#also a Fizz kinnie

[purple-nerd-bird]

honestly still here wishing Ozzie and Fizz's relationship was non-romantic

like their lovey-dovey shit's cutesy and all that but like

I was really banking on aroallo Ozzie and/or Fizz

[prof-ramses]

A Mammon Analysis Written By A Mammon Kinnie! :8D

It's time to make y'all love this magnificent bastard even more than you already do so we can finally have something just happen in this fandom!

First off, the analysis.

A lot of people seem to think of Mammon as "dumb" or "oblivious", when he's far from either. Mammon is actually a very intelligent and attentive person, but just like most subtle things about him, it can be hard to notice because of his eccentricities.

As far as I see it, Mammon views everything he does as an investment to some extent, whether it be a literal monetary one or one of time, effort and/or attention. This is also one of the big things that make him so relatable to me. It's also worth noting that as a flipside to this, he also sees any option he's presented with in terms of physical or emotional value and trying to maximize said value as much as possible.

Mam doesn't interrupt "Two Minutes Notice" not because he's stupid, but because insults don't truly detract from the value of him or anything he has, not to mention the fact that he could tell that a lot of people would be willing to buy the song, just look how many are hanging of Fizz's every word when he describes having a crappy boss.

Likewise, criticizing Fizz's weight is something Mam solely does because it helps profits and has no genuine personal issue with Fizz potentially getting chunkier.

This shows something else interesting about Mammon, he doesn't really want to do destructive things, people just keep giving him every reason to do so, he's not dangerous on his own.

Every action Mam takes that makes Fizz uncomfortable is a direct result of him catering to what the consumers want, whether it be religiously watching his spokesman's weight for the sake of keeping the skinny sex-bots accurate, or forcing a mentally unstable person to spend a lot of time socializing to get people to pay admission for a meet-&-greet.

There's also the fact that he runs Greed in such a way that benefits Hell as a whole way more than Ozzie and Bee do. Admittedly, he over charges for his products, but said products are up to snuff, you'd expect him to peddle cheap junk that falls apart almost instantly, but no, he makes quality products and just charges extra. He really is a shrewd businessman when you get down to it, and that's something a lot of people have sadly overlooked when discussing our favorite spider.

Which brings me to my next point, Mammon being a spider is actually really clever, assuming what I'm about to describe was intended and not just me reading too much into a cheap Australia joke. Spiders are often shown as eerie and a way of reminding the viewer of a piece of media that nature can be scary, and though they do some really weird and freaky stuff, that's also the beauty of spiders. They have some of the most innovative and distinct hunting patterns in nature, they're more of a neutral presence, just like greed itself.

I've seen many people claim in their analysis of Mammon that "greed can't be good" which is just demonstrably untrue, greed is really just any action that prioritizes bettering oneself, it's only destructive if you are willing to be destructive, but even then it can lead to innovation and broad positive change, even if someone is worse off because of it.

Lastly, I want to discuss Mammon's obvious need for personal affection, the big guy is blatantly touch starved and craves a close connection, I have a rather headcanon-y idea about the origin of this behavior and I plan to link to it once I post about it in detail, but that can wait. However, this does reflect that idea of value and investment, Mam has yet to find someone who is both pleasant for him to be around and whose company has a reasonable "price". I see many possibilities for exploring this facet of his characterization and look forward to seeing the discussion about it grow.

Stay tuned for my HCs and theories about his Stinginess! ALL HAIL MAMMON!

[milo-sky-404]

Mammon's Magnificent Musical

warning for screaming, caps, and spoilers, if you haven't seen the latest episode here it is

okay now with that out of the way

OH MY GOD THIS EPISODE

EEEEEEEEEEEE

NO BECAUSE THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING. OZZY SAYING THAT??? IT CHANGES EVERYTHING. IT'S THE START OF NORMALIZING THE INTERMIXING OF THE CLASSES OF HELL, BUT IT'S ALSO THE START OF A WAR.

both ozzy and fizz will be shunned and marked as the start of an era. the people who want change will support them and the people who do not will shun and fight them.

this also opens up the door for blitz and stolas. the two, now that we begin to see this acceptance, will open the door to really, truly having a relationship and what it means for them.

and fizz fighting back against mammon? huge. fizz kinnie here, i am SO damn proud of him. fighting against your idol is everything. someone who you look up to, who while having given you the world exploited and abused you. shit, that's hard. its hard to acknowledge that crap. its hard to let someone like that go. and he fuckin did it.

and teenage fizz and blitz my beloved. so gender. so sweet. someone give teenage blitz a gun dammit he deserves it.

okay i'll shut up now-

but this.

this changes everything.

[solroswaslost]

Hello! I'm the creator of Retro, Disco, Melody, Chase, Groovy, Fizz, and Swagger!

I'm a Greaser Kinnie, I use He/They/Xem, I'm a minor(16) I already have a lovely partner who on here goes by Dizzy so please be respectful of that, also I'm so sorry if we start talking and I stop answering.. I genuinely forget to answer and then get scared to text back after a long while /gen

My other socials! Tho I really only post on here..

Tiktok

Instagram

Boundaries!

Please don't take my characters names. /vsrs Looking at you lucidia sys. (They took Retro and Melody's name, I'm uncomfortable with that, I've said that. Other characters are fine since they're just basic names.)

DNI - Endo systems, racists, homophobes, transphobes, etc basic Dni

Depending/if we're close - Flirt /j /p

Go ahead! / INT - Make art of my characters, just tag me please, I'd love to see it! Make headcannons of said character, ask questions about them or me! || Systems, Fresh kinnies, PJ kinnies (I forgot what else to add..)

Interests:

- My ocs (Except I have.. alot alot of ocs)

- UTMV

- Hazbin Hotel!

- COTL

- School bus graveyard

- FNAF

- Heathers the movie

- Black Butler!

I will be posting things like:

- Greaser/Vinny posts

- PaperFreaser (PaperJam x Fresh x Greaser) (or any ship with Greaser in it)

- Me reblogging every single blog my partner posts

- ALOT of characters...

- Alot of angst??? Maybe, I'm still deciding

[prof-ramses]

While I think that Mammon was better written than Stella, it would be like to see him kinda show some charisma with his fans.

Here is an idea.

Maybe the episode could show Mammon being loved by everyone in hell because he has knows how to get people to love him. What if when Fizz insults Mammon, Mammon’s fans actually turn on Fizz. When Fizz leaves with Asmodeus, people are actually booing him off the stage. Fizz and Asmodeus become a laughing stock and hated by everyone. It would not matter to Fizz and Asmodeus because they would have each other. However, there would still be that consequence to their actions. Asmodeus would have to deal with the bad publicity, but he got Fizz to leave Mammon. So, Asmodeus would still be happy. It would be bittersweet. What do you think?

You just solved my biggest issue with the episode! The ending always felt slightly off to me and this absolutely blows it out of the water!

I love that Mam wouldn't need to "make" people like him, despite being amoral, he's a genuinely endearing and charismatic guy. All he really needs to do is avoid the topic of business and he's free to be himself while the fans keep pouring in. (As they should, he deserves it)

It' also the perfect comeuppance for Ozzie and Fizz's hypocrisy in past episodes, it's the perfect way for Mammon to screw them over without having to do anything. You might see it as bittersweet, but as a Mammon kinnie, I consider this sweet as icing!

One a side note, being hated actually would matter to Fizz, but not directly. If enough people turned on him, Ozzie would probably become even more smothering than ever in fear of someone trying to harm Fizz, which would make Fizz even more uncomfortable with Ozzie essentially controlling his life. This would basically mean their personalities would effectively make them punish each other!

Maybe have a moment where Oliver runs out of the theatre in shock and betrayal.

This might just get incorporated into my GoldenGoose-verse

@pinkandpurple360 , you gotta get a look at this!