never winning in that category is wild. honestly never watch these shows because its always the same people and white washed. but dang i hope this opens peoples eyes to see that whole new worlds are waiting to be discovered if only they would allow themselves to be open to seeing them. 
would recommend to everyone to jump into the discussion and enjoy the film because it really makes you think...
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bring it on ghost. this was a good one. i saw that it was added to netflix and gave it a watch. i enjoyed all the characters and i am so glad that she wasn’t actually a ghost but a spirit that was able to wake back up and have a happy ending. i love the main leads character as he is trying to raise enough money to get rid of the “gift” that was bestowed upon him from the demon spirit. but this terrifying gift to see ghosts brings him to his now, love (cue awwwww). overall it was slightly terrifying but i appreciate the comedic relief that the two guys had from the university. i would give it a 7.5 out of 10. 
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chocolate.  this one really got me. the flashbacks and character development. however, it had its slow moments that really made me pause and question will i even have a happy ending should i finish this. but seriously thankful i did. there were so many precious moments between the characters, and the friendship that were short but remained with the main characters from the hospice. it was interesting to see how each episode developed and showed us new friends that were only to be with us a short while but impacted the lives of our main leads dramatically. but because of you i could come this far. one of my fave quotes:
‘i came to get you. i wanted you to get more rest. but i missed you way too much.’ 
‘i wanted to rest with you too.’ 
‘as long as well hold on to hope nothing will break us down.’ 
i also greatly appreciate how it all became about food in the end. like seriously all the sadness and grief and they made it about the one love for food. i would rate this an 8 out of 10.
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when the camilla blooms. dang i held out to watch this because everyone was talking about it and me and my know it all attitude was like it can't be that great. BUT DANG! the reason everyone was talking about it was because it is SOOO FREAKING GOOD. honestly, it reminds me so much of strong woman do bong soo. bc there are cute romantic scenes and great comedic elements and characters, but dang these scary dudes are scary...
first off, yong-sik this man is too precious and there were so many incidents that reiterated how precious/tenderhearted his character is. for example, when he was like “shouldn't we talk about last night, because i couldn't sleep a wink last night” when referring to them holding hands. him getting super jealous, and was like “dongbaek, you must hold my hand hurry!”. it was hilarious when we all thought he finally got up the courage to ask her over to his place, and her to accept for it to be a request to wash his hair because he can't with his burns. *dead*
i love pil-gu. and i love how everyone loves pil-gu because he is a great kid. he’s funny, i.e. saying to jong-ryeol (his biological dad) you’re not that great, then being semi bribed by the latest gam. his sass is ICONIC, ‘i don’t spin tops with my ears’, when referring to jong-ryeol telling him to stop playing to listen to him. i love that song-sik shows up to the baseball game and becomes “a man with a drone” to protect pil-gu. i hate how he was like i need to leave my mom for her to be happy and he bottled it up inside, this poor little nugget. he soon realizes and gives it all back bc he wants to stay with his mom. and nothing can bribe him away from the most precious thing to him. 
dong-baek is such a freaking strong character! she was bomb, the character development was insane. i feel like this quote from the end really captures it:
��aren’t you just sick and tired of being intimidated all the time? people keep acting up because i’m nice to them. i’m a person who’s capable of breaking someones with my fist. and i’m a fighter who’s able to protect my own kid…i decided to become the strongest mother in the world from now on.”
she went from being chill and letting people walk all over her to becoming a boss! i also love that yong-sik allowed her to be a boss and protected her to be able to breathe easy. 
“consider your life as a never ending festival. and i’ll make sure you can live as immaturely as possible.” -yong sik 
because she had to grow up so fast. like he is seriously the best. waking her up and allowing her to believe in herself again. and their moment of her finally saying “i love you.” and him like, “i knew it.” 
jeong-suk, her mother. this was such a sad storyline. the woman who abandoned her at the orphanage, came back after she found out her time was limited. her mother was always looking out. being there during the accident saving her. saving insurance policy. watching after pil-gu at day are. she did her best to compensate for abandoning her. freaking lost it when both her mothers, (biological and deok-sun, yong-sik’s mother) freaking knew each other prior to the current time. from when dong-baek was a little nugget and when deok-sun was pregnant with yong-sik. like what a full circle!
the whole killer aspect really threw me because everything was going good and then you'd have those cuts to the present day with bodies being found, and i did not appreciate thinking it was our main lead for the longest time. me preparing my heart to break from episode one. and then she goes and does things like going into semi-abandoned building to meet with someone who’s says they have your scooter that your missing coworker left somewhere. like this chick is gonna die. thankfully she didn’t and we got the happy ending we all wanted!
i seriously appreciated that they included the scene with pil-gu as a major league baseball player, and our happy OTP watching him on tv like thank you drama writers. i would seriously rate this a 10 out of 10.
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tayegi · 8 years ago
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Hey lu! I just read equilibrium's new update and its so good! I have been waiting to see the drama unfold once OC realises that Jungkook likes her. This has got to be one of my favourite writings from you! The storyline is so fucked up and sad yet i could totally see this happening in real life. Take your time to write the next part and i'll like you to know that you have found yourself a loyal fan here! Have a great day!
Ah im glad that you liked the update! And as strange as it is, theres a bit of realism, huh? bc real life relationships are never perfect. and this is such a level of fucked up that it could srsly happen in our fucked up world haha. Thank you so much and i hope you have a great day as well!
Anonymous said:If I were OC in equilibrium I definitely wouldn't have continued or even gotten into the relationship to begin with. Idk maybe I'm too prideful but if anything I would be MORE upset over being in love with someone who obviously cares more about someone else WHILE in a relationship with both. Like I'd have to witness the extent to which the person I love values someone else more than me, be constantly reminded that even if I'm with him and he cares about me to a degree, I will always be 2nd best.
wait really? This is so interesting to hear! I mean, i completely understand your perspective, but i feel like it would be hard for me to resist... Like imagine if it was IRL Jimin and he wanted to share you with an outside party. Could you really resist that? I am an weak bitch and id prob crumble in seconds D: 
Anonymous said:I really don't understand why all of these anons are so upset with the Mc and not the boys as well? The three of them are clearly using each other, it's not just her using Jk. Anyways, I love your stories and this one is fabulous as well, and those stupid anons need to chill out. You're fantastic and have every right to put them in their place! I look forward to the next chapter!
exactly! The internalized misogyny on this site is fucking ridiculous. But all of your kind comments make me realize that these idiots are the minority so im super grateful
Anonymous said:Equilibrium is so compelling. It's essentially a story like a chair with three legs- if one breaks, the whole structures collapses. Each person is only willing on keeping eachother around for their own gain. If anyone should be blamed for this, it should be Jungkook for simply suggesting the polygamous relationship knowing full well what it could mean for him specifically. Even more so, he's the only person "playing the field" taking advantage of Jimin's affection and OC's desperation - C Anon
Anonymous said:Continuing on my last ask. I also can't help but to notice that both Jimin or OC are particularly biased. They probably didn't intend to act that way but they do. But they also respect the "third wheel" of their ideal relationship respectively. Jungkook didn't do that. He intentionally tends to Jimin's needs knowing that's what he wants for no other reason than to keep OC away from Jimin. Cunning John Junglecock... someone is going to get hurt with this relationship built on lies - C Anon
Yes exactly! Theyre all pretty messed up, but Jungkook seems to be the most conniving of them all. I love the way you’ve thought this through and your interpretation is so spot on! Thanks so much for reading so carefully ^^
Anonymous said:Now that ive read chapter 10....how the FUCK are ppl mad at oc for this mess? Oc is dense for not picking up on jimin being willing to sell her for a corn chip in comparison to kookie, but the boys are by far the worst. They should've broken up after a week, with everything as toxic is it is. Both have ulterior motives when they say yes to the relationship. Everybody is in competition. And there is like, ZERO communication between them until kookie confessed in this chapter. It's a hot mess.
i know right??? seriously asdfjlksdfjk. tho i wouldnt go as far as saying that jimin is worse than the OC. theyre pretty damn equivalent. But no one’s innocent here haha. It’s just a truly screwed up situation D: 
Anonymous said:You are queen and I love you. I literally don't give a flying fuck what anyone else says about OC being a 'whatever-the-fuck-they-said' cause mygOD ARE YOU A FABULOUS WRITER. Fuck me Equilibrium is amazing. I'm slightly tipsy rn, but I know good literature when I read it, and I am leaving it open to reread it tomorrow when I am sober, but even I can see that the characters are all equally using each other, and each of them are to blame for this shit-storm of a relationship. Perhaps JK even more?
ahahahaha this is amazing! I’m so glad that you are tipsy! TAKE AN EXTRA SHOT FOR ME!
and i know right? I feel like Jimin and the OC have been played. Theyre innocent idiots. But then again, it’s not like they were forced into doing anything. it was their own free will :/ 
Anonymous said:Gahh ch10 was so intense! I agree with others that all three are wrong to manipulate each other but idk i found myself feeling kinda sorry for Jimin by the end of 10? The way I've interpreted it so far is that he probably felt the most inclined to just go with it and agree to the poly relationship, or at least that's how I read it, and yeah fine maybe he hasn't treated yn quite as 'nicely' but like he hasn't condemned her for also being affiliated with jungkook, but then again he's using this(1)
Anonymous said:(2) relationship to be with jungkook but yeah sorry I'm repeating myself but I really get the sense that he's just been kinda going along with it rather than outright manipulating them both, and yeah his resolve has been kinda breaking over the last few chapters but the flashbacks suggest that Jimin is at heart caring and just lovesick with jungkook whereas the oc and jungkook seem to have an unhealthy obsession w jimin and y/n respectively. Sorry I'm rambling but yeah thx for the amazing fic!
yeah i can see it that way! I feel like jimin has a better sense of morality and guilt than the other two. They are unhealthily obsessed, but jimin genuinely cares about them both, so it’s a bit sad. :/ But you can also see it from another dimension-- Jimin knew the OC liked him, Jungkook knew Jimin liked him and they both are playing their respective parties to get to what they want. However, the OC did not know that Jungkook liked him until the latest chapter, so she was pretty much innocent until now. so yeah. it’s debatable who’s the most innocent, but it sure as hell isnt jjk lol 
Anonymous said:Equilibrium is amazing for me because the longer you think about it the worse the characters get likeJimin at first seems like the purest one but then you realize he knew the OC was always being bullied and used and she depended on him because he was her first friend and he still made the decision to use her once again.Also I feel like part of her feelings for him have something to do with her feelings she came from an environment where she was never treated well and then suddenly here he was.
YES EXACTLY! It’s so hard to tell. bc jimin does genuinely care about the OC, but at the same time, the OC wasn’t manipulating anyone or stringing along anymore until the latest chapter where she finally broke and turned into one of them. So yeah... it’s the lucifer effect, man. The situation will change you 
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comicteaparty · 7 years ago
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July 20th, 2017 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on July 20th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on There Was a War by aislinn e.
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RebelVampire
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing There Was a War by aislinn e~! (https://tapas.io/series/TWAW) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
mathtans
I knew that would be the question, and yet I'm having trouble picking something out. The explanation of vanishing into the underworld and seeing God I found amusing, perhaps I'll choose that.
RebelVampire
i really liked that scene. that was a pretty funny line. but i also liked that scene because i think it showed a more human side as it were to her captors in a way. especially with the more recent page where one of them is trying to apologize.
mathtans
Yeah, that's true, it made them more than the faceless guards (though I'm horrible with names...). And the "she wasn't there!" was amusing too in the discussion.
The apology thing in the latest update surprised me.
RebelVampire
really? im more glad it went that way because from the beginning i felt they werent awful guards persay. especially cause i feel like a big motif of this comic is about a lot of people doing tons of stuff they dont want to do for the war. and i often got the impression the guards are not particularly fond of participating in the war either. just gotta do what they were told.
mathtans
Oh, I'm glad it's going that way too, just I hadn't figured on the discussion going there somehow. I guess, while I don't know the legend that this is based on, I'd thought it'd be more focussed on the humanizing of the main characters.
War sucks. I wonder if the war in the title references the one that nearly wiped out the tribe to the south...? (I might have misinterpreted things.)
RebelVampire
well to be fair i think its more messing the entire war. cause they are still very much at war. i think its using past tense cause of the prologue. cause its framing this as a story thats being told almost. so in a way the entire story is a flashback you could say.
mathtans
Valid point.
Even if it's not necessarily active (though I guess it must be, for Balor to have been brought out), neither side really understands the other. So tensions are high and things can erupt at any time.
I wonder to what extent Cath can see the future.
RebelVampire
yeah i feel like her powers are a bit vague. but probably intentionally so. i get the impression she cant see very far into the future tho and i feel like a lot of her power is probably going to be based on her ability to interpret
mathtans
Yeah, not very far, and maybe only if she's thinking about it? Unless it's something key?
She must be able to teleport too, since she did a lot of travelling and yet was still able to get back to the pool. But maybe it's a thing where she can only get there.
I'm not up on my Irish mythology. (I think it's Irish?)
RebelVampire
idk. idk how based on mythology its supposed to be. if its irish definitely out of my expertise.
and maybe tbh i find their camp layout hard to understand XD
like ok the pool is underground but whats its relationship with the rest of the area
mathtans
I remember in the Q&A a mention of mythology and when I looked it up I think it was Irish.
Yeah, I haven't really put much thought into where things are.
I get a bit taken in by the art style, the sort of flowing down the page, like it's all a bit nebulous anyway.
Not a bad thing, btw. In my opinion.
RebelVampire
yeah i think a lot of the pages at least take super advantage of the scroll format. particularly the scene where balor falls down into the pool for the first time. cause you really get the impression of balor falling down into it
mathtans
Oooh yeah, that'd slipped my mind.
Something about the art that's really cool, that I only really picked up on when I peeked at the mythology - Balor has an evil eye. And here it's his left eye, which is always in shadow or closed. Only his right eye's "normal".
And my gendering sucks, those should probably be "her" and "She".
I don't remember if the original Balor was male though?
RebelVampire
i dont think so cause they refer to balor as princess and daughter.
mathtans
Okay, the site where I looked it up talks about a "he". Maybe I just looked up the name and ran into totally the wrong myth. The "evil eye" thing seems to fit though.
RebelVampire
oh wait do you mean original balor as in a mythological one? cause i didnt know such a balor existed XD
mathtans
Yeah, there's an original Balor in Irish Myth. Seems to be a guy. With an evil eye. Don't know if this is related.
RebelVampire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balor
mathtans
I got curious after reading the Q&A.
RebelVampire
thanks wikipedia
mathtans
So could be a different take on that story, or could be the internet only knows one version of a mythology that's much broader.
RebelVampire
more likely a different take
but this explains the framing of the prologue
QUESTION 2. Cethlenn and Balor reveal the humans and the Fomor have vastly different ideas on how the war started. Humans believe the Fomor eat people and destroy their settlements, while the Fomor believe the humans were tricked by their gods into warring with them. How do you think the war started? How will these differing viewpoints be relevant to the story?
mathtans
Truth's probably somewhere in the middle, I suppose....
RebelVampire
but back to what i was saying, if this is a diff take on the myth, i feel like the prologue is saying "yeah here we have this myth about how evil balor was but nope the truth of myths are not easy."
mathtans
That makes sense. I like when things are made not easy. ^.^
Interesting that Fomor don't have magic, and humans do. I wonder if that played into the start of the war.
As to viewpoints, pretty obvious that the humans have bought into the propaganda, based on that guy in the cart. Meaning emotions will beat out "truth", if there can be said to be a truth.
It was good to see him, to start seeing that side of the story too.
I also confess, I'm a bit shallow, and like the brighter colours. ^_^
RebelVampire
i do like that the comic is a big more vibrant now.
i think humans having magic at least partially explains why they even stand a chance against the fomor
mathtans
It provides a contrast between the worlds well.
RebelVampire
since the fomor are huge
mathtans
That's a good point. Explains why they feel the need to pull out Balor every so often too, why they can't handle it, and why they try to remove the magician humans.
RebelVampire
in all honesty i kind of feel like its the humans fault the war started cause i feel like they sent the first blow. cause i believe theres some truth to the story balor tells in song. so the humans probably did show up, got spooked by the first fomor they saw, and killed that fomor out of fear. and then the fomor were mad and retaliated. and then things escalated
mathtans
That would make sense. Though there's also different tribes of Fomor, who probably look better or worse - do you remember if it was said whether it started in the South? Like, maybe they're the scarier ones and it's all racism from there.
RebelVampire
i think the song mentioned the war starting in the south
so it could be theyre scarier seeming
ok its more vague
it says "son of the South East"
mathtans
I suppose I could look this up. -.- Oh, good for you on checking. And now they're headed North, so people could be seeing what they expect, not differentiating the different types.
Like, even the guards are different, one has more prominent teeth, I think?
RebelVampire
yeah. although the fomor just may have vastly more genetic differences than humans by comparison. but it could in large just be an issue of racism at play.
mathtans
Well, now I'm looking up Fomorians...
RebelVampire
haha you have me at a disadvantage cause i usually dont read Q&As. but thats just bias from doing reviews every month cause i cant really base story judgements on outside info.
mathtans
Yeah, that's understandable. Plus you have a lot to read as it is, I don't always go through an entire archive. Though I did in this case.
Looks like humans weren't the first to challenge Fomorians in legend. Huh. I'm learning stuff.
Kind of tangential to what's going on here though.
(Previous challengers died of "an epidemic".)
Anyhue. War. What is it good for? I suspect one of the protagonists, if not both, are doomed to die... but maybe that brings peace?
RebelVampire
the description for the comic mentions that the story has a sad ending. i get the distinct impression that they both die...and then the war continues. forever. cause if we assume it follows the legend and balor somehow leads the people, someone will just replace balor. although i feel like if balor dies the fomor will be at a huge disadvantage
mathtans
That's true. They won't have their ace in the hole (uh, kinda literally) any more. Maybe the whole point is the humans win, because that's where we're at now, and history was written by the victors.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Throughout the comic so far, Balor’s main conflict is being used as a tool of war due to the evil eye curse Balor possesses. Why do you think Balor has this curse? Is it truly a curse or is something larger at work? Do you think Balor will somehow get rid of the curse of the evil eye and gain freedom?
mathtans
Oh, that's a good question. Pretty sure he won't gain his freedom, in fact I somehow feel like he's gonna end up using it in a tragic way. But I don't know where he got it from. Particularly if the Fomor don't use magic.
I'm usually pretty good at offering theories, but I'm kind of drawing a blank. Maybe because I feel like a proper theory would take from the mythology.
Oooh, thought. Maybe the curse comes from something she's GONNA do. Like, she gets cursed back into her past/from her birth because of something that happens later. In a "brought it on yourself" sort of way.
Ugh, and my gender pronouns are all over the place.
RebelVampire
lol thatd be trippy but possible for something mythology based.
granted im not sure its a curse. i like to think like some unknown power wanted to give the fomor a little advantage
cause of how far the war has gone
mathtans
Humans might have the power to curse, is the thing. Though that's a good point, maybe she comes by it "naturally", so that there's an equilizer.
Sometimes I wonder what the "gods" are thinking.
(Like, not just with this comic, but in general.)
I wonder if there's a way to counteract it. That hasn't been found yet.
Not in terms of a cure so much as something that can be done to stay alive... though a cure might be interesting too. Even if I suspect it would be a deception of some sort.
RebelVampire
there is a cure. its called death.
/shot
joking aside i hadnt considered that maybe it was a curse from the humans
which would be hilariously ironic
as it brought about their own destruction
mathtans
Well, there's that too, ouch. Yeah, or a curse from the human gods, meaning the fomor aren't wrong in saying the humans are being coaxed deeper into this war.
"Please kill all these types, we'll even make them extra powerful to give you a reason to fear them."
RebelVampire
im really curious as far as the story goes how involved the human gods are involved. like...weve never seen one so are they even real in this story? cause while the existence of the fomor leads to the idea that of course they must be, theres room for doubt. so rather than the gods themselves manipulating the humans, it was evil humans saying "oh yeah the gods told us this stuff." and since the war is so old no one remembers enough to question it
mathtans
Oooh, that's a really good point.
Word of mouth causing more problems, much like the way things got played up for that farmer who wasn't even there.
(I keep calling him a farmer, I don't know why, he was just in a cart and had a place nearby... I'm horrible for stereotyping...)
I'm reminded of the "subtle flirting" "less subtle flirting" thing though, that was amusing. I like the occasional amusement particularly when things are a bit bleak otherwise.
RebelVampire
yeah im glad this comic does have some of the lighter lines throne it to keep things from being soul crushing.
the farmer person (cause might as well continue stereotyping) made me laugh just cause of how wildly crazy that version was in a way
although that scene made me really hmmm at cethlenn's origins because she seemed a bit spoiled by not being afraid of the war
mathtans
I guess I saw that as youthful optimism.
Maybe she thinks her magic can protect her too.
RebelVampire
it could be youthful optimism. could just be her personality too. she's a bit spunky. i mean she did recently sneak into balor's cell and is like "yeah w/e its cool im cool were all cool."
mathtans
Hah. That's true. It makes her a pretty good counterpoint to Balor, might explain why Balor's happier around her.
Maybe that's also the source of the initial fascination, to some extent.
RebelVampire
probably. tho to a degree im sure its balor just clinging to something to keep sane. cause balor's life is pretty depressing.
mathtans
Truth.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. The comic focuses quite a bit on the developing relationship between Cethlenn and Balor. However, the themes of war and its effects are always looming in the background. What do you think the ultimate fate of the two will be? Will they be able to stay together or will they eventually be found out and torn apart in the spirit of their war torn lands?
mathtans
Yeah, I don't see it ending well. One or both dying. Just... it's war, and I get this tragic vibe.
Romeo and Juliet (or Juliet and Juliet, I dunno).
RebelVampire
yeah that last one. although they may at least die together. maybe theyll start there own rebellion faction. and try to end the war by going to war
cause logic
mathtans
Hm. I wonder, maybe Ceth dies, and Balor somehow turns her vibe on the Fomor in grief, and then realizes what she's done, and suicide? ... I like the dying together better. o.o
I wonder how long it'll take though. Like, will there be a time skip? They're both awful young here.
RebelVampire
idk. although honestly, im not even sure what the time passage is. its really vague and kind of bothers me. cause it effects a bit how sorry i feel for balor. like has balor been doing evil eye stuff for a few months or a few years? that makes a really huge difference
mathtans
That's true. How do Fomor even age? Was it implied anywhere?
At the same time, I kind of get the idea that when you're effectively in a prison, time becomes rather meaningless.
Oh, one thing I wanted to mention, the language thing with Ceth's real name versus what Balor called her, I thought that was clever and fun too.
RebelVampire
oh thats a really good point. i never considered that the time was intentionally vague because such is the way of prison. thats a very interesting interpretation.
i thought that was a cute scene. especially cethlenn trying to teach balor how to say her name right.
mathtans
Sometimes I'm interesting. It also means we don't really know how long they were playing together in the pool versus being stuck alone. Time expands and contracts depending on mood.
Heh, right. Maybe that should've been my fave scene. (I guess I like the more comedic stuff.)
Maybe the fact that there's drawings on the walls can act as an indication.
RebelVampire
thats true cause balor was putting up a count which im gonna assume was days.
mathtans
Was there a count along with other things? How can you measure a day though, if you can't see any sun? Maybe it was times he got pulled out.
RebelVampire
i think theres a hole in balor's prison tho so im gonna assume balor could see the passage. but to be fair the count couldve been something else. and idk if balor kept up with it.
since i didnt really mention it, i think my fave scene was actually the flashback scene of balor with the older fomor. cause i think it was just a very warm scene that showed the fomor arent always these war torn fighters and i think it gave a really good perspective on the war.
mathtans
I think the light through the hole is only when people are looking for him. But yeah, hard to say.
That's a good point. Important to have, particularly as a counterpoint to the human stuff later.
RebelVampire
yeah although id like to see more of the humans
cause mostly weve just seen them be prisoners or become fried chicken
mathtans
I guess I'm a bit torn on that topic. It'd be good, but at the same time, the more that gets shown the less the imagination can play around.
Just loaded the site again and noticed the chapters are denoted with little "chalk markings", that's a neat touch.
Reminds me of one other praise, the way expressions are done, in terms of the artwork.
RebelVampire
i like the artsy style of the comic in general. now while admittedly its not a style i would go for for personal entertainment persay, i think it works for what the comic is trying to go for. i think overall the art really expresses and hits the mark for every tone and mood it wants to emphasis and show
mathtans
Agreed. Impressive shading. Even the font choice has a Celtic feel to it somehow. Maybe that's just me.
(I think it's the E's.)
RebelVampire
nah i did get that impression too. that there was a celtic feel to the font.
RebelVampire
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