#also aradia and terezi flushed and aradia and tavros pale
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dualdeliverence · 9 months ago
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Ships of all time (to me) ((these are all happening at the same time for maximum enjoyment))
Karkat ♧ Sollux ♧ Terezi (somewhere directly between pale & pitch, qnd keeping terezi and karkat from making poor life choices)
Karkat ◇ Gamzee (im a simpleton)
Karkat ♡ Dave (im a simpleton x2 combo)
Karkat ♤ Tavros (in my mind it works esp in situations where they both get hero worshiped as descendants of rebellion leaders)
+ Tavros ♡ Gamzee, Dave ♤ Gamzee**, and more
** they are the most pitch lite physically possible. Neither of them actually need or want a whole full fledged kismesitude, to me
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hsoppositezodiac · 10 months ago
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More info about the trolls (part 3)
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Aradia Megido | Tealblood - Derse - Seer of Time
An enthusiast of the law; After her death, she convinced all of her friends to start a trial and decide the fate of her murderer. His Honorable Tyranny's fangirl. She also seems to enjoy playing the harmonica.
Fetch Modus: Backpack | Planet: Land of Policy and Clockwork | Strife Specibus, screen name & quirk stays the same
Matesprit: Terezi Pyrope | Auspitice of: Feferi Peixes & Nepeta Leijon | Moirail: Sollux Captor
Godtier? Yes
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Tavros Nitram | Ceruleanblood - Prospit - Thief of Breath
A blueblood who, despite appearance, is very chill. He, however, doesn't take kindly to those who mistreat lusii or animals in general. Despite being confident, he still likes playing "games for girls" and watching shows for wrigglers, he hides this fact from everybody except Gamzee.
Fetch Modus: Wings | Planet: Land of Birds and Zephyr | Quirk: is the same, except he also replaces 'i' with '1' (like Rufioh) | Strife Specibus and screen name is the same
Flush-crush: Gamzee Makara
Godtier? Yes
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Sollux Captor | Indigoblood - Dual Dreamer - Heir of Doom
Your average gamer. If he gets pissed (happens often), he tends to destroy the first thing he sees. An amateur programmer who mostly codes for websites. He holds an interest for card games too.
Fetch Modus: Computer | Planet: Land of Rays and Disease | Strife Specibus: Mousekind | Quirk: now types three 'iii's; replaces 's' with 'sh' instead of 2s. | Screen name is the same
Moirail: Aradia Megido | Is aware of Eridan's pale-black crush, but doesn't reciprocate it
Godtier? No
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shipstucks · 2 years ago
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Hello hi !! Im ikna :D you might know me for my main blog iknaenmal
I have seen many many blogs like these so i thought it could be fun to make one too !! Its basically a blog where you can request any rarepairs or sexuality headcanons or all that stuff ! Non rarepair ships are also allowed :] I promise i will try to um. ACTUALLY set a consistent queue of one drawing a day or something. Maybe. I hope
But yeah !! Anything is allowed except. You know. Clearly problematic ships :/ have fun !!
INBOX:
-transfem tavros <3 transneu equius
-dologlare
-vriskat, both transfem
-pornea
-junejasprosemary
-transmasc vriska <> june
-transmasc nepeta <3 transfem dirk
-damara <> dirk
-dyke it/its haudenosaunee dave and calliope
-transmasc nonbinary lesbian tavros <> pansexual transfem nonbinary aradia
-janedave w plus sized jane
-transfem t4t erikar
-transmasc t4t equikat
-rufioh x aranea
-t4t transmasc fefeta <3 karkat
-joeymet
-pale davejade with nb jade
-transmasc nepeta <3 transfem agender sollux
-pale scourge sisters
-humanstuck junenep
-john<3dirk<>terezi
-pale davegamtav
-flushed soljane
-janecallie
-eridan<>rose<>june
-dirkuu
-pale solkat
-pitch araroxy
-pale vrisdirk
-pitch soldirk
-kankri <3 mituna
-karkat <3< feferi
-junedavenepkat
-jaderoxy
-davenep
-davesprite x jake
-vrisrose
-arasol
-mitula
-pitch erifef
-WV and AR
-gamkar
-davenep but dave is a girl and nepeta is a guy
-vrisnep
-dirkkri
-transmasc jane and transfem kanaya
-juneroxy
-equisol with bigender sollux and nonbinary equius
-pale rosekat
-joey <3 xefros
-signless <3 disciple
-pitch johnrezi
-flushed vrisjohn
-davekarezi
-pale jade and kanaya
-pale erivris
-tavfef
-dirkrezi
-short nonbinary/catgender nepeta with tall transfem roxy
-cronkri
-transfem eridan/roxy
-pale erikat
-dirkkri
QUEUE:
-erikar
-t4t transfem junevris
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hskinhome · 11 months ago
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Hii, dropping my tq for this one boys(gn)
Hi im an Eridan Pyrope fictive, and im makin a canon call for myself >:]
The swaps for my tl are:
Humans -
Jade Egbert
Rose Strider
Dave Lalonde
John Harley
Trolls-
Kanaya Vantas
Gamzee Megido
Vriska Nitram
Equius Captor
Feferi Lejion
Karkat Maryam
Eridan Pyrope (me)
Tavros Serket
Sollux Zahhak
Aradia Makara
Terezi Ampora
Nepeta Peixes
I honestly would love to just find someone (kin or fictive idm either) with the same swaps but i also have detailss!!
Me and Tav were pitch/flush, and i think i was in a poly pale relationship w fef and sol (i think sol and i sometimes switched pitch too tho)
Me and John were rlly close even though i almost killed his sis and i think we almost started a flush relationship (i dont remember if we did or not, i think we might have?)
I remember being rlly close friends with kanaya and rose, who i think were flush too
Dave and kark definitely were flush lmao, think they got married
We were all from a tl where we finished the game and got to earth c and stuff too!
And i was blind </3 tav blinded me which sucked but i delt
My lusus was a sea serpent
And i think thats all for now before i ramble more lol, im gonna reach out to anyone who interacts with this because i dont want to put my @ here!! Alr byeee!!
“Hey! Its that eridan pyrope from before who sent in a canon call, i think forgot to mention im a minor bodily (i dont know if i did)”
Interact if this sounds familiar!
-Mod Nepeta
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hazardtoons-interaction · 2 years ago
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ykno what. i rlly wanna answer these but i dont really have many ppl who are actively following me. so i will just answer all 100 homestuck questions
When did you first get into Homestuck? in grade 7. i was about 13.
How quickly did you finish reading the comic? a few months maybe!
How many times have you read HS? ive read HS proper twice, and the epilogues too many to count.
Ever made your own chumhandle? many times... i think my first one was gentlemanlyTerror. my one now would probably be hazardouslyToony or something
Ever made a trollsona? dozens!!
Ever made a kidsona? yeah a couple
Ever cosplayed a HS character? yes!!! my first one was terezi (it was SOOO bad. i literally mixed white face paint with eyeshadow, taped red see-though paper onto my old glasses, and made horns out of paper), then my second one was horuss, that i spent a lot of effort on, and then last year i went to a con as jake :3
Ever bought HS merch? yeah i have lots!! i have a lot of merch you cant get anymore. posters and stuff. i also have the jake shirt and the vodka mutuni plush. and i also have charms.
Ever made an MSPFA? i attempted to. only got a few pages in though...
Ever drank Faygo? they dont sell it in my country
Favorite Alpha kid? jane, surprisingly. jake is just the character who is Me.
Favorite Alpha troll? aranea by fucking far.
Favorite Alpha character overall? calliope!!!!!!!! CALLIOPEEE!!!!
Least favorite Alpha kid? dick rider
Least favorite Alpha troll? i hate most of them but the racial stereotype ones i guess would be the worst
Least favorite Alpha character overall? i honestly dont even know
Favorite Beta kid? ROSEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Favorite Beta troll? terezi and vriska!!
Favorite Beta character overall? ummm allof the ones i just mentioned
Least favorite Beta kid? i like all of them. but i guess i spend the least amount of time thinking about dave so him
Least favorite Beta troll? GAMZEE. GAMZEE.
Least favorite Beta character overall? gamzee.
Favorite guardian? ..................bro strider
Least favorite guardian? um? alpha john i guess idk
Favorite Alternian ancestor? mindfang MIND. FANG. !!! theres something so wrong with her <3
Least favorite Alternian ancestor? whatever the fuck the sollux one is idgaf about him
Favorite carapacian? aimless renegade he holds suuuch a special place in my heart
Least favorite carapacian? Ms. Paint
Favorite Friendsim character? tyzias <3 <3 She is sooo . so hot. so arelynera and elwurd. also dammek! i love dammek
Least favorite Friendsim character? tirona i want her dead
Favorite sprite? gcattavrossprite and jasprosesprite
Least favorite sprite? umm the aradia frog one
Favorite pale ship? i like pale davekat. okay? i get it. i know. stfu
Favorite pitch ship? janerezi LMAO
Favorite flushed ship? JUNEREZI!!! JUNEREZZIIIIIIII!!!!! also callijane or calliroxy. i dont really like cotton candy im sory. i also like rosemary a lot
Favorite ashen ship? karkat c3< vriska and kanaya but in a really fucked up way
Favorite vacillating ship? .vriskan
OTP? junerezi :3
NOTP? absolutely dirkjake i hate dirkjake
BROTP? tavros and jake!!
Character you’d choose to be your moirail? if im allowed to choose hiveswap characters, bronya. if not, porrim.
Character you’d choose to be your kismesis? aranea ooough...
Character you’d choose to be your matesprit? i dont want to date ANY OF(tyzias.)
Character you’d choose to be your auspistice? ALL OF THEM ARE TERRIBLE AT IT
Character you’d vacillate quadrants with? jane crocker. get over here kiss me on my mouth
Character you’d be best friends with? jade.pls :3
Patron troll? Are you happy with them? tavros 😭also YES I AM! hed be annoying as heck though.
Zodiac troll? Are you happy with them? karkat.NOT HAPPY.. though i like to pretend im a libra so terezi.
One character you didn’t like at first, but like now? i didnt really like rose i thought she was boring but now shes like my fav ever
One character you liked at first, but don’t like now? dirk......... i used to jokingly hate him but now i seriously dont like him!!!!!
One ship you didn’t like at first, but like now? i used to be Meh on vriskan. i like it a lot now (in a studying u under a microscope not an i think its healthy way)
One ship you liked at first, but don’t like now? confession guys i used to be a dirkjaker
Alpha kids or Beta kids? i have to pick alpha kids since i think about them constantly but i like the beta kids more universally.
Alpha trolls or Beta trolls? BETA who tf chooses ALPHA trolls
Beforus or Alternia? alternia? we barely even see beforus
Derse or Prospit? #pissmoongang
The Felt or The Midnight Crew? the midnight crew absolutely
Grimdark or Crocker Tier? crocker tier i love the concept of it
Red team or blue team? red team i barely care ab anyone on blue (apart from neppers)
Meat or candy? i love both!!! meat and candy epilogues are both good in their own ways.
Trolls, humans, carapaces, or cherubs? cherubs
Have you played Hiveswap? Do you like it? I LOVE HIVESWAP!!!! its so fun!!!
Have you played Friendsim? Do you like it? i played a few of the routes. its alright
Have you played Pesterquest? Do you like it? i played it as it was coming out. its on my steam! i hate it.
Have you read the Epilogues? Do you like them? 😁😁😁you must be new here (I LOVE THEM i have a physical copy)
Have you read HS2? Do you like it? i hated it
Have you read SBAHJ? Do you like it? i have read every single one.its okay!
Classpect you identify with currently? page of hope :p
Classpects you’ve identified with before? - seer of light - seer of hope
Do you like your God Tier outfit? HELP MEEEE yeah its. it sure is an outfit
Do you like bloodswaps? Do you have a favorite? its whatever
Do you like kidswaps? Do you have a favorite? as someone who likes underswap, its odd to me how much i hate kidswaps? like its a huge pet peeve of mine in hs fandom
Do you like speciesswaps? Do you have a favorite? Mehh.
Do you use quadrants IRL? i used to! i dont anymore lol
Do you like celebrating 4/13? yeah!!! definitely
Do you use Pesterchum, MxRP, CheRP, or other HSRP platforms i DO have pesterchum yeah
Favorite Homestuck act? act6
Favorite Homestuck moment? tricky one but one has to be the johnrezi scene in the meat epilogues where (SPOILERS) john dies Favorite Homestuck panel? this one is pretty great
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Favorite Homestuck flash? iiiim a member of the mid nigh t creww
Favorite Homestuck soundtrack? beyond canon. its fucking beautiful
Favorite Broadway Homestuck song? fucking. um. look its karkalicious okay what more could you want. i picked the obvious one etc etc
Favorite Homestuck fansong? okay this isnt really a fansong but everyone please listen to The Leaving from beyond canon its beautiful
Favorite Homestuck fics? house of dirk hands down!!!! its so funny and awesome i want it to update so bad. apart from that, godfeels.
Favorite Homestuck fanartists? meeee:3/j . no jk my fav artist who does hs fanart is @hal9000fanboy . i also LOVE @deathbycatgirl 's homestuck art, its all so unique and the characters are drawn in such a cool scrungey way im wrapping them into a ball
Favorite Homestuck AU? Demonstuck, Kingdomstuck, etc.? i havent heard those names in so long hearing "kingdomstuck" was like a shot to the heart. amino group chats
Favorite hemocaste? teal! and indigo and jade
Favorite typing quirk? i love kuprams from hiveswaps bc its 4chan greentyping
Favorite MSPFA? deadbert bc my friend made it idfk
What would your strife specibus be? scarfkind mb
What would your lusus be? sparkledog
What caste do you feel you’d belong to, regardless of your zodiac? teal
What characters do you relate most to? JAKE ENGLISH~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One unpopular HS opinion you have? dirkjake is abusive and dirk is a bad person and also cis. and gamzee isnt redeemable
One popular HS opinion you agree with? jane is Fucking gay!
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overtrolled · 3 years ago
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Vriska for the ask game
Oh, okay, Vriska. Let's see.
My NOTP for them: flushed Vristav. I specify Flushed because I have seen some interesting takes on pale vristav and pitch vristav, both of which have Tavros developing a lot more personal agency as a prerequisite, to the point where they can meet again as equals. but i've literally never seen a flushed vristav take that felt right. My BROTP for them: This is going to be unpopular but i'm usually pretty uninterested in vrisrezi as a romantic pairing. Like their fates are intertwined and they are a major formative part of each other's lives, but by the same token their relationship feels too fraught to lead to the sort of relationship most fanworks want to put them in. by the same token, I really like their dynamic, and when a writer or artist is less concerned with making them have a healthy romance they tend to be really fun together. My OTP for them: I don't really have an otp for Vriska, but one of my favorite pairings for her is vrisjohn or vrisjune, either <3 or <>, really. When I reread Homestuck last year I really started to appreciate how quickly John/June made Vriska's walls come down, how much vriska came to feel like she could talk to him/her without guarding her heart, which always goes wrong for her anyway. My second choice pairing for them: I like pitch RoseVris quite a bit. They both need to be right and they both need people to know it, and they both get pretty scary when mad, so i think that a rivalry between them could be absolutely amazing My fluffy pairing for them: I don't know that I have a fluffy pairing for Vriska. I guess the closest is maybe Vriskat or Vriskan? even those are sort of tied up in some of her messy history and has space for angst and sorrow. My angsty pairing for them: a while ago, months and months ago now, i saw fanart of Aradia comforting (Vriska) and it really stuck with me. I can't help but imagine what an Ara(vris) relationship would be like. Full of sadness and angst, probably. Failing this, I think either Vriskat or Vriskan could fill the role of angst ship, depending on how it's done. My favorite poly ship for them: I like johnvrisrezi/junevrisrezi a lot. they each have their own unique dynamic with each other and the way that they play off each other can be really good. it also often counters the aforementioned issue wherein fanworks try to shove Vriska and Terezi's messy and complicated relationship into a 'normal lesbian couple' box which i dislike. when John/June is there, fancreators tend to allow them to have issues, if only to give JE something to do. My weirdest pairing for them: I got converted to shipping Davevris by the posting of one @davestriderpostscratch, who correctly laid out that Dave and Vriska are similar in a lot of ways, and that despite their contrasting personalities they have similar vulnerabilities and could appreciate each other's needs.
Thanks for the ask
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areseniccatnap · 3 years ago
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my quadrants as irl nepeta!
:33 < this will just be mew sharing what quadrants i was in with who furom my mems!!
flushed (matesprits) - feferi, terezi, aradia
pale (meowrails) - equihiss, karkitty, rose
pitch (kismeowsis) - vriskers
ashen (auspistic) - gamz33 and equihiss, vriskers and aradia
:33 < i was also vv good furriends with dave, tavros, and jade! <3
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gyroshrike · 3 years ago
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for send me a character and i'll tell you meme: hmmmmmmmmm -eyes recent reblogs of a certain bronze troll-....terezi! -runs away trollishly laughing-
For the “Send me a character and I’ll tell you…” ask game
Tavros
JOKES ON YOU. SOMEONE ALREADY SENT TEREZI, SO I GUESS YOU’RE STUCK WITH THE BRONZE TROLL. WE DOIN’ TAV, BABEYYYY
My NOTP for them - Flushed Tavrisk! Flushed Tavrisk! FLUSHED TAVRISK! I have honestly never had an stronger notp than this one right here (not including ships that squick me out of course). You know it’s this singular ship that’s keeping me from reading The Serendipity Gospels? I want to read it SO BAD! BUT I CANNOT GET MYSELF TO DO IT. I CANNOT.
My BROTP for them - This might go Nepeta and Tavros. I LOVE those two. They didn’t talk much, but Nepeta was very nice to Tavros and I don’t think that was an off shoot thing. (A pattern I have noticed on how I judge characters a lot is How Nice They Were to Tavros.)
I’m always a huge sucker for characters who love animals and THEY BOTH LOVE ANIMALS. They’re two big sweetie hearts that love animals and playing games and silly artsy-fartsy stuff. Tavros would probably think the fact that Nepeta draws is super cool. They would never make each other feel embarrassed or criticized for any of their interests or idiosyncrasies.
Tavros roleplays with her, even if he’s awkward at it, without any comments or other jabs about it. He expresses genuine disappointment when she can’t be on the red team with him, but he’s also kind and understanding about it.
My OTP for them - Looks up from where I'm buried under a pile of pbj sandwiches. Don't mess with me, flushed Gamzee♥️Tavros is my Homestuck otp of otps.
My second choice pairing for them - Hmm, this might be pitch Equius♠️Tavros, but I'm going to save that one for another answer. So, this one will probably go to DaveTav. I enjoy both pitch and pale, but I think I like pale Dave♦️Tavros better. The idea of Tavros and Dave each thinking the other is the Coolest person, while simultaneously trying to play off that they're cool, is just an absolute favorite of mine.
Imagine if Dave secretly loves and admires that Tavros is wholeheartedly passionate about things, even 'nerdy' or 'cringey' things by Dave’s definition. He is sometimes a little envious that Tavros can just just... not care about irony or pretending something that is cool is uncool because it being uncool makes it cool yadda yadda. He feels like Tavros is so genuine (it’s kind of the same reason why he’s drawn to John).
Then Tavros canonly went on about just how ridiculously cool he thinks Dave is. And I feel like we never get to see Tavros get that hyped up about another person? Aradia said he’d wanted to meet Dave so bad. It’s just insanely cute how much Tavros values Dave, even though all he silly trolling they’ve done to each other, Tavros adores hanging out with Dave? And they really enjoy rapping to together? It’s cute as fuck, man.
Then the two of them both realizing the other has low self-esteem? But I feel like their doubts they have in themselves are different enough that they won’t feed into each other. Dave would have the bravado Tavros needs to shrug off hurtful comments and Tavros is soft and genuine in an unironic way that he would give the kind of reassurance that Dave really thrive under.
Moirails really help each other grow and it’s interesting watching how Tavros wants to rise up and meet Dave’s challenge. He doesn’t seem hurt or scared by the words or teasing Dave does. Flustered and nervous in the moment for sure! But it Tavros goes out of his way to prepare for his conversations with Dave. He’s dedicated to figuring out how to best interact with him (even if most of his motivations are to troll.) But Tavros reaches out to both Rose and Aradia to try and facilitate interactions with Dave.
Dave makes Tavros want to show off his ability as a peer, not as a hero or savior like he wanted to do for Jade.
All this is kind of why I think they’d be great in most quadrants, flushed, pitch, or pale.
My fluffy pairing for them - Not exactly a pairing, but I love how Kanaya seemed to be someone who really stood up for and looked out for Tavros, even so much to harass Vriska, her crush, into being nice to him. Kanaya was the one who told Tavros to name his self-confidence and to not hurt "his" feelings. ;0; I'm really into humanstuck AU's where the Maryam family is really close to the Nitram family. Pesterquest also solidified this with the role Kanaya played in Tavros' route. In my AU, Kanaya's family reached out and helped Tavros' family financially after Tavros' accident.
My angsty pairing for them - Angsty pairing? Oh, hmmmm... I suppose post canon things (no epilogues or hs2) with Gamzee and Gctavrosprite tend to make me very sad. :( Definitely a very angsty iteration of the ship. It has to be done very particularly for me to like it. I also suppose anything that includes Gamzee meeting either dead Tavros or any other timeline Tavros in bubble fucks me uuuuup. Can you imagine Gamzee meeting a Tavros from a timeline where he and Tavros had been matesprits?
Oh! There's also that fan theory that the horrorterrors are eons old, long mutated Gamzee's, and I make myself sad over the idea of a horrorterror meeting Tavros who doesn't really have any memories of being a troll left, but knows instinctively upon seeing Tavros that Tavros was something important. And it's just this massive monster entity that Tavros can hear the dark whispers of like "whoareyouwhowareyouwhoareyou don'tremembercan'tremember buthappyhappytoseeyouseeyouseeyouseeyou"
Now for the last two questions, I'm going to rearrange them because my weirdest ship for them kind of feeds into my favorite polyship for them.
My weirdest pairing for them - I suppose EquiTav isn't THAT weird of a ship, but it felt weird to me for a long while because I just couldn't wrap my head around the possibly of it. But recently, I've really sat down and thought about it. It started with the idea of pitch Gamzee♠️Equius. And I love that ship, but sometimes I get all sad over thinking about Gamzee hating, being annoyed with, or being mean back to Equius.
Then I realized... actually, I could see Tavros getting really annoyed with Equius and the things he does and says. Equius has a bigoted view of the hemospectrum, so check, that's going to be obnoxious. And Tavros does in most cases try to stand up for himself when he's being pushed around (Vriska just doesn't listen and is better at shutting him down.) But I think Equius would be a bit quicker to back down when challenged in a way that would put him and Tavros on a bit more equal footing. (We already know that Equius likes being order around by lowbloods because of the social inappropriateness of it. Also, Equius is stubborn, but he's not... a bully. He's also not violent or dangerous to other trolls that we see.
And something about pitch rivalry is the push to make the other reach their potential. Equius is pretty caught up in bloodcolor, but he also has a few moments where it implies that it's much more of a taught belief than one he genuinely wants to keep feeling. He tells Vriska "EQUIUS: D --> I would very much like to honor my position on the hemospectrum and mistreat those beneath me, and yet..." And we all know he would DIE for Nepeta. So that can be part of his growth with Tavros! Having multiple low quadrants challenges his stances and beliefs. Tavros is also really nice. I feel like having a rivalry with someone so nice (as well as a moiraillegience) could challenge him to perhaps see how to be nicer.
And Tavros would have someone frustrating and stubborn to work on his self-confidence with who doesn't actually put his emotional or physical well-being at risk when he stands up to them. (Well, not intentionally, Equius is very STRONG after all.)
Tavros and Equius have this very interesting specific angle for me of either becoming unintentionally closer because Equius had to learn intimate things about Tavros' body to make him a new pelvis and new legs. They end up spending extended amounts of time together to help Tavros adjust to his robo-legs, be that asking questions, helping him stretch, fixing things that aren't right, adding new features. (There's no way Equius wouldn't give Tavros a nook and bulge, sorry, not with his dedication to quality and also being as lewd as he is LOL.)
Also they'd bond over animals! Tavros having a bunch of horses come and say hello to Equius? Or any other small cute animals? Equius would be so thrilled and happy! Ahhhhhhh
My humanstuck AU, Reunionstuck, has Tavros acting as Equius' dom for a while, as a friends with benefits kind of thing. They end up bonding over bringing their career fields together, Tavros' veterinary focus being disabled animals and Equius' focus being engineering and prosthetics. They work together on professional projects find that they have a very good working relationship, even if Equius is frustrating as heck to work with sometimes.
My favorite poly ship for them - Probably some mixture of Gamzee/Tavros/Equius with some potential mixture of flushed and pitch.
Pasting from my Gamzee ask: Oooh, ho ho ho, love me some Gam♥️Equius♥️/♠️Tavros. Gamzee adores Equius so much tbh. Gamzee was just a huge sweetheart to Equius pre-game and just loved talking to him. Equius seemed pretty pitch towards him, but I think I like the idea of Equius letting himself be loved and recieve soft red affection from Gamzee is so cute.
In my AU, Gamzee and Tavros end up in a romantic relationship, but Equius maintains a close relationship with the two of them. Equius was very attracted to Gamzee back in high school and of course Equius and Tavros now have their shared experiences together. So now Equius joins them in the bedroom every once in a while and the three of them are very affectionate towards each other.
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skeletorific · 5 years ago
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(Sorry if it’s already been asked)what’s your interpretation/view of the quadrants? What in your mind makes an healthy and unhealthy quadrantship?
*distant drumbeat* I’ve been WAITING for this one! Turn it up!!!!
So, a few general notes about quadrants before getting into a breakdown. First, I don’t think there’s a hard and fast definition of what makes, say, a healthy kismessitude, any more than there’s a hard and fast definition of a healthy human relationship. What would be toxic and terrible for one couple may be exactly what keeps a different relationship together. Meowrails is very different from pale Vrisrezi, because Equius and Nepeta are different people with different wants and needs in a relationship than Vriska and Terezi. As with all bonds, it’s important to look at a broader trend of behavior and the individual mental health levels before you can say “this is unhealthy”. I DO think there are certain things to watch out for, but ultimately I probably have ships in that quadrant that may violate one or more of those “no-nos” just because of how those characters bounce off each other. 
Second, I think there’s more fluidity in quadrants than the fandom typically allows for, because human relationships are also by their nature fluid. We’ve all seen a set of best friends who act like a couple even if they aren’t romantically interested, and we’ve seen couples who bicker and squabble despite being deeply in love. How you choose to identify your relationship is ultimately nobody’s business but your own, even if red love for you looks like pale love to someone else. Alternian troll culture is romance obsessed and this can lend itself to an obsession with defining the attraction, but this doesn’t mean that’s necessarily how it HAS to be.
Finally, I’ll be listing ALL confirmed canon examples of each quadrant to provide a context for what I’m referencing. This should not be taken as necessary endorsement for any of these ships, or even that I think they were a “good example”, simply that how they chose to identify influenced my own definition of these quadrants. I will also be leaving out a lot of ships that would seem to fit a particular quadrant (noteably Rosemary and Arasol) because their own status is complicated in-text (Rose explicitly refers to wanting to be in all of Kanaya’s quadrants and their relationship has tended explicitly pitch at points, Sollux is referred to as Aradia’s “boyfriend” and yet there is apparently no issue between either of them when his flush quadrant becomes occupied)
With that, let’s dig in
Matespritship:
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Successful/Actually Date(d) Examples: Dad/Mom, Latula/Mituna, Meulin/Kurloz, Aranea/Porrim, Mindfang/Summoner, Meenah/Vriska, Sollux/Feferi, Konyyl/Azdaja (currently vacillating), Stelsa/Tyzias
Crushes (unrequited, vacillating, or thwarted): Eridan/Feferi, Kanaya/Vriska, Nepeta/Karkat, Equius/Aradia, Tavros/Jade, Gamzee/Tavros, Sollux/Gamzee, Jack/PM, Lynera/Bronya
What it means to me: Matespritship tends to be an opt-out quadrant for a lot of people, I think. Most seem to stop reading at “closely analogous to human conceptions of romance” and turn off their brains. However, as with all things troll culture, I think there’s more to it the deeper you go, especially considering the fact that your moirail is expected to do a LOT of what we would consider standard s/o stuff: caretaking, comfort, intimate knowledge, closeness. I absolutely refuse to buy that the only thing distinguishing the two is that matesprits have sex, especially since that stumble into some VERY UNCOMFORTABLE territory in regards to troll asexuality. So then, if it’s not that, then what is it?
Ultimately I keep coming back to the idea of passion. Your matesprit I think is the person who you genuinely see in the best possible light. Unusual for Alternian society, you’re unable to ignore the depths of your admiration of them, or to let their flaws filter into your perception. Moiraillegiance is about total honesty and unflinching recognition, but matespritship to me is about that kind of fairy tale passion. Its a person who, even if you know on an intellectual level they are not perfect, that you genuinely have a harder time seeing the darker side of because you are so consumed by this passion for what you see in them, your unfiltered awe and appreciation for who they are. 
Additionally, I see matespritship as on some level inherently possessive. You not only admire that person, but you fundamentally crave their attention in a way that is probably a bit on the selfish side. Its not enough to want good for them, it has to be good alongside you. This is typically where it’s more prone to flipping caliginous. 
Warning signs: Matespritships seemed to vacillate pitch FREQUENTLY on Alternia. This is not necessarily a sign that something is wrong. As Karkat says, it’s often a matter of communication and timing. However, it does have the potential to explode in everyone’s face if not carefully managed, in no small part due to the passionate emotions involved. Some things that tend to go bad fast:
-Admiration is key to an effective matespritship, but pedestalling your flushed partner too much can be dangerous. Once the flaws do become apparent (as they will in any relationship) they can become increasingly hard to ignore, and that can be SHATTERING if you don’t prepare.
-Especially on Alternia, matesprits are the quadrant I see as most likely to neglect the communication aspect of their relationship. Safety isn’t a factor for them like it is for more caliginous quadrants, and the expectation is usually that feelings jams are for moirails. Especially for younger trolls, there’s an idea that we’re in love and thus should just know what the other person needs/wants. If you don’t pick up on it, then maybe we aren’t meant to be. This is a trap. ALL relationships need communication in order to function on a day to day basis. Opening up to your matesprit about something that’s bothering you isn’t a sign of fading passion, but of maturity and your own changing needs.
-Despite a fondness for fate pairings I think matespritships are usually expected to fade out, in no small part because they’re founded on a level of passion that can be hard to keep up long-term. This is actually fine. Not all relationships are meant to last eternally. However, if you know your matesprit is a person you want in your life long-term, part of that is learning how to cope with periods of low passion. Its normal to not always feel an all-consuming desire to keep your matesprit in arms reach. It’s normal to need space. What’s important is that YOU know that you still love them, and that they have the confidence to know that’s true even when you can’t always express it.
Moirallegiance
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Successful/Actually Date(d) Examples: Kanaya/Vriska, Eridan/Feferi, Gamzee/Karkat, Nepeta/Equius, Kurloz/Mituna, Meulin/Horuss, Terezi/Vriska, Kuprum/Folykl, MSPAR/Polypa, Xefros/Dammek
Crushes (unrequited, vacillating, or thwarted): Eridan/Karkat, MSPAR/Chixie, MSPAR/Stelsa, Tegiri/Polypa
What it means to me: To start out with, I haaaaaaaate hate hate the perception that moirails are just BFFs. To me, there’s too much evidence to suggest otherwise, not the least of which being that after Feferi ends their moirallegiance she tells Eridan she still wants to be friends with him. How many of you break up with your best friend and then tell them you can still be friends after?
To me, moirallegiance on Alternia is as much a coping mechanism at it is a romantic entanglement. In a society where there’s no such thing as therapy, your moirail ideally functions as a release valve for you, to help you exercise softer feelings in a safe, sanctioned environment. Two things are key in that dynamic: honesty, and selflessness.
There’s no pretense in a moirallegiance, but an unflinching embrace. The successful moirails we’ve seen (Meowrails, KupFol, arguably GamKar) have always been rooted in banter that may come off as pitch at first glance. This is partly due to general Alternian socialization practice, but I think it also stems from the fact that pale love is founded in knowing every inch of your partner. You know what they are, body and soul, the flaws and the highlights, and while you do not uncritically accept it like a matesprit might, some part of you fundamentally identifies with. Your moirail is that person who you feel like you’ve known for years after talking for a few hours, because something about how they’re wired clicks with you in a way most don’t. As such, there’s less need for posturing. A feelings jam is one of the few places on Alternia where you are allowed to admit to vulnerability, to fear, to frustration, because you know that the other person will have your back unquestioningly without letting you get away with bullshit.
This mutual support stems from the other half of pale love: the desire to see the other person flourish, no matter what. If the matesprit wants you to be happy at their side, the moirail wants you to flourish even if they do not stand to benefit. You experience your moirail’s success like it was your own, and want as good for them or better than you want for yourself.
Some warning signs:
-Burnout. We see this in most clearly in Eridan and Feferi’s case (and a bit in Gamzee and Karkat’s case), but its a genuine risk in moirallegiance. The caretaking HAS to go both ways or the relationship is doomed to fail. More often than not, burnout indicates a failure within the relationship. Your moirail has not been caring for you to the degree you need, and quite possibly you have not been communicating HOW you would like that behavior to change. As I said, honesty is essential, and things ideally should never reach the point of burnout because you are in constant complete openness with your moirail about how you need taking care of.
-Fucked expectations. Romance is a dominating subject on Alternia, for obvious reasons, and one of the biggest hits a moirallegiance can take is a person questioning too far into pale desire until they mistake it for something else. The two are very close, but they are not exactly the same thing and often times the relationship can be sunk by one person getting in their head about that intimacy until they try to make it something it isn’t. Moiraillegiance is not a stepping stone for matesprit or kismesis, and most importantly it is not a consolation prize quadrant. You should never “settle” for moirail, or pale date someone who will accept you as a moirail only if they can’t get you as anything else. You need to want a moirail for a moirails sake, or its just a crush with extra levels of fuckery and expected free therapy.
Kismessitude
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Successful/Actually Date(d) Examples: Spades Slick/Sn0wman, Jack Noir/Black Queen, Eridan/Vriska (now broken up), Karkat/Karkat, Mindfang/Dualscar, Terezi/Gamzee, Tagora/Galekh, Bronya/Elwurd.
Crushes (unrequited, thwarted, vacillating): Eridan/Rose, Vriska/Tavros,  Karkat/John, Gamzee/Dave, Sollux/Gamzee, Eridan/Sollux, PM/Bec Noir, Terezi/Vriska, John/Terezi, Konyyl/Skylla, Daraya/Lynera
What it means to me:
I want to structure this as a dismantling of two very common misconceptions I see for this quadrant. One, kismesis is NOT the inherent abuse quadrant. This I believe is working with a faulty definition of what abuse is. Abuse is not simply being mean or engaging in a physical manner with somebody. As has become something of a mantra for this essay, its about expectations. Abuse requires someone to be taking advantage, exploiting a particular vulnerability (or creating it if none inherently exists). What makes a relationship abusive is a situation where someone you SHOULD be able to trust or care for uses those expectations to hurt you, either for personal gain or simply to make themselves feel better. A kismesis is not that, because a healthy kismesis goes in with the expectation of rivalry. For some kismeses, this looks like basic sniping, insults, and jabs. For others, it looks like actual fighting. In either case, its the difference between a boxing match and assault. As long as the rules are being respected, both parties are consented, and someone is checking in to ensure that no one is hurting themselves (sometimes your partner, sometimes your moirail, sometimes your auspitice), then there is nothing inherently wrong with having a circumstance in which you are allowed to work through some nastier feelings without fear of consequence or hurting someone who can’t take it.
The second misconception: kismesis is not just a relationship with some bitchier dialogue. As we’ve seen, being a little bit rude is not restricted to pitch feelings. We have many examples of it in relationships that would be considered unequivocally red or pale on Alternia (KupFol, MeenVris). I go back to the Karkat dialogue constantly. Your kismesis is not just a person you make fun of, but something closer to your true rival (in the shonen anime sense). Its a person who you see so much good (or potential for good in), but who is brought down by some kind of fatal flaw that just grates at you. And so, you fixate on the idea of pushing them out of that flaw, through whatever means necessary.
Its from this fatal flaw that I believe the benefits of kismesis come out. Your kismesis, like your matesprit, has intense passion for you, but doesn’t idealize you. In fact, at points your kismesis may be incredibly aware of the WORST possible version of you. What distinguishes it from platonic hate, though, is the fact that you at your worst doesn’t make them flinch. It makes them want to provoke you, to see how you can change. Kismeses sharpen each other, which is something that rarely feels good but is so often necessary. You should never let your kismesis sit back too far on their laurels, because it is your job to be consciously aware of their faults and call them out on it. 
Additionally, while the hatefucking aspect is often overestimated, I think its not surprising that passion in these kinds of relationships tend to get intense, which is part of why it so often requires some kind of ashen intervention. Once harnessed, though, that passion can be turned to powerful ends for both yourselves and the world around you. 
Some things to watch out for (unsurprisingly there’s a LOT for this one but I’ve distilled it into two broad ones because this thing will be long enough):
Power imbalance: As I said, kismesis is not inherently abusive. However, it DECIDEDLY has the potential to become so, in particular in a society like Alternia where the power strafes are often so significant. This is particularly the case in pitch relationships involving a highblood and a lowblood, especially when the highblood is “steering the ship”. Vriska/Tavros is a good example. If summarized, her feelings for Tavros pre-Sgrub are very straightforward and healthy pitch ones. She admires his potential and envies his kinder relationships while despising his indecisiveness. All fine enough groundwork. However, three factors collaborate to make it a hot disaster: Tavros’s disinterest in her (meaning the pitch advances are unwelcome and in some real sense nonconsensual), Vriska’s own lack of restraint (meaning she takes things too far even for a kismesis), and the inherent caste imbalance (meaning Tavros has no meaningful way of fighting back and nothing in Vriska’s rearing has taught her to care if a lowblood gets hurt by her actions). This isn’t to say a highblood-lowblood (or any humanly imbalanced relationship) can NEVER work, but it requires both parties to put the work in to even the playing field. The highblood needs to actively show restraint, both physically and situationally. This is also where an auspitice generally comes in handy, ensuring things never get to a point where the action becomes one-sided.
Misdirected Rage: As I said, kismessitude is a Space, much like moiraillegiance, that gives you the opportunity to work through some less-than-palatable emotions. Using a pitch date as a way to burn off stress is not inherently invalid; in fact, its often expected and as long as your partner is willing can be one of the better ways to cope with something without having to address it directly. However, this CANNOT be built into the foundation of the relationship. Your kismesis is not a punching bag, but their own person, and the focus always needs to eventually return to that. You cannot effectively sharpen someone else if your anger is never about them, and it is ultimately unfair to constantly ask someone else to consistently bear the brunt of your bad days. This is (debatably) where pitch Gamrezi went wrong. Ultimately that kismesis was never really about each other, but about both of them projecting their self-loathing onto the other person when they were both at incredibly low place, thus making their anger unproductive and meaningless for both of them. As such, any kind of empathy was impossible and they were not able to self-regulate. 
Auspiticism
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Succesful/Actually Date(d): Vriska/Kanaya/Tavros, Karkat/Jade/Karkat, Spades Slick/Doc Scratch/Sn0wman, Liv Tyler/Courtyard Droll/Wizardly Vassal, PM/Jade/Bec Noir, Kanaya/Vriska/Rose
Crushes (unrequited, thwarted, vacillating): Vriska/Kanaya/Eridan, Gamzee/Rose/Terezi (look I know this one is practically canon but Rose kind of implies she never really used those auspiticism lessons), Rose/Kanaya/Horrorterrors, Eridan/Feferi/Sollux, Gamzee/Kanaya/Karkat, Dave/Kanaya/Karkat, Konyyl/MSPA Reader/Azdaja.
What it means to me: Ahh the bastard child of quadrants. I’ve got a lot of unpopular opinions on auspiticism (most notably that Kanaya isn’t actually that good at it), but let’s start with defining some things. I believe there are two kinds of auspitices. 
One is the “breakup” auspitice. This is the version described in the infamous romance pages of Homestuck. This version is meant to prevent a black romance from breaking out where one shouldn’t occur, either because one or both parties already has a kismesis or because there is some other mitigating factor that means neither can afford to get bogged down in this crush. A breakup auspitice should ideally be a figure that both parties trust, even in the midst of heated feelings. They should also have the strength of will to continually interfere, and a clear enough head to cut to the root of the issue. Its a thankless task, often, but a very vital one, and most importantly, short-lived. This auspitice’s job only lasts as long as the feelings last. Once both parties have had the chance to cool down (or the circumstances creating the rivalry are at an end), their job is considered over.
The other kind is the version that we arguably see more of in canon, what I call the Third Leaf. This is less an intercessary party and more the third member of a particularly tempestuous kismesis, who will act to ensure the other two leaves don’t cause serious harm to themselves or each other. This relationship is far more long-term, and thus has more requirements. To me, your auspitice is someone who has pale potential with both you AND your kismesis. They know and care about you both on a very deep level, to the point that they are willing to put themselves in the middle of your bullshit very consistently. This means that you trust them enough to call it quits even in the heat of your anger, and you also believe what they tell you about your own pitch partner when their actions need greater contextualization to keep things on the level. This task is often equally challenging, but (hopefully) not as thankless or as pragmatic.
I’ve previously referred to the auspitice as a personified safeword, and I believe that’s very emblematic of the Third Leaf. Even healthy kismeses may reach a point where one needs a day off, or something hits in the wrong way. In a rivalry, though, admitting that isn’t necessarily easy, as its both breaking kayfabe and has the potential to read as more weakness that needs to be excised (”it hurts because its working”). The auspitice is privileged to go between and be believed every time. If your auspitice says its a no go then you better have a pretty damn good reason to ignore them. For some kismeses, overriding the auspitice is grounds to break up once and for all. 
Some warning signs:
Burnout: As is the case with the previously discussed concilliatory quadrant, caretaking can be exhausting. This is especially the case in auspiticism, where the care is often expected to be very one sided, and usually involves dealing with a lot of vitriol, anger, and even physical violence. Obviously its more prevalent in Third Leaf dynamics, but even breakup auspitices can reach a breaking point if they’re not careful. Its important as the ashenmate to understand your own limits. For better or for worse, the focus will not be on you. If you are reaching a low point, then you need to be vocal about this with your other two leaves, or disaster is almost inevitable. The trade-off for this is that (according to my headcanons at least), your ashenmates are expected to drop everything to care for you if you need it. The kismesis will not be safe to proceed until you are back in fighting shape, and as such a truce is declared until they have both done “aftercare” of a sort for you. What this looks like is different for every auspiticism. For some, its alone time. For others, its blanket burritos, movies, and forehead kisses. No matter what, though its IMPERATIVE that you find a method that works for you, because the relationship crumbles without self-care.
Doormatting: As I said, auspiticism is a concilliatory quadrant. As such, there can be a tendency to over-forgive or overwork, especially if your other two leaves have stronger personalities. In particular, ausptices who are closer with one leaf over the other need to be vigilant for favoritism or bowing down. It is your job to contextualize the actions of your ashenmates. It is not your job to do apologetics for them or atone for their actions. Hold them all accountable. They need to be putting in at least as much work as you do to make their relationship work and not just offset the emotional repair to you.
Controlling: The inverse of this is the power-tripping auspitice. This seems unlikely, but its more of a threat than one might think, in my view. Because of the trust auspitices command by virtue of their position and their relationship with the other two leaves, their word is in some sense law. This can be addictive to some people, and lead to an abuse of power that can be just as toxic as in any other quadrant. It can look like scolding your ashenmates far too much, placing yourself at the center of their issues, or even punishing them for annoying you when what they’re doing is perfectly acceptable within the context of a kismessitude. As I said, self-care is important for an auspitice, but selflessness needs to be at the core of concilliatory dynamics. You are here because you genuinely want good for the people you are mediating for. If the relationship has become all about you, then something has gone horribly wrong. Avoid the urge to power trip just because the role is sometimes a Lot. 
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cttrajan1206 · 4 years ago
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11, 17, 18, 25, 33, 37, 44, 46, 47, 55, 75, 76, 90, 94
TEA THATS SO FUCKING MANY FOR THE HOMESTUCK THING
11 : Favourite Alpha kid?
LISTEN DONT DO THIS TO ME. I??? Uhhhhhh god i. I really love the strilondes i know its basic but they're all so good and Dirk was done way too dirty. I dont have favourites skshsjf i like Jake the least but i love the rest so much. I guess?? If i had to choose?? Roxy.
17 : Favourite Beta kid?
Uhhhh same problem at Alphas TwT the Betas get a lot more development but either Rose or John.
12 : Favourite Alpha troll?
Aaaaaaaaah this changes as i loveeeee them allllll. I am gay for Vriska but she is also an asshole, I also love Gamzee but he is also an asshole but OH MY GOD I JUST REALISED THEY'RE BOTH MURDEROUS PEOPLE WITH BIG GRINS AND THATS WHY I LIKE THEM. Ghhh I also self project sm onto Eridan when writing him and I often use Kanaya's quirk bc i love her. Nepeta is adorable and I actually like Equius. Karkat is so fun to write and Tavros is baby. Aradia is cool af and so is Sollux. Terezi is just badass af. Honestly telling u my least fav would be easier. Ok but probably like. Idk. I cant. I literally cant. Dont really like Fef much tho lmao
Also I KNOW THIS ISNT WHAT U ASKED BUT I REALISED WAYYYY TOO LATE THAT THEY ARENT BETA CHARACTERS SKDBJFT SOOO FUCK YOU
18: Favourite Beta troll?
Alright LISTEN. I LOVE KURLOZ A LOT. But also like, there's a mix. I love Rufioh ngl he's really cool. Meenah is badass af. Latulaaaaa i love her. Aranea is a flashy Serket lmao i loved her info stand. Honestly Kankri is downright funny hed be fun to piss off. Mituna is baby and Cronus needs to fuck off. Damara is funny lmaooo i dint understand a word she says but she will say it anyway XD oh but Porrim is goddamn amazing. Meulin is so cuute too.
Hmmmmm im not sure, i dont really like the zahhak of this bunch as much but the reactions to his quirk were hilarious. Its not like they all got much development other than Meenah and Aranea but i suppose... Kurloz and Porrim. The ones im gay for lmao
25 : Favourite Alternian ancestor?
Ok but i actually really liked the Grand Highblood lmao and also the Marquise Mindfang. The Dolorosa too! Hahaaaa idk ill pick the Dolorosa i liked her and her outfit.
33 : Favourite pale ship?
Oh i actually love the idea of Jadekat lmao! And I was like thinking Roxy x Sollux bc coding brossss
37 : Favourite vacillating ship?
Listen we all know I love Erikar as a flushed ship but Erisol as a vacillating ship is for me
44 : Character you'd choose to be your austispice?
Probably Vriska bc she's described as being good at it lmao im like. Only 70% certain how it actually works lmao why couldnt you have asked me the other ones qwq
46 : Character you'd be best friends with?
Oh I don't know, I love them all! Ok not all but I love so much of them!! I'd want to be friends with Calliope and Dave and Roxy and Dirk and Johnnn and Jade and Jane and Jake
Ok probably Rose and John honestly idk if anyone else would take me though i'd love to do raps with Dave XD
47 : Patron troll? Are you happy with them?
Had to look this up aksvskjf Apparently its Equius I think? Which makes sense since im a Sagittarius and honestly I love this sweaty awkward douche
55 : Beforus or Alternia?
Ahhhh Beforus has a softer meaning of culling but I haven't seen that its actually much better than Alternia and I know more about Alternia too. Honestly Alternia ig? I would likely die but hey
75 : Do you like bloodswaps? Do you have a favourite?
I've seen these one(1) occasion and it was fuchsia Karkat before i fully knew the trolls lmao. I haven't like. Really seen enough to fully say anything? But it would be cool to see the highbloods as lower ones with the stuck up sides to Equius and Eridan's personalities
76 : Do you like kidswaps? Do you have a favourite?
I dont know what this means???
90 : Favourite Homestuck AU?
My own, Macbethstuck skdhjdf but also i like humanstucks and this one fic got me into Twilightstuck lmao
94 : What would your strife specibus be?
Nunchucks and Bow and arrow likely tho i need more practice with both
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dafukdidiwatch · 5 years ago
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Cupid Trolls AU
So with all this talk about cherubs, it got me and the Discord thinking and pulling a collaboration on creating a new AU.
Basically, all of the trolls are cupids. Wings, arrows, and everything, set to spread love all over Earth.
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But because they are trolls, there are 4 love quadrants. So there are 4 different types of arrows, one for each quadrant. Getting hit with a heart arrow will create flush feelings, getting hit with a spades arrow creates pitch feelings, etc etc.
cupid!Karkat is one of the best cupids around, knowing the ins and outs of all aspects of love and possible love situations. He is a master of all types of arrows, and uses them in a scientific manner to create the best possible relationships.
It doesn’t help that he keeps accidentally nicking himself with his own arrows, causing him to fall in love with his targets. (Luckily the arrow effects act more as a nudge than permanent love, so it eventually wears off to his usual grumpy self)
cupid!Nepeta is the shipping queen, so she also the master of all the arrows. She takes a more emotional approach to making couples, letting a bit of her fangirlness take over.
Because Nepeta and Karkat are the best cupids, they manage the others and give them assignments. Most would prefer Nepeta because she has the better drawing skills, thus making it easier to find what couple to match. (Karkat tries to act like it doesn’t bother him, but it does).
cupid!Equius is a Moirail Cupid, so only uses Diamond Arrows. Nepeta tries to help him out, but Equius usually ends up breaking the bow and arrow with his strength. To keep up with his work, he just opts to just punch the target with the arrow. This has the unintended effect of knocking out the target as well, but he takes what he can get.
cupid!Feferi is also a Moirail Cupid. She is not only one of the top cupids out there (behind Nepeta and Karkat), but the world’s view and lore of cupids matches Feferi practically perfectly. This makes her as the ideal cupids, and is an unofficial role model for others. 
Both cupid!Terezi and cupid!Vriska are Kismesis Cupids, wielding Spade Arrows. They actually work pretty well together, teaming up to make sure the couples get a “hate at first sight” moment. However, sometimes they will let their own competetiveness get the better of them and start working against each other to see who can match the most pitched couples.
cupid!Tavros is a Matesprit Cupid, who uses Heart Arrows. Though, because he doesn’t have much confidence in himself, he tends to miss the target more times than he hits. It doesn’t help when Vriska suddenly appears from time to time to try and “help” him.
cupid!Gamzee is also a Matesprit Cupid. However, because he keeps eating the clouds that they are on (no matter how many times Karkat yells at him otherwise), Gamzee is about as high as the clouds he keeps eating. The couples that he matches are actually inanimate objects. A car falls in love with a stop sign and refuses to move, a tree loves a house and crashes into it. Karkat swears that Gamzee made his socks fall in love with each other and ran away from his feet.
cupid!Sollux duel-wields. He has arrows for both Matesprit and Moirail Cupids., so he is able to match flush and pale couples. He still likes to keep his binary aesthetic, so he spray paints the Diamond Arrows a pale blue. Party because it makes it easier to pick out which arrows are which, party because it annoys the hell out of Karkat.
cupid!Eridan is a Matesprit Cupid, but hates it. He is able to shoot well and hit one of his targets. But before he can shoot the other, another cupid (usually Sollux) snags them for his own match-making. This results in Eridan’s target having unrequited feelings for the other couple.
This, combined with the fact that he can’t find love in his own life with the other cupids, made him decide to try and match couples for himself. He would steal arrows and shoot his personal targets to make them fall in love with him. This never works, with the target seeing someone or something else first before him, creating more unrequited love. Multiple times he had targets have flushed or pitched feelings for their own reflections.
Eridan doesn’t steal arrows from Karkat. Karkat counts them, and Eridan never manages to get away with it.
cupid!Kanaya is an Auspistice Cupid, so she uses Club Arrows. To make a proper Auspistice couple, she would find her target by an already pitched couple and shoot them. She would also shoot the 3rd party to prevent pitch infidelity, so would usually go out with Terezi and Vriska during their assignments. While she is the best Auspistice Cupid, she doesn’t exactly like her job. Especially when Vriska and Terezi compete into one another and use Kanaya to make sure their couples stay together (points don’t count if they break up).
This usually results to Kanaya periodically stealing Spade Arrows to prevent Pitch Couples, thus no longer requiring her to make an Auspistice. When this happens, Terezi and Vriska usually tone down their competitiveness so give Kanaya a break and get their arrows back.
Karkat blames Eridan for his missing arrows, and Kanaya never bothers to correct him.
cupid!Aradia isn’t actually a cupid at all. While physically she is a cupid, she was always more interested in death than love. So she decided to be a grim reaper and join the reaper ranks in collecting souls. She is still on friendly terms with everyone, and periodically tells them the lives of the souls she collects after they were hit with the arrows.
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ao3feed-rosekan · 6 years ago
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The Homestuck Afterwords- The End of the Symphony: Side Candy
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by StepperOfTheLongEarth
The End of the Epilogues didn't feel complete but we don't know anything about what is coming next. This sad state of affairs is going to be changes by yours truly. I present The Homestuck Afterwords! A continuation about what happens AFTER the Epilogues. This duology of Homestuck Fan Fiction can be read in any order weather Candy or Meat. They will be updated one chapter per side (or not if I feel like adding one or more chapter at a time). This is intended to be the same work regardless of how the number of the series is displayed. For your convenience I will be placing links to each of the corresponding chapters and the next equivalence so that you may read this however you want. For example: Start with Candy 1 -> Meat 1 -> Candy 2 -> Meat 2 or vise versa. Or just read each straight through. This will be an ongoing project and as I'm shitballs terrible when it comes to planning for writing, the schedule is currently up in the air. This fic may also contain fonts that your computer does not have so it may not display correctly. I will be providing download links for you to have the most authentic (tm) experience possible. I have no idea will go. Enjoy!
Words: , Chapters: 1/40, Language: English
Series: Part 2 of The Homestuck Afterwords
Fandoms: Homestuck, MS Paint Adventures
Rating: Mature
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death
Categories: F/F, F/M, M/M, Multi, Other
Characters: John Egbert, Rose Lalonde, Dave Strider, Jade Harley, Karkat Vantas, Gamzee Makara, Tavros Nitram, Eridan Ampora, Sollux Captor, Equius Zahhak, Terezi Pyrope, Vriska Serket, Kanaya Maryam, Aradia Megido, Feferi Peixes, Nepeta Leijon, Jane Crocker, Jake English, Dirk Strider, Roxy Lalonde, Calliope (Homestuck), Alternate Calliope (Homestuck), Nannasprite (Homestuck), Jaspersprite (Homestuck), ARquiusprite (Homestuck), Erisolsprite (Homestuck), Gcatavrosprite (Homestuck), Davepetasprite (Homestuck), Damara Megido, Aranea Serket, Meenah Peixes, Meulin Leijon, Rufioh Nitram, Mituna Captor, Kurloz Makara, Lord English (Homestuck), The Felt (Homestuck), Midnight Crew (Homestuck), Spades Slick, Diamonds Droog, Hearts Boxcars, Jack Noir, Draconian Dignitary, Courtyard Droll, Peregrine Mendicant, White Queen (Homestuck), Ms. Paint (Homestuck), Serenity (Homestuck), Secret Wizard (Homestuck), Clan of the Secret Wizards, Casey (Homestuck), Crumplehat (Homestuck), Consorts (Homestuck), Turtle (Homestuck), Nakodiles (Homestuck), Andrew Hussie, Dad Crocker, Original Troll Character(s) (Homestuck), Original Carapacian Character(s), Maplehoof (Homestuck), MSPA Reader, Sawtooth (Homestuck), Squarewave (Homestuck), Mierfa Durgas, Nektan Whelan, Original Male Character(s), Original Female Character(s), Swifer Eggmop, Cliper Borden, Vriska Lalonde, Tavros Crocker, Harry Anderson Egbert, Davebot Strider, Rosebot Lalonde, Jasprosesprite
Relationships: John Egbert/Roxy Lalonde, Dave Strider/Karkat Vantas, John Egbert/Terezi Pyrope, Rose Lalonde/Kanaya Maryam, Jade Harley/Dave Strider, Meenah Peixes/Karkat Vantas, Jade Harley/Dave Strider/Karkat Vantas, Vriska Lalonde/Vriska Serket, Terezi Pyrope/Vriska Serket, Jane Crocker/Jasprosesprite, Davepetasprite/Jade Harley, Jade Harley/Happiness, Jane Crocker/Roxy Lalonde, Jake English/Dirk Strider, Calliope/Roxy Lalonde, Roxy Lalonde/Terezi Pyrope, Original Male Character(s)/Original Female Character(s), Original Female Character(s)/Original Female Character(s), Original Male Character(s)/Original Male Character(s), Roxy Lalonde/Original Character(s), Terezi Pyrope/Original Character(s), Tavros Nitram/Vriska Serket, Nepeta Leijon/Dave Strider, Aradia Megido/Davebot, Rose Lalonde/Terezi Pyrope, Jade Harley/Feferi Peixes, Calliope/Jane Crocker, Tavros Crocker/Vriska Lalonde, Harry Anderson Egbert/Vriska Lalonde, Alternate Calliope/Dirk Strider
Additional Tags: Tags Contain Spoilers, Other Ships Not Mentioned in Tags, Alternate Universe, Canon Compliant, Canon Divergent, Meta, epilogue compliant, Non Epilogue Compliant, The Homestuck Epilogues, Mind Control, Manipulation, Misogyny, Sexism, Incestuous Undertones, Transphobia, Misgendering, toxic masculinity, gender transition, Nonbinary Character(s), identity questioning, World War, Political Intrigue, Genocide, Speciesism, Political Rebellion, Fascism, Revolutionary Rhetoric, Capitalism, gerrymandering, Robots, Drug Use, Rough Sex, Implied Sexual Content, alcohol use, Mental Illness, Polyamory, Friends to Lovers, Interspecies Relationships, Unhealthy Relationships, Past Relationships, Developing Relationships, established relationships - Freeform, Long-Term Relationships, End Game Ships, Infidelity, Possession, Power Imbalances, Light BDSM, Furry, Anthropomorphic Characters, Body Horror, Alien Biology, Ghosts, Death, Self-Sacrifice, Guilt, Self-Hatred, Family Dynamics, Dorks in Love, Multipairing, Fan Characters, Worldbuilding, Canon-Typical Violence, Cults, Frogs, Aliens, Friendship, Kissing, Crying, Multichapter, POV Second Person, POV First Person, POV Third Person, POV Multiple, Forgiveness, Unrequited Love, clown, Romantic Fluff, Canonical Character Death, Trickster Mode (Homestuck), Caliginous Romance | Kismesis, Pale Romance | Moirallegiance, Flushed Romance | Matesprits, Ashen Romance | Auspistice, Post-Sburb/Sgrub, Post-Canon, The Homestuck Epilogues: Candy, Earth C (Homestuck), Breaking the Fourth Wall, Video Game Mechanics, Time Travel, SBURB (Homestuck), Weird Plot Shit, Brain Ghosts, Trans Roxy Lalonde, Doomed Timeline(s) (Homestuck), Dreamselves, Implied God Teir Powers, Rainbow Drinkers, Beforus (Homestuck), Alternia, Quadrant Vacillation, Quadrant Confusion, Pesterlog(s) (Homestuck), Time Shenanigans, The Author Regrets Nothing, The Author Regrets Everything, Self-Insert, Reader-Insert, Problem Sleuth references, Meta Bullshit, Metafiction, Gambling
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roselalondeisbisexual · 7 years ago
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Look, if you’re okay with headcanoning:
Aradia - who was dating Sollux in an unspecified quadrant, referred to only as her boyfriend, and who dated Equius vacillating between flush and pitch
Nepeta - who was moirails with Equius all throughout Homestuck, and had a crush on Karkat  
Terezi - who played matesprit pingpong with both Dave and Karkat (Which resulted in some unsavory behaviors from Karkat but that’s hardly her fault), went pitch with Gamzee, and pale flirted with Sollux  with regularity and in public
Vr*ska - who was kismesis with Eridan,  physically forced Tavros to kiss her, mind controlled Tavros into wanting to kiss her, had a crush on Nicholas Cage, manipulated John’s perceptions of her actions so that he would later be willing to date her, and indicated a certain level of attraction to ARquius 
Feferi - who entered into a relationship with Sollux, and was moirails (unhealthy, but still) with Eridan
Damara - who dated Rufioh 
Meulin - who dated Kurloz
Latula - who was in a happy flushed relationship with Mituna
Porrim - who Meenah and Aranea implied slept with the majority of their friend group (goals, honestly)
Aranea - who called herself bisexual (well, she called troll reproduction bisexual, but the implication is there, and she also and lumped all trolls in with herself, which is a post for a different day) 
Meenah - who had a crush on Karkat and wanted to date him
Jade - who dated Davesprite and was sad when they broke up
Roxy - who told Dirk she liked him “practically every day” and had a large part of both their arcs being her attraction to him and his inability to return her romantic affections
and
Jane - who liked Jake a lot and had a significant part of her and his arc relating to the fact that she liked him
as lesbians, you have absolutely no right to be upset at who like headcanoning Rose as bisexual. If you’re a-okay with handwaving away all the emotional attachments and depths and the impact that attraction to boys have on the arcs of the Homestuck gals because “All headcanons are good headcanons” (a true statement), then you have no leg to stand on to get angry or send vicious messages to people who headcanon Rose as bi (especially since she flirted with boys prior to meeting the love of her life (and NATURALLY that would prevent her from flirting with anyone who wasn’t Kanaya anyway, regardless of gender)).
I’m not saying I dislike lesbian headcanons for the Homestuck gals. I do in fact headcanon a number of the people that I listed as lesbians. HOWEVER. Do not act like lesbian headcanons are better than bisexual headcanons, or that your arguments are grounded in canon. If you cared so dearly about what Homestuck canon has to say about orientation, you would be just as vicious to people who headcanon the people listed above as lesbian as you are to the people who headcanon Rose as bi. But you aren’t, because that’s petty and outrageous, right? You don’t because you’re letting your biphobia get the best of you and you’re pretending you have a right to tell people what they are and aren’t allowed to headcanon. Newsflash, Kanaya and Dirk are the only characters with canon sexual orientations, and people can headcanon whatever makes them happy for the rest of the cast.
You have no right, no fucking right, to be bitter and hateful towards bisexual headcanons when you’re fine with lesbian headcanons for characters who show canonical attraction towards men.
Also, alongside not having any right, it’s petty and mean and you shouldn’t be hateful ANYWAY you JACKASSES.
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argentconflagration · 2 years ago
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Okay so
erisol, fefkat, and rosemary are existing flushed relationships. nepeta also has a crush on jade, which we knew from the recent updates as well.
meowrails, gamkar, solrezi, and roseridan(!) are moirails, and nepeta thinks arafef(!) and tavros/kanaya(!) probably are too. erifef maybe have lingering mutual feelings, and karkat and kanaya are maybe having an illicit pale affair. nepeta's 'I have NO idea what these people are doing!' looks like it might refer to the kanaya-karkat-gamzee pale triangle.
im so fucking confused by the ashen chart, but it looks like kanaya has ashen feelings for vriska/terezi, and rose has ashen feelings for terezi/john. sollux is also auspisticizing karkat/karkat, obviously.
kanaya/gamzee and john/tavros are in black relationships. nepeta has a black crush on gamzee, who has feelings for terezi (not again!). vriska and terezi have simmering mutual feelings like always. erisol have a caliginous undertone to their official red relationship.
sollux and tavros both have red feelings for aradia, who has pale feelings for the both of them, which sounds like a tragedy in progress. terezi and john both have red crushes on rose, which is hilarious cause she wants to auspisticize them. johnvris are officially moirails (presuming vriska is alive, which i think we know but nepeta doesn't), but there are flushed and ashen feelings in there too.
the chart says it 'doesn't account for karkat and eridan's recent breakup' but they're not shown as being in a relationship on the chart, so maybe karkat was until recently in yet another illicit pale relationship, with eridan, and they just broke up
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[aC]: ;33 < it sure is tough being the most popular shipper in all of paradox space, but i can hardly resist the temptation to share with my fellow purrveyors of fine fan content!
[aC]: 833 < THERE HAS BEEN SOOO MUCH DRAMA that there is nooo way i can fit it into one single post
[aC]: :33 < k33p in mind this is only a summary of purrent events this doesn’t account for what’s just happened, like that karkat and eridan just broke up </>
Dotted lines are for crushes/unofficial relationships, and directional arrows indicate who the crush is on. Solid lines are official/requited feelings. On the ash section of the grid, dotted black lines are not being intervened with.
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raincoasts · 6 years ago
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who wants to hear about my john strider canon? no one? sweet, here goes (under the cut)
i generally looked like canon john, ‘cept with red eyes, sunglasses instead of glasses, and some small moles on my arms. 
i lived in a house with dad, my sister, jade strider, and our dog bec. jade also had sunglasses instead of glasses, and usually wore her hair in a braid. dad was kinda young, and raised us by himself and home schooled us both. he dressed kinda like bro. dave lalonde was my best friend, and rose egbert was jade’s.
all the trolls were swapped around, too.
aradia was a jade blood and had the virgo symbol
tavros was a cobalt blood, and had the taurus symbol
sollux was a violet blood, and had the gemini
karkat was a teal blood, and had the libra symbol
nepeta was a fuchsia blood, and had the pisces 
kanaya was a gold blood, and had the gemini symbol
terezi was a bronze blood, and had the taurus symbol
vriska was an olive blood, and had the leo symbol
equius was mutant blooded, and had the cancer symbol
gamzee was a gold blood, and had the capricorn symbol
eridan was a gold blood, and had the gemini symbol
feferi was a gold blood, and had the pisces symbol
i also had all my quadrants filled w trolls
- tavros, kanaya, vriska, and feferi
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time fo’ some general details
it was common to have up to 3 people in the flushed/pale quadrants
everyone achieved god tier except jake
jade and i were each other’s client/host players
feel free to DM me if any of this sounds familiar, you want more details, or you just wanna chat
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sadghostdyke · 7 years ago
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let's be real..... the homestuck quadrants are unhealthy
like, i mean. quadrant relationships are important to some characters and i definitely think that there are relationships where its 100% located in one and only one quadrant (moirallegiances and kismesissitudes specifically) but throughout homestuck its shown that they really are limiting. they confine people to just one idea of what their relationship should look like. 
first of all, what do the quadrants look like? matespritship is a 'passionate love often with sexual desire' and is compared to married couples. moirallegiance is  love to the extent that it's compared with 'protecting the other's heart'- it's comfort, love, and caring about one another. kismessitude is a 'fated nemesis', an archrival that you respect deeply and also hate and want to bang. we're completely going to ignore the ashen quadrant because its not romantic in any real way tbh.
this is specifically shown in the comic itself. keeping your relationship in one quadrant goes poorly for everyone involved. aradia & equius flip black and red constantly. kanaya briefly flips black for vriska in her flushed crush, vriska and tavros flip red and black, etc. those relationships all end poorly.
meanwhile the endgame 'red' couples (davekat, vrisrezi, cotton callie, jadepetasprite, rosemary, i can't think of any others) all show elements of having multiple quadrants at least.  
davekat frequently exhibits black and pale tendencies from their behavior together; both karkat and dave say they 'hate' each other but also care deeply about one another, and they watch movies together and cuddle and take care of one another; textbook pale right there!
vrisrezi is a whole other post but suffice it to say that both vriska and terezi are implied to have red feelings for one another and have waxed black on many an occasion... yet they're 'officially' moirails (which has parallels to internalized lesbophobia, even though they do have actual pale feelings for one another). terezi and vriska mean EVERYTHING to one another tbh
cotton callie: roxy and jane and callie comfort one another on separate occasions and callie actually refers to her relationship with roxy as 'moirails' in-text iirc but they're all engaged in the snapd8s so!
jadepetasprite: again, that conversation about jade's feeling of inadequacy? textbook pale! but we know they date, so!
rosemary: again, they have many pale moments and even a couple black moments (definitely had a rivalry, especially in the earlier segments of the comic)
anyways. quadrants are unhealthy and transcending them is a symbol of real life gayness
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