#ai art is unethical

[opal-sparks]

If I see one more AI art chud try to compare hating AI art to transphobia, I'm going to pop a vessel. Don't you ever fucking try to come to me with that horse shit. Nobody is actively trying to take your rights because you type prompts. Nobody is actively trying to murder you because you type prompts. Nobody is trying to demand you show your genitals because you type prompts. Nobody is calling your parents child abusers because they support you typing prompts*. You are not actively in danger every day because you type prompts! You do not get to pull the transphobia card to try to defend your stance on AI art. I am nonbinary. I am an artist. Which of the two things do you think I was told to kill myself for? I'll give you a hint; It's not my fucking hobby.

Art is from Pride Month 2022. To grab more attention to this post. *I don't know about other states, but in the state of Texas, it is considered child abuse for parents to support their trans kids. My cousin was not 18 yet when this became a thing, and he had to hide his trans identity irl until he turned 18.

[madiroller]

Coca-Cola used Ai for one of its Christmas commercials this year. Treat them with this response.

Normalize this response

[shiraishi--kanade]

[ultravioart]

The hangyu fan design stealing was disproven, but this Mega Delphox design that predates Palworld absolutely was lifted from a fandesign to make the Pal Wixen.

I will not be reposting the artists fan design, please click the link and give eyes/credit to the original fanartist!

Pyroaura98/EtherealHaze made this Mega Delphox fan design art prior to 2014, but this post was made in 2014. Either way it predates Palworld (announced 2021).

And this is the Pal design Wixen

Many fan made megas for Delphox include a hat, but Wixen is obviously taking from the design EtherealHaze made because:

-The red hair strands flow into the red hat, a very unique/distinct design element of the EtherealHaze's fan design.

-The red hat incorporates the ears into it as red, just like EtherealHaze's design (most other fan designs for mega delphox leave the ears seperate and a different color)

-The orange triangle chest fur.

-The white paws INSIDE the 3d red sleeve holes, just like EtherealHaze's design.

And for reference, this the official Pokemon Delphox: note no 3d sleeve holes and black paws.

It is unethical for larger companies like Pocketpair to use designs from smaller artists without consent and compensation.

TemTem received legal permission for the viral fakemon platypus line from the original artist.

Palworld did not receive legal permission for the fanmade Mega Delphox design.

Just to make it clear, Pokemon themselves have made parody designs of other series monsters, and in the monster taming genre MANY games parody eachother, so I don't think Palworld parodying official Pokemon is inherently bad. It also is pretty much impossible to financially damage Pokemon with parody as Pokemon is one of the richest IPs in the world.

However, Palworld making parody of small artist's fanmon designs without consent and compensation is not ethical.

Pocketpair is a larger company taking from someone who cannot legally fight back. Pokemon can sue Palworld if it really is an issue for Pokemon, but EtherealHaze cannot do so with the same ease because good lawyers are extremely expensive, and the legal battle can be very time consuming and stressful for just one person.

TDLR; This post is meant to inform consumers about the products, I am not defending Pokemon nor Palworld nor TemTem, only aiming to inform about practices I feel are unjust. Palworld devs lifting from fan made fakemon without legal consent and compensation is unethical. If you still wish to play Palworld, please consider pirating Palworld instead of purchasing/playing online (release sales and online player numbers are used to get investors for the company/game).

Additional issues with Pocketpair's behavior towards AI and NFTs:

Pocketpair has previously published a party game that hosts an unethical generative ai art model. And no you are not 'spotting the ai art vs hand drawn art'-- that is disinformation.

In this party game every player during a round uses ai to generate images based on a given theme, except one imposter player that has to guess the theme. Then the group tries to guess which ai image was created with the imposter prompt. This game profits off of hosting an unethical generative ai image model.

Why is this generative ai model unethical?

Generative ai image models like Stable Diffusion, Midjourney, etc, are trained on open web data (scrubbing the entire internet, uses private info/copyright/NSFL content -- article linked discussing what kind of illegal NSFL content Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, etc has been trained on. Images of warcrimes also are used in such datasets.)

This is absolutely unacceptable and should not be supported. Datasets can absolutely be made without illegal content, truely twisted people were unwilling to make ethical datasets with legal free to use images.

Also in general, big generative ai model dev (be it text, image, etc) is notorious for abusing workers. It often exposes grossly underpaid employees to traumatic materials with no proper mental health care. Link. You can read many articles about this issue online. For reference, government intelligence workers have therapy for the traumatic content they view, so even if its ai generated, constant exposure to traumatic content is not to be taken lightly. Workers are real people.

Additionally, Pocketpair social medias have flirted with NFTs, and the CEO of Pocketpair is a founder of a cryptocurrency company called Coincheck. NFTs are scams (you purchase the receipt, not the actual item, and all NFTs loose monetary value) and if that wasn't bad enough, NFTs, Crypto, and in general Blockchain infrastructure waste a shiton of resources via proof-of-work processing, you might as well be pissing oil into the ocean. Link. That is not ethical.

It does not appear that the game Palworld itself uses unethical ai, nor has it stolen actual pokemon 3d model topology, BUT the EtherealHaze fakemon design has been lifted from without legal consent, which is enough for me to drop the game. Furthermore, I cannot trust Pocketpair as a company to not introduce unethical ai and NFTs into Palworld in the future, due to the company's past behavior.

Whether you continue to play Palworld is up to you, but as I said before, please consider pirating the game instead of purchasing or playing online, since the stats can be used to get investors for the Pocketpair company/Palworld game.

[venacoeurva]

People using voice AIs to make songs and whatnot. You weaklings, develop and foster actual skills not based around commodifying actors and artists into soulless imitations, without their consent or compensation for them no less, and learn to remix and sample official lines like memes of old for yours or so help me

[cuppajj]

If I can't find a character ai of any of your ocs, am going to combust

Please don't? I don't want any of my ocs in any sort of ai, especially without my consent. I think it's great that there are none, because these characters are mine and I should decide if they can just be lent out like that. If you want character interaction then you should wait for an rp blog or an ask box event where you're asking the characters instead. Character AI of my ocs is not fun to think about.

[nitzeart]

This generative AI era is genuinely worsening my depression. It's no joke worsening my suicideal thoughts I've struggled with for years but this is making it worse. And not just for the art, because every company seems to want to implement it without proper safety and mindfulness. It's like everyone sending people to space but rushing it cause of nationalistic competition, and a bunch of people ended up dead. It's governments using nuclear knowledge to make nuclear bombs instead of nuclear plants. It's companies rushing to make glowing radium clocks without understanding it was toxic for the manufacturers. It is people rushing to use unproven, new medicines with faulty safety research.

I am so discouraged from making art, even for myself, because community is part of art and without the internet I have no art community. I try to be positive in the face of the world getting worse, but it's so hard. Everywhere I look, personal, locally or globally, everything is bad!

[corvidcrowned]

Nap

[memorypuppyxx]

[iwant-bread]

seeing how the ai art tag is trending and blocking everyone who is posting their loot

[gayestcowboy]

i’m tired of the ai generated gay sex cats i don’t want to keep seeing them everywhere i’m sure it’s very funny and i’m sure there’s lots of theoretical ethics discussions to be had about it but have you considered. i don’t care

[spitblaze]

I will once again state for the record that my issues with generative AI begin when money starts changing hands or individual artists are materially affected by the output of prompt jockeys (impersonation, etc) and I don't consider use of it otherwise to be a huge deal.

Lizard Brain gets jumpy about the idea of creative output being outsourced to machines but like. until neural nets become ACTUALLY intelligent, Smart Brain knows that there's no real replacement for a human being who can make real revisions and critique and adjustments and deliberate choices instead of an algorithm that places pixels down based on the data in its training set.

[nerdylizard5]

Random thought of the day: Amaram from The Stormlight Archive is the sort of character who would use and praise AI image generation and claim it as his own artwork

[116t98]

Sweet! Completely authentic and good fan art for my favorite show, Bridgeriton Brdd?ton Bpi?erton Bridgerton!

[thiscatiscreepy]

Genuinely curious as to why vehement anti-AI people think that it's okay for a ""real"" artist to look at other people's works for inspiration but looking at AI generated pictures (which are a collage of ""real"" artists' work) for inspiration is bad and rots your brain.

[starlene]

Drats! Foiled by AI art again!