#also is anon really trying to make me feel bad about the amount of fanfic I read
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llycaons · 7 months ago
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I’ll make this my last message since I don’t want you having to spend all day on another 15-paragraph essay because that’s just sad. I’d just like to state a point that apparently didn’t come across in my original message—one I didn’t think I *had* to state—which is that fanfiction *isn’t* published fiction. It’s amateur, free content on the internet and shouldn’t be held to the same critical standards and practices as critiquing trad pub fiction. That’s why it’s bad etiquette to, say, put fic on Goodreads, for example. Again, didn’t think I’d have to say that to someone who obviously spends so much time (so, *so* much time) reading fanfic, but here we are!
And just a note: if it’s ableist to say the word “weird” to you specifically and insinuate you, specifically, should go outside—which I *know* you do, I literally used to follow you lmao—then I sincerely apologize. That being said, I *know* you go outside, so I fail to see how that’s a broader shot at the housebound when… you are not. And I know that. And it’s shitty that you’d turn around and banter with your mutual who’s calling me a cunt. That’s fair game somehow, but “weird” is too far? Ok lol. Guess your pearl-clutching over what’s problematic only goes one way. Good to know 👍 Will hard block then! Cheers
it's a good thing that this is their last message but since they're hard-blocking it feels like a waste to even answer this one. I don't even have any other arguments since I was so thorough and said everything I wanted and ig they have no actual rebuttals so I'm taking this win. 'don't want me to spend all day writing 15 paragraphs' yeah right, they just don't want their argument to be DEMOLISHED again lmao and I don't think it's sad, I like covering all my bases. man I smoked that one. and I didn't spend all day on it, it took like half an hour? I was at work all day man lmao. and now I'm being held responsible for things other ppl have said? I mean I stand with my mutuals, but I literally never said that stuff in the actual reply
like I never said fanfic was just like real books, I just said you need to be held responsible for what media you create? did anon even READ my carefully crafted responses? friends. I am bereft. they're asking like this was an obvious oversight on my part but it's just inane to act like not being published equates to freedom from all criticism, which is what I SAID. it's not formal criticism, it's just what I think. you remember thinking? I can't turn it off! and since when was my SINGLE page a goodreads account?
as soon as they pull out the term 'pearl-clutching'...man how did this cunt used to follow me. that's right. I didn't even call then a cunt earlier when kiera did (WHAT bantering??? I posted my response AFTER I got this message) but now I WILL. you gotta be careful about who you tell to go outside, anon. and calling ppl a cunt isn't ableist lmao and I think it's perfectly reasonable in this situation. also if they used to follow me wouldn't they know my views already? what did they think would happen??? and since WHEN was saying cunt problematic???
and furthermore I appreciate the apology bc the comment about my tagging WAS out of line but irrelevant. my bigger complaint was more that 'weird' was a really vague criticism of my behavior. like nothing in ANY of those messages was compelling arguments that I should feel bad about what I was doing they just kept leaning on the morality of the words 'weird' and 'strange'. also just because you used to follow doesn't me you know me as a person?? ugh I just have to call them a presumptuous cunt again I'm afraid.
however this is bar none THE stupidest person I've ever argued on anon with so I will be sorry to see them go. it was so easy to win their weak, unsubstantial, shame-and-normalcy-based but somehow unapologetically amoral arguments...well it looks like I've written another lengthy response but that's fine, I like to chat on my blog to my neighbors and friends and anon shan't shame me out of that one either. how are we all this morning.
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strawdool · 2 months ago
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Let me tell you Straw, your Modern AU has given me an immense amount of inspiration. At one point I would have liked to write some fanfics around it but it wasn't really in my right to do so, so I didn't. I think I like this AU in particular because in order for Lamb and Narinder to even remotely make it work they have to fight through a ton of issues. I like seeing characters get completely broken by the consequences of their actions and then learn how to fight their own demons. It's also a bit of hit or miss on whether people like this relationship development, but I really like the kind of relationships in fiction where the characters have to really fight for it. It's all well and good to have a story where the characters fall in love instantly and after maybe one calamity or two, they set off in the sunset. But for me, I like the relationships more where you aren't sure where things are going. There's clear signs but the two characters really have to want that relationship to make it work and fight through a lot of problems. It can suck seeing the characters stumble but in the end to me, it's very rewarding that once they have (hopefully) solved said issues, they will probably have a stronger and healthier relationship than most. To me, any kind of foundation that has seen struggle and survived it will always be stronger than one that has never experienced conflict. In other words, a relationship that could survive its issues and find compromise and resolution I think is more likely to last in the end. This is not always the case but in fiction we can force happy endings right? That said though, I have to really wonder if your modern Narinder and Lamb will ever get their act together to actually forge a peaceful and successful life together. I don't know if you have a full story planned out or not but if Narinder has already screwed up to the point of a breakup then there may be no recovery from that. The path forward I see is him finally addressing his problems and trying to turn his life around. As the Lamb, hopefully they can find a life where they're not in threat of the outside world. Maybe the two could eventually reconcile and form a long lasting friendship even if it never fully repairs. I'm just always hoping that characters will learn from their mistakes even though often in real life some people never learn and will constantly do the same horrible things. If I had to say what the most appealing part of your au is, it's the hope aspect. It's the hope that someday Narinder will realize what a trash bucket he is and do something about it. It's the hope that the Lamb can realize their self worth. Maybe it'll end with Narinder, a fully cleaned up man with a plan, formally apologizing to the Lamb for everything he's done and after a cordial conversation he disappears, on to a new life. The Lamb doesn't really know what becomes of him but hopes that he will do some good with his life. Maybe somewhere in the back of their head they'll lament too that Narinder figured things out too late. I don't know, thinking out loud at this point. But hey, this is a very interesting AU and it has sparked far more ideas than just those. So have a good day and I very much look forward to more if you happen to do so.
me when anon goes into a full rant about my au i feel so happy that my au had make you have a lot of inspo <33333
anyway answering your question, Narinder and Lamb spiral after the breakup: lamb bc they were betrayed at their most vulnerable and Narinder trying to justify his bad action with "they deserved it" but deep down knowing he fucked up badly but he doesnt want to accept that and so he doubles down and he gets into a very bad place mentally.
but while Lamb finally opens up to their insecurities and their situations to goat and ratau after all. Narinder had already pushed everyone away; no family, no friends, nothing.
it takes a while until one day Narinder finally comes to the realization how badly he is and starts getting his life together. (i like to say that it all starts with cleaning his apartment lol)
he doesnt contact lamb for a whole year at this point he even got a job and is now reconnecting with his kids, until he remember Lamb and finally accepts that the way he treated them and all the blame the put on them wasnt right.
And so he tries to find them to talk things throught (goes to a point he kinda starts stalking them for a bit) and when he finally gets to them Goat is the one who interrupts him with punching him in the face. but mf doesnt give up which results in him getting his ass beaten many times.
For Lamb and Narinder to finally get on good terms it takes a while, if reconstructing their friendship already took them months, rekindle the romantic relationship its another can of worms that both try to take it slowly and not rush things. Narinder in that he becomes really nervous, afraid to hurt them again and Lamb tries to takes things step by step specially for trusting him again.
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getitoutofmymindwrites · 9 months ago
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Actually the amount of fanfics I’ve read where the couple does get back after he cheated on the girl is soooo much. Where are these I’m hearing that they don’t get back together?! Someone please give recommendations!
I’ve been cheated on not once not twice not 3 times BUT 4 TIMES 😝. I finally learned my lesson and stoped going back cos I was just being stupid and then I realized that I should stop fighting for someone who was disrespecting me. 
As for Joel, I don’t see a redemption. I’m sorry it’s just ugh. He brought that girl to his HOUSE the HOME he had with his WIFE. Joel is a grown ass man. He knew what he was doing. There’s no excuse betray his wife. And there’s also no way he’s fully sincere begging for forgiveness cos he knew what he was doing with another woman. He put himself first and didn’t care about how hurt his wife would be. To be put in that position is humiliating and oh so painful. I remember asking myself why over and over. I thought my love with exes would be more than enough for the both of us but it was just that. My love for them was more than the love they had for me. Cos if someone loves you and has their heart set on your relationship, future, and soul, they don’t do that. I wish I knew that earlier. I did love them but it wasn’t fair that it was just me putting the effort to make everything better. Also it was annoying after finding out about the cheating cos that’s when the men put in the effort. Funny how that works. 
But yeh those images and memories stay with you forever. Even if you say you forgive and forget. It’s not physically possible. 
If anyone wants unsolicited advice, don’t let your past memories of love keep you in the relationship. The months or even years of your relationship didn’t mean Jack shit to him or else he would’ve be committed to only you. The bad will forever be outweighed by the good. What I mean is that you will look at the relationships past different cos you won’t stop connecting it to what he did. You will try to let it go and build new memories to get rid of what he did but nothing will change what he caused to happen. Back to what I said earlier, don’t let your past memories of love keep you in the relationship. Those good memories will never have a future where they won’t lead to what he did. Don’t use them as an excuse to hold on to what you had. He didn’t care. 
I really tried. I did everything. Therapy, couples counseling, speaking with my pastor, taking a small break and then getting back together. But it was never the same. I have so many regrets. One of them is that I wish that every time that happened to me, I had let go of the relationship whenever they did. 
Totally up to you how you continue. I don’t know if reading more would be healthy for me cos I usually don’t like to read cheating stuff but there was something special about yours. 
It feels good to let everything out. Sorry. Maybe I said a whole bunch of nothing. 
Dear anon,
I'm so sorry this happened to you, no one should ever have to go through that emotional abuse.
Please, don't apologize, I'm glad you reached out and felt better by speaking your mind and I'm also so thankful and humbled for giving this fic a chance despite the warnings and the memories that it probably brought up in you.
I have to admit that you make some very good points. I do believe that is very hard to let go of these memories, even if you forgive your partner; your mind will always go back to that moment, like a stain on a white shirt you can't ignore, no matter how hard you try.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with me, I really appreciate it..
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skinnytuna · 2 years ago
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(i'm anon who replied to your long post about audience validation and art)
thank you for your response, it's very interesting. it's actually kinda funny because I used to be a person who never, ever shared anything I did with other people (online or in person). I wouldn't talk about the media I enjoyed or showed the drawings I made. it always felt too intimate - I was only doing it for myself and so having other people's eyes on it wouldn't add anything to my enjoyment apart from shame from not liking or creating the 'perfect' thing. if I imagined what I would do in the future, it was only from the perspective of what I would actually create, rather than the validation it would give me.
and then my world view flipped, I guess as I became increasingly exposed to online validation. I still dont share anything I make but if I (indulgently) daydream about creating something, it is rarely purely the process of creation that I think about. I cant separate the stuff I do and the response I would get like I could as a kid. this is probably partly because of watching numbers rise online. but maybe it could also just be the sad reality of transitioning into adulthood? when you are young the stuff you make is never going to get you shit. but when you are older, you are expected to view the world with a transactional slant: whatever you give, you must get back in return.
idk how into fandoms you are but I love them because they are a way to remove that dependence on transaction (both monetary and inter-personal validation) we have. obviously, fandoms mostly exist in an online world and so some people are going to be more successful at creating than others (and some people might even manage to make a tiny amount of money) but mostly they are pretty equal. most artists (fic writers/fan artists) are only creating for the sake of creation. they like something, want to improve it or want to explore a world and so they create. some fanfic writers will never get past 100 kudos on a single work, but they still write thousands and thousands of more words. this is because, for them, writing is a hobby and a way to have fun. they are literally unable to monetise it, and the possible size of a response is often limited by the tiny size of a niche fandom.
fan fiction is wholly and unapologetically amateur. it can be a great quality, but writers have the freedom to create imperfect things and learn as they go. there are no critics, book sales or best seller lists - you can just make shit and put it out there if you want.
idk if any of that made sense but yeah
it's funny you say that about adulthood because there are so many like. 13 year old rappers now who are solely in it for the money or dont understand why they are doing it and their parents are encouraging them to do it for the money so like. childhood for us was very different to what childhood currently is, right now this year.
but i personally cant remember a time when i wasn't desperate for validation like when i was playing guitar when i was 8 or 10 i still had that "i hope im good enough i want to be good enough without trying" feeling it's just the people i wanted to impress were like, authority figures. i wanted my guitar teacher to think i was cool. i wanted my moms friends to think i was funny. i'm still afraid of doing anything i haven't already learned how to do, writing is the first New thing i've attempted in maybe my entire adulthood.
it's kind of funny, when i was younger i didn't realize how bad i was at writing music and that's the only reason i stuck to it long enough to learn anything. i was like laughably bad at it in high school and no one really went out of there way to grab me by the shoulders and say "hey! you suck at this! stop!" though a bunch of people did tell me it kinda sucked. i mostly just thought they were wrong. they weren't. but now part of me doesn't believe i could ever be any good at something that isn't that. like when i write fiction i know on a cognitive level if it ends up being good it's not because i worked hard or earned it or anything it's just a complete fluke. and i don't even really believe people when they tell me it's good. even though obviously i'm only posting it so people will tell me it's good.
in a way i feel like i'm sort of shifting back to the way i was in high school... every piece of art i make im like "this is the best shit ever" and then i post it and if people tell me it sucks im like "lol. incorrect. your tastes are Unrefined" and then i keep making more whatever crap whatever. which honestly is the best way to live i think. i have some people in my life who really like, respect and admire that i make whatever the fuck i want without ever really considering whether or not i should. which is funny because i have a lot of people in my life who are like, Normal artists, who Think before they make something, and try to make Good Things and i envy them greatly because it really comes through in the work.
though obviously as an evil bastard communist i am a strong believer that "Bad" Art Is Radical and "Good" Art is Bourgeois Idealism and i find myself constantly torn between, the allure of timesinks and iteration and the mystique of hyperprolific stream of consciousness artists and i feel like i'm the worst of both worlds by not being fully one way or the other! but i guess not everyone can be Lil B and not everyone can be Frank Ocean and some of us need to sit in between those two extremes...
look at all this me talking about how i never stop and think about the art while i'm stopping and thinking about the art... i'm an Olympic level liar rn.
i've never read a fanfiction in my life (outside of like.. homestuck smut when i was fifteen. which i guess Technically Counts.) but as the form is widely derided i'm sure it has the most artistic merit of any thing. i think a lot about what a world would be like where money and art are completely unrelated. and all art exists completely separate from how much dollars it can make a corporation. would being popular even matter? would people still seek fame... complicated questions. Way if we pees form butts
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yandereshingeki · 1 year ago
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Hmm I don’t know if I have anything interesting to say, I’m a very simple person that does very little, but I do love to read, especially fanfictions. Whenever I find a new book series or film series or anything I get super attached for months on end and try and squeeze every single fanfic I can get from it before I inevitably move on. Which brings me here to say I absolutely love love love your works. All of your writing I can say is perfection. Not to mention all of your drawings, it amazes me how so much talent is capable in one person. I kind of hate myself sometimes because you seem like such a cool and kind person, I’m a very silent reader I guess TT i barely interact with any content and it makes me feel bad because I would really love too but I get so scared. I see the normal posts you make and I want to comment or like. I did send a few anon asks in a while ago. About the pillow in the drawing you made with you and eren, (still super cute and amazing btw)
I was feeling brave that day lol
This looks like such a serious message because of all the full stops but it’s just a normal one TT i saw your reblog of wanting more people in your inbox so I’m just here to say hi and show my appreciation to you 🫶🏻
Sincerely a very scared anon ~~ 😗
I almost want to keep this ask to myself forever so I can hog it to myself and look at it whenever I’m sad but I wanna reply so here I am!
I can’t even begin to express how much it means to me that you like what I make. I honestly put my heart and soul into my creations so the fact that even one person cares so much really means the world to me.
I don’t mind that you’re a silent reader! I have to admit I am a lot of the time as well, sometimes it’s just easier to forget that silent readers are there and having a reminder like this is really nice. <3 You shouldn’t hate yourself for it, I understand how it is to be so scared of interacting lol (I am like that w almost everybody before I moot them, and even then im still nervous a lot of the time)
Also the fact that you think i’m cool makes me a bit weepy lol, I see myself as someone that’s so wimpy that any amount of pressure will make me fold DHEBJADB i promise you I don’t bite, I don’t even have teeth sharp enough to
idk theres so much I wanna say but it’s hard to put feelings into words!!
Very scared anon, I care for you so much thank you so much for this :( I really can’t reiterate it enough it means so much to me. I’m gonna screenshot this and print it out and frame it and look at it when I’m sad. I’ll give you the biggest hug and squeeze you so tight. Thank you so so much <33
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ohmygodshesinsane · 1 year ago
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Hello,
Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed the first few sentences of your Masquerade fic for Jilytober fest. It’s “insane” the amount of talent you have, my dear friend 🥺
I want you to know that you are really talented writer and I thank you so much for letting me go into your world with your words because I really helps me separate myself from my personal issues.  Your writing is one of the most amazing that I have ever came across and I can’t thank you enough for sharing your work with us. And I hope you know that your writing will have a very special place in my heart.
 I hope to read more of your stories and hopefully to come and I am done so I can show you how amazing they are.  It’s quite impossible trying to choose which one of your stories is my favorite because there’s just so many that I enjoy, that I have bookmarked on my phone  so I can go back and reread it again.  And I hope you know that you are a very talented writer and know that no matter white people say you have a gift and I’m so happy that you share that with us.
I am so happy that I have found your Tumblr a few months ago and anytime. I see you on my dash and always makes me smile. Whether it’s fluffy angst,  or anything in between I always look forward to reading what you have. I’m always blown away with the world that you create and sometimes I just I’m not speechless even right now. I’m not exactly sure what to tell you because you’ve done so much.
 To others it might just be another story of micro fic, but for me, it’s so much more than that your writing is comfort to me. It makes my days better anytime I  read them. i’ve been going through depression for eight years,  and I decided to go back into reading and writing, and try reading the HP series/fanfics  and I was left amazed with how much you helped. I’m always so glad to see you on my dash any time I log on.  Do you amazes me with how many stories that you’ve written and are still writing because I know call life can be difficult  when it comes to writing. So I also wanted to say congratulations on all the stories that you’ve published, because that’s amazing.
 even on my most darkest days where I feel as the clouds are trying to take me. I go on A03,  and go on my subscriptions and find your name. Usually I click on the HP stories,  and from there I choose any story because I know it’s going to be amazing and you’ve put so much effort into your stories that they help me on my bad days. My favorite time when I read your stories is when  it’s cold out or raining,  it’s so relaxing, being with my favorite blanket and listening to the rain hitting my window,  and have background music playing. While, I get lost in your world that  you created,  I’m happy that it’s almost winter because I can enjoying reading your stories  while inside it was a nice cup  hot chocolate, while seeing a blanket of snow all around my yard. Basically what I’m saying is that I am so grateful to have you here with us. Even though I don’t know you personally, just know that I appreciate and admire, everything that you’ve done.
I wish you the absolute best at your writing, and please know that no matter what any troll/annoying anon says,  your writing matters, and most importantly you matter so much. I know from experience that people talk so much, whether it’s in front of your behind your back. However, just know that there’s twice as many people that love you and care about you. 
Thank you so much my dear friend, I truly hope you know that you will forever have a spot reserved in my heart, and nobody will be able to take that spot.
❤️
Please take this heart as a token of my friendship
🥹
I wish you the absolute best and I hope you have a great day, because your writing always makes mine 1000000% more better than it was before
💕
Anon, I really don’t have the words to say how appreciative I am of this message… This has made my day a thousand times better, and brightened my entire week. I am so thankful to YOU for reading my stories! You have made me tear up! My stories would never come about without your support - YOU are the reason I write! Your picture of a winter snow day… please enjoy it for me! It’s getting hotter every day and I am dreaming of a Hogwarts Christmas.
So, so, so much love to you. Endless love. I really am crying a bit!
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Hi, it’s me, Fanfic Anon #2. I saw the request for their goodbye Thursday morning (I guess we can’t complain because we’ve gotten a lot of beautiful content of them lately but I am salty about it *deep sigh*). This also includes my take on certain events (my heart is breaking for the two of them - this summit probably came at a really bad time, I’m sure all he wants to do this weekend is be home with his family). Anyways. Hope you all enjoy.
For the first time since he took this job in six years, he didn’t want to go. He didn’t want to leave her. Not right now. Not with everything that happened this week. (They had no way of knowing when they decided she was staying at home with their children this weekend all those weeks ago - giving her a much needed break - just how much she would need to wrap her arms around her babies and not let go. As sad as he is to be leaving, he is equally happy to know she will have them - and he got plenty of assurances from their daughter she was going to keep an eye on her mother for him.) Not when he already has had to spend so much time away from her this week while their family was hurting because of him, when she was hurting because of him. (No amount of her reassurance, of her promises, of her love was going to erase the guilt that had been eating away at him since they were first told about it, since they first got their nephew on the phone. She has told him so many times how frightened she was of something happening to someone she loves, he knows how much these protests have impacted her over the last 6 years and now - he still isn’t sure how he is ever going to look himself in the mirror again.)
He stared at her beautiful face in the soft light of the gently breaking day, trying to memorize her in this moment, at peace in her sleep to hold with him over the next 72 hours, and he was counting. 12 hours to Japan on Thursday, then all Friday and Saturday, straight home at the end of the day Sunday, which when you factor in the time he gains back on the way -
“Hey,” he heard her mumble sleepily, soft smile playing on her lips as she broke into his thoughts, “I can see those gears turning, chéri. What’s bothering you?”
“Nothing,” he tried to dismiss not wanting her to worry about him, only to relent under the knowing cock of her eyebrow. “I don’t want to leave you.”
She smiled kindly at that, the pain returning to her eyes as she moved across the mattress to gather him into her arms. “I know. I don’t want you to go either. But you have to go.”
“But you -“
“I’ll be fine. I’ll be with our children. They’re not you, but I’ll be fine. We did just spend an entire day wrapped up together, just the two of us and nothing and no one else at home, our real home, last weekend, anything more than that I’m going to get spoiled,” she tried to joke. Seeing he barely cracked a smile, she tried a different tactic, slipping one palm to his cheek gently she reassured, “I can manage 72 hours. You don’t need to worry about me, mon cœur. Just take care of you.”
“I do need to worry about you, Brigitte! You’re my number one priority! Always! I’m leaving you to deal with this mess that I’ve made!” He ground back through his clenched teeth, his buried anger coming out even as he tried to fight it, for her sake, not wanting to add any more weight or pain to the parting.
“You listen to me, Emmanuel. You did not do this. Do you understand me? This. Was. Not. You,” she emphasized every word. “And I don’t want to hear you say that ever again.”
“But -“
“No. No ‘but’s. Please stop torturing yourself. I can’t let you go if I know you’re going to sulk the entire time.”
“Not the entire time,” he blushed.
“75-80% of it then,” she laughed gently. “I love you,” she leaned in to kiss him gently.
“I love you so very, very much, Brigitte,” he replied when she pulled back.
“Now, I want to make the most out of the time we have before you have to leave. So stop moping and come here. I want to be able to feel you after you’re gone.”
“As my wife wishes,” he smiled broadly, happy to see his wife’s sunny countenance back, before pulling her back to him for a passionate kiss.
All too soon, still in bliss from earlier this morning, he found himself standing in front of their bathroom mirror, prolonging as much as possible his departure smiling at the image of his wife wearing nothing but a short, thin dressing gown she was holding tight around her body as she leaned against the doorframe, watching him get ready to depart.
“Aren’t you going to shave?” She asked, pushing off from the doorframe and approaching him, wrapping her arms around his hips and pressing a kiss to his shoulder.
“I would have to shave again before we land anyways,” he replied.
“Mhmm,” she hummed. “Just don’t nick yourself again during turbulence.”
“You cut yourself one time -“ he rolled his eyes.
“Well pardon me for wanting to keep my handsome husband’s face in tip-top shape!”
“I shall pardon you,” he laughed turning around, his perfume in hand. Smiling he leaned down to press a soft kiss to the pulse point on her neck, drawing a quiet moan, before pulling back and wetting the spot with his scent. “I am always with you,” he whispered in her ear as he pulled back to right himself.
“And I with you,” she smiled back at him, lifting her hand to rest over his heart.
“I’ll be back before you know it,” he promised.
“I’ll be waiting,” she replied with a watery smile as he pulled back to leave, pressing one last long, loving kiss to her lips before he knew he had to go.
“I love you,” he blew her a kiss from the doorway before reluctantly leaving her, and his heart, behind.
Hellooo fanfic Anon #2! ❤️
So adorable! They are adorable! Bless Emmanuel for not wanting to leave. I can imagine this happening quite often, especially when he has to go alone.
But them still find the time to be playful with each other hahaha 🥰
Thank you so much, fanfic Anon #2! ❤️❤️❤️
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thatlittledandere · 4 months ago
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Shipper tag game
Tagged by @unfortunatelycake <3
1 . What ship were you completely obsessed with when you were a teenager, but now you don't care about anymore? I can't say I don't have any feelings at all left for anything I used to be CRAZY for... They come back whenever I see fanart lol
2. Which ship would you consider your first one? Maybe Ichigo and Aoyama from Tokyo Mew Mew I reaally hoped things would work out between them. After that came Harry Potter and my first non-endgame ship Harry and Cho :/ Bad taste I know
3. Your first fanfic was about which couple? First one written or read? I don't remember the first shipfic I read (first smut was Yutaka and that tall girl from Lucky Star), first one I wrote (or started at least) Yamcha and Tien from Dragon Ball/Z. Lost to time.
4. Do you remember the first couple you saw fanart of? Absolutely not lmao
5. Have you ever gotten into ship discourse? Not too actively. Sure I've reblogged some shit in my time and bitched in private and in tags but I don't think I've like.. made hateposts or sent mean anons or anyth-
....Have I...? Now I'm suddenly not sure anymore.......
6. Did you use to have any NOTP or have one currently? USED TO FOR SURE. SO MANY. I can't really be bothered anymore. I can dislike things and say "hmm. don't like that" to myself and then go on with my life and not think about it.
7. Who were the couple in the last fanfic you read? Dave Strider/Karkat Vantas (Homestuck)
8. Currently, do you have any OTPs? Not really 😩 I'm in an annoying transitional state where Souyo doesn't plague my every waking moment anymore but nothing has come to replace it. I'm trying to resist davekat taking that place lmaooooooo
9. Is there any couple that, to this day, you are extremely mad about not getting together? Not really...? I rarely ship anything canon plausible that doesn't become endgame. Maybe the Doctor and Rose but even then. The Doctor can't just settle down and they sorta did the closest equivalent in the form of Tentoo.
10. Is there any ship you used to dislike but now you think they are kind of interesting? Oh yeah one twitter doujin was enough to make me intrigued by Adayu. Adashu. Adasou. Shuada. Those bitches from Purse Owner 4
11. Do you have any ship that, in the past, would've been considered normal but now you would be cancelled over? It's the other way around really. My ships have always been really vanilla but I've become more open to spicier dynamics in the past couple of years.
Unless people are mad about Doctor/Rose age gap of approximately 900 years loool
12. What is your favorite crack ship? I don't really do those. I'm uncreative there needs to be something in canon to catch my interest. OR just. a HUMONGOUS amount of fanon. Like, by all accounts, Atsutodo (atsushi and Todomatsu from Osomatsu-san) would be a crackship, Atsushi appeared in one episode as a side character in one skit, but the fandom took to it so hard I'm not sure if it counts anymore. One of the more popular ships in the whole fandom is kindof a gray area... Then again DOES a crackship have to also be a rarepair..?
13. What is the couple you read the most fanfics about? Sigh. Been reading davekat and johndave lately. Been TRYING to read roxycallie but they're such a sideship....
14. What do most of your ships usually have in common? Friends to lovers, one of them is or is made out by fandom to be homophobic. For my het ships, a height gap seems to be a reccuring theme, although to a lesser extent than the uh homophobia.
15. What you absolutely hate in a ship? That's much harder to name than things I like... Anything CAN theoretically be sold to me in the right circumstances.
Boy I sure did avoid answering most of those questions!
@magiccatprincess @soullessserenity @livefreeordie13 k that's enough of me
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caelumsnuff · 2 years ago
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I really feel for anon (I’ll never understand fully as I’m white though). I remember recent-ishly an anon on a big Redacted blog wondered about tagging art that featured white listeners like the way people tag gendered listeners since they wondered if seeing white listeners could make POC listeners uncomfortable too. I remember that that anon didn’t say like ‘it should be mandatory to do this or you’re bad people!!’ I think they were just wondering. I personally thought the idea was unnecessary and a bit of overcorrecting but shrugged and moved on. But jsnsosjwjsksjs the amount of UTTER FURY across the board I saw that day from people I followed was immense. I saw two separate tumblr (one that makes art and one that writes fanfic) say they would leave the fandom if *other* people started tagging in that way.
I’ve seen people attempt to doxx Redacted like post the man’s real name and everything (TikTok is awful), make the man admit to being an SA survivor (again TikTok), etc and some thrown out tagging idea would send you out of the fandom? Like the idea is extra as hell to me, but the amount of people that raged seemed like an overreaction to an idea. I shouldn’t be ranting more than the anon actually affected by things like this. I am glad that Redacted stopped saying stuff like blushing like he sometimes did in the earliest days. I like that he seems to try and allow the listeners to be whatever race too cause I know some ASMRists that don’t. I might be applauding him for something basic though. I hope this space eventually becomes better for POC fans like just because things aren’t overtly uncomfortable doesn’t mean it can’t be doing better!
Okay i almost wish i had seen that whole "tagging white characters" things because i am so utterly intrigued by it. Those reactions definitely sound a little over the top to something like that, especially if they were coming from a well meaning white fandom goer (the person asking about it). The idea sounds a little silly to me as well, but i definitely don't think its ridiculous to ask about it.
And leaving the fandom over it? seriously?? With everything else that has happened in this fandom, tagging yt characters is too much.... I'm genuinely flabbergasted
I'm also happy redacted stopped doing the whole blushing thing in audios and whatnot, and same goes for other VAs too tbh, but that is indeed applauding something that should be pretty basic. Whoo! Bare minimum of including people with darker skin!
I hope so as well, thank you for the ask <3
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sofipitch · 2 years ago
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I've thought a lot about how to try and phrase this post or even write it because I have talked about this a million different times and seems to have no impact I wonder if it even matters but incase anyone needed evidence of racism in the VC fandom, @sweetazathioprine and I started getting racist trolls the momment we started posting our fanfic The Long Way Home, and it has continued nonstop and I recently posted a fic featureing the AMC universe/timeline whatever you want to call it and it has simply escalated. And it's not just myself who has recieved this, since I know there are enough ppl that hate me or even my cowriter who are willing to say we deserve it but @vivienne1996 also began uploading fic for the AMC show and had to turn off both anon on her tumblr and comments on her fanfictions all together because of all the racist abuse she was reciving. On my fics I delete a lot of it because it contains slurs that would upset someone else who might look at the comments but I have screenshotted them and present them now as evidence that yes the VC fandom has massive racism issue
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This isn't by far all of them, tumblr simply has a 10 image limit. I also chose ones featuring a slur since some people can only recognize bigotry when a slur is thrown around. I also get some kind of insult telling me they hope I die or that my writing is terrible. I don't pretend to think I am a good writer or that I'm the only person in this fandom recieving insults but the inceseant insults aren't on any of the fic I wrote before Jacob Anderson's casting announcement.
And again this isn't just me who is recieving this so take what I have gotten and imagine what the others arr getting.
This isn't isolated to just racism either, rampant transphobia has been present. I'm aware in the past fics or art depicting the characters are trans has recieved hate and @hedonisticgene has also been recieving insults based on added diversity to the VC characters. Really showing yall are only here for cis white characters.
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My point in highlighting this isn't to make anyone feel bad for me but to showcase that this has been an ongoing problem and I got possibly the record for the most amount of troll comments to word count ratio on my AMC fic. And I worry for the countless number of new people joining, being happy and excited, and then getting these kinds of comments when they go to post fanfic. It's frankly just disgusting and this is what I meant when I first said ppl disliking the race change would lead to racism. And I feel like overall the VC fandom and especially those with a lot of following and big platforms to speak up and condemn this shit have simply remained silent, or been covertly supporting this shit by saying they are the ones being attacked.
I wish I had something more articulate to say but really I feel any kind of intelligent comment stifled by anger. I just feel massively disappointed and let down
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aceofshitposts · 2 years ago
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hi I’m too nervous to ask this without anon on so here it goes: I was wondering if your fanfics you’ve posted have affected your ability to get a job or get into a college, etc? such as when they to background checks and see that romance stories are associated with you. I’d like to start posting some fics and possibly some more spicy ones, but I’m afraid that if I do it will mess up my chances at the career I’m pursuing. thoughts/knowledge?? I really appreciate this, thank you! 💓
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Oh, dear sweet anon. I can tell you with a good amount of confidence that people who are not terminally online in fandom circles generally don't care. Most people don't even, for example, even know there were multiple Robins let alone this whole bat family thing.
But to answer your question, no it hasn't affected my ability to get a job or go to school because I've worked the same job for the past nine years and nine years ago I didn't have any fanfiction posted lol I did have some semi spicy cosplay photos on my FB page but I don't think my boss ever looked me up beyond our interview.
But here's a secret anon, you don't have to post under your real name. You don't have to be findable. That FB page I mentioned was always posted under an incorrect spelling of my name specifically so I couldn't be looked up unless I gave it to you and that wasn't because I was worried about potential fandom drama that was just a healthy amount of internet paranoia lol
Shipping jaytim has affected nothing except the occasional nasty internet comment which I'm more than well adjusted enough to handle. I know I'm not doing anything wrong and anyone who feels the need to comment nasty things to a stranger has their own problems and they're trying to enact control over something they feel is an easy target.
Overall the jaytim community has been one of the nicest communities I've been a part of so I really think the positives outweigh the negatives. But like, I'm sure you know but, there will always be someone who hates your stuff no matter what it is. I've gotten shit over batquinn, stony, sterek, peter/gwen etc there's always gonna be someone who lashes out.
Anyway. Honestly i don't know what kind of searching employers or schools might do nowadays, my info is over ten years out of date, but making yourself hard to find with a pseudonym is never a bad idea. But also remember most people aren't terminally online and probably won't even know the context if they're not already deeply entrenched in batman (or whatever) trivia lol
Also, tbh, if someone has a problem with you enjoying or writing romance genre I wouldn't want to work for them anyway. (I also wouldn't want to work for someone who goes snooping into my personal life that doesn't affect my work but. We sure do live in a society :T)
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ltleflrt · 2 years ago
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AO3 tos anon here, thank you for all the explanation.
I actually sometimes wonder myself what’s my stakes in following a lot of spntwitter drama 🙈 I think in this particular case, I just wanted to know the truth. I understand you don’t have concrete proof but as I said I take your word because I know you from outside of the twitter echo chamber and trust you. I also wanted to figure out if AO3 is basically deleting fics just like that but your explanation makes sense as to why they’re doing it.
The fact that reporting trolls should chill, though, I fully agree with.
GAH, THE TUMBEASTS ATE MY FIRST ANSWER. I'm still gonna end up being long winded about this though cuz it gets me pretty heated. I try not to talk about it, but then someone asks me about it and oh lord here I go lol
I honestly don't care if there's a ringleader or just a well organized group. I just wish that the Reporting Trolls would consider printed fics the same as classic 'zines and get the fuck over it. Reporting printed fics can bring down the attention of the IP holders too, so they're not the Fandom Heroes they think they're being.
And when it comes down to it, I don't think they're really trying to protect fandom. If that was the case, there wouldn't be fanfics publicly posted on Lulu that have been sitting their for several years. They're targeting specific creators who have gone out of their way to keep the links hidden or private. So I think there's a kernel of truth to the idea that they're doing this out of jealousy. If it's That One Author that seems to be the ringleader, she may be upset that other people are getting more attention than she does. If it's her fans, they may be upset that their favorite author isn't getting as much attention as they think she deserves. It's even possible that they're not aware of what they're really doing, so they fall back on "BUt pRoFIT".
This whole thing about "but Lulu makes money!" will forever drive me nuts. Lulu would make the same amount of money selling paper and ink on a book that's just 700 pages of the word "Orange" typed on repeat as they would selling paper and ink on a book that's 700 pages of my story. The paper and ink is only worth paying for because of me, and I'm not making any money from the work I'm doing.
Look I can prove that, at least :D
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Hell, I'm losing money on it. I pay fanartists to create covers for me. I'm bad at formatting the PDF, so I pay people to format it properly for me. I've spent hundreds of dollars to make these prints look nice and semi-professional. I give away copies for free to the artists and the people who help me with the formatting, and some of these are over $20 because of how thick they are.
Everyone is getting something out of this EXCEPT for me!
*huffs and puffs in irritation*
The AO3 stuff is, unfortunately, squidgy. Over the years I've heard of other things getting reported on AO3 where authors have complained that they weren't given enough opportunity to clean up whatever the violation was, or the AO3 staff wouldn't/couldn't tell them where the violation was hiding. If something is reported, it's going to come down to a judgement call from an AO3 employee. As someone who has had to make judgement calls on things that are grey areas, I can tell you it's tough. And sometimes it's best to err on the side of caution, which is usually not in the customer's favor. Without knowing exactly what was behind the AO3 staff's decision to delete, I can't say whether their decision is fair or not. It is scary though, because it's hard to tell whether an offhand comment will get you in trouble or not, and it puts us all on edge when we hear about something getting deleted.
Anyway, sorry I went on a vent session again. I'm glad you got some answers that at least made you feel better ;D
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levisgirll · 3 years ago
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I love you and your blog so much🥺 I've read somewhere that it's canon that Levi's secretly ticklish and I was wondering if I could request a fic or whatever you prefer where his s/o finds out about this fact and uses it against him. Thank you so much, feel free to ignore this if you don't like it or if you don't want to. You're amazing I'm so glad I found your blog❤️ I hope you have an amazing day!
𝐓𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐥𝐞 𝐦𝐲 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭 (𝐋𝐞𝐯𝐢 𝐀𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐧 𝐱 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫)
text: OMG hello sweet anon!! thank you so much for your message and request c: I honestly was never sure about levi being ticklish but thanks for letting me know and I would GLADLY write this request out for you! Also, it makes me happy that u found this blog and the fact u stayed and sent a request too is so nice of you <3 !! (this made my day 🥰) Have a great day Anon and I hope this request makes your day too 💕💖(also note I was afraid to mess it up as a fanfic, so I decided to make it like a fanfic but as bullet points, so I hope that's alright with you 🥺
synopsis: you noticed something off about levi, your boyfriend. anddd you might have discovered something accidentally about him! how does he react after you finding out and what do you both do? (this was really cute and super fluff to write honestly and you wont regret it-)
It was just another day at the headquarters of the Survey Corps, and you were with none other than Levi, your boyfriend! You had felt extremely lucky to be with Levi ever since the both of you started to date. Although, Levi kept saying it was him that was lucky that someone amazing, strong, badass and lovely like Y/N would even consider dating Levi.
Of course, you both take your work seriously, but the love you both had for each other were stronger. During the day you would glance towards each other, signaling you both needed the other.
Hanji was quite a close friend you made when you joined the survey corps. You and Levi were both strolling around the headquarters until you both spotted Hanji with Moblit and you ran towards them while Levi with his stolid expression was coming along.
“Hello Hanji and Moblit! How is your research going?” Y/N said while smiling at them, “Oh Hey guys!! Still in progress, but we are missing somethings..” Hanji said while suddenly looking down with a gloomily expression. “Let me help out then!” You always felt so bad whenever you saw Hanji not smiling, you wanted to try your best to help Hanji out. “Oh Y/N you are an angel!! Seriously, Thank you!!” Hanji would yell out and hugged you so tightly.
“Tch, Oi shitty glasses you better not give my partner some dangerous work or I will come and find you and make sure you regret it.” Levi said while crossing his arms around his chest. “Don't be mean Levi!” Hanji would say hiding behind you.
“Alright, Alright stop it you two. Levi, I will catch up with you later the afternoon okay?” You said and placed your hand on his chest, looking at his grey eyes. Levi gave out a soft sigh and ruffled your hair, “Sure love...I’ll be there.”
After some time trying to help out with Hanji and Moblit’s research, you finally were done and was heading back to see your great boyfriend.
As you entered his office, you saw him all stressed with the amount of paperwork he had. “Hey.” He said while still looking down at the paperwork and pushed his hair back, he looked extremely handsome whenever he did that.
“Love, take a short break? For me?” You said as you went behind his chair and placed your hands on his shoulder and started to give him a soft massage. He doesn't admit it, but he always love it whenever you do that for him. He felt all your warmth, love and affection when you gave him a massage.
“Mhm...alright.” He would say pushing his head back and relaxing. Levi would melt whenever his Y/N did this. He looked up and started to focus on your face. You could tell by the look of his eyes he was madly in love with you and every rub you gave him, he devoted you even more. “Fuck, I love you.” He said while letting out a pant.
You gave him a smirk, “I know love”, your hands went up and you started to rub his neck and you were about to move up to his chin but he jolted up so quickly, and he straighten his back. You were taken aback by his sudden act, and your eyes widen. “Um, L-Levi..?”
He didn't say anything and kept quiet, he picked up his pen and started to sign off the papers. He was...being dubious?
That is when...you accidentally found out he was in fact ticklish!
Y/N: Huh, Wait a minute...
Levi: Okay, I have to go somewhere by-
Levi got up and was about to leave but Y/N held on his wrist and he tensed up. Oh shit.
Y/N: You...You're!
Levi: Your Boyfriend, yes.
Y/N started to give a huge smile, and they looked up to Levi. “My Levi is ticklish!” They said all thrilled and snuggled his arm. He started to blush and look away, clearly he was really embarrassed. “T-This is your fault now!” But he lowkey always wondered just...how you always made him feel so good and giving him butterflies inside?!
“What is so bad about being ticklish Love? You know they say laughter can reduce stress and wash off any troubles...so come here!” You said giggling. This is the ONLY chance you hear your man’s soft laugh and all clumsily. It was fucking cute that you felt your heart to be melted in any second.
“Y-Y/N!! Don’t!” Levi got up so quickly from his chair, and was trying to hold his laughter as you tried to go to his neck and underarms, trying to tickle him.
You pushed it further and wanted to tease him. “Wow, who would have known humanity’s strongest solider is afraid of being...tickled?”.
“H-Huh? No I'm not.... Y/N, come here." But your man tricks you and starts tickling you instead!! He picked you up, while sitting down on his chair and letting you sit on his lap.
“Now, I think you need some back, Hm? Come on, not gonna let you go till I find your weak spot” He said snuggling up to you. Did not take him long but, it was your underarms. “O-Okay L-Levi I give please!!” You said laughing out aloud.
This made your relationship with Levi stronger. “Tch, anything you do is really something huh?” he said with a low tone and gave you a...kiss on your cheek?! He even had a small smile that you picked up and this tickling really stimulated him to be more loving towards you. Or in reality, we could say Levi took this opportunity to show you some love because this poor guy really had trouble to do that and he could never figure out when was the 'time'. So, he would give you his rare session, which was his cuddling session and some soft kisses while you sat on his laps and hugging his waist.
He has a warm feeling in his chest after you tickled him, it was like all his responsibilities started to fade away and you left your man in this warm and fuzzy feeling. He wanted you more than ever now.
On the good side, he realized it reduced his stress. ‘wow, y/n is amazing how can they do that...’ (he is secretly thinking of another tickling love session-)
The whole night, laughter's could be heard from Captain Levi’s office which was filled with love. Speaking of love, you really ‘tickled his heart’ which astonishing gave him extreme amount of joy. Whoever passed that hallway were startled to know that there was someone who could make him laugh, and it was y/n, his significant other, that he actually really deeply loves and cares about.
ahh this melted my heart writing this out! I'm so glad I got this request and was able to write it :,) love u anon! I hope you enjoyed it and felt some fluff while reading it, and if you do pls leave a like or reblog ♥️
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carpisuns · 3 years ago
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New anon, but I saw the last one and I have some thoughts. Specifically, I have been obsessing over ml for the last month or so, and I’ve only seen three episodes, and they were the three released before crocoduel. And you know what? I wasn’t that into it, it wasn’t bad it just wasn’t half as engaging as fanon and fanworks have been for me.
I’ve also done this with the Magicians, Supernatural, and a couple others. I think the reason that this works, for some people, is because it is a more familiar and in many ways, easier way to discover and become attached to new material and new characters. Fan writers and artists are coming from a place of love for their source material (no matter what issues they may have with it) and that bleeds out into their work. Time is spent developing the characters and their feelings, their relationships, in ways that canon so often can’t or isn’t allowed to, and reading that, it’s very easy to fall in love with new characters very quickly. There’s also common AUs and dynamics that make it much easier to start something new.
And also: comfort characters. So many fans find common ground with characters and further project onto them, particularly in fanfic. And because of that it’s often easier to identify with a fan’s interpretation of a character than it is to identify with the canon’s, since you have these more deeply explored feelings and relationships based on a combination of canon and the personal experiences of the fan writer. Also, with these kinds of fics it’s extremely emotionally affirming since for someone who doesn’t have much of any connection with the source material, it feels like the original, even if you’re reading a large body of work by a lot of different people. And I’m so used to fanfic as a substitute for the emotional work and character development that shows/movies/books don’t have room for or aren’t willing to get into, that approaching a fandom as it’s own original piece of media in a way, feels very comforting.
That’s my perspective on it anyways, and why I do this. I do think it is a good thing to engage with the canon to an extent, even if it’s just watching a few clips (how I found ml) but I also don’t think you need any real connection or knowledge of it to be deeply invested in the fandom. Sorry, this got very long.
you know, i totally get being on, like, the fringe of fandoms and interacting with fanon to an extent without a proper investment in canon (I have a couple fandoms like that), but i honestly just can't imagine becoming super invested in a fandom when I am not invested in the source material...maybe that's just a difference between you and me, idk.
but also, i gotta admit that i'm struggling a bit to understand the reason. you yourself pointed out that fan work is enjoyable because the creator's love for canon bleeds into it. and isn't that the reason that you would want to give canon a real chance? obviously there is fan content made out of spite lol (and sadly a fair amount in this fandom), but to me most fan content is like a love letter to canon. like, "i adore this thing so much that it inspired me to create and share with other people who adore it." and what better recommendation is there than that?? i would think people would wanna familiarize themselves with canon in order to better enjoy fanon(?)
i completely understand your point about fan content delving further into characterization and relationships where canon hasn't/can't, and that is such a big appeal of fanfic/fanart. but i don't feel like that's a reason to not engage with canon? on the contrary, i feel like you are missing something important in your understanding and appreciation of that wonderful exploration if you haven't experienced firsthand the foundation that canon set. and maybe that missing thing is just your personal interpretation of a character/dynamic.
for example, i could say, "adrien agreste is this, this, and this and he would do this but not this." and of course i will think im right because my characterization is always perfect 😌sakjdfaldjks but someone else might have a slightly different interpretation, and someone else will have another interpretation, and when you mush all those individual takes on a character together, you will get a good sense of who they are, but you still don't have the Original™️ to draw your own interpretation from. idk, to me it sounds like basing your opinion of chocolate ice cream on what other people are saying about it without ever trying it yourself? ajsldakljf maybe that's an oversimplification but i do think that without experiencing it for yourself, your understanding will always be kind of incomplete.
idk, i big agree with everything you said about why fan content is special, but everything that is a point in fanon's favor is not a knock on canon. to me fan content feels pretty inseparable from canon, so it just doesn't compute to me to take canon out of the equation? then we would have nothing.
i feel like it's almost kinda trendy nowadays to be like, "oh this show actually sucks lmao but the fanon and AUs are good." like it's shameful to actually...enjoy source material? 😭 i mean i completely understand that miraculous ladybug is not gonna be everyone's cup of tea and that's fine! but if you truly enjoy the fan content that much i encourage you to give canon a real shot. it's not that surprising to me that you watched 3 recent episodes and didn't vibe that much, since you haven't seen the 3 seasons of buildup that lead to them. miraculous has a neat way of tying a bunch of things together so if you aren't familiar with all of it, you're probably missing out.
personally my love for miraculous was kind of a slowburn at first. i only started watching the show because my sister and i made a deal that forced me to watch the first few eps lol. and i didn't really vibe either. but there must have been enough of a spark there for me to keep watching bc for some reason i did and the more i watched the more i fell in love with it until it became the thing that occupies my brain more than anything else. i started with canon and then got into fanon, but it could easily go the other way too. and if you're already invested in the story and characters, i have to imagine it would be much easier to push past the initial cringe of "this is a show about a couple of teen furries rated TV-Y7 on netflix" lol and give anything you don't vibe with the benefit of the doubt.
again, to be clear, i'm not trying to judge or gatekeep here! i'm just saying this because i genuinely LOVE miraculous. it's my favorite show. that's why i make things for it. that's why i have this blog. i want people to watch it. so maybe, pwetty pwease, try watching the show you like so much? 🥺👉👈
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a-small-batch-of-dragons · 3 years ago
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Tell the Truth
Prompts: aaaa the way you write angst is just *chefs kiss* wonderful. I’ve been really enjoying the butterfly project series, it has made me cry multiple times. May I request some fluff to balance the angst? - anon
Excuse me while I sob over Redemption Never Came and politely grabby hand for more angst with a happy ending (Roman angst my beloved) (Also you are an amazing fanfic artist :D) - anon
This is so heartbreaking and whumpy but so soft in the end and I would devour a second part about everyone trying to help undo all the negative patterns they've all instilled in Roman and just showing him affection and everyone's hearts breaking a little more each time he's surprised they actually want to be around him. - LadyofhteWoods
And now a part of me wants to see all those scenarios again, only this time Roman gets loved- walk in the kitchen, get a hug. Sit on the couch? Cuddle pile. Go on a quest? Bring friends, if hurt, patch up and movies. Crying in bed because you had a bad time and your brain is screaming that you suck and a wave of depression has rippled through you and you feel horrible? Have some tea… cry it out…. We’re here. - A_tiny_star_prince
Read on Ao3 Part 1
Warnings: self-doubt, self-deprecating thoughts
Pairings: dlampr
Word Count: 7688
Roman lies. A lot. Maybe it's time they did something about it.
Roman’s lies don’t vanish overnight. How could they? When he’s so used to repeating them, over and over, in a horrific little mantra before he goes to sleep, how can he be expected to get rid of them in only one night?
That doesn’t make them less difficult to hear.
Janus is downstairs, helping Virgil fold up one of the blankets strewn about the living room, when he winces and hisses.
“J? You okay?”
Janus nods, jerking his head upward. Virgil follows his gaze and winces too.
“…Princey?”
“I think so.” That’s a lie. He knows it’s Roman.
“I got this,” Virgil says quietly, taking the blanket from Janus, “you go. He seems to let you help more than he lets us.”
He never really had the choice to let me.
Janus swallows heavily as he appears outside Roman’s door. The lies aren’t nearly as poisonous as they were a few days ago, but they’re strong enough to curl his tongue at the bitterness in his throat. He raises a hand to knock on the door.
The lies falter for a moment before another one floats through.
Don’t come in.
He smirks, gently pushing the door open to meet a darkened room.
“Impressive,” he says softly, making his way over to the figure in the bed and perching on the end, “that could’ve been one of mine.”
He’s rewarded with the quietest of huffs before a head shyly peeks out at him from the covers. Janus smiles and tilts his head.
“Hello, sweetie.”
“Hi.” Roman shuffles a little. “Sorry. Didn’t realize I was summoning you.”
“There’s no need to apologize.” Janus glances around the room. His computer is off and shut. The bathroom light and fan are off. He looks back. “Can I help, sweetie?”
A shuffling of the blankets that’s probably supposed to be a shrug.
“Let me come find you, then,” he murmurs, standing and moving to where the head was a moment ago, “how did you get this many blankets on top of you?”
He slowly starts to move them out of the way, peeling back layer after layer, only briefly wondering whether or not Roman can breathe properly under these. It’s a careful act, one he treats with the same reverence as cleaning his gloves or his scales, creating a little cocoon of blankets as he gets further and further into the covers.
The last one puffs just the slightest amount, up and down.
So you can breathe, good.
Janus doesn’t move this one all the way out of the way, just lifts it up enough to peer inside. Roman’s little face peers back at him, partially covered by another blanket clutched tight to his chest. He looks so…child-like.
The realization makes something warm turn in Janus’s chest.
“Knock knock,” he says softly, “anyone home?”
Roman blinks. “Mm.”
“May I come in, sweetie?”
“Mm.” Roman jerks his chin toward Janus’s clothes. “Lose the sharp bits.”
Janus snaps his fingers, transforming his usual clothes into a soft yellow shirt and sleep pants. “Better?”
“Mm.”
“How did you manage to get so many blankets balanced on your bed,” Janus asks as he slips beside Roman, “mine always fall off after three.”
“Practice.” Roman shifts to make room.
Janus frowns. “Come here, sweetie, let me cuddle you.”
“You don’t have to.”
The frown deepens. “Sweetie?”
Roman buries his face a little deeper into the blanket. “You don’t like cuddling. Virgil an’ Remus said so.”
Oh, Roman…
“Come, sweetie,” he insists, tugging Roman gently into a proper hug, “there.”
“But—but—“
“I may not be as big a fan of cuddling as you and Patton,” Janus says firmly, cupping Roman’s face, “and I’m certainly the type that enjoys being tackled by Remus—“
Roman snorts.
“—but you’re upset,” he finishes gently, “and I want to help.”
Burden.
Needy.
Don’t understand boundaries.
Don’t deserve help.
Janus hisses. Roman sighs.
“Sorry.”
“No need for that,” he assures, still cradling Roman’s face as he pulls him close, “I understand. It’s alright.”
“I know, and I—I don’t want you to leave, but—“ Roman swallows— “I just—I still don’t believe you’re here.”
Janus wraps a pair of arms around Roman’s waist and squeezes. “I’m real, I’m here.”
“I just—“
There’s another lie swirling in Roman’s brain, too nebulous to make it all the way to Janus, but present enough that it makes his mouth tingle. He leans down to kiss Roman’s forehead.
“…you said it was your job to protect the Ego.”
“That’s right, sweetie, it is.”
“I guess I…I just��”
Janus gives Roman another encouraging squeeze. Roman brings the blanket further up his face.
“…I guess I figured that if you—if you could h-hate me that much or h-hurt me that badly and not—not care, then you…maybe you…”
Janus’s heart clenches as the lie finally makes itself known.
Not worth protecting.
He pulls away, shushing the heartbroken whine that Roman makes, taking off his gloves and wrapping every arm around the poor thing. He presses another kiss to his forehead, letting the hiss out into his hair.
“That’s not true, sweetie,” he promises, “and you’ll never know how sorry I am for hurting you and letting it get this far.”
And the poor thing is so tired, so weary that he goes limp in Janus’s arms, save for the blanket clutched tightly to his face. Janus frowns, opening his mouth to say that might be a little uncomfortable, what with Roman’s arms tucked between them, when he starts putting the pieces together.
Roman is still wearing a fair amount of clothing, he’s got something pressed up against his face, under his chin, and he’s got so many blankets piled on top of him that even Janus feels warm.
“And here I thought I couldn’t feel more rotten,” he whispers, carding one hand through Roman’s hair, another scratching gently between his shoulder blades, “but you must be in agony.”
A questioning hum is let out against his throat.
“You’re still touch starved, sweetie,” he says in way of answering, squeezing a little tighter, “are you still cold?”
There’s a soft rush of breath as Janus cups the back of his neck and then a noise is just about torn from his throat as he uses it to pull Roman close.
“Oh, shh, shh, you poor thing,” he murmurs, pressing another kiss to his cheek, “I’m right here, sweetie, I won’t leave you.”
They lie there for a while longer, Roman’s arms slowly lowering the blanket until he shyly puts his arms around Janus in return.
“There you go, sweetie,” he encourages, “hold onto me, that’s it.”
“Why—why are you letting me hug you?”
“Because it seems like you’d like to hug me.” Janus squeezes him again. “You don’t need to have a reason, sweetie, if you need a cuddle, you can have one.”
I need a reason. I need an excuse. I need an argument. I have to convince you.
Another hiss. “You can always ask for hugs, sweetie, you don’t need to convince me to hug you.”
“…really?”
Oh, Roman… “Yes, sweetie, you can ask any of us.”
The wave of disbelief that hits him makes him grit his teeth.
“I promise, sweetie. I promise.” Another kiss to his forehead. “You’re not unwanted, you’re not a burden.”
The silence he gets implies that Roman may not want to prove that—or disprove it—for himself right now.
“…can we just stay here for a bit?”
“For as long as you need, sweetie,” Janus murmurs, settling them in for some rest, “for as long as you want.”
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Patton is in the kitchen, the first one downstairs this morning. There’s already a pot of coffee brewing and he sets the kettle up on the counter. He reaches up to pull the mugs for everyone. The plain black one for Logan, the Nightmare Before Christmas one for Virgil, the sparkly one for Remus, and the blue puppy one for himself. He frowns.
Roman used to keep his mug down here too. This really big red one with a golden crown on the side. He hasn’t seen it in ages.
Footsteps on the stairs.
He turns and sees Roman walk into the kitchen, smiling brightly as if there’s nothing wrong in the world, not a seam or stitch of his prince costume out of place. He strides into the room like he owns it, as if he’s just come down the stairs in his resplendent palace to a crown of adoring onlookers.
“Ah! Patton!” Goodness, he speaks like it too. “Good morning!”
“Roman!” Patton rushes forward and wraps him in a hug.
This is where everything goes wrong.
Roman tenses. Not in a way that means he wants out, but out of sheer surprise. Patton waits for Roman’s arms to wrap around him but instead, there’s just a very, very soft touch to his shoulder.
“Patton,” he asks quietly, “are you alright?”
“Yeah, I’m great, kiddo, why?”
“W-well, you’re…you’re hugging me.”
“Sure am.”
“…why?”
Suddenly Patton feels very cold.
He pulls back, not enough to let Roman go completely, but enough to look up and see a truly heartbreaking look of confusion on his face. He can’t help the soft noise that comes out of his mouth as he raises one hand to his face.
“Are you asking why I’m hugging you?” Roman nods. “I want to hug you, kiddo. You’re hug-shaped.”
“I’m…what?”
“Hug-shaped,” Patton repeats, tugging him a little closer with the arm still around his waist, “you’re worth hugging, I like hugging you.”
“O-oh.”
And Patton has to watch as every scrap of confidence falls from Roman’s expression, his shoulders slump, and he looks like he loses some of his height, even. The shift is so drastic that it almost springs tears to his eyes at how much Prince Roman suddenly looks like a lost child, swimming in a costume too big and too heavy for him. Roman face contorts as he looks at a spot on the counter, furrowing his brow as if it’ll explain everything to him if he just glares hard enough.
There’s something fragile about the way Roman leans into Patton’s hand, something breakable about how warm he is right now. Patton shifts his weight to his other leg and there’s a flash of panic in Roman’s eyes, quickly stifled but there.
“Oh, kiddo, I’m not going anywhere,” he murmurs, pulling Roman back in for a proper hug, “I’m right here, it’s okay. You just let it out, okay?”
Roman’s breathe shudders a little into Patton’s shoulder. Then he starts pushing Patton away.
Patton listens, confused, until he watches Roman shake himself and put the mask of the prince right back on.
“Terribly sorry,” he says in the awful, awful cheerful voice as he rakes a hand through his hair, “don’t know what came over me.”
“Don’t,” Patton blurts before he can stop himself, “don’t do that, sweetheart.”
“Don’t do what, Padre?”
“Don’t pretend,” he says, reaching out for Roman again, “you don’t have to pretend you’re okay. Or that you don’t want something.”
“I don’t like being needy, Patton,” Roman says in a soft voice that’s just this side of wobbly, “and you don’t like me needy.”
And doesn’t that just feel hot and guilty in Patton’s throat?
“I like you, sweetheart,” he says instead, “and you’re not being needy if you want comfort or even just a touch. You’re allowed to want something, Roman, you are.”
Roman huffs in disbelief and turns.
“No, Roman—“ Patton hurries to get in front of him— “you are.”
Something flickers across Roman’s expression. Patton doesn’t even need Janus to tell him that Roman thinks he’s walking into a trap.
“I’m so sorry, sweetheart,” Patton says quietly, “I’ve hurt you so much, haven’t I? I’ve made you think that your job is wrong, that you—that you’re wrong and you’re not, kiddo. You’re not wrong. You’re not awful. I promise.”
Roman’s lip wobbles.
“Oh, come here, sweetheart,” Patton coos, wrapping him back in a hug, and finally, finally Roman’s arms come up to wrap around him too, before he’s being squeezed so tight it borders on painful.
Patton doesn’t care.
“It’s gonna be okay, sweetheart, I promise.” He rocks them back and forth a little as Roman buries his face in his shoulder. “We’ll figure it out, I know we will.”
They stay like that until the kettle goes off and Roman startles, jumping back a little bit. Patton soothes away the last of the jitters and smiles, watching Roman look like…Roman. Not the Prince, not the horribly lost child, just…just Roman.
“I think that’s my cue to make you the biggest mug of hot chocolate you’ve had since Christmas,” he says quietly, “now what mug would you like?”
Roman glances at the cabinet. “Anyone is fine.”
“Then why don’t you go grab one while I get the hot chocolate?”
Patton busies himself with the box, purposely letting Roman have his privacy as he picks out a mug, trying not to make his smile too blinding when he turns and sees Roman shyly hold out a big red mug with a sparkly crown.
“Good choice,” he says softly as he takes it from him, “I missed this mug.”
Judging by the way Roman’s mouth curls up in a little smile, he knows what Patton meant.
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Virgil walks into the room and sees Roman sprawled out across the chair. He almost doesn’t see it.
He’s got to give it to Janus; even though he knows he can hear lies, he’s not sure he would’ve believed that they were actually coming from Roman. Because Roman looks the fucking picture of relaxed right now. It looks like he saw Patton and Logan on the couch and decided there wasn’t enough room for him to take up as much space as he wants. It looks like he’s occupying the entire fucking corner and not just the chair. It looks like he’s every bit the arrogant prince they used to think he was.
Then he sees how tight his jaw is and the slight tremble of his hands.
The room isn’t warm, there’s no reason for Princey to be shivering. There’s certainly no reason for him to be so tense as he sits in the chair, tapping a pen against his cheek in a fabulous impression of mindless thinking but is actually a carefully controlled way of preventing himself from moving any further.
He’s gotta hand it to him. Princey’s good.
Virgil walks up to Roman and shoves his hands into his pockets as Roman looks up.
“Dark and Stormy,” he says in a perfected casual lilt, “is there something I can do for you?”
And wow, okay, if this is what Janus hears all the time then Virgil has no idea how he fucking does it.
Janus hears lies, Virgil hears fears.
Please don’t make me leave.
If you want the chair I’l give it to you, I’ll move, I’ll sit on the floor, I’ll be quiet, but please don’t make me go. I want to stay, please, can I—can I stay? Is that okay?
Virgil tilts his head. “Move the book.”
Roman furrows his brow. “What?”
“The book.” Virgil nods to the notebook in Roman’s lap. “Move it. Move your arm.”
Confused, Roman does as he asks only to squeak in surprise when Virgil pronounces it perfect and plonks himself in Roman’s lap.
“Virgil!”
“Yeah?” Virgil pulls out his phone and leans his head against Roman’s shoulder. “What’s up?”
“You—you’re—“ Roman still doesn’t move— “you’re in my lap.”
“Sure am.” Virgil looks up at him and lowers his voice to a whisper. “No?”
Roman’s voice drops too. “What?”
Virgil indicates his weight. “No? This okay?”
“Y-yeah, it’s fine, I just—what?”
In lieu of a verbal answer, Virgil reaches behind him to take Roman’s free hand and pull it close, tucking it under his chin and clutching it there. Roman’s hand trembles. He finds himself absentmindedly running his thumb over the knuckles, the palm, the fingers. He keeps his eyes on Roman’s face.
Roman’s other arm lowers, gingerly resting on Virgil’s legs. Virgil smiles and squeezes his hand.
“I’m sorry, Princey,” he whispers, “I’ve been fucking awful to you.”
Roman’s face twitches. “…so have I.”
“What, been awful to me or awful to you?”
For a moment, he thinks Roman’s just going to say that he’s been awful to Virgil. Which, yes, he was in the past, but not like Virgil’s been. But instead, Roman opens his mouth and shakily whispers: ‘both.’
“I know, Princey.” Virgil squeezes his hand again. “You’re all good with me, and we can…if you want, I can help with the second part too.”
Roman’s eyes widen and godfuckingdamnit that hurts.
“I gotcha, Roman,” he says softly, lacing their fingers together, “and ‘m sorry I haven’t been there for you recently.”
Roman swallows, Virgil’s eyes drawn to the roll of his throat. “You…you want to help me?”
Roman, you’re gonna ruin my reputation of not having a heart by smashing it into fucking pieces.
“Yeah, Roman,” he reassures, “I wanna help you. You’re important.”
“I am?”
“Sure are, Princey.” He lightly knocks his head against Roman’s. “And if it ever feels like I don’t believe that, call me out on my bullshit. ‘Cause that’s bullshit.”
“What are you two muttering about over there?” Patton shakes his head fondly when Virgil decides to just turn his head upside down instead of turning around. “Virgil, that’s not good for your spine.”
“We’re metaphysical, Pop-star, who cares?”
“When you start complaining about neck pain,” Logan says wryly, “me.”
He glances up too and Virgil hides a smirk at how his face softens when he spots Roman’s expression.
“Is everything alright?”
“Yes, yes,” Roman says hurriedly, “everything’s fine.”
“It’s Hug Roman time,” Virgil says immediately after, “so I’m hugging Roman.”
“I think that’s less of a hug than you sitting on his lap,” Logan says, standing, “but we’ll never fit all of us on that chair.”
Virgil feels more than hears Roman’s inhale as Logan and Patton start moving the couch cushions to the floor. He sits back upright just in time to see Roman’s hopeful face and butts his head against his again.
“Come on, Princey, let’s go.”
“…are you going to stand up, or…?”
“Or you could carry me.”
“Virgil,” he hears Patton chide.
“No, no,” Roman says, “it’s fine, I can carry him if he wants to be carried. I will need my hand back, though.”
Okay, yes, Virgil does enjoy Roman carrying him a bit too much for altruistic purposes but it’s worth it when Roman goes to gently set him down and the other two pull him down instead.
“There,” Logan says softly as Roman’s head comes to rest against the base of the couch, “much better.”
Roman opens his mouth to say something when Logan’s hand tangles in his hair and it turns into a slightly strangled sound. Patton chuckles, wrapping his arms around Roman and sighing softly.
“Hey, who wants to play a game?”
Remus’s head pops up from behind the couch.
“We’re already playing a game,” Virgil says, “it’s called Cuddle Roman, now get your butt down here.”
Remus gasps. “My favorite!”
“Okay good,” Virgil mutters as he moves out of Roman’s lap to make room for Remus, “I totally thought he was talking about butts.”
“I have a feeling, my dear,” Janus sighs, striding from the shadows and totally not making Virgil jump, “that it’s both.”
Remus just cackles. Janus takes a seat, reaching out to take one of Roman’s hands in his. Roman frowns at him slightly, his head still spinning from the amount of people around him.
“What—is there something wrong?”
Janus shakes his head. “It’s Hug Roman hours. So I’m here.”
Vigil chuckles at the blush on Roman’s face. “So this is becoming a regular thing, right?”
“Oh, absolutely.”
“Indeed.”
“Yay!”
Remus just holds his brother tighter.
——————————
“…come in.”
“If you’d like to reschedule, Roman, it’s no trouble, I’m happy to…”
Logan trails off as he walks into the room, Roman’s back to him as he hunches over a table near the door to the Imagination. He shuts the door quietly behind him and tucks the notebook under his arm.
“Roman?” He takes a step forward. “Are you alright?”
“Never better, Specs,” Roman says cheerily, too cheerily, “just give me one moment and I’m all yours.”
Logan frowns. “If you’d like to reschedule, Roman,” he repeats, softer this time, “I can assure you, it’s fine.”
“No, no, that’d be rude.” Something crinkles in Roman’s hands. “Just—just one moment.”
There’s a heavy clunk and a barely contained hiss.
“Roman—“ he starts forward— “are you hurt?”
“Not hurt.” Another clunk. “Just…incredibly clumsy, it seems.”
“Can I help?”
If he weren’t paying attention, he would miss the way Roman’s shoulders tense with disbelief.
“N-no, that’s alright,” Roman says, the first time his voice has slipped, “I’m just…no, it’s alright.”
He jerks his head toward the desk, being very careful not to let Logan see his face.
“It’s over there, I’ll be with you in one moment.”
Logan looks, then walks over to the desk and carefully sets down his notebook. He glances up at Roman and can’t stop the soft noise at seeing Roman’s hands shake and fumble with a large bottle.
“Roman,” he calls softly, “Roman, please.”
Roman freezes.
“…please what?”
“Let me help you,” he says, walking over, “let me help you with this.”
Roman shudders and tries to laugh again. “You don’t need to busy yourself with inane and worthless tasks, Logan.”
Oh. Oh, dear.
“You’re not inane or worthless, Roman,” he says firmly, “nor are you a task.”
Roman’s shoulder is cold under his hand. He cups it nonetheless and leans closer, mindful to keep his gaze down and away.
“Please?”
Under his hand, Roman sighs. “…if that’s what you want.”
He’s not prepared for when Roman turns around, a bottle of micellar water in one hand and cotton ovals in the other. His makeup—done so wonderfully this morning—is smeared and wearing away, his nose bright red under the concealer. Logan lets out another soft noise, taking the proffered items and gently pushing Roman to sit on the table.
He takes one of the cotton ovals and gets it damp, cupping Roman’s chin in one hand.
“Let me know if anything starts to sting or hurt,” he instructs softly and starts to clean the smudges from his face. Roman sits perfectly still, his gaze down at Logan’s tie. His hands fold neatly in his lap and he looks every bit the cooperative ideal.
Except for the way he looks terrified every time Logan so much as shifts his hand.
“You are not worthless,” Logan says quietly as he works, swapping out the cotton ovals when needed, “you are not annoying me. You are someone I care about very deeply and someone I enjoy helping.”
Roman’s chin wobbles.
“I am always impressed by the ideas you create,” he continues after quietly bidding Roman to turn slightly, “and you never cease to amaze me with your creativity.”
Roman’s throat works against his hand as he swallows. “Remus—“
“Remus is Remus,” Logan interrupts gently, “turn—yes, there you go—and you are Roman. You are clever, you are kind, and you are wonderful, and I care about you very much.”
He takes a new cotton oval and takes Roman’s chin again, tapping gently until Roman makes eye contact.
“Close your eyes,” he bids, “and let me know if they start to sting at any point.”
Roman closes his eyes and Logan carefully, carefully starts to clean off the eyeshadow. The golden sparkles are stubborn, clinging to the skin, but he works patiently until the last of them come off. He realizes after that the oval is wetter than it was when he began.
“Oh, little star,” he breathes, glancing around and summoning a soft washcloth to clean Roman’s face the rest of the way, “it’s alright, you can cry if you need to. I won’t mind.”
“It’s stupid,” Roman mutters, raising a hand to swipe angrily at the tears, “it’s stupid.”
“If it’s making you upset, it’s not stupid.” Logan gently but firmly places Roman’s hands on his own shoulders and replaces them with the cloth. “Tell me?”
“I—it’s not even a quest.” Roman’s voice cracks horribly on the last word. “It’s just—I was making something and it broke and I—I worked really hard on it and now it’s ruined.”
Logan lets out a soft noise. “I’m sorry.”
His chest aches when the apology makes Roman shake himself. “It’s fine. Sorry, I didn’t want to just dump that on you.”
“I asked you to tell me what was wrong,” Logan chides, patting his cheek dry, “you’re not dumping anything on me.”
He sets the cloth aside and cups Roman’s face with his hands.
“And I am also sorry,” he whispers, “that I have made you believe that I do not worry about you the same way I worry about Thomas.”
Roman’s eyes fly open. “You—you what?”
“I care about you very deeply, Roman,” Logan says, “you’re very important to me. So yes, of course, I worry about you. You’re upset, and I’ve made you feel like you can’t come to me. I…I have not behaved well toward you. And I will remedy that.”
A new wave of tears meets Logan’s thumbs carefully swiping them away.
“Bonk?”
Roman leans forward and lets Logan rest their foreheads together. After a moment, his hands move to give Roman a proper hug, leaning up to press a kiss to his forehead.
“What were you making, if I may ask?”
“…just a house.” Roman sniffles. “It got destroyed in the last brainstorm.”
“Would you like help?”
“…don’t we have to work on the ideas?”
Logan smiles, resting their foreheads together once more. “This feels more important, doesn’t it?”
Roman’s small but warm smile is more than worth the extra hours they’ll have to spend working on the videos.
——————————
Somehow they forgot.
Somehow they forgot that Roman was scared of the dark.
It wasn’t common that thunderstorms plagued the Imagination, simply because—well, Thomas didn’t need literal brainstorms when he’s got Logan working with him. Sure, sometimes Remus decides he’s going to make his entrance extra cliché and arrive in a literal flash of lightning. Or Roman will create a field of flowers larger than the eye can see and soft bruised purple clouds will roll across the sky, quiet thunder and light rain that feels like a cushion.
But it’s never enough to cause a blackout.
For a moment, they’re all just confused. Thomas’s apartment is fine, Thomas is fine, so they don’t understand what’s happened. Then Remus points out that they, uh, maybe didn’t close the door to the Imagination as tightly as they should have.
He gets smacked upside the head for that.
So they’re here, in the middle of the dark, trying frantically to figure out how to not run into everything. Well, three of them are fine. Virgil can see in the dark. Janus can see in the dark. Remus can see in the dark.
“Is that because you’re the Dark Sides,” Patton mumbles as he puts his glasses back on for the fifth time in the past minute, “or do you each have some kind of ability?”
Remus smiles, even if Patton can’t see it. “It’s more fun!”
“That doesn’t—“ Logan pinches the bridge of his nose— “that doesn’t even answer the question, Remus.”
“I think you’ll find that’s his justification for most things,” Janus says wryly, taking Patton carefully by the arm and guiding him to sit on the couch, safely out of harm’s way.
Virgil elbows Remus to get him to put down the Morningstar, please, and sits down next to Patton. “How long is this going to take to go away?”
Remus shrugs. “Dunno. Probably won’t be that long. We all just gotta sit tight.”
Janus raises a hand to his mouth—not that Logan can truly appreciate his expression—and mock gasps. “Remus, suggesting that we don’t do anything?”
“Oh, fuck off, Snakey.”
“Language!”
Remus blows a fat raspberry. “Even I know it’s a bad idea to try and do something right now. I mean ask Roman—“
It takes a moment for them to realize that Roman isn’t sitting there.
“We should go get him,” Logan says after a moment, “just to make sure we’re all in the same place.”
And with that, Remus is off, stomping up the stairs and conveniently forgetting that two Sides can’t see past the little pinpricks of light at the bottom of the windows. Virgil rolls his eyes and makes to stand, only to frown.
“Virgil?” Logan touches his elbow when he notices him pause. “Are you alright?”
“Feels like I’m being summoned.” He rubs his chest absentmindedly. “But not really.”
“Well, let’s just keep an eye on—hey!”
Virgil doesn’t even hear the end of Logan’s sentence before he’s yanked into another room.
He blinks, disoriented, shaking his head to figure out where he is. Only when Remus bursts up the stairs and pouts that how dare Virgil sink out to beat him here does he realize why he’s here.
Judging by the way Remus’s face falls a second later, he does too.
Remus knocks lightly on the door. After a moment, he curses and goes to knock louder.
“Don’t,” Virgil mutters, grabbing Remus’s arm, “you’re gonna freak him out more.”
“Well, I can’t just blow the fucking door open,” he growls, shaking him off, “that’s gonna make it worse.”
He opens his mouth but another sharp tug from his chest makes him wince. “Okay, then don’t bust it down. Just—oh, god, we gotta get in there.”
“Don’t gotta tell me twice.”
Remus doesn’t rear back and kick the door open, which says something about how concerned he is. They can’t see much of anything except for—
—oh.
Oh, no.
Roman notices immediately when the blackout happens. How could he not? He’d been in the middle of trying to sort out his journal for the day when suddenly he was drowning.
Oh god.
Oh, god.
Within an instant, his chest seizes. He can’t see. He can’t see. There’s something—
No. No, it’s fine. He’s in his room. Everything is fine. Because he’s safe. He’s in his room, he knows where everything is, he knows what everything is in here, he’s fine.
There’s nothing here to be scared of. There’s nothing here to be scared of.
So why is Roman so scared?
He shouldn’t be. He shouldn’t be. He’s a prince, for Disney’s sake, he’s the protector of the Mindscape, he’s—he’s—
He’s Prince Roman. Not some newly minted squire crying because he’s away from home for the first time and it’s all dark and scary and he can’t see anything because he doesn’t know what’s going on and he can’t tell where anything is and he swears he can see things moving in the shadows and—and—and—
Roman shoves his fist in his mouth before he can whimper.
No. No. He’s fine.
He’s fine.
…besides, what would the others say?
He’s a prince. He’s Roman. He’s not some scared weak thing. He’s just—he’s just—it’s—it’s—
They can’t see him like this. He’s supposed to be strong. He’ll never be taken seriously if they don’t see that he can be strong. They don’t take him seriously already, do they? Let alone if they could see him in the dark, alone, hyperventilating, terrified.
But he is.
He’s—he—
Something moves.
Oh, god, something moved.
He freezes, goes absolutely still, tries frantically to still his heaving chest, be small, be unnoticeable, his pride doesn’t matter right now, it doesn’t, he’s not gonna be hurt if he can’t be seen—
“Ro-Bro?”
His next inhale is a whine.
No, no, not Remus—he can’t—not Remus, Remus is strong, Remus will laugh at him, Remus loves the dark, he can’t cry in front of Remus, not for this—
“Oh, Ro-Bro,” he hears through the haze, “Ro-Bro, I’m so fucking sorry, I forgot, hey—hey—“
He won’t cry. He won’t cry. He won’t cry.
“Hey,” Remus calls, tugging carefully at the hand clapped over his mouth, “hey, don’t do that, Roro, you’re gonna hurt yourself, stop it, it’s gonna fucking hurt if you do that, you know that—“
The sob that tears itself out of his throat as Remus pries his hand away hurts his ears.
“Hey, Roro,” Remus soothes, taking his hands and squeezing them firmly, “hey, you gotta just be here for me, you focus on me, okay?”
“Re—“
“Come here, Ro.”
Remus scoops him up into his lap. To hell with whatever is twisting around in the shadows, Remus is holding him in his lap, rocking him back and forth and Remus is of the dark.
A rush of shame through his stomach and the first real sob into Remus’s shoulder hurts.
“Nuh-uh, Ro,” comes the mutter over his head, “don’t hold it in.”
The shame only grows. Then Remus tightens his grip until it’s all he can feel.
“I’m right here, Ro, I’m right here. It’s okay. You can be scared.”
“N-not scared.”
A gentle hiss in his ear as something—someone presses against his back and more arms than he can count wrap around his chest.
“Shh, shh,” Remus murmurs as he starts, “it’s just Janny.”
“Boo,” Janus whispers as he presses a kiss on his shoulder. Why—why is he here—did he—did he lie too much? He’s not scared, he’s not scared—
“Shh, sweetie,” he whispers as Roman starts to flinch, “I’ve got you, you’re okay, sweetie, stop that. We’ve got you.”
“You’re scared, bud.” Is that—is that Virgil? “Hey, hey, buddy, we got you. I’m sorry, Roman, I forgot you were so scared of the dark.”
Can’t be scared, can’t be scared—
“Shh, shh, sweetie,” Janus murmurs, “stop that. You’re allowed to be scared, it’s okay. You don’t have to be ashamed of it.”
Virgil presses closer, nudging Janus’s head out of the way and replacing it with his own. He leans down to nuzzle into the crook of Roman’s neck, finding the place his collar digs into his neck and loosening it. Curse him. Curse him.
“Hey, bud,” Virgil murmurs, “you’re okay. You’re okay.”
“N-no—“
Janus hisses gently in his ear again.
“No—“ Roman’s breath hitches— “no, no, no—“
“Roman,” comes Logan’s warm voice from somewhere above him, and no—
“Give him to me,” he hears again after a moment, and when he feels Remus’s arms begin to loosen and Janus pulls away he mewls—
“Hush, little one,” Logan says softly, gathering the poor prince into his lap, “you’re safe, you’re right here, it’s just a blackout.”
“You’ll—“ Roman hiccups, his hands still pushing Logan away from him— “you’ll laugh—“
“Never,” comes the chorus, Logan’s arms firmly around his waist. Then another pair of hands covers his and pulls them away.
“Hey, kiddo,” Patton murmurs, gently but firmly placing his arms around Logan’s neck so Logan can cuddle him properly, “sorry it took us a little longer to get here, we had to take it slow up the stairs.”
“Pat—Pat—“
“It’s okay, sweetheart,” Patton coos, crouching down to run a hand through his hair as Logan tucks him into the crook of his neck and Virgil rests his head on his shoulder, “we’re all here, it’s okay.”
“Stupid—st—stupid,” Roman mumbles, “I’m stupid—“
Another hiss, followed by a kiss to the nape of his neck. “Stop lying, sweetie,” Janus whispers, “stop it. You’re not stupid.”
“I’m a prince afraid of the dark,” Roman spits out, disgusted, “of course I’m stupid.”
“Falsehood,” Logan murmurs with more tenderness than Roman can remember, “you’re not stupid. You’re not.”
“I’m crying because I’m afraid of the dark,” he spits again, “I’m af-fraid of the dark—I’m afraid of the dark, I’m—I’m afraid—“
He’s afraid of the dark.
Patton presses a kiss to his forehead. “I don’t like the dark either, sweetheart.”
“You’re—you’re not—you’re not crying—“
“No, I’m not.” Another kiss. “But you are, Roman, and that’s okay.”
“Come on, Princey.” Virgil butts his head gently against Roman’s. “You just gotta breathe first, okay? We’re not going anywhere.”
Remus calls from somewhere over his shoulder—what has he been doing? Where’s he been?— “come on, I got all the pillows.”
“Re?”
“Come on, Ro-Bro,” Remus murmurs, appearing at his other shoulder, “close your eyes.”
“It’s already d-dark, Re.”
“I know, but I don’t wanna get the blanket in your eyes.” Suddenly, there’s a swath of fabric hitting him in the face. “It’s just for a moment, Roro.”
“Ready?” Logan scoops him up. “Up we go.”
“H-how can you see?”
“He can’t,” Janus says, suddenly appearing behind him, “but I can. Come now, my prince, we’re just over here, come on…”
Roman lets out a soft noise of surprise when his back hits something soft.
“Snap yourself into something more comfortable, sweetie,” Janus murmurs, “we’re all just going to stay here for a while.”
Patton takes his hand and kisses the back of it as Logan helps tug down the t-shirt he’s poofed himself into.
“I’m sorry,” Roman mumbles, “I’m sorry I’m so scared.”
“None of that now, sweetheart,” Patton chides, cuddling into his side—oh, Patton’s in soft things too now— “you’re gonna be taken care of now. We’re right here.”
“I’m right here, Ro-Bro,” Remus says, promptly flopping down over Roman’s legs, “and no one else is going anywhere.”
Virgil huffs, curling around his head and ruffling his hair. “He’s right, Princey. Just relax for a little.”
“H-how long is the blackout going to last?”
“I don’t know, sweetie,” Janus says, snuggling into his other side, taking his hand between two of his, “but we’ll be here the whole time. Now please, sweetie, breathe.”
He tries. But it’s still dark and even though he knows the others are here, he can still feel the darkness pressing in on top of him. He can still see things moving in the shadows. He can feel it. He can see it. It hurts.
“Roman,” comes Logan’s voice, warm in the dark, “Roman, listen to me.”
“L-Logan?”
“Yes, dear,” he says, “it’s alright. Virgil is by your head, and he can see in the dark.”
Virgil gives his hair a little tug. “Right here, Princey. I’ve got you.”
“Patton is on your left. He won’t let anything hurt you.”
“I’ve got you, sweetheart.” Patton kisses his cheek. “I won’t leave you.”
“Janus is on your right. He can also see in the dark, and it’s his job to protect you.”
Janus leans down to kiss his temple and squeezes his hand. “My prince,” he murmurs tenderly, “my sweetie.”
“And Remus…”
“Nothing’s laying a fucking finger on you, Ro-Bro,” Remus growls from down by his feet, “they’re gonna have to get through me first.”
Logan chuckles. “See?”
“L-Logan?”
“I’m right here, little star,” he says softly, “what do you need?”
“W—where are you?” Roman’s hands tense in Patton’s and Janus’s. “Where—I—I can’t—“
“Hush now,” Logan says, so softly, so softly, as a hand cups his cheek to brush away his tears, “I’m right here, I know you can’t see me. I’m sorry. I know it’s dark. I know you’re afraid. It’s okay, my dear, shh.”
Roman tries to reach out for him only to be thwarted by the grip on his hands.
“Hush, Roman, it’s alright, what can I do?”
“S-stay, please, stay—I want you to stay—“
“I’m right here, can I—“
“Please—“
He almost sobs again with relief when Logan lies down, his head tucked over his shoulder, curling his arms about his waist.
“We’re right here, sweetie,” Janus murmurs, “we’ve got you.”
“I’ve got you, sweetheart.” Patton kisses the back of his hand.
“It’s okay to be scared, Princey.”
“We won’t let anything happen to you, Roro.”
It takes another half an hour for the storm to end and the lights to flicker back on. Roman stays tucked up in their arms, their soft words in his ear, gentle hands wiping away his tears, until he can blink up at all of them and murmur ‘thank you.’
“Of course, sweetie.”
“We’re here for you, Roman.”
“It’s no problem, Princey.”
“We’ve got you, kiddo.”
“All you gotta do is ask, Roro.”
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Remus knocks on the door, the present in his hands. Roman opens the door and tilts his head.
“Re?”
“Can I come in, Ro-Bro?”
“Yeah, yeah, come on.” Roman shuts the door. “What’s up?”
“This is for you,” Remus says, holding out the box.
“Oh—Remus, I didn’t—I’m sorry—“
“You didn’t miss anything, Ro,” Remus says quickly, “and I’m not expecting anything in return. Just wanted to give you something.”
He shuffles.
“And I, uh, I also haven’t really apologized for the shit I’ve done to you, so…it’s that too.”
“O-oh.” Roman clutches the box. “Thank you, Remus. Can I open it now?”
“Sure.” He watches as Roman carefully opens the box and pulls out the stuffed octopus.
“Oh, Re, this is so cute!” He holds it up, looking at the little face. “I love it, thank you.”
He turns it over.
“Wait, what’s…”
“It’s a mood toy,” Remus says quietly, “if you flip it this way, it’s happy.”
The cream side of the octopus has a little smiley face.
“And if you turn it inside out—“ Roman flips the plush so that a red face frowns at him— “it’s sad.”
Roman’s eyes widen and he looks up at Remus.
“I know you find it hard to ask for things,” Remus says, edging a bit closer, “so I thought this could…help.”
“Re…”
“And I—oof!” Remus lets out a grunt as Roman tackles him onto the bed. He chuckles, his arms wrapping tightly around his brother. “I’m glad you like it Roro, just promise me you’ll use it?”
He gets his request a few days later.
It’s been quiet, Thomas is taking a break, and they’re all in various corners of the living room. Janus and Virgil are lazing about in the patch of sun by the window, Patton is in the kitchen, Logan is working on something on his laptop, and Remus is toying with the grip on his Morningstar.
Roman walks down the stairs and he’s clutching a little red octopus.
“Hey, Ro,” Remus says quietly, hopping up and scurrying over to meet him as he comes down the stairs, “you wanna go be alone?”
Roman shakes his head, pushing gingerly into the living room. Remus turns to see everyone paying attention to them, including Janus, who’s sat up fully and is reaching out to Roman.
“Come here, sweetie,” he calls, “is your brain being a bastard?”
Distantly, Remus hears Patton huff at the language but no one says a word as Janus gathers Roman into his chest, bending to murmur softly in his ear. Virgil scoots closer, acting as the guardian, letting Roman relax with the knowledge that nothing will surprise him right now. A gentle tap on Remus’s shoulder and he turns to see Logan, who bends closer.
“What do we do to help?”
“Help me make a mattress big enough for all of us?”
Under Logan’s guidance, Remus manages to make a normal mattress with lots of comfy blankets and pillows. Patton comes from the kitchen with a glass of water set on the table near the three on the floor. He pauses as he turns and quickly sets a cup of tea next to it.
Roman’s grip on the octopus doesn’t lighten up, even after he’s been in Janus’s arms for a while, even after Logan’s gone over and helped Virgil walk him through coming out of the spiral. Janus walks over to Remus and Patton and quietly tells them they should try and get them all to eat something. Nothing too straining for Roman’s system, but something.
Patton brings out a few bowls of snack food and sets them at the foot of the mattress. Then he goes and gently cards his hands through Roman’s hair.
“Come on, kiddos,” he says softly, “let’s move to the mattress.”
Logan scoops Roman into his arms, depositing him safely in the center of the mattress, little red octopus in tow. The rest of them cuddle around him, some Disney movie playing on the TV. Roman eats, then lays his head on Remus’s shoulder. Logan takes Roman’s free hand into his lap and cradles it there, stroking it with his thumb.
About halfway through the movie, Roman turns the octopus so that the cream side smiles at the screen too.
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hc/ oneshot of levi coaching hanji bc they were about to fight w the mp bc someone was making fun of them?
First off, I'm so so sorry anon I really took my sweet time with this one.
The thing is I don't usually write anything beside very random headcanons when inspiration hits lol
I've been debating whether to try this or redirect you to a fanfic writer's blog since I'm not confident about my writing and my English is kinda rubbish imo.
But yeah, in the end I gave it a try. Also, sorry Anon but I'm not sure if I got exactly what you were asking for, and I went full MP huge fight mode. And it's kinda turned into vets stuff. I still suggest you ask a writer to do this, there's many cool blogs out there who can do a much better job in half the time lol
Anyway, if you wanna read my poor attempt at writing, here it is.
Warning: just some swearing, she/her pronouns for Hange
"Look, if it isn't the crazy bitch from the Survey Corps" a man with a raspy voice barked.
Hange dreaded those meetings with the MPs, no one in the Survey Corps could stand them, to be honest, but still, they had to put up the façade and feign some civil behaviour for the sake of the Scouts and the funding. Hange was well aware she had trouble controlling her temper most of the times, and experience taught her that she couldn't stand the Military Police talking badly about her comrades.
She knew that Levi and herself together managed to make a few scenes before, and Erwin particularly stressed it every time before one of these meetings. "And please, please I beg all of you to refrain from making scenes or even talking back to anyone. We're there to make a good impression, we need funds and fo heaven's sake the last thing we need is for them to have an excuse to think even less of us and undermine our funds" he said every time, with a pointed look directed at Levi and Hange.
She turned and stared right at the Military Police man who was talking about her. She smiled and waved, "Yes, that would be me, it's a pleasure to meet you!".
Levi snorted at the facial expression the idiot made. He hoped that Hange brushing him off like that would settle it, but he had been to enough meetings to know it wasn't over at all.
"She probably didn't score high enough to get into the good Corps. That's what they do isn't it?" the man nudged a colleague in the chest, gesturing towards Hange.
"Aye, scoring shit and then ending up in some titan's mouth. They're replaceable anyway" the pug-faced man joined the teasing.
Levi could sense Hange tense next to him. He knew what she felt, he loathed hearing comments about his comrades just as much as she did.
She laughed it off, though. "Maan I would love to watch the insides of a Titan! What do we have to lose? Another cadet will score shit and they can take my place. Unless some of you feel the thrill of bravery once in your life and decide to join" she shrugged. "Who knows".
Levi knew this could only get worse. He tugged her sleeve. "Hange, come, let's join Mike and Erwin".
"My, my, if it isn't humanity strongest!"
"The underground scum you mean"
"No, no, he's a hero now, isn't he? Should've been thrown to prison and was rescued by Smith like a fucking stray dog"
Both men laughed, while others were gathering around.
"Shut the fuck up all of you!" Levi admitted to himself he would have snapped just like that, but Hange had anticipated him. His eyes went slightly wide for a moment, but then his lips briefly curled up in a small smirk upon seeing the fervor in Hange's brown orbs.
He would have loved to join her and teach a lesson to those morons, sure, but they promised Erwin.
He tugged again at her sleeve. "Oi, it's not worth our time, let's go".
The MPs laughed. "Only thing that's worth the time or your sorts is getting minced up by some stinky titan's mouth".
Hange tensed and she opened her mouth to strike back, but Levi gently made her turn to face him.
"Let's not get into trouble", he said, staring directly in her eyes.
"But Levi you should-"
"Yeah I want to break their fucking noses as much as you do. But we promised Erwin" he tugged once more.
The MPs laughed again, louder this time.
"Erwin Fucking Smith keeping his lapdogs tamed!" roared the pug-faced one.
"No wonder he needs to tame them" laughed another one with an annoying high-pitched voice, "look at the kind of lapdogs he got himself! One's a nutcase eager to step into a Titan's mouth, the other one is a pint-sized thug fetched straight from the filthy undergound" they all laughed. "I think we're missing one..." he feigned thinking hard, with a hand on his chin.
"What did you expect from the Survey Corps and Fucking Smith? That's the best he could get, to be fair" a black-haired man joined them.
"Not that he particularly cares..." he added with an unpleasant smirk "these are just chunks of meat he is more than willing to feed to titans, anyway".
That was it. That was just what drove Hange over the top and Levi knew it. He could feel her clenching her fist under his hand, he felt her muscles tremble. He looked at her, she was clenching her jaw, a fiery light in her eyes, cheeks slightly flushed. She briefly looked at him, and he didn't need words of any sorts. He let go of her arm and nodded.
Hange launched herself at the black-haired man and punched him on the jaw.
Everyone was shocked.
"Do you idiots have anything else to say?" She challenged them. "You can talk shit about me all you want, I don't give a damn, but show some respect to my comrades, people willing to DIE for your fat asses"
Levi watched her. She was scary, definitely scary when angry. He briefly smirked to himself, she had used one of the moves he taught her while sparring.
She suddenly grabbed the collar of the pug-faced man. She lifted her fist and the man flinched.
Levi approached her but he just glared at the MPs. "I won't restrain her, you called it".
He turned towards Hange. "If you punch him in the nose like I thaught you, you'll knock him out and fuck him up, but not enough to kill him".
"I know" she growled, but she clearly was trying to control her impulse to strike him.
The man had the courage to smirk. "Did Smith manage to tame the thug but not this nutcase of a weirdo?".
Hange hit him on front of his nose with the heel of her palm. He passed out instantly.
It was chaos, the other two men launched themselves against Hange. Levi announced "I've got your back, Hange" and the fight started getting bad. Levi's eyes were checking Hange all the time, he knew she could handle it but he resolved he would avoid risking her getting hurt.
Erwin, across the enourmous room, paled. He heard shouting and suddenly a group of people were hitting each other. Levi and Hange had been gone for a while, and he had a gut feeling they were right in the middle of it.
He was speaking to an important old man who may just want to fund the Corps if he worked him correctly, he couldn't leave him. Not now. Erwin subtly excused himself and fetched Mike, without getting more than two steps away from the man.
"Stop them" he whispered close to his ear.
Mike's eyes travelled to the corner of the room and took notice of the fight. He didn't see Hange and Levi since there were a lot of people gathered around, but he didn't need to see them to know they were there.
He stared at Erwin. "The two of them?" he whispered back, "You think I can stop the two of them? Are you nuts?".
"Just do something, please. I can't leave this one, he's going to fund us with some good amount of money" he clapped Mike's shoulder.
Mike sighed. "Fine" he said, murmuring something along the lines of "wish me luck" while he made his way to fetch his friends.
He sure had to admit he didn't think it was this bad. Hange was clearly having the upper hand and she was the one who was hitting the most.
He grabbed her from behind and lifted her up, gesturing to Levi to stop the fight and keep the opponents away. She kicked around and ended up elbowing him on the temple.
"Fuck" he hissed, gripping her waist tighter "Hange stop! It's me!".
Suddenly, Levi was on his side.
"Let go, Mike, I'll show them" Hange was struggling to get out of his arms, hitting him in the process.
"Levi do something! What the hell" he hissed again, getting frustrated.
Levi caught Hange's wrist and she looked at him. "That's enough, Hange" he said calmly and she sighed and tried calming down.
Hange's gaze lingered on the mess she and Levi made. Well, it was mostly Hange's doing.
Feeling her relax in his arms, Mike released her and let her again on the floor.
"Erwin's gonna kill the both of you" he looked around. His eyes stopping and widening as he took notice of the limp man on the floor, two of the MPs were lightly slapping his cheek. "Is he-?"
"Just passed out" Levi interrupted.
Mike sighed and rubbed a hand on his face.
"There's the lapdog we were missing" the man with the high-pitched voice chimed up. "The sniffing weirdo".
Mike smirked. He put a big hand on Hange's shoulder and turned her aroun. "Let's go, Hange. Levi" Levi nodded and started to follow him, when the man with the black hair spoke up again.
"I've always thought he is involved with Smith"
Mike laughed. "I sure love that man, but I don't think the nature of our relationship is any concern of yours"
"That explains why he's been around for so long. Smith doesn't want to feed him to a titan like the fucking rest of these idiots"
Hange turned around vehemetly, but Levi stopped her before she could speak. "That's enough, Hange, they weren't even worth our time to begin with" he said in merely more than a whisper.
Mike stopped in his tracks.
"I'll have you idiots know he's been around for so long because he's fucking capable of staying alive and keep his squad alive. I'd love to see some of you out there" Mike was surprised Levi interjected to defend him, but the insults towards his capability wasn't really what had bothered him.
"Listen here" he said, turning around to face them. "You can say all the shit you want about myself, but not a word about my friends or Erwin for that matter-"
They laughed. "Isn't it funny how they fucking defend him and the coward is just throwing them to their deaths instead?". The black-haired man roared with laughter "Fucking idiots".
Without warning, Mike punched one in the face and Hange punched the other on the nose, the loud crack all too telling as to what happened to the bones.
Mike sighed. "I guess Erwin can't kill the three of us in one go".
Levi walked closer to Hange. "You okay?".
She nodded and stared at him. "Thanks for trying to stop me. And for understanding I didn't-"
"Want to be stopped" he finished for her. "I get it. I'll always have your back, Hange, but let's be more careful next time. They weren't worth it and I don't want to risk you getting hurt".
She smiled. "I got carried away, but you saw I actually learned your moves?"
Levi smiled. "Yeah, we should work on them".
She nudged his arm "That's not true, they were perfect and you know it".
"Yes, they were perfect".
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