#alastor and blitz have so much in common
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Me waking up to read @peppy-jester response to our thread
Why do I feel like I was just cockblocked
Autocorrect: do you mean cocoblocked
Me: .... sure.
#𐂃「ᴏᴜᴛ ᴏꜰ ʙᴜʟʟᴇᴛꜱ」 &&. * 𝐨𝐨𝐜.#( mobile. )#( IM GOING TO WORK WITH THESE GAY THOUGHTS#SOMEONE END ME#also i love that the two demons in BOTH hell shows#dont have biological kids but are willing#to adopt and care for as their own#alastor and blitz have so much in common#THEY WOULD GET ALONG GREAT#to lucifer's frustration probably lmao#anywhore i gotta get ready#taking a shower to cleanse myself )
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Howdy!
I am here to talk about Viv's horrible character designs.
From an animator perspective, they suck.
Here's why
1. The characters have way too much detail
For animation, more lines equal more work. You're going to be drawing them over and over, and it just creates more stress and work for the animators.
For example, I took one of the most egregious designs in HB (Beelzebub) and simplified it to be animation friendly.
(Can't send it here but I'll probably make a post about it or something.)
2. There's too much of 1 color
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH RED??
Especially since they're in a primarily red background, they don't stand out AT ALL.
Like how am I supposed to see them if they blend in to the background??
3. I have no idea what half of them are supposed to be
Charlie is based off a doll?
Alastor is based off of a deer?
Katie Killjoy is based off of a praying mantis?
Angel Dust is based off of a spider?
Beelzebub is supposed to be well... Beelzebub?
When designing characters, they need to be clear on what they're supposed to be! And no, explaining it on Twitter does not count.
4. The animation reference sheets are garbage
No wonder there's so much animation errors. There's no facial expression sheets, lip sync guide, nothing. It's just a 4 angle turnaround sheet where the character is in complex poses all the time.
If you Google Lackadaisy's animation reference sheets and then look at HB's, it's like night and day.
I'm more than willing to send some examples (along with the edit I did) if you want
So yeah, what are your thoughts?
These are all great points! I think you summed up the main problems very well, but I'll elaborate on each of them. I'm no expert at character design or animation by any means, but I'll do my best to explain my points!
First of all, like you said, the character designs are way too complicated. Anyone who knows even the slightest amount about animation knows you want to simplify and streamline your designs as much as possible to make it easier on the animators. Vivzie is way too obsessed with her Deviantart OC lookin'-ass character designs to actually do this, even though it would seriously help to make the animation process way faster and easier. Beelzebub is seriously the best (or worst?) example of this.
I feel so bad for the poor souls who had to animate this. There are just way too many moving parts here, from her multiple arms, her wings, her markings, to her freaking lava lamp hair and tail?? It's just awful. And so many of Viv's designs suffer this problem, I could go on and on.
Like, I think it actually is a nice looking design, as a still image. Maybe not for the demon Beelzebub, but as a general furry OC, I think she's cute. But that's beside the point. I would love to see your redesign of her!
Next, the RED. So, most of the characters we see in Helluva Boss are red-skinned imps, which has been a common depiction of demons for centuries. One big problem I have is that there's little contrast in these designs. Let's look at our three main imps.
Aside from some white and yellow highlights, they're all mostly red and black. Their color palettes aren't distinct in the slightest! And, I mean, come on. Red accessories against what's almost the exact same shade of red skin? Really? It just doesn't look good. A little contrast here and there goes a long way, like... maybe make Moxxie's bowtie blue? Or Blitz's pendant green? I don't know, anything to help each character stand out, and help give them more visual intrigue.
It doesn't help that most of the backgrounds are primarily shades of red, too. Here's a few screenshots I found that really show this problem.
Look at all that fucking red. Like you said, there's such little color variation that the characters blend into the background. Now, to be fair, I did specifically choose these screenshots because I think they really highlight the problem, but this really is what so much of the show looks like. Granted, we do have a bit more variety in the different rings of Hell, each with their own main color, but this is still too much red, considering how much the color comprises the main characters' designs.
Next, like you said, Vivzie is really bad at making characters actually look like the things they're supposed to look like. Let's take Alastor as an example!
Oh boy! More red and black. So, Alastor here is supposed to be a deer. What's the first physical characteristic that comes to mind when you think of a deer?
Yeah, those big, impressive antlers! So... where are his? Oh, they're those tiny little forks on his head that are almost entirely obscured by his stupid emo hair. Like, come on! Giving him bigger antlers would have made him look so much cooler and more intimidating, and it would have been a great focal point for his design! It's such a missed opportunity. (I know he has bigger antlers in his scarier "demon" form, but you still could have made these a little more impressive.) And don't even get me started on those ears... they look more like fox ears or something. Like you said, a good design shouldn't need to be explained through supplementary material. We should be able to tell what a character is supposed to be just from looking at them!
Another great example is Angel Dust, who, despite being a spider, lacks so many distinct features we associate with spiders! He only has six legs instead of eight, he doesn't have pedipalps or chelicerae, and he also lacks that big old spider booty, which I think is such a missed opportunity, considering he is supposed to be in the sex industry. He isn't even remotely shaped like a spider, he looks more like a fuzzy stick bug or something.
Part of me feels like Viv is too afraid to make her characters look unique, so she just goes with the same, skinny humanoid design for just about everything. It's such a shame, because I really do think she is a talented artist who can make some really interesting designs. But then again, she also gave us Beelzebub, so... maybe not.
As for the reference sheets, maybe I wasn't looking hard enough but I couldn't find any official ones for the main characters, so if you could send those my way I would appreciate it! Though it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they were bad. I did look up Lackadaisy's and found them pretty easily and...
This is so freaking comprehensive and detailed, it's incredible! Look at all those poses and facial expressions!
Comparing Vivzie's works to Tracy's feels kind of unfair, since Tracy has been working on Lackadaisy for 17 years, and it really shows. This is leaps and bounds above Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel in quality. Rocky's design is tight; it's detailed, but not overly complicated. There isn't an obnoxious overuse of highly saturated colors, and there's such nice contrast between his fur, his eyes, suit, and tie, making his design very nice to look at. You can also tell so much about his personality and the world he lives in just from his appearance. It's such a good design, and Rocky is just one example from Lackadaisy! All of Tracy's designs are memorable and stand out from one another, unlike so many of Vivzie's characters, whose designs honestly feel interchangable.
So much thought and care has gone into Lackadaisy, and I seriously cannot wait for the full series, as well as all the other amazing indie animated series that have been coming out recently. It's sad that Helluva Boss is seen as the pinnacle of indie animation, when there are so many other series out there that are just.. better! Lackadaisy, obviously, but we've also got Digital Circus, Murder Drones, Monkey Wrench, and so many others that deserve way more appreciation than what Helluva Boss receives. And that's just from an art direction standpoint, we aren't even talking about writing. That's a whole other can of worms.
All of that being said, it's obvious that a ton of love and hard work went into Helluva Boss, and I hold absolutely nothing against the animators and artists at Spindlehorse. These poor design choices are a hallmark of Vivzie's art style, and they're simply working with what they've got. There is such wasted potential here because it feels like Vivzie is too afraid to step outside her comfort zone and design something that isn't a brightly colored, sharp-toothed twink, or skinny anthro wolf girl.
Anyways, that about wraps up my thoughts. Thanks for the ask, this was fun to delve into! And again, I'd be very interested in seeing you post your redesigns! 👀
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A small, yet, HUGE thing that happened during the "Full Moon" episode of Helluva Boss.
Pineapple whiskey for this one, folks. Sweet but burns all the way down, just like parts of this episode. (Side eyes the Cherubs).
*Sip, sip*
Blitz runs away. Granted, he is an immensely complicated character (which is why I love him just about as much as I love Alastor), with a plethora of emotional baggage. But it is a common trait for him when faced with difficult situations, especially regarding intimate partners, to just run away.
He, in part, ran away from Fiz.
He ran away from Verosika.
He ran away from Stolas as well.
But when Stolas tells him he cares, when Stolas confesses he wants more and sets Blitz free and admits to having these heavy feelings, Blitz yells and screams and says some hurtful things (no, I'm not on Stolas' side. They were both right and they were both wrong, but that is for another post).
But he doesn't run away.
"You can't just dismiss me like that! ... Well, I'm not letting you, bitch! Let's go! ... Stolas, wait. I'm sor---"
Blitz, who pushes everyone away while running in the opposite direction, stays to have the conversation just to be pushed away.
Blitz has grown. Tremendously. And I am so damn excited for more of him. And based on those few glimpses that we see of him in the S2 second-half trailer, he is not going to give up easily. He is not running this time, he's not pushing this time. Now he's fighting if only to have the conversation and I am here for it!
Blitz running towards something---someone ... I love it.
Cheers.
*Sip, sip*
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🛒, 💖, & 🦅 !! :)
Spoon! *Sir Pentious voice* Hello, my dear!
(Questions from this fanfic writer emoji ask list -- come ask me things!)
🛒 What are some common things you incorporate in your fics? Themes, feels, scenes, imagery, etc.
Oh man, what a question. I feel like it's kind of a grab bag, depending on genre. If it's something more serious, I love more dense imagery and layered metaphors from religion or mythology. I want the vibe to feel like a fever dream, something hazy or intangible. I like using the idea of what I sort of think of as broken mirroring. My QPR Alastor/Vox/Rosie series does this. Something in the first half that I twist later in the second half. It hurts so much more. I also really like using nature or biology. Imagery of moss or bones, etc.
My college degree is in Literature but with a specific focus on Victorian novels and writing. So if I'm not writing like a goddamn Bronte, what is the point of me.
If it's humor, I fucking love a repeat joke. Blitz having to deal with everyone telling him Alastor eats people? Fucking hilarious. I will beat any horse to death and I will die on every hill.
💖 What made you start writing?
I joke about the rampant un-medicated ADHD, and that is a thing, but I started writing when I was a little kid mostly because I was lonely. I've never been great at the whole friend making thing and I was one of those kids with a rich inner fantasy world that I got out by learning how to write. I can't remember a time I wasn't writing. I don't know if I'm ever going to be as good as I want to be, which haha totally doesn't keep me up at night. I feel like if you cut me open, instead of blood you'd find a steady drip of vowels and consonants. My organs are paragraphs and my skull is a typewriter.
🦅 Do you outline fics or fly by the seat of your pants?
Hoo buddy, do I WISH I fucking outlined stuff. Like, I usually have a general idea of what I'm going to accomplish. I usually have a starting point and an end point. It's just that pesky middle part. Sometimes I do write down vague ideas, like:
The hotel is acting weird (rooms change?, radios?, etc)
Alastor missing?
Something happens to Charlie so Lucifer gets involved
Luci finds Alastor and heals him
And that's what ended up becoming Be It Ever So Humble.
So like, I have vibes, I know the tone or the scenes I want to hit, but a cohesive idea? Heaven's no. It's not even FLYING by the seat of my pants, it's PLUMMETING.
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⭐ 🔦 🎵 for the system ask game please, if possible!
Thank you for the ask!!
🌟 - do any alters headmates help out with school/work?
We're not in school, but they did in the past. Particularly Lilac/@butterflysslumber , Fuzzy, Mettaton, and on occasion Ms. Peregrine.
🔦 - how did you discover your system?
Well, technically we had 2 discoveries.
When we were very young, our original host, or the 'core', if you will, mentioned off hand multiple times to our parents about 'having friends in her head' and would often times react to 'the things my friends said'. Though at the time this was brushed off as imaginary friends, but it lines up exactly with the formation of certain members.
Then in early 2021(?) host 1 was able to piece some things together from information from other system friends, and then from there, as it learned more about systems, realized we were a system.
We were never really 'hidden' just always passed off as something else, either imaginary friends, spiritual connections, intrusive thoughts, past lives, etc.
But now we're here!! :] open to our family, therapist, and our irls friends and acquaintances about being plural
🎵 - what songs remind you of your headmates?
Different songs remind us of different headmates!! Some headmates even have their own playlists!!
Obviously MIND BRAND comes up for MIND BRAND and The Chattering Lack Of Common Sense comes up for the PNRF subsys but considering they're songtives of those, idk how much that counts
Ballroom Blitz reminds us of our main Dabi due to it being one of his favourite songs. Cotton Eye Joe reminds us of our protector!Alastor since H3 likes it so much. Family Jewels reminds us of 'Ciel' for, well, obvious reasons. There's definitely others but those are the first to come to mind.
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so, like, why clowning ?
some worldbuilding headcanons about imps & clowning ! cw for mentions of classism ( fantasy, but still ) that also borders on racism ( fantasy but STILL and i'm trying not to touch that as much as i can ).
let's get out of the way that viv just seems to really love a good circus theme - like, yeah, okay, it's everywhere. we can understand that as an aesthetic choice, and then dig into why it's interesting and honestly, why it fits! because it does fit.
o1. wow, it's brutal out here.
hell is not kind to imps. it's explicitly in the text of the show that imps are not well respected or privileged within hell, and widely held that they actively hold the position of the bottom of the social ladder. specifically, we know that economically there's very little room for mobility - see, striker's it's rare to see an imp start their own business. we also see the assumptions and prejudice faced outside of wrath, see the waiting room scene in western energy, and striker's monologue about hard lives in the same episode.
entertainment in general is not a vein that is even particularly conducive for imps, just one where they can succeed. the most famous performers that we see in the hellaverse are angel, a mortal sinner, vox and alastor, mortal overlords, verosika, a hellborn succubus, and ozzie and mammon themselves, deadly sins. even the performers at mammon's contest aren't exclusively imps - most of them are just another form of hellborn, and the glam sisters in particular seem to come from envy and have money behind them.
fizz is unequivocally the most famous imp performer, and most famous imp in general, that we see. even in the flashbacks, the buckzo circus was billed as the all imp circus - indicating that it's not a common practice.
given how hard it is to find a foothold in economic and social mobility, it makes sense that the one venue we do see it in, performing, is extremely important.
o2. i've ( don't ) got the magic
thus far, imps and hellhounds are the only beings in hell that we've seen without any access to magic. even sinners are granted some inherent power and we see that increase dramatically if they gain power as an overlord. it is, simply put, hard to stand out in a world where some people can snap their fingers and conjure up the most incredible displays, or even just neatly get the job done.
a lot of the social / economic mobility we see for imps comes from their willingness to put in the work. I.M.P. has access to the living world, which is not unheard of but rare, but they are also willing to hunt down a target and get blood on their hands on behalf of those who can't get to the living world (and we know the other ways to access that living world are rare and expensive). striker also does assassination work - but largely for those who are simply not a position to get the job done themselves.
we explicitly see how hard fizz works to have the station and reputation he does - how much pressure he puts on himself to be perfect. in the flashbacks, we see that blitz & fizz (and barbie presumably) are already performing real shows at the age of five or six, and cash is already putting an enormous amount of pressure on fizz as one of his highest earners and biggest draws. it would be a lot easier to attract attention or create these entertaining displays if you have access to magic - or at least MONEY for a better tent, better costumes, better special effects.
so to succeed as a clown as an imp? you have to be very, very good. the pressure is always on, which leads me to -
o3. you're simply the best
when you're working with a deck that's not nearly as stacked as everyone else's, you have to be on top of your fucking game, no questions. the reason fizzarolli wins that contest every year, the reason why he's the face of mammon's brand, is because he's so utterly charismatic - a real showman. magic and pyrotechnics may get you some fancy spectacle, but there's no replacement for being an absolute fucking delight with a killer joke and banger music and a natural rapport with the crowd.
it's why, even if blitz wasn't as skilled as fizz - or at least TOLD he wasn't - his acrobatic skills are above and beyond. those circus instincts come in handy on a daily basis - he has to be quick thinking, fast on his feet, able to improv and roll with the punches, able to distract someone with patter and banter, and yeah - he needs some Sick Flips.
he holds a little shame that he never really pursued a clowning career, mostly because it was such a fundamental part of his life for the entirety of his formative years. he didn't LOVE it - in fact, he was deeply disillusioned by first his father and then mammon - and it only got worse as he got older, but we see on screen how much the idea of performing can send him into a spiral - and how much it means to him if he succeeds.
when you can hold your own against people you're told are better than you, it means a hell of a lot - it's a source of pride, a way to make a life, and an unwitting tradition among some circles of imps.
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1, 2 (you know who this is about), 3, 6, 7, 8, 16, 19, 23, 25 for the voiolence ask game :333
17 (Strinker), 23, 24 (Vox), and 25 (Stolas) for the other fandom ask game :333
YAYYYYYY I LOVE ANSWERING THINGS!!!!!!! :DDDDDD thanks babe ily!!!!!!!!! <33333333
violence ask game og post here!
1. the character everyone gets wrong i suffer from a disease called "im the only one with correct opinions about every character ever" so i kind of feel this way about everyone all the time HJKLSDFHJKL.......but maybe its just bc im so Him For Real, but i feel it a lot with blitzo????? i feel like hes the character where i see the most takes about him that i fundamentally disagree with. it doesnt help that his character writing is so shitty tho.
2. a compelling argument for why your fave would never top or bottom I DO KNOW EXACTLY WHO ITS ABOUT. BLITZO. sjhkdfhjksdf kind of ties into the thing i said above and not EXACLTY what the question is asking but. that man is a SUB. i am being so so serious when i say that everyone who thinks he is/writes him as a dom and/or top doesnt understand him as a character. its partially bc stolitz's writing is so godawful, but like. its not even. subtext??? that this man is a sub/bottom??? its just text. its so obvious that they basically say it. YES he ACTS like a dom thats the FUCKING POINT. HES LYING. hes putting on an act and YOU ALL FELL FOR IT. this man is not emotionally vulnerable enough to let himself indulge in the side of kink/sex that he wants, so he never does. especially since stolas only wants him when hes acting like a top/dom. blitz rolls his eyes and drags his feet in sex because hes not getting anything out of it. again it doesnt help that he doesnt LIKE stolas but he would LIKE HIM MORE if they were on the same page in bed. AND LIKE??? the reason i say its not even subtext is because this is a preference blitz obviously has since SEASON ONE (see: STRIKER), but as stolitz develops romantically in canon, we can see stolas indulging him more. the only time blitz has EVER been aroused on screen is when stolas (and striker) is taking control. the one other time you could argue is at the end of truth seekers where AGAIN they practically STATE that hes not by showing that blitz is only acting this way in the bedroom for stolas. hsjkdfhjksdf if i keep talking about this im gonna start foaming at the mouth I HAVE TO MOVE ON
3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr LMAO SJKDFLHJKSDFL there are too many. some of my (least) favorites include takes such as "stolas is introduced as a good father", "blitzker is more toxic than stolitz", and "husk is in the wrong during loser, baby". you are all so fucking stupid. i hope you get well soon
6. which ship fans are the most annoying? RADIOAPPLE. they are SO FUCKING ANNOYING. I HATE THEM. its one thing to have the worst shipping take ever but then theyre always the loudest and most un-based motherfuckers in the world. nothing quite makes me seethe with rage the way seeing that fuckass ship appear in EVERY TAG does. go on try it. look in any hellaverse tag right now and scroll 3 times. i guarantee radioapple will come up. i know because i HAVE THE TAG BLOCKED.
7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because of how the fandom acts about them? alastor :( i mean i knew it was coming. i LOVE LOVE LOVE our rewrite/""yarnsnake"" alastor so much but canon and ESPECIALLY fanon alastor is so fucking boring. they took out any intimidation from his character at all and made him just another guy who swears every 3 seconds and that only exists to be o.p and give cringey quips. and the fandom LOVES that for some reason?? as if the SHOW hasnt toned him down enough, all the fans either turn him into this weirdly sexualized dom character or this cutesy villain with a secret soft side and UUGHHHHJKSDFHJK SHUT THE FUCK UP. he would not fucking say that!!!!!!!!!
8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about OOOHHH this is a good one. umm......kind of ties into the above answer, but i genuinely keep seeing people saying that they think alastor is gonna get a redemption arc/saying that he has a secret "good" side and loves the people at the hotel. yall. youre being manipulated HJKLSDFHJKLHJK. i see a lot of "lute was in love with adam" and vise versa too which. idk. its fine. im sure itll probably be canon. but im too obsessed with them being close friends with benefits that play cod together and otherwise have no attachments LMAOSHDJKFLHSDJKL. there are for sure more but im blanking, might revisit this later
16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc) ANOTHER REALLY GOOD ONE. stolitz instantly came to mind HJKSDLFHJKL just the whole ship. specifically the arc in the show. also huskerdust? not the ship itself but the characterization. its the same flavor of evil that stolitz is just without the power imbalance. vivzie wants sexual assault in all of her leading ships soooo badddd. i hate the fandom take (loosely based on canon) of husk being ""into it"" the whole time angel was harassing him. makes me fuckin GAG.
19. youre mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like... STOLITZ BEING CHILDHOOD FRIENDS. omg critics usually HATTTTEEEE this shit!!!!!! and i totally see where theyre coming from. ""the circus"" was OBVIOUSLY just meant to humanize stolas/shift the ""blame"" onto blitz instead by making it seem like he initiated it/made stolas think he wanted this (which doesnt make it right but wtever). and the childhood friends (if you can even call them friends) IS so nothing......but im such a sucker for this trope. i actually think its really cute. IDKKKK i think it ties into how i genuinely think that stolitz couldve been good if they had lead with this. since he started off as a villain and had a very rocky transition into being """not a villain""" despite still being horrifically evil, the show is stuck in this weird place of trying to TELL us that stolas is good and worthy of redemption while SHOWING us that hes not. if he was a villain at the start, they shouldve stuck to their guns and kept him that way. if they wanted him and blitz to have a romance, then they shoudlnt have fucking started the show like this. its too late to go back and fix it and the circus is a very clear showing of them trying and failing to do so.....AND YET. i still think its sweet. it makes me yearn for a show where they remeet as adults and start reforming a FRIENDSHIP instead of a weird sex deal. it wouldve actually been cute and compelling to see them observe how the world has hardened and changed the other and finding out that they still love each other despite it. how they both were so deply hurt by the circumstances and yet still managed to grow in a way that left room for the other. AUGHHHHHH. << ripping my hair out
23. ship that youve unwillingly come around to sighhh. stolitz and huskerdust. <///////3 but ONLY our very specific rewrites of them. also honeymoon??? i was really NOT convinced about them at first just cause i didnt like bee but idk, ive changed my tune a little <3333 honestly ive kinda willingly come around for everyship JSDJHKF like chaggie/fallenstar??? CUTE. exceedingly boring in canon but cute.
25. common fandom complaint that youre sick of hearing i guess i dont really get that sick of fandom complaints......at least i cant think of many off the top of my head......this kind of goes for all fandoms but im very sick of hearing "UGH can everyone stop saying (insane take) 🙄" and the take is just something that no one has ever said. like one person has a sort of lukewarm opinion and 300+ people have to make a post bitching about it like its a real problem that exists. it doesnt. calm down.
fandom ask game og post here!
17. What's a book, movie, or show you think [Striker] would like? OOOHHHHH...........damn this is hard......i cant get into his head as easily as you (presumably) can.......shkdjfhjksdf he kinda strikes me as someone who would be a little snobby about literature tbh. he likes the classics <333 maybe especially classic horror <333 phantom of the opera came to mind which i think is fitting cause weve also established hes a musical theater guy <33333
23. Has your favorite character/ship changed over time? OH yea. i remember back in the Early Hazbin Days my fave was angel dust and my favorite ship was radiodust. i was thirteen so im gonna give myself a little slack here but i still shudder when i think about it JHKHSFJKHJK. now my fave hazbin character is probably vox or rosie <3 and my favorite ship is polyvees!!!! they are so evil polycule. to me. as for helluva, back in the day when i genuinely like the show it was only just starting out. i think my favorite character was robofizz? which is so funny now that ive got a user based on him JHKSDFHJKHJKSDF he is so nothing now </////3 i DID like stolitz but TO BE FAIR. that was in its crackship era. like when we were all like "imagine if they started getting serious about this LOL wouldnt that be hilarious". (it was not hilarious). now my favorite character is STRIKER by a MILEEEE. and my fave ship is blitzker/rewritten stolitz!! <333
24. What's your favorite thing about [Vox]? well. he gets Christian Borle points. we only hatewatched this show in the first place for His Voice. but i do also just really like his general little mannerisms :3 i like how he glitches when he gets flustered/overwhelmed, and how his smile raises and falls depending on who hes with/around. i actually think his body language is really interesting and fun to analyze!!! manipulative little shit. i hope he overheats and explodes
25. What's your least favourite thing [Stolas] said or did? where do i fucking start. there are so many things about this fucker i cant stand. the one that always comes to mind is the interaction at the beginning of LooLooLand. TWO things he says are SO YUCKY GROSS SLIMEY. these lines:
i hate that blitz had to ask. it makes me feel so gross. i know this was still stolas' villain era but it genuinely icks me out SO MUCH seeing how MISERABLE blitz is early on in their relationship. he is so desperate for this job that he would put up with being sexually assaulted/humiliated in public. im so sorry blitzy, one day soon youll find a cowboy who treats you right :///// the other one (from the same scene) that i HATTTEEE is this interaction with via he has right before
Stolas: I'll pay you.~
Blitzo: ...Pay me what?
Stolas: Money.~
WHY. WOULD YOU SAY THAT. TO YOUR UNDERAGE DAUGHTER. and hes so confused when she doesnt like him?? :/// this isnt even mentioning that he openly, sexually flirts with blitz in front of her both on the phone immediately afterwards and all day at the park. i think he should die for real actually. a few honorable mentions include the infamous murder family phone call, assaulting his imp butler, neglecting his daughter, and (intentionally or not) implying that he only wants blitz for sex post-ozzies.
Stolas: They want our money and our bodies.
Octavia: Our money, maybe...
Stolas: Speak for yourself, princess.
THAT TOOK SO LONG IM SORRYYYYYYYYYYYY I HOPE YOU HAVE FUN READING ALL THESE THANKS FOR ASKINGGG :DDDDDDDDD MWMEMWEMWMEWMWEM <33333
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Piano Demon Headcanons (4)
Blitz sometimes has to tail behind him due to business. The others join as well but mostly it's just him.
Yeah, he totally isn't constantly on the verge of a nervous breakdown at all. Nope! Right as rain!
Definitely doesn't feel like he's always walking on pins and needles with whatever he says or does. No siree!
Typically he's there if The Piano Demon wants a quick trip to the living world and plans to take Blitz with him. No one has any idea what the reindeer does or why he insists on taking Blitz but they're too scared to ask, especially Blitz himself.
Other times it's to ward off pesky demons in his vacinity. The Piano Demon doesn't care much for having claimed territories around Hell so he'll have Blitz and his workers take care of any nuisances. He equips them with angel weapons but orders only to use them for warnings unless the situation is dire. He may also ask Blitz to do this as a protective measure for Alastor in particular if it's important to him.
Not that he needs it. But Blitz keeps his mouth shut.
As a result, Blitz ends up spending a good chunk of his time with the two Overlords. Sometimes he'll be left alone with Alastor, other times the two are going on a walk when they aren't busy. Blitz will post to his social media as a way to cope with the intense atomosphere that comes from being around them.
At times he'll include Alastor in his high jinks.
Alastor is not amused.
The Piano Demon is actually a very considerate and rational boss. Blitz can't even recall a time he's yelled at him. Overall very mannered and kind, doesn't talk down to him.
He might scold him over the phone for fooling around on social media too often or causing Alastor trouble. But he never raises his voice. Ultimately doesn't try to restrict what he chooses to do unless it conflicts with a schedule or distracts him from something. Otherwise he's allowed to do what he wants.
It may sound weird but that's where most of Blitz's fear of the guy comes from. It is so hard to tell what he's thinking and what sets him off. He's so eerily calm and soft spoken. For all he knows, he could say or do one wrong thing and it could mean literal Hell for him. The anticipation drives him up the wall!
Rosie will sometimes place her hat on the reindeer's head from behind as a way to say hello and tease him.
"Good evening to you as well, Rosie."
Rosie always giggles at his monotone response, "That's a good look for you, love."
"I appreciate the compliment. Now take it off."
Rosie tends to act a bit motherly towards him. Knowing from the things Alastor has told her, he has a bad habit of focusing all his attention towards his piano practice to the point of self neglect.
"Did you get a good night's rest, dear?"
"I just need to finish this sheet-"
"Go lay down."
"Rosie, I am not a child. I can decide for myself-"
"Go lay down."
The Piano Demon will often ignore her until she leaves. That doesn't mean she won't pester him about other things, though. She might bring in some food for him to make sure he eats.
"I can decide for myself when-"
"Hush and adjust your mask."
He's very good at cleaning himself, believe it or not. He can't stand sitting around without bathing at least once a day. It's the one thing he gets up for on a regular basis. It's why he always looks so well groomed and dressed despite the hours he spends glued to his piano.
A common compliment he gets is how good he smells all the time. Alastor is no exception.
(Heard it was canon that Alastor doesn't shower and if that is indeed the case):
The Piano Demon will not stand for this incompentence. There is a lot of things he will tolerate with Alastor but terrible hygiene is not one of them.
Alastor will be taken in kicking and screaming as he forces him into the bath and begins scrubbing away. He'll have to use some of his powers to keep The Radio Demon from springing out of the bath and running.
He doubles down on shampoo. No, just no. Clean hair will be a thing even if he has to battle all of Hell and Heaven for it.
You know Alastor has the boundary concerning his ears so you can imagine how fussy he is during this particular part.
Let's not forget his teeth. Oh, dear. If this was anyone else, Alastor would've bitten their hands off for even attempting to do this.
But yeah, the reindeer shows no mercy in getting every nook and cranny of his mouth squeaky clean. You should see how fast The Piano Demon's arms move while brushing them. It's insane.
Alastor's clothes? Yeah, no. They're getting incinerated. They're gone.
He'll create a fresh pair for him. He knows Alastor will take it because he made them. (Yes from scratch. He's good at it.)
Alastor is always grumpy after being washed and will glare at him the whole time while being dried off. He'll sit still as he grabs the hair dryer and brush since he actually enjoys that part. He can do without the noise, though.
The Piano Demon will have him switch to pajamas and sit on the bed after he's done.
He will then grab something for his nails. Yup, they're doing those, too. He may not like "glowing" his own up himself but he's learned a lot from watching Stolas during their sleepovers. He doesn't really need it himself. (Because he regurarly cares for them already, hint hint.)
Alastor will grumble things under his breath as he gets to work but ultimately just waits for it to be over.
This will have Alastor be held accountable every time after the fact.
Alastor wants to lean on his shoulder or wants any form of contact?
"Did you clean yourself today?"
"........"
He walks away.
"Darling, wait!"
"I will not so much as hold your hand until you've showered."
Yeah, let's just say forced bathing is common for Alastor.
However, being able to hold his beloved at all is a great motivator for him to take intiative and do it himself. Occasionally.
Usually after three weeks of zero physical affection.
Other than that it's up to The Piano Demon to drag him into the bathroom.
"Bitch DISGUSTANG!!!!" - Angel Dust, after learning this fact about Alastor.
You know Angel is going to make snide remarks to him about it now. For example: The group is out on a task and hears an unholy screech in the distance?
"Damn. What the fuck was that? Sounds like Alastor during bath time."
"I highly suggest you sleep with one eye open tonight, my good fellow."
The Piano Demon is known to sleep in odd places. People are baffled by how he seems to just pop up in random places, fast asleep. He could go unnoticed for hours until someone jumps up and points out his unconcious body, wondering how long he's been there.
He doesn't snore at all.
Sometimes Alastor will be looking for him, lift his grand piano, and find him laying blissfully inside of it. The Radio Demon will smile and close it back so not to disturb him.
"Hey, Al, can you-"
"Quiet, my beloved is sleeping." Alastor will snap at the person, carressing the piano tenderly.
Everyone is thoroughly confused.
Like I said, the reindeer rarely sleeps so Alastor is ready to brutally torture anyone that causes him distress.
The Piano Demon hates children.
He would not be cruel to one if he ever encounters them.
But he would keep his distance and wouldn't feel anything for them.
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Piano Demon Headcanons (1)
Rarely does anything aside from practicing piano. Is often found glued to his instrument and doesn't make eye contact when spoken to.
Very reclusive. Prefers to be left alone 99.9% of the time. He really enjoys quiet time with his music.
Really invested in musical theory. If someone were to start speaking to him about melody, rhythm, counterpoint, harmony, form, tonal systems, scales, tuning, intervals, consonance, dissonance, etc, he would listen very intently. He'd barely say a word as the person is speaking but take in every aspect of the conversation. It's the quickest way to get him to pay attention to you, as he usually doesn't enjoy talking to others.
If you're lucky and I mean really lucky, he'll become extremely talkative and start going off about how music can enrich everything in life if used correctly. He would offer his two cents on musical theory and start going deep on what works, what doesn't, how it can effect others' moods, etc. While you may be lucky to get him to talk like this, you won't be so lucky with getting him to stop once he's started. I hope you're just as passionate as he is because buckle up sugar, you're gonna be there awhile. Alastor has seen this side of him and finds it adorable. Honestly, it's in those moments where their bond really comes to the forefront. Many view their relationship as cold and distant due to The Piano Demon's personality. But behind closed doors and when The Piano Demon rarely opens up, Alastor and him couldn't be more in sync. Often cutting each other off or finishing the other's sentence when discussing music, having epiphanies at the same time that just escalates their passion. Every instance this occurs, Alastor falls even more in love with him. Granted, he's as stoic as ever, there's no changing that. But he wouldn't have it any other way.
Tea is his favorite thing to drink. He'll pretty much take whatever you give him but he prefers it to be hot.
Isn't a fan of alcohol. Could drink the hardest of liquor and be completely underwhelmed. He just dislikes the taste.
He is a lover of Jazz and Swing.
He adores chocolate truffles. He mentioned he liked them once very casually and Alastor showered him with them. He may not care for sweets himself but that doesn't mean he won't buy them for his Darling!
He very much enjoys spicy food. Do not ask to have a bite from his plate unless you want your jaw to melt off. He is willing to share but he is one of those people who eats the equivalant of the sun, looks you in the eye and says "This? This isn't even hot."
He knows how to cook. When Alastor can actually rip him away from the piano, they often cook together and sit with one another for dinner. It's a very good bonding experience for the both of them. Though again, it is a rare occurance. Getting that man away from the piano is nearly impossible.
He dislikes loud noises and loud people.
He's often told he chose the wrong spouse, then.
He dislikes any physical activity that is exhausting, especially dancing.
He dislikes being touched. He is fine with Alastor hugging him or linking their arms together. He is also fine with others showing him affection if they ask for it and are close to him. Though touch is something he mostly can do without.
He severely dislikes Rap and Hiphop. He believes all music should be respected but if asked, he'll criticize it very harshly.
Social gatherings are his kryptonite. He'll omniously stand in a dark corner if he is forced to go to a party if he can't find a piano he can glue himself to.
He dislikes his Overlord status. When asked why, he'll simply answer that he loves music. It is believed that he does not concern himself with doing things out of ego and distants himself from the others.
He dislikes arrogance.
He dislikes sleeping. Evidenced by his constant practice and performances.
"Dear, are you sure you're getting enough rest?"
"I occasionally close my eyes when I sneeze."
If he is not able to practice his music, he becomes agitated.
He does not like to be interrupted. If he is, he'll let the person finish but will be very annoyed afterwards.
He has a very positive relationship with Rosie. They share lunches together and chat on their off time.
Mimzy sometimes joins him for a walk or to think about the old days.
Though Charlie's enthusiastic nature is a bit much for him, they get along rather well. He likes her appreciation for music and will instruct her if she asks for tips.
Husk can actually sit down and talk to him. Most of it is just ranting and drunk grumbles but still a conversation. He can actually relax around The Piano Demon. He creeps Husk out a lot, with the mask and barely saying a word. But he doesn't piss him off which is refreshing. Husk would even says he likes the guy.
Mainly because he's very different from Alastor and other Overlords in a lot of ways. He will often scold Alastor if he tries to mess with him and treats him with respect. Alastor barely pushes his buttons when he's around. Husk is more likely to listen to him because of this. Not by much but it's something.
Niffty adores him. She'll often bounce around him while he walks or ride on his shoulders. The Piano Demon will sometimes read while she cleans to keep an eye on her. She loves the sound of his voice! If Niffty finds the time, she'll sit beside him as he practices and will listen quietly, kicking her feet.
Stolas is good friends with him. He will request his company at random times when he gets lonely. Stolas can get really flirty a lot of the time. Though he respects his boundaries. While The Piano Demon can do without the advances, he does enjoy the time he spends with him. Though he constantly has to reel in Alastor's jealous temper whenever he so much as mentions the prince.
The Piano Demon has access to the living world.
He, Alastor, and Mimzy knew each other when they were alive.
The Piano Demon and Lucifer have an odd relationship that even Alastor doesn't know the full extent of. It is implied they hold conversations in a void where no one else can hear them. What do they talk about? One can only speculate.
Only Alastor has seen his real face. No, he will not be providing details.
He is open to modern technology. He owns a smart phone that his underlings at the I.M.P company gifted to him. He mostly uses it for business, though.
Blitz calls him "Boss-Man" despite it being techinically incorrect. He's scared to death of him.
His cause of death is unkown.
He is indifferent to Vox and Alastor's chaos and rivalry, including Vox himself. They could be destroying a city behind him while bickering and he'd just sip his morning coffee while looking over his piano sheets.
The nature of his and Vox's relationship is odd. Vox despises his lover and causes him trouble yet the guy has literally zero reaction to his presence. Even Vox is perplexed on their dynamic. All in all, they're neutral to each other.
He would create a social media account out of curiousity. However, he is busy a lot of the time so he wouldn't manage it very well.
Would converse in a group chat with other Hotel residents, though. The others would tease him for being an old man for refusing to use anything other than proper grammar and puncuation.
Is known for roasting people's entire souls without knowing what "roasting" is. He'd probably respond by saying he does not eat other sinners and everyone would die laughing.
Him and Alastor have a relationship like Gomez and Morticia. Though he isn't very outwardly affectionate, Alastor is able to pick up on the sudtlies of his behavoir and react accordingly. Even if to outside viewers his feelings appear to be unreciprocated and delusional.
He is not fond of Alastor's dad jokes.
Alastor will often tease him with some just to get a laugh.
This may or may not end well in The Radio Demon's favor.
He is the only one who can reel in Alastor's chaotic impusles.
"Alastor, no-"
Is a very common thing to hear. Only difference with him is Alastor actually listens. ....Most of the time.
When he doesn't? The Piano Demon can at least convince him to stop before things get too messy.
He can play multiple instruments but sticks to the piano.
He is also asexual.
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