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dimiclaudeblaigan · 1 year ago

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Yeah, I think it's the best choice to not tell people he's the king. I also think it would lave a bigger impact if he didn't and then someone else told them, like if someone realized it was him and told them later after he'd helped them (or if they just somehow found out long after he'd left the area). Dimitri literally helps commoners with their physical labor and doesn't say who he is and doesn't ask for anything in return. Saying who he is might come across as bragging, too, like look at me helping the commoners, it makes me better than other leaders.

I don't think he personally minds if people find out, but he's not going to go around announcing it to people either.

That also makes Adrestian nobles significantly more disconnected from the people they rule over. Even Leicester has lords who are very protective of their people and lands. They quarrel because they want what's best for their area and people, but that's worth a hell of a lot more than quarreling over politics, status, etc.

Ingrid also just has a general idea anyway by living in Galatea. If she didn't know what her people were up to etc, she'd still live in what's essentially a barren wasteland as far as crops go. She'd still be aware her people are also living in those conditions and would know they're suffering. Just by living in that territory, even if she was somehow oblivious to her people (which her paired ending with Raphael makes it clear she's not), she'd still have a pretty good idea of what they're going through.

It just means even more that the nobles in Faerghus do check on their people.

I think overall we don't much to go by with Adrestian nobles. A big issue there is Houses not having any content of almost all of them. Hopes is the best we have. I think Waldemar at least seems to take things seriously, and Leopold definitely does in both games. In Houses in VW he sacrifices his life so his soldiers can escape/leave with their lives. He basically takes responsibility and dies so that they don't have to.

I don't know how intimately connected Adrestian nobles are to their people, but I think it's fair to say Leopold is probably the most aware of his people with Waldermar in second. Dorothea's father is a noble apparently but we don't know the extent of his position or anything like that, and he seemed like trash anyway. Not sure about Hubert's father because we don't have enough information on him, but we do know Hanneman seemed to consider it wrong of Hubert to be involved in his murder. No idea if the guy had much to do with his people or not though.

In general, average people are at a disadvantage in her society. Like, with me, I'm not physically strong and I'm otherwise very average. I don't have any particular skills (outside like writing lmao). I just live day to day as most ordinary citizens in Fodlan do. I wouldn't get a chance to give my opinion or be heard, because I'm too ordinary for that. In other words her society favors people who have some sort of advantage.

Some people, sure, can work toward not being average, but others with say, disabilities, won't have that opportunity. If someone's physically impaired, such as having lost an arm or leg (which is very likely in war, no less) but they're mentally average, they're doomed to live in her society as an always disadvantaged person.

For me, at least with Dimitri's reign, I'd still get a say and a voice no matter how average I am (and that's how it should be - people should still get a say in how their lives are lived regardless of their capabilities). I could continue being average and living my life normally, not feeling pressure to be more than I am. For people with any sort of disability, that's great (physically and mental both).

Inb4 someone says being disabled is lazy lolol. And also, some people just want to be average (and some people are just incapable of learning the normal way or properly at all, such as people with learning deficits. Even I, while not having direct learning deficits, still have trouble learning how to do some things and it becomes overwhelming very quickly).

Some people just want to have a normal job and go home to their family. Some people don't want to be extraordinary. In her society, there would always be pressure to be more than what's comfortable for you, and I can guarantee fights would break out over positions.

There's this great line in FE9 where a citizen says what the nobles/people in power do doesn't concern them unless it affects them directly. They're just "faceless beings who rule from on high", and as long as they - the commonfolk- can live their normal lives, they don't care. But if those people were to take away their lands, etc, of course they'd rebel.

It's something that's an issue in Houses too, because so many places have been trampled by war - the war she started. That's already going to leave her unfavorably among the commonfolk, who are the majority of people.

If the majority makes a stands against her and they riot, her only choices are to have trained fighters kill them (i.e. killing civilians who are enraged by her treatment of them and wouldn't have made a stand at all if she'd been good to them) or give in to their demands. There wouldn't be enough jail space to jail everyone if the majority of commoners started rebelling.

Things like that are why Dimitri wants to avoid rebellion at all cost. If people are unhappy with his reign, fine, whatever, he'd step down if necessary... but he's not risking that if it's going to cost innocent lives being lost in the middle of the chaos.

Also, like Dimitri said, humans are weak creatures. People need each other to thrive. People want other people! We need social stimulation (look at us right now!), but we also need help in our day to day lives when things get rough, because things are stressful and sometimes painful. Humans just... generally want help from each other. It doesn't make them pathetic.

Something important to take away from their conversation there too is that Dimitri lowers his mouth and calms it. While Edelgard is arguing very firmly about her stance, Dimitri remains polite and speaks in a sympathetic tone. It's a reflection identical of their beliefs. She wants a society where people are firm, self-righteous, and unwavering. He wants a society that takes care of each other, is gentle and kind to each other, and will be reasonable and fair with others.

Edelgard's uh, Nabatean hatred aside, the society she wants is literally, by all accounts, an ablest society and a society that the already advantaged will get a leg up in. Who do you think would be in charge of the military after the war? It'd be the guy who already has the experience and knowledge and is already a war general. Leopold wouldn't lose his position, and if he's the one with the say regarding who his inheritance goes to, it's going to be his firstborn son.

People might say "it's not going to happen immediately after the war, but eventually things will change", but how can they? If the people in charge of each position choose who they want to succeed them, whether it's family or not, it's always going to come with some sort of bias. They'll pick people they know and/or are close to. It's not going to be some random schmuck of the streets. It's not going to be that extremely skilled and intelligent person living on the streets because they couldn't afford, financially, to keep a roof over their head.

It's true that the power centers about her. In the Japanese ending murals that's basically the long and short of it.

Someone with ADHD would probably struggle to take an exam too (especially if it's written). Imagine if they failed the exam, and it was because they couldn't focus. That kind of thing could happen and then, well... they don't get opportunities now. It's back to being a farmhand.

Religion isn't even a bad thing. Having faith in something or needing to believe in something to carry on isn't a bad thing. The way she treats it like it's some wretched brainwashing is awful. Imagine thinking someone's pitiful for believing in some kind of a god. I'd mention Petra, but we know how that dynamic is.

I'm not even religious in the slightest and have only ever stepped foot in a church for a funeral one time in my whole life (and it was a marine's funeral). It doesn't mean I think people who are religious and people who go to church are pathetic or devilish or something. Those may not be her direct words, but she definitely looks down on religion.

Tbh I think part of why Dimitri needs second opinions and so on is because he might hesitate due to personal views/feelings when it comes down to it. Any human being would. If it was something deeply personal to him, of course he would react in a way that makes him feel better.

That's why having other opinions, especially from lesser affected people or people not affected at all, is a good way to get things from a non-biased standpoint. Even if he sees something as correct, if a bunch of other people don't, he's going to want to know that and to know why.

Lol yeah I've mentioned in the past how Hopes is cruel because no matter route it is, the Gautier family will literally never be whole.

You're right though about the Lions getting the best content in GW (in our opinion, before someone feels that raging cactus up their booty)! I feel like we see how they act under such intense pressure, and it's... kind of amazing? They all give so much support to each other, and they work very hard to be a collective force and are very tightknit.

They also give each other emotional and moral support, and I enjoy seeing that it's not always the same person giving the news to Dimitri. It could be Gilbert, but then it might be Felix, and later it might be Seteth.

I'm sad too that we didn't get any reaction from Miklan. He has a relatively prominent role in AG, but in the other routes he's kinda tossed aside. Dimitri doesn't think Miklan will even have much to say "at all" about Matthias dying and Sylvain taking over for him, but I think it would've been more impactful to see him actually react to the news (especially since despite everything, they'd been a family unit for the past two years, even if it was still a bit rocky/shaky). Also, since Sylvain's mother loves Miklan, I imagine he might be worried about her at least a little bit as far as her losing her husband goes?

“it occurred to me that as long as we’re fighting the kingdom, there’ll be more death”

Then maybe stop invading, and there won't have to be more death!

But also like, it's kinda too late bc buddy made his bed and now he's gotta live with that. After killing a Margrave, ofc he's gotta expect potential backlash and Kingdom forces coming after him for invading them for literally no reason (their reason being for someone else i.e. Edelgard doesn't excuse that they did it).

Oh I've talked about this before, but there's no way the war will end post GW until someone is entirely annihilated or they simply have no fighting force left/will to fight left.

First of all, killing Matthias was the biggest misstep because now they have to deal with Sreng either invading, or they lose Sylvain's assistance (both fighting power and brains, which let's face it is a huge loss if that has to happen during the war at any point at all) temporarily, so he can ward them off.

Second, they attacked Sreng and faked it being the Kingdom, so now Sreng thinks the Kingdom attacked them first this time. While not true, not Sylvain has that to get through to them, which would be tricky to convince them because they'd probably think it was Faerghus trying to attack first this time to weaken them from a future invasion (and that whole situation is a mess as it is, and even though Sylvain's doing his best to fix it, the Alliance's bullshit just makes any strides he could've made way harder to do now).

Third, most people in the Kingdom will never forgive the Alliance for that period, let alone Sylvain (who makes that point very clear if Claude approaches him in battle after that chapter at the capital). He explicitly says he's "going to make Claude pay". This doesn't sound like a threat against the Alliance specifically either, but one directly to Claude who is spearheading this invasion, etc.

In other words, no matter what happens after the final GW chapter, Sylvain isn't going to just let that go. The way he says Claude just barged in there and killed people's parents made it extremely clear to me that he holds a deep grudge and resentment (and he already expressed that in the exact scene when he's officially named Margrave, that he holds hatred for the invaders and foreign threats).

That is to say that I don't think any amount of "uwu okay let's all be friends and stop fighting now" is going to work. If the Empire loses the war, Sylvain will probably still attack Leicester at some point (let me remind you that Sylvain is a man of vengeance and is extremely emotionally volatile about family and friends being killed, to the point it gets him killed in SB). If the Empire wins and Sylvain is still alive, he's prooobably still gonna eventually attack Leicester.

Even if he doesn't attack Leicester, the Empire will turn on them (which Claude and Holst explain they're aware of). If Edelgard still wants conquest post final GW chapter (which idk why she wouldn't since that was her goal from the very beginning and she says as much repeatedly), she'll end up going after them.

So then, if Faerghus is weakened and now forced to comply when Leicester asks for this and that, do we really think they'd actually back Leicester up? Nope! Not only would they have to deal with or keep watch over their borders regarding Sreng (thanks Claude that's on you), but they wouldn't have the military strength to give aid to anyone. Also, for personal reasons, they wouldn't anyway.

So this means Leicester just... wouldn't get help and they'd have to deal with the Empire by themselves, which could've been avoided if they'd fought with Faerghus to begin with. Then there's also the fact that they couldn't guarantee Sylvain wouldn't just straight up a small army to attack them while their backs are turned to the Empire. Hence, I think the fighting would go on until one or two sides were just decimated.

In SB we don't know how things would go because it just... unceremoniously ends and the three powers are all still there (so either the fighting continues post SB, or they all just magically stop fighting and continue existing as three nations, which would defeat the purpose of Edelgard starting a war against them in the first place and would make her and Hubert's words of aiming for conquest utterly useless and meaningless).

In GW it's uh. more clear cut that the continent is fucked.

I think, regarding Baron Dominic, that it was because Lambert was moving too fast and trying to do too much. Even Rodrigue was worried too (which we see in the Houses flashback). Lambert seemed to me that he was trying to make change very quick, like he wanted overnight change. Like, of course, we all would like that, but he also wanted to do this with foreign nations, including Sreng, who they have a long history with and it wasn't a friendly history.

I get the feeling Lambert was too open and trusting politically. He was trying to make hasty change, and that could absolutely be disastrous for Faerghus. One small opening and too much trust before they know if things are really settled and Sreng could attack from the inside. Duscur may not have been any sort of issue in that regard, but Sreng was desperate. They needed food. They didn't invade out of pure malice, but because they were going hungry.

If they had the chance to do anything, they would probably take it because maybe they just didn't want to wait for reforms and trade and all that. Maybe in the time that would take in an official setting would involve too many deaths from starvation. If Lambert was too open and trusting with them, of course they'd be likely to jump on that and take advantage.

I think the problem is that Lambert was too generous and kind to others. Dimitri is too, but he's more levelheaded and he listens when those closest to him tell him where his blind spots are. He knows that he can't just nilly willy fling the gates wide open for Sreng. He'd love to be able to, but he's learned restraint both from his friends and from what happened to Lambert. As a king, he knows he can't just endanger his people to make change. If there are no people to make change for, there's no point.

Lambert wanted to go through negotiations as well, but he was hasty about it. If I were a Faerghus resident at the time he was doing all that, I'd be very concerned if not terrified of finding out that Sreng is being just downright trusted by the king after their history of raids (and it's even worse in a sense when people are going hungry, because they'll raid just out of necessity of survival. Either they die in battle quickly, or they die slowly, starving). Like, how could I expect to be safe if Sreng attacked? To not be stolen from or killed?

Like, we don't know that he was just letting them in and whatnot, but we do know (iirc?) he was pretty hasty in trying to make peace with them. It was too much too soon and even Rodrigue was worried, and about Duscur - not even Sreng - at the time of the flashback. Lambert was going himself, personally, which risked him dying and the Kingdom falling into chaos because of that (which did happen).

Specifically Duscur itself wasn't an issue, but it was the fact that he going physically to see them (and took the whole goddamn royal family no less lol, save Rufus who was presumably not considered "immediate" royal family), and from what I understood he was doing that a bit too soon (again, too hastily). There was no guarantee that everyone in Duscur was on board yet. There was no guarantee that everyone from Faerghus was on board yet.

It's kinda just like... he was too excited/confident about the reforms/changes/etc. He made too many moves that were too risky too quickly. He didn't take heed of the warnings and concerns of the people around him who also had lands to lead. He was jumping right into what he wanted, no matter how good and positive those things were.

Lambert might've been a great person, but if his kindness became a weakness and endangered all the people of Faerghus because of his naivete, I can absolutely understand why other people/lords felt they couldn't have him as king if that's how he was going to rule. Things going well doesn't mean jump the gun, and because of his confidence in how talks were going, he probably skimped on security.

Fact is, I feel strongly that if Rodrigue had been there and more soldiers were there, they might've actually been able to prevent as much damage as what happened, including possibly even saving the king himself, and thus preventing Faerghus from falling into political ruin. Lambert also definitely should have waited before taking Dimitri with him out of the country.

Unfortunately Lambert seems like he was too kind and careless to the point it was becoming a danger for Faerghus. At least, that's what I understand from all the information we have. Baron Dominic especially never struck me as a bad or sour person. He doesn't seem to have any hatred or grudge toward Lambert, but he still couldn't get behind what he was doing.

As for your sadness about Rodrigue dying in AM, have no fear, for I am concocting a post AG situation too! ...That... involves basically the same stuff because Ferdinand Definitely Didn't Die Because I Said So, and because one day Claude has to go back to Almyra. In the meantime before he does of course, it'd be mostly the same general idea, but with Claude instead of Lorenz. Once Claude has to go to Almyra, Lorenz would take over his position. Also, hell, maybe he'd actually tell Dimitri sooner where he's from!

I, too, do not like a world without Rodrigue. :( But also, Hopes gives room for me to have this AU as a starting point for both Lion routes and branch from there, because Rodrigue is also learning different languages! It gives different potential after things settle down!

I feel like Dimitri is the kind of person where you have to trick them into passing off any work to someone else lol. Like, he'd rather do it himself and doesn't want to burden anyone with it because he thinks it's his responsibility and not theirs. I totally think his friends would trick him into splitting the work between them and have to be creative and think of different methods so he doesn't catch on. Man is too dedicated for his own good.

I get that with Petra! I think if she fought for Faerghus, especially during Hopes, she'd realize her treatment wasn't really... good? with Edelgard? Because like, at the end of the day, what if all of it was just manipulation, etc? Seeing how Duscur interacts with Faerghus might make her start having doubts. It's sad we don't really get details on her feelings about everything.

That's just it though, I don't mind people having a discussion and asking questions. It's when people jump to conclusions and spew insults or swear at people while clearly misunderstanding the context that I'm like nnnnope you're a piece of shit. If someone even just thought they understood it but left a polite response, I could correct them about the misunderstanding of the post and then we'd be on literally the same page (especially in this case, because Petra being a hostage is literally one of my biggest complaints with her relationship to the Empire and Edelgard and how it gets portrayed in both games, and her situation being exactly why her comments about Faerghus are bullshit. It makes her come off as selfish and just wanting her land to be all good and well, but fuck anyone else if it happens to them, which... is not a character I'd get behind).

Leicester is trying to fight with Empire because Claude thinks he's using them and being used in turn. No idea why he thinks he's using them though. He says that a few times, but like... what is he using them for/to do? For what goal? What does he reach by doing that? He always just says he's using them, but I don't recall if he even once mentioned what for. If it's for his happy ol' world, he's uh... failing pretty badly lol.

OKAY BUT LISTEN, SYLVAIN GOING TO A POLITICAL MEETING WITH SRENG WEARING A BRACELET AND EARRINGS FROM THEM. That's it, that's the comment, that's all we need from that comment.

I'm having a really hard time fathoming how some people consider SB to be a righteous/heroic route or a route where we're the good guys. The route where:

You invade two independent nations under the pretence of "saving their citizens from oppression" (though I guess you can't be oppressed anymore if you're dead lol) even though Her Majestic Hypocrisy repeats a bunch of times that she's in for conquest and that she'd obliterate anyone who stands in her way.

The cast keeps victim-blaming the invaded parties for *checks note* defending their countries.

The death toll is the highest. You have to kill Ingrid, Rodrigue, Gustave and Sylvain. And you can also kill Ashe, Mercedes (btw, if she dies, the cutscene where Dimitri and Dedue grieve changes slightly, which is nice), Annette, Shamir, Ignatz, Raphael and Marianne (how does Margrave Edmund feel about Claude's alliance with the empire knowing his daughter was killed by its army?).

IIRC, this is the only route where you conscript merchants into the imperial army. No wonder the empire has the biggest army.

Based Rhea who, despite being hunted, still thinks about the safety of the continent first in the final chapter. It's hilarious how characters like Edespot or Clyde harp on about how Rhea is the big bad, and in the few scenes you have with her, she's just kind? Anyway. Rhea based.

In the C support conversation - which happens right after Felix got seriously injured and Sylvain got killed- there's this bit where Dimitri is like "I don't know if I can talk with like everything is normal, so many have died already" and Edespot's response is basically "yeah I don't see it that way. Let's agree to disagree". Also, I believe she wonders if she shouldn't just kill Clyde and Dimitri once they're out. Even though Clyde is her ally at the moment. You bet on the wrong lord, Clyde...

I probably forgot a few stuff, but... oh well.

To be honest,

The only things I like about Supreme Bullshit are :

Its ending! Supreme Leader and Barney (well, at least they throw a sword?) being sitting ducks while Rhea steals the show, and sacrifices herself in an epic shonen scene to get rid of the real threat, aka showing that unlike someone, she knows how to prioritize, and it ends up in an explosion. It matches the ending of the F-Zero anime (at 0.48!), Rhea/Falcon rushes to deal a blow (a Falcon punch and a Seiros strike I guess?) to their mortal enemy, there is a giant explosion, and both Rhea/Falcon fade away in a blinding light. Too bad the Supreme Bullshit BGM is eons away from "Searching to the Truth" :(

The reveal that Rhea kept the keys to the sekrit passages in the Imperial Palace - or Rhea knows more about Enbarr and its castle than the current Emperor and her aides...

Doro's paralogue being incredibly tone deaf about, uh, soldiers being "too busy" by the Mittelfrank troupe, that they can't basically protect the dancers/performers from bandits, when the paralogue happens in an area that is expressedly supposed to be full of soldiers!

If starts align in a certain way, it's the only route in Nopes where Clout dies!

Leopold! He's like Victarion Greyjoy, only if he was taken seriously. But we, as players, know better! Also he's a living retcon, from having a major cichol crest to gift to his son because he fought well (and not to, say, Big B or even Ferdie) a sacred weapon despite the route being all about muhritocracy!

Supreme Leader plans and plays with the cards she has in her hand - from trying to get good PR to get rid of people (Varley sr) by pitting them against her next target (the CoS)!

An entire game full of new Supreme Replies (tm)!

For shippers around, it has a Cathmir scene where everyone knows Shamir will prioritize Catherine's life over her allegeance! too bad this is a Supreme Leader route, so no, Shamir won't fucking try to kill her for blackmailing her and can even kill Catherine herself later on....

That's not a lot lol, and most of it are breadcrumbs because for the proper plot...

Yeah, it kinds of sucks.

Supreme Bullshit is even more tone deaf with the War and its realities than Tru Piss (and that's a feat!), Ferdie being completely, uh, off the mark about everything (invading lands and rekting people, and then saying those people's fears are only in their heads! Pal, one of the first missions in the SB exclusive chapters is to rout refugees??? + the nonsense about the Kingdom having more crested generals, when data shows the Empire has more crested peeps than the Kingdom!), Caspar being turned in the worst version of himself who dgaf anymore about protecting "innocents" and "justice", and, uh, everything with Monica.

Victim blaming is the norm with Fodlan games, but yeah, it really feels odd that suddenly, in the Zahras chapters, Dimitri's all "okay" when his closest friends either died or were grievly injured and the game proceeds as it does when, come on, why wouldn't Dimitri kill her the second they're out of the Zahras verse??

I really disliked how Supreme Bullshit yeeted Ionius from Adrestia, or how it didn't explore in more depth the Insurrection of the Seven, especially since we side with Leopold'n'Waldemar against Ludwig, who used to be allies! Also, as far as I remember, no one mentions anything about Arundel, why he ran away to the Kingdom with a young Supreme Leader and how he changed when he returned, or something?

If Ludwig is pushed by Supreme Leader, reciting her Dad's words, as the one who led the insurrection and the experiments on her, why the fuck no one else mentions them, as Leopold and Waldemar were on Aegir's side back then? They don't even mention "Arundel" participating, like, Volkhard sides against Ionius and hides his niece, but 3 months later, he returns and offers her as a guinea pig?

As is the norm with the Supreme Leader routes, the "truth" isn't what we're looking for, because we know Supreme Leader pushes a narrative she will follow to reach her goals, but where Tru Piss gave hints here and there about her narrative being, uh, rubish, we have no clues here, and Leopold prefers to flash his loincloth than giving us anything meaningful about that incident.

When you compare them to Matthias and Rodrigue (and Gilbert?) who often mention Lambert "back in the days", it's more and more obvious that... we're not supposed to ask questions in Supreme Bullshit, and just go with the flow.

And it ends with a high five.

I'd say it deviates less from Tru Piss than Golden Shower does from Verdant Winds, but it's an "expected disappointment".

That's why my only higlights are not plot relevant (save for the Captain Falcon - Rhea parallel) - because we know the plot will never deliver something meaningful in a Supreme Leader route.

#Three Hopes #Three Houses #Fodlan #tbh it's fine if you keep going until the conversation ends naturally/you have nothing left to say/get bored of it lol #faerghus fun so i like talking abt faerghus #i mean maybe the country isn't fun until dimitri is in charge but the characters are!!!

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prorevenge · 6 years ago

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Destroy me as a person, I'll destroy your entire existence.

I'm warning you in advance, this is going to be a long one. TL;DR at the end. Names of people and places have been changed for discretion. I don't expect you to believe it's true, everyone has the right of doubt. The revenge mainly goes towards my thankfully-no-longer-stepmom, but it comes with a side of fuck you to my Dad who at the time was an enabler.

This story is part of the reason I have borderline personality organization. For those who are not familiar with it, it's not a disorder. I can funtion on a much higher level than someone with a personality disorder, however not as highly as someone healthy. I'm putting this beforehand, because you need to understand that I wasn't always like this. The revenge is the result of my personality being slowly and painfully crushed, and getting a last kick out with it's last breath. That last breath of my dying personality wasn't in vain, I'm getting the much needed therapy and help, and I'm making amazing progress. Part of that progress is sharing this. I only shared this story with my therapist until now. Yeah also inb4 "why your real mom didn't help you", she left with another dude when I was just a baby and reconnected with me 2~ years after these events take place, but that's a story for another time.

Background:

You see, my dad is a little bit of a Narcissist (yeah, I know I'm saying at the start of the post that he was also enabling, which is true. He seemed to phase between them depending on situation), but at the same time he is a really intelligent and smart guy, and the combination of these traits was really conflicting. He raised me the "Dad is always right" way, while at the same time he always told me to stand up for myself and never give up. You see, he raised me to be an adult since I was a little child. He taught me everything I know, even the things I needed and used for this revenge.

When I was around 9, we moved to a set of islands in a hispanic country, let's call them Palm Islands. We moved here because my Dad hated our country and wanted to flee. This is important to the story, because he didn't want to move back at all costs. So the island we were staying on at the time is island A. Island A was nice, I quickly learned Spanish and fit in pretty well with the other kids. There were at least 50~ nationalities in our school, so being a foreigner wasn't an issue. My Dad was single, so he was pretty active on dating sites. On these dating sites, he met Lilith (I found this name fitting, look up it's history if you are interested in a demon from the Hebrew mytholgy that kills babies). Lilith was a true Narcissists, in all the aspects you can imagine. She was a teacher, but never had kids of her own even though she wanted. She was from island B. The funny thing is that she catfished my Dad. It was a nice surprise when he went to pick her up to the airport, and was greeted by around 110kg more than he was expecting. Anyways, they got together, and everything seemed fine at the beginning. That's when the big 2008 crisis hit, and it hit really hard in hispanic countries. My Dad was let go at his job and was unemployed. Lilith offered for us to move in with her on island B. My Dad accepted without hesitation, because he didn't want to go back to our country. So this is where the issues start. The first problem was, when we moved to island B, we moved to a really rural and small, xenophobic little shithole of a town. They absolutely hated ANYONE that was not form a latin origin. Well, guess who was the ONLY non-latin foreigner (apart from my dad who didn't move out of the house, as he was unemployed for 2 more years). If you guessed me, you guessed right. It was hell. I didn't even get the chance to fit in. I was bullied all the time. Not just by students, teachers did it and even fucking encouraged it. I was beaten on my way home every week or so by 3 or 4 students, and I remember a time when I was lying on the floor, getting kicked by fuck knows how many kids, when I noticed one of the teachers passing, shrugging, and moving on. There was "go back to your country fucking nationality" graffitied in the town's playground. In the 3 years I lived there, there were several graffity removals, however, this one never got off... As this wasn't bad enough, here comes the fun part. Lilith. Now you are wondering why I named her after a demon that kills babies. Let me answer that for you. If the bullying from school wasn't enough on it's own, Lilith made sure I hated my life. She couldn't stand that my Dad loved me more than her, so she made really fucking sure of it. And why my Dad didn't intervene? Remember I said he didn't want to move back to our country at all costs? The cost of seeing my life destroyed was one he was willing to pay. So he just sat and watched as I suffered. You see, Lilith would always ground me for anything. Lilith would give me really specific instructions for really specific tasks, that were impossible to follow. When I obviously failed, I got grounded. Grounding me meant locking me up in my room with all forms of enjoyment taken a away. All forms of enjoyment for me, meant books. I got my books taken away. All I could do was look on an empty wall and swell in my suffering. Lilith would hold me in constant psychological terror. I was always berated, insluted and talked down on. I heard daily, that my worth is the equivalent to piece of turd, that I am even worth less than that. That nobody loves me and no one ever will. That all that I'm getting is because I deserve it. That I am a waste of space, a piece of human garbage. All the things you can possibly imagine that you don't want a kid to be told. And one last thing to add to the list, starvation. You see, she starved me, even though it wasn't starving in that little piece of garbage that she calls brain. I can't eat crude tomatoes. Not I don't like it and I don't want to eat it, I literally can't. As soon as I feel crude tomato flavor in my mouth, I start to puke. I can't control it. She decided that she will cure this by only feeding me tomatoes for 3 days. Guess how that worked out.. And my Dad? Just looked the other way. I was 14 at the time, and I tried to kill myself 3 times. If any would have been successful, I wouldn't be here telling the story, so hold on to your seats.

This seemingly endless nightmare got a bit better when my Dad got a job at island A and we could move back on our own. But I wasn't the same anymore. I was having serious depression, anxiety, panic attacks. I started smoking and drinking. I couldn't fit in again. I knew that if I wanted to get my life together, I would need to move back to my home country. But you see, being underage, I couldn't do it and my Dad didn't want to move back. Even though we moved back to island A, we still was relying pretty heavily on Lilith financially, so I knew if they broke up, we wouldn't have other choice than to move back.

Just a quick recap about Lilith: a sour lady in her late 40's who is morbidly obese while being really short, around 150~cm, is a teacher but never had kids of her own even though she wanted, was unhappy with her life in general, and being the true Narcissists she is, she blamed everything on the world. She hadn't dumped my dad because she is well aware of her physical traits and knew that if they broke up, she would most likely end up alone. This is where I wanted to hit.

So as I knew some psychology, knowing her personality traits, I somehow suspected that she will try to compensate for the above mentioned with cheating. But cheating is hard when you are a fat and ugly motherfucker, so my next guess were sex-chats. Boy, was I right. I simply installed a keylogger on her computer, and after 2 weeks I had a plethora of sex-chat logs to show my Dad. However, this didn't go as I expected. Instead of breaking up, my Dad got in a position of power after confronting Lilith about it. This was a serious miscalculation on my part, as I should have expected that my Dad won't break up because he doesn't want to move back, but rather use this in his 'games'.

I knew I had to go all out on this one if I wanted to break them up. So I hatched my master plan.

But I wasn't just going to make them brake up. Even after all the things that the place and her have done to me, I had a little fight in me yet, which at the start I referred to as the last breath of my dying personality.

I was out for destroying Lilith's entire life in the process and make my Dad do what he didn't want to while seeing me suffer.

The setup:

Remember when I said my Dad was active on dating sites? Well, he was really active again once we got back to island A. He was relentlessly cheating on Lilith.

First things first, I bought an extra SIM card for my phone. I needed a new phone number for a new WhatsApp account. You see, I knew that if my Dad deemed a lady from a dating site worthy of a fuck, he would ask for a phone number so they don't lose contact. As I couldn't imitate a woman's voice, I opted for leading him on over WhatsApp. Next I set up a dating profile on one of the sites I knew my dad was actively searching on, and I made his idea of a perfect woman, in every aspect, come to life. I spent days fabricating every aspect of her personality and life. This character was named Paula. Paula was a tall, blonde, thin, beautiful, intelligent and nice lady, who worked on island B as a make-up artist for the local news. She grew up in a family with 4 brothers (which I added because I wanted to have a quick and easy excuse if my Dad noticed any male-ish mannerism while speaking to him as her), loved sports, philosophy, and psychology (remember when I said my Dad taught me everything I needed for this revenge?) The pics I used for Paula were from a mostly unknown 30-ish South American actress from a really bad and unknown latin soap-opera (I don't know if it's the correct term in English as well). So I had really nice make-up photos worthy of a local news make-up artist, while having more normal and everyday pics as well. The little twist is Paula is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Lilith in every possible way. It was perfect. One more important thing to note is that my Dad was hooked on a sport that we'll call Squannis. It's a mixture between Squash and Tennis, hence the name, really popular in latin countries at the time. There were familiar Squannis tournaments with Lilith's family, who were really involved in Squannis as well. Also I hope I don't have to explain how extensive a hispanic family is. Important to note that we were the only foreigners in the family. With this information at hand and my WhatsApp and dating profile setup as well, I was more than ready to unleash hell upon those who wronged me.

The execution:

I started surfing the dating site. As with dating sites in general, you can't search for a person in specific, so I had to go over 200~ish profiles to finally find my Dad and mark that I'm interested in him. That same night, we get matched, and we start chatting. He is loving Paula. Every single bit of her. While chatting, I steer the conversation to make him say things like "even if I had someone I would break up with her in an instant to be with a Goddess like you", "you are my perfect ideal in every way", "where have you been all my life", these sorts of things. The sorts of things I know would get through Lilith's narcissistic wall of protection, and hit her in the very core. My dad was making comments on how she just met the perfect woman in a dating site. He spent basically an hour worshipping why she is perfect for him in every way. Guys, it was the hardest thing to not grin like I just hit the fucking jackpot. He was hooked, like a heroin addict. Next day, all day speaking about Paula. Then comes the third day. He asks for a mobile number, he wants to hear Paula's surely angelic voice. I was prepared. The conversation went something like this:

Dad: I'm having a really nice time talking with you, and I'm really afraid that you might just dissapear - as happened with others - so what if we exchange numbers?

Paula: I'm having a really nice time as well with you, but sadly I've been catfished a lot, and I'm really cautious when it comes to strangers on the internet...:( But anyways, as I'm really liking you, I'll make a kind of exception. Give me your phone number, we'll communicate on WhatsApp, so we don't lose contact, but promise me that you will not call me until I say that I'm feeling ready!

Dad: I can totally understand that, and I respect it. So let's do it your way. :)

When I pressed enter on the catfish message to send, I felt like I was pressing the button that dropped the nuke on Hiroshima. I was feeling the justice enter my pleasure receptors slowly, bit by bit. It was the best thing I had felt every since Lilith entered my life.

This goes on in WhatsApp, I'm taking a screenshot of everything that I think will hurt Lilith. After a week of talking I have everything that I want to send her. But I needed to make it believable, otherwise it will be an obvious catfishing, and I'm sure my Dad eventually would have traced it back to me. However, I had a plan for this as well. Remember when I said my Dad plays Squannis and Paula loves sports but lives in island B, where Lilith and faimily are located? You better do, because this is where it becomes important. Naturally, as any girl who is interested in a guy, will try out his interests. In this case Squannis. So Paula, after my Dad told him about Squannis, decided to get a lesson from a friend of hers, so when she meets with my Dad, they'll be able to play together. But would you know, on a little fucking hispanic island with extended family all over it, this friend happened to be related to Lilith's family. And would you know, Paula was telling him about this new guy she met on a dating site, who is from XX country and that's why she's taking lessons. After more chit-chat, the friend realizes that this guys is indeed my Dad, and proceeds to tell Paula that he has been in a relationship with Lilith for a few years now. So Paula confronts my Dad about this, who is in complete shock and panic mode. My absolute favourite thing was telling him the lines "I KNEW I COULDN'T TRUST PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET, YOU ARE THE SAME CHEATING PIG AS ALL OTHER MEN". After getting the last kicks in I blocked my Dad from every possible way of communication on all of Paula's accounts.

But here comes the sweet part. Lilith. My dear, dear Lilith. I tell her the same story about Squannis that I told my dad, then proceed to send her every screenshot, every piece of conversation that I knew would hurt her. Every sentence where my Dad describes the perfect ideal of a woman, and it's exactly the opposite of her. Every message where my Dad says things to Paula that Lilith always wanted to hear but never got. Sweet fucking Jesus, it felt good.

The aftermath:

After being in a position of power, and being the saint that never cheated in the relationship, my Dad got confronted by Lilith. By confronted I mean traveling to us on island A, knocking hysterically on the door at 2am, while I can't make out anything of what she says because of the fucking tsunami machine that her face has become. Oh, and the screeching. It was like a group of younglings racing on who could scratch the blackboard harder to make to most unpleasant sound. I'm loving every tear, and every moment of it. She is truly suffering. I destroyed the very pillars that held up her personality. I went into a porcelain shop with a fucking sledgehammer. They break up. Lilith is throwing punches. Police is called. In a fit of rage Lilith makes the mistake of hitting one of the officers. I've never seen 180~kg slammed into the ground with such grace. It was truly glorious. As police is escorting her out, I'm looking her dead in the eye. I can see into her soul, and I can see that the person she was is destroyed. As I'm looking her dead in the eye, I'm having the most shit eating grin a human can possibly enforce on it's face. Ultimately, we moved back to our home country.

Oh, and guess who has lost her teaching licence? If you guessed, Lilith, you guessed right. Turns out after this incident she had to go under a really strict psychological examination, which was a long time coming imo, where they determined she is unfit for teaching. Big fucking surprise.

TL;DR: Dad moves away from country and dates maniac, lets maniac viciously abuse son so Dad doesn't have to move back. Son reveals Dad is cheating, crushing Maniacs soul and indirectly causes Maniac to lose job and livelihood, and forces Dad to move back.

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Destroy me as a person, I'll destroy your entire existence.

Background:

I knew I had to go all out on this one if I wanted to break them up. So I hatched my master plan.

I was out for destroying Lilith's entire life in the process and make my Dad do what he didn't want to while seeing me suffer.

The Setup:

Remember when I said my Dad was active on dating sites? Well, he was really active again once we got back to island A. He was relentlessly cheating on Lilith.

The Execution:

Dad: I'm having a really nice time talking with you, and I'm really afraid that you might just dissapear - as happened with others - so what if we exchange numbers?

Dad: I can totally understand that, and I respect it. So let's do it your way. :)

The Aftermath:

Oh, and guess who has lost her teaching license? If you guessed, Lilith, you guessed right. Turns out after this incident she had to go under a really strict psychological examination, which was a long time coming imo, where they determined she is unfit for teaching. Big fucking surprise.

TLDR; Dad moves away from country and dates maniac, lets maniac viciously abuse son so Dad doesn't have to move back. Son reveals Dad is cheating, crushing Maniacs soul and indirectly causes Maniac to lose job and livelihood, and forces Dad to move back. (source) (story by shiny-poopstorm)

#prorevenge #by shiny-poopstorm #pro revenge stories #revenge stories #pro #revenge #revenge story

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