#also im really glad u loved the doodle!!!
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whaliiwatching · 10 months ago
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AHHHHHHHHDDHDJNDBXUDNXBSNA THEY'RE DANCING AND ITS ADORABLE YOUR WRITING IS SO GOOD AND WARM AND FUN TO READ I LOVE THIS ITS SO CUTE AHHHHHHHHHHH
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writing is soso hard but i promise im doing it
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startistdoodles · 2 years ago
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Part 2 under the cut :)
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Drawing Box Submissions Part 1
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I'm having SO much fun going through all the submissions, here are the first 30! Some of them inspired me to do some doodles too, so I will put them at the end in a reblog :)
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tgcg · 8 months ago
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I’ve just been scrolling through your blog and I keep coming back to it. Legit you have my favorite version of Davekat and I can’t get enough of it. I love all of the doodles and comics and answers to asks, and you are such an awesome artist and writer! You genuinely inspired me to try and make some comics and doodles of my own :3 I don’t typically make fanart (very ironic username I know), but seeing all of your stuff really makes me want to.
omg... dude, do it. make watever u want 4ever. put it on the internet if that maekz u happy. im so stoked 2 be an inspiration to ppl in that regard, art is a playground so u can do anythin (& plz do)!
im also rly glad ppl enjoy my interp of dk, its rly important 2 me heheh. these guys r a huge comfort 2 me.
thank u so much 4 the kind words, if u do do anything i hope u have a grate time & take care of urself <3
ik im taking a break rn, but ur message made me rly happy, so have a it 🙂
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isjasz · 18 days ago
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whazzit like using procreate? do u enjoy it more than ibis?
punches wall oh my god. oh my god im glad u asked i actually have so many complaints about procreate SAKDKASLHAHDAJWHE💥💥💥💥
FIRST OF ALL PROS
the brush sensitivity is really really nice. pen strokes flow a lot smoother there compared to ibis so i love doodling in procreate <33333333
brush variety is crazy /pos, love the graphite feel ones
animation assist, page assist, bloom, curves, gradient map, crazy functions theyre great
supports apple pencil pro squeeze
ok now that ive listed off the pros i can complain, long time ibis users only you will understand me but
why is it so annoying to flip the canvas. i use the quickmenu but its still annoying
theres no blending brush. u blend using the smudge tool. why
YOU CANT SET BLENDING MODE TO A GROUP ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME <- this severely hinders my usual process im 100% srs
also cant clipping mask to a group
THE FILL BUCKET IS FUCKED UP. ibis has so many more options oh my gods
if u only rotate the canvas a tiny bit it snaps it back. and theres no way to turn it off
you cant have multiple reference images what the fuck
no brightness/contrast adjustment option, ik u can just use curves but what if i want to use numbers man
im sure i had more complaints but thats about it for now i think
NVM I FORGOT A VERY IMPORTANT THING YOU CANT EYEDROP ON ONE LAYER ONLY. ONLY THE WHOLE CANVAS
so yeah uh. HASKLDJSALDSALKJJ i love procreate for its pros but now my process is usually procreate sketch -> ibis color -> procreate finishing touches 👍 or the inverse. really depends on what kinda piece im working on ig LOL (dd comic was done in reverse ibis -> procreate)
that said, id say getting procreate was worth it tho solely for the purpose of expanding my arsenal o7777 it just feels like i have more tools now
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choccy-milky · 1 month ago
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popping in to say HI! I'm absolutely in love with your art and your writing (late to the club & currently on ch 12 of the raven and the snake), Clora & Seb are THE CUTEST, I'm so excited to see where it all ends up <3
AW THANK YOUUU!!🥹 and hey, at least being fashionably late means you dont have to wait for updates😇 BUT IM GLAD YOURE LIKING IT SO FAR and i hope you continue to enjoy!!🥹🫶💖💖
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OMG WAIT I LOVE THIS??? WHY IS THIS LIKE THE MOST TOUCHING THING IVE EVER READ IM SO HONOURED BAHAHAH i hope ur sylveon is good and clora doesnt bring disgrace to her name......tho i do not take responsibility for any of its shortcomings or losses🙅‍♀️ (and THANK YOUU!💖💖)
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@adoranoctua omg HI!! i love that you arent even into HP/HL but still like my stuff BAHAHA thank you!! ive honestly never really done too much oc x canon stuff before seb and clora (at least not stuff that i posted, it was usually always just self indulgent stuff i kept in private/ doodles of me drawing a hot fictional guy with a random girl i cooked up LMAO) but ive fully embraced that self indulgence and shamelessness and its so fun... we can do whatever we want bc theyre OURS😈 so im happy my brainrot can serve as inspiration on that front, THIS WAS SO SWEET THANK YOU🥹💖💖
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@agoosecalledpeanut WAITTT YOURE RIGHT THAT SUITS THEM SO WELL THE MENTION OF LIGHT AND ALSO THE PROTECTIVENESS...😭😭 i also just looked up the other lyrics too and even the very first line "You take the dark and carve me out a home" CLORA TAKING THE DARKNESS OUT OF SEB AND GIVING HIM A HOME STOPPP🥺🥺omg im so brainrotted...everywhere i go i see their face.....and im glad u do too YOU CAN NEVER ESCAPE!!
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ryuuna · 8 months ago
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Hello, Ryu
Do you have any advices for beginners? I'm starting to think this is not for me and I don't know how to keep going.
Love your art! But my favorite Is Ahri, I love The way you draw her >:3 <-
Honestly first thing that comes to mind is that it should be fun! I find that having ppl focus too much on only fundamentals early on can hinder your enjoyment immensely
Just try getting into the mood and find the joy of creating something out of nothing; draw ocs or ur faves making out tongues galore, maybe just a page full of eyes or cute little doodles of aliens wearing thongs, w h a t e v e r. Also that not everything has to be perfect, it’s totally okay to make some ugly ass art and in fact it’s good for you. Sometimes u just have to be a messy bitch
It can also help finding artists and styles you really enjoy and studying what you really like about them, like how someone paints/uses colors or how another artist draws faces, etc. Gotta start somewhere. Then you can really hunker down and try to focus on fundamentals. There are so many wonderful resources out there now, esp on YouTube to really nudge you in the right direction. It can take years of pain figuring this shit out, but it's also very rewarding when u finally see some progress
But it's also totally okay if drawing doesn't end up being for you! There’s so many other mediums out there you can use to express yourself. Honestly I kind of want to try whittling, seems like it would be relaxing and fun at the same time
Also im very glad u like my ahri’s lil >:3c faces, should do more some day
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evelili · 11 months ago
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hii, i read your the twilight effect + your write-up afterwards. its definitely something i will be thinking about for a while. i love your twilight so much.. i do not normally read fan fiction or really much of anything at all, so im not too good at like complimenting writing and the sort.. i really loved the fluttershy chapter/trial and also found their interactions during the festival really adorable. and fluttershy + rarity on the bleachers with twilight at the beginning was also so cute. the entire epilogue was so wonderful to me, i loved seeing their relationships after the incident. theyre all so cute and best friends. i also loved the progression throughout their senior year. like idk, something about twilight having a rough hs experience but a great and friend filled senior year.. she deserves it soo much. and she had some tough moments but she overcame them.. love it. well i apologize for the rambling. i couldnt read something that wonderful and not say some words of appreciation.. essentially thank you so much for writing TTE and being willing to share it with everyone..!!!
waaaaa im so happy to hear this!! u have no idea how emotional it is for me to open my inbox and find such a nice message, thank u so much for taking the time to lmk how u feel ;v; dont worry about being "good" at compliments, this is so wonderful for me to read, thank u sincerely for it
and yes!! the epilogue ended up as long as an act by itself, but i think it was necessary for the type of story i wanted to tell ;v; bc, my own highschool experiences shaped a lot of what i wanted to express w this story, and perhaps its a little bit of a love letter to my high school self that hey, you will make it! it will be ok!! that type of feeling, it's what i wanted to convey, so im so very glad that it was able to come across
im very glad you liked the rarishy stuff too, their friendship is so underrated and so super important to me. i wish my hand were a bit more functional that i could draw you something nicer, but please accept this doodle of them regardless ^^ and ty so very very very much again for reading!!
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clemenlush · 4 months ago
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i adored your design and outfit for fem geto in your recent artwork so much i couldn’t help but add her to my little sketchbook lookbook doodle page (also just so you know this is just my personal sketchbook - i’m not posting your design anywhere i just thought it was really cool)
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OH MY GOD SHES SO SO SO BEAUTIFUL IM GONNA EXPLODE 😭🫶🏻🫶🏻🥺❤️🫶🏻 im glad u like her outfit!!! i love spending ridiculous amount of time on pinterest to find outfit inspos for characters hehe
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ashoss · 7 months ago
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Hii!! This is waterunderthebridge12, I just stumbled across your art of The Robin Declaration and it made my entire week <3333. I love Duke so much and I'm so glad there are others who love him too!!! I would love if you dropped your Duke-centric fic recs, I've only read a few good ones (that aren't just him being an outsider) so any recs are appreciated!
oh my god! hii! im so glad u liked the silly little doodle lol i would love to do an actual drawing for either The Robin Generation or the Robin Declaration !! they were such fun reads and i absolutely adored the way you portrayed all of them <33
unfortunately i dont really have a lot of duke-centric fics but i have a couple!
WHEN EARTH FINDS STARS. by orpheusaki
duke & jason, pre-WAR and signal
15.8k words, 4 chapters (unfinished)
"Let it be known that I completely detest the implications of what this situation is mirroring," Red Hood grumbles to himself and it's the longest string of words Duke has heard from any so-called Gotham vigilante, let alone the one who's known for shooting more than he is talking. "The fuck?" Duke mutters, because if he's already going to die, he might as well try and make sense of it. "I'm not going to care about whatever sob story you have," is what Red Hood replies with instead of explaining, "Where are your parents?" "Gone," is all Duke says, because it's really none of this guy's business. It's also the truth. Somehow, Red Hood sounds even more anguished about this information than Duke is, "Ah shit." (Duke steals the tires off Red Hood's bike and somehow gains a family.)
YOU HEAR ITS SONG FROM THE MORNING BIRDS. (series) by orpheusaki
duke & bruce, duke & batfam
9k words, 3 words (unfinished)
A series of Duke Thomas centric works, mostly featuring his growing relationship with his new kind-of-dad-boss-friend, Bruce Wayne.
Keep Your Head, Your Backbone, and Your Heart by MrMich
duke & tim, alfred, bruce
54k words, 6 chapters
The last thing that Duke expected on what was supposed to be just a regular patrol was being suddenly thrown five years into the past, coming face to face with a darker, more violent Batman than the one he knew, a broken family, and a Tim who was a foot shorter than Duke, and not even Robin yet.
A silent shadow flitted past him, just barely visible on the cave walls. He went rigid, tracking the shadow in the corner of his vision. And then he dropped to the floor, just in time, as a familiar black gloved fist passed overhead. He just barely missed being hit by the punishing blow that would have landed right on his temple for a sure concussion if he hadn’t dodged. “Batman?” Duke yelled. He somersaulted forward, just barely avoiding another strike. “B, what are you doing?!” “Who are you,” came the growled response. A shiver crawled down Duke’s spine at the grim hostility in Batman’s voice that promised violence, and something tightened in the back of his throat.
Family-- by incorrectbatfam
duke & batfam
3.3k words, 1 chapter
“Your assignment over the weekend is to write a poem about your family.”
Strange Bedfellows by snackbaskets
duke & steph & jason
2.7k words, 1 chapter
Little known fact about bats: they're AWFUL at sleeping alone. At least, the ones in the Manor seem to be, if the half-conscious kind-of-maybe siblings using Duke as a body pillow are any indication. When did he sign up for this?
Ghosts Of The Past by PlatitudinalTeen
duke & martha, thomas, duke & bruce
7.2k words, 1 chapter
Shortly after moving into Wayne manor, Duke discovers he can commune with the dead when his grandparents, Thomas and Martha Wayne begin to accidentally haunt him. ------- "No powers?" Duke repeated, even more confused as he tried to recall everything he had ever heard about Ghosts. "So, you can't possess anyone or make the lights flicker? What about telekinesis and all the other scary stuff from the books and movies?" "Those things can only be achieved by malicious spirits, dear," Martha told him. "We may be ghosts, but we aren't vengeful." They had made peace with their deaths, and even if they were still tied to the manor, it was exactly where they wanted to be. Thomas chuckled. "Yes, that's more of our son's department," he quipped, using his fingers to mimic Batman's ears. "Vengeance is a young man's game, really."
Starshine by zodarii_dae
duke & bruce, reverse robins
3.6k words, 1 chapter
Duke Thomas is a Gothamite, through and through. There’s not a lot he knows for certain, but he knows that the bagels are great, that Bruce Wayne is stupid rich, and that Batman will always protect him. That’s just how it is. So when Batman promises to bring him to his family, he believes him. Neither of them expected it to happen quite the way it did, but it all works out for the best. Or How Duke loses his parents, gains a new family, and becomes a vigilante- in that order, with some stuff in between.
necessary reminders by Quillium
duke & batfam
5.2k words, 1 chapter
Duke, as Signal becomes known and as Duke becomes part of the Wayne family.
*ao3 acc needed
hope you enjoy !!!
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ryuatewater · 6 months ago
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what happened why is there mass genocide of anons???
glad im not anon
wait-
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Well its from the anonverse uh ill explain it all wait
Okay so you know @/a-narcissists-warren right?
Funny thing they have their asks open and answer non question like stuff (basically just talking)
Well my friend started talking to them in anon while also adding an anon sign off so Afonso could recognize em (they used the 💽🎞 emoji combo)
And Afonso always* drew a little doodle when answering them, they even drew the anons and gave them unique designs based off their emojis
When I saw my friend talking to Afonso (who is literally my idol) I ofcourse wanted to do it too so I sent in a few asks (one or two asks really because i was nervous and shy) ALSO using an anon sign off (though i got the short end of the stick because my anon sign off had stuff to do with trees my lil guy was a tree too)
Then new anons started appearing so Afonso started drawing them designs too
People REALLY loved the designs and everything was going jolly
Then Notepad anon made an account for their anonsona
Everyone LOVED the idea and started making accounts too
The anons were interacting with eachother, drawing eachother fanart, blah blah blah everything was so fun and jolly!!
Heres the most recent pic i have of the anons btw
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BTW THIS IS DRAWN BY @a-narcissists-warren SORRY FOR THE TAG
BUT there was a certain anon (I've seen a few names used for them like funny, odd, creepy but most common was silly anon so ill just call em that) silly anon had an account way before they started sending asks to Afonso
I wasnt there to see it myself but from what ive heard Silly Anon is canonically a child, back when the account first started people sent "asks" to silly anon just brutally murdering them woth gory descriptions that i wont be talking about now, this of course affected the child a lot and the kid grew up to be extremely violent (they were canonically 7 years old when they started sending asks to Afonso i believe) they also closed their own ask box because they were scared of getting hurt again
Silly anon would brutally kill people if not given enough candy (they of course loved candy bc theyre a literal child) so there was a full on massacre that happened because silly hadnt eaten enough candy to calm down
I believe it was here when we learned of a power Afonso had, they could draw in the air with their finger and anything they drew became real! But if they drew too much theyd experience a burn out where their hand was literally burnt and they couldnt draw properly
So Afonso started drawing candy for silly anon and when they couldnt draw because of a burn out they went and bought some for them
Afonso also tried to treat silly well and made them feel welcome (acting like a parental figure in my opinion)
So silly started trusting Afonso
Afonso drew all the dead people back to life and everything was alright again
Timeskip to when sillys canonical birthday came, they were turning 8 years old, they made a post about it and tagged every anon, everyone gave silly candy and sweets!! It was going so well until ONE ANONYMOUS ASSHOLE stabbed silly anon, silly healed quickly but was enraged, seeing red even, the ask box closed back up and silly went on another rampage literally killing EVERY ANON THERE IS and they were killing these anons using methods people ued on them, making the anons live trough sillys trauma
Okay so every anon was dead, Afonso was outside while all this was happening so when they came back they were horrified, every anon was dead and silly was so mad they even wanted to kill Afonso but Afonso started crying about how they couldnt make silly feel better, become a better person and theyve done all that they could
Silly dropped their weapon and hugged Afonso falling asleep on their shoulder because they were exhausted from all that killing, they breathed out a white gas from their mouth recovering every anon thats body was still intact and not turned into a pile of gore
Afonso drew all the other people back to life so now every anon is back EXCEPT ONE, 💽🎞 anon (who we like to call dvd anon), dvd anon was underground when they got killed so they cant be recovered right now
But every other anon is back
Thats where the story is at right now
Ryu note: if dvd doesnt come back i will cry /halfjoking
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poscariastri · 5 months ago
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hi, previous anon back - I'm so glad I could make your day!!! I've been chewing on that art for the better part of a week now and decided you should know how much I love it :]
lowkey I'm mildly scared to drop a dm given the fact that like. I don't have an f1 blog or sideblog and I don't really intend on making one rn haha (most of what I know of f1 is against my will and I've imprinted on lance LOL)
oooo piastroll is also good! I've always called it osclance in my head haha but I think your idea flows better - and YES their numbers are so good together <3 reverses and nines and squares and all that, man they have such nice numbers...
I have. never seen that nando jesus pic. I'm saving it rn that's amazing. something something, jesus rose on the third day, nando came back to f1 after three years, wonderful parallels there... and the aston martin wings... oh I am DEEPLY abnormal about those wings...!!! awww teeny tiny mini nando jesus on the globe (I think) being all radiant <3
oh I LOVE those concept sketches... oscar wants another home race... the fisheye perspective is really good and I love it sm! and lance's stupid facial hair (beloved) and that panel with the two of them like in a romcom meet-cute where oscar Knows His Next Move and lance very much Does Not... and then the next one with PASTOR NANDO I AM CRYING. THAT MAN SEEMS LIKE HE'S EXCITED TO MARRY OFF HIS YOUNG PADAWAN LMAOOOO (he probably threatened oscar at least five times that if he finds lance crying it's on sight) (but also would take shots with both of them at the reception)
and yes I'll 100% accept rent in the form of more oscar and lancey (though obviously you don't have to if you're not feeling it!)
HI anon! thank you again im so glad you enjoy that silly art so much! you ofc dont have to DM if u dont want to no pressure (saluting face emoji (im on pc))
as a tribute to you and your wonderful askbox rambles i came up with another doodle! not as much effort in this one but i thought of it at 3 am and immediately had to draw it (i. did not get a lot of sleep) hope you like it!
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theyre badly cropped bc again im on pc and tumblr pc hates me (its mutual) and somehow i never manage to draw in the right size for the canvas lmaoo but here TAKE IT AND RUN!!
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dicediceking · 1 year ago
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CAN I JUST SAY IM OBSESSED WITH HOW U DRAW PAINTY. THEYRE PERFECT. I LOVE THEM.
im also madly in love with the girl from the sea its one of my favorite books ever so those doodles u did based of it make me EXPLODE WITH GLEE OH MY GOODNESS
i also feel like u understand paintbrush so well. oh my god. ur interpretation is perfect god bless you
I JUST AUUUUGH SHAKES U AROUND LIKE A RATTLE U SEEM SO FUCKING COOL IM GONNA COMBIST /POSPOSPOSPOS
Oh gosh, thank you so much!
I'm really glad u like the way I draw painty <3
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The girl from the sea is like my favorite book at the moment too
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martynsimp69 · 2 years ago
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HEY! as the second round of the mcytblr sexyman bracket settles in i wanted to take the time to thank everyone that turned out for #saintsweep in the first round. genuinely don’t know how any of this happened, but i was rly touched by the outpouring of support and positivity and enthusiasm from everyone who was willing to commit to the bit. (33%!!! 33!!!! A WHOLE THIRD!!!! 2206 PEOPLE!!!) 
i wanna thank specifically zloy and the bracket team for being good sports about the whole thing -- the nomination started as a joke, but it was from a place of genuine excitement and goodwill, and i’m glad we all got to have fun with it. sorry for not actually fitting the “yt” part of the mcyt sexyman tournament LOL. 
but, speaking of. i’d joked about making a minecraft video if i won when i first saw the nominations, but after everything that happened here in round one i’m probably gonna do it even tho i lost. i feel like i owe it to everyone who turned out and got really invested and also really confused about who this gay little tv was and why they couldn’t find him anywhere (SORRY ABOUT THAT). 
SO!!! one of the things i wanted to do with the potential video was possibly a bit of a q&a; about me/saint, darkwoods smp, the bracket, lore, builds, whatever, idk!! but i figured, y’know, if anyone has questions they wanna ask feel free to send em my way, either in replies to this post or just straight in my askbox, anon or otherwise. 
anyways!! thank you all again for everything -- i appreciate being allowed to take this whole thing and run with it as much as i have. it was surreal and hilarious and overwhelming and i am going to be riding the high for weeks. the bragging rights i got from this are insane. im putting official mcytblr sexyman nominee on my resume. godbless. 
here is a little saint i doodled at work today while i watched the percentages on the poll tick up. love u guys forever 📺
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clowns0up-felix · 28 days ago
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HIIIIIIII i just wanna say that i really really love ur art!! and i'm eating up little details you put! your artstyle reminds me of pancakes 🥞 when made, it's soft and warm to eat on a nice and early morning!! AND AND.. SUMMER, a feeling of freshness and bright blue skies. since your art is pretty round i guess i could say i can feel the sense of peace washing over me . it really brought me back to these days. (⁠人⁠ ⁠•͈⁠ᴗ⁠•͈⁠)
how you you draw them interacting makes me feel happy and i don't really know why but it might be the sense of comfort it's invoking 💙 they're so genuinely expressive and i can be pretty emotional, it puts me in a cheery mood. that's how it's supposed to feel for me personally, and very honestly i also like how u design links, i've been thinking about four swords link post i saw while scrolling on my tumblr so i doodled him. it so happens to have my favorite colors combined so this is kind of a coincidence... hehe. the other links are cool too so maybe i will draw them someday after exam and when my christmas break comes! i'm barely used to this dumb tablet that keeps bullying me typing so keyboard is kinda annoying >:-(
you inspired me to keep drawing even though i don't post my work on social medias soo i just lurk around, and seeing other people's arts everywhere had me thinking of making my own little au :-3 and seeing your posts on my feed — i was pretty interested so i followed you out of curiosity, seeing your content makes me really wanna squish them (NOT TOO HARD i'm gentle U.U) waaa they look precious 😭 i think i've been binging your ramblings for aaa.. little while now haha this shouldn't be too long so i will end it here with a drawing. ╮⁠(⁠╯⁠_⁠╰⁠)⁠╭
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OHHHHHH MYY GOOOODDDDDDD
Im genuinely so obsessed with how you described my art,, like PANCAKES? AND SUMMER?? LOVE ,,, oooooohhh that makes me so happy
Im glad my art can bring u comfort and I LOVE the doodle of Sunny hellooo??? WAHHHH TYSM they look so cuteeeeeeeeee !!! 🫶🫶🫶 if u ever draw any other of my design send em over !!! (But don’t feel pressured to draw anything ever ^_^)
Hopefully my art will be able to continue to bring you (and everyone else who feels this way) joy and inspiration YIPEEEEE !!!! 🧡🧡
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moriohpissky · 2 months ago
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first of all i love love LOVE your soulmaka art. you and cherry are the two pillars of the soul eater fandom in my head we would be lost without u two. second of all i would be HONORED for some hurt/comfort soulmaka from ur talented hands 🙌 (also the fact that ur a jjba enjoyer as well is so chef’s kiss im just obsessed with u)
waaaaahhh this is so sweet??? Thank you so much!!! I’m so glad that I’ve met not only Cherry who is just a wonderful friend and collaborator but I’ve met so many fun and cool people in this fanbase!! I got into SoMa in around 2012? 2013? but back then I was far too shy to post any of my works, i would just lurk like crazy on AO3 and tumblr. Really glad that, even tho it’s a decade later, I returned to the fandom and it’s been a blast.
here are two little comforting doodles I sketched a few weeks ago using some fun new scrapbook textures but never remembered to post!!
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Ps I always love talking about Jojo my inbox is open!!! 💖💖💖 thank you lovely!
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myewt · 10 months ago
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if you’re still taking questions, do you have any ocs you’d like to talk about?
HELLO !!!!!!!! im glad u had a nice bday !! im gonna doodle u an olya/sanya when i can :> as my gift youll just have to wait a little
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BUT here's some ocs i've been thinking a lot recently The first one is called Luciel, he dyed his hair pink bc of his younger sister and now people give him strange looks on the street lol. He's also a programmer and an artist, he likes to paint landscapes with guaxi paint and watercolors.
the second one is called Simon, and maybe he's the OC that I love the most. He worked for a few years as a model even though he hated it with passion, eventually he realized that he prefers to be behind the cameras than in front of them. So now he is working freelance as a photographer and part time at a flower shop, and hes been living for it
---- Theyre roommates (literally) and have been sharing a college dorm since the frist day, ive even doodled it. Their relationship was really rocky at first, bc neither of them got along well, but eventually they learned to get along with each other more and are now very close :>
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