#ai art controversy

[91vaults]

Because why the hell would someone who is actually trained/can draw spend all that time wrangling something out of the bot instead of just…drawing it themselves?

The prompters are always going on about the amount of time tuning and post adjustments they have to do to get decent final image. That’s a lot of time you could spend just drawing or practicing your skills. We’re all short of time as it is and you have to choose where you put it. (I make the distinction between that and using an AI for a composition/color pallet/ start for your work)

[tickhectic]

:3👍 This

I think you should legally disclose if something is ai just like how you legally have to disclose if something is an ad

[convergeai]

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[mamamittens]

Concerning the recent Sora Open AI thing...

I wonder how long it took to curate the videos that look pretty damn passable. How massive must their library be to get enough video to make a convincing old man. Who is in that video? Is it actually a real AI video or more akin to a video game cutscene?

There's absolutely a concern that should be more seriously taken into account here about such batshit AI art but I can't help but wonder if it'll end up like ChatGP where the server space required can no longer justify the cost of operating it for free like it needs to get that much source material.

There is a fascinating question about how far AI can go in this endeavor before it looks exactly like real life. But apparently no one running the damn thing is concerned about people with ulterior motives utilizing their programs. The deep fake porn and falsified crimes that will inevitably occur.

I'll be interested in seeing how deep the legal protections go if such things wind up in court. There's already precedence with actor portrayals concerning real life people and events. And with all that invested money I have a hard time imagining it going without some challenge.

Oh wait. It already is with the Taylor Swift porn. Blizzard smacked down on porn artists to protect their IP. I can't imagine how complicated AI law is going to get to at least passably protect people from more harmful content produced with their likeness. I wonder if they'll end up with a sort of digital watermark to protect them from legal action...

I suppose all I can do is wait and see. And perhaps revisit glaze and nightshade (was it?) to protect myself. Should have done it sooner but still.

[goblincrowe]

Okay the more I look into the art world as it is (trying to learn how to make money, let's gooooo) the more I realize that AI art... Really isn't taking anyone out of business anymore than any other form of automation is.

There was one video that described the ai art situation to the automation of lace making. The automation took a lot of people out of work- but later that day I saw a video of someone hand making her own lace that was apparently going on display in a museum. I did more research and handmade lace is still Super Expensive.

It made me realize- artists who are truly passionate are going to exist no matter what. Clothes are another good example! Shops like shien and temu exist but you can still find Tons of handmade clothes online, and people selling them making a comfortable living.

Art for arts sake is far more lucrative- because you keep finding new ways to grow and innovate. I think the main thing that AI art is doing to hurt the art world is making digital artists doubt themselves.

AI art doesn't have a lot of things that handmade art has. The little mistakes and sketchy style, the struggle to grow that you can almost taste. I don't know, maybe it's just blind optimism but I think that it's gonna be okay.

[91vaults]

Ok I'm gonna lead with the sympathy...

Look I totally get feeling lost and a disappointed, feeling like you can't do anything and have nothing to offer. I get it. I've been there myself

and you found a fun hobby. I detest AI art for all the reasons but i get it people get something out of text prompting. If they didn't there wouldn't be such an influx of people getting into it. I've tried it, its a fun novelty (for like an hour or so) and getting what out of the bot gives you that dopamine hit. People think their prompts are a skill...whatever, you do you

BUT what you found was a shortcut. A shortcut to having and honing a skill. A shortcut that gave you a quick rush. You pumped out art and posted it and got the accolades and yeah that feels good.And holy shit you got offered a job and the temptation was too great to pass up. And you fucking lied.

If you were content with creating with AI you would have been upfront about it, but you weren't because it wasn't about making stuff with AI. You lied because you wanted to be a skilled "artist" without the work. Thats the difference between being an AI creator and using it as a shortcut

I can respect people who are open about the fact what they make is done with AI (even if I feel weird about the ethics of using it in the first place) but this is truly pathetic...and again I get it, but taking shortcuts like this or tracing and claiming it as ones own is never the way out of feeling like a failure. It only gives a quick rush and then you're found out...

and you just got found out

and you deserve to lose your job.

My advice in the future (I mean yeah she's not reading this but still) is to pick a goal and try to work towards it, and most importantly identify the issues holding you back and try to tackle those.

Because there is no shortcut to making it out of a rut. All the MLM's scammy "courses" run by grifters and pesudo inspirational "business" instagram accounts are evidence of this.

There's probably stuff they can do to weed this kind of thing out. Really scrutinize someones portfolio for a consistent style and other "tells" of AI art (which is still possible at this stage). Ask about their process and the tools they use, heck even request a live demo..which isn't great for artists and would only be employed by companies willing to go to the effort.

It will be very interesting to see if similar situations arise in the future. Companies will likely be perfectly happy to hire a "prompt engineer" but if they find they can't meet business needs then maybe after some time saying you use AI will be a major turn off

methinks the most realistic situation is companies wanting quality work will look for someone with an artistic background who also has experience with generation (the hot new thing!) the "skills" of a prompt engineer as they are now may not be sufficient

but hey, there's also plenty of places willing to pay extra cheap for "good enough" so we'll see,

this gives me unbridled joy

look at this idiot getting an actual job at a studio because of their AI generated images lmao while actual artists struggle for years to get seen let alone get work

and now they don't know what to do cos they're not an actual artist xD

this moron is getting exactly what they signed up for

edit to say for a moment i thought i should feel sorry for her but you know what? nah. she knew exactly what she was doing. she lied when she uploaded the images, she knew she was getting the job because she lied. and then she continued to lie even further. so no. not feeling sorry for a lazy stupid fraud getting caught in her lies.

i also question the competence of the studio people tbh cos how blind are they to not see her stuff was made by an AI?

[makiruz]

You guys are so stupid

[arandomassortmentofbytes]

"Images generated by Midjourney and other AI text-to-image tools are not protected by US copyright law since they "are not the product of human authorship", according to the nation's Copyright Office.

Last September, the USCO approved an application for Zarya Of The Dawn, a graphic novel created by Kristina Kashtanova, registering the work as intellectual property protected by copyright. The decision reinvigorated the legal debate over whether digital artwork created by the latest AI text-to-image tools could be copyrighted or not.

However, the USCO has reversed its initial decision and scrapped the copyright certificate previously issued for Kashtanova's comic book. After reviewing the case officials ruled that the text, selection, coordination, and arrangement of images used to create the novel are the work of Kashtanova and can be protected by copyright – but the individual software-generated images themselves cannot be."

- The Register, 24 Feb 2023

The full copyright decision is available here: PDF.

[half-asleep-artist]

So I heard a bit about this controversy about someone who was doing Ai art and posted this girl with a cat. So many many artists re-drew this piece in there style or with other characters. And I just thought for fun I’d try it <3

I did this re-draw with teen dazai and sensei the cat :D, hope you all like it.

(If anyone wants to find the original piece try searching “girl with cat in front of face Ai”)

[91vaults]

Jesus christ i did not realise the extent my insta algorithm was filled with “AI artists” and their crap. I even liked one of them…they all use the same generic handle format and have fucking NFT’s in their bio

[bean-counter29]

I can't actually reach out to them because they preemptively blocked me (lol), but let me tell you: finding out that my AI art from earlier this year was more or less blatantly plagiarized was the funniest thing I've seen ALL YEAR.

I don't even care about the tracing or lack of credit! It took me all of 5 seconds to generate this lovely Zelda on the left, I can hardly claim to be it's creator! I'm just laughing my ass off at the whole situation!

Alas, the post has since been deleted. But Phayz/Epicsauce, thanks for making me laugh. No hard feelings here.

Receipts below:

Also, the link to my original post: https://www.tumblr.com/bean-counter29/742809128787951616/cyberpunk-loz-never-fails-to-impress?source=share Note that this was done in February, when Epicsauce's was posted in April.

[convergeai]

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[weaselishmcdiesel]

theres a youtube channel profiting off and lying about ai art and it's pissing me off

@/tendofarms on youtube uses ai art in the thumbnails and videos of their animal crossing compilation videos, claims it to be made by them despite also giving credit to a @/lumasi.png on instagram, who claims it's "a comission." this art is also being sold on merch on the channel's etsy account.

They haven't posted a video in 2 months but to see that they've made money through this scheme really pisses me off. Also the fact that they're attempting to decieve people by creating a fake artist on instagram who posts the ai art. They've attempted to say the art is a blend of original art made in photoshop/illustrator as well as the help of ai art. I dont believe this is true and im going to show your asses why

On their first video, they say

"my normal workflow so far has been to paint backgrounds, then get Ai to help with character design, i bring to photoshop to select my favorites, and put together something from my personal painting combined with my favorite Ai characters. Hope this clears things up :D"

The art in question:

and if you have no issues with it, here are MY issues with it

i'll pretend for a second that this person did make the backgroundand ignore the fucking surreal characters. sure. ok so what the fuck are these details. and also how did the ai manage to match your style so well? it doesnt have a backglog of years of YOUR work, does it?

On another video, they say

"a lot of illustrator/photoshop work went into this art. I used Ai to get ideas for composition and generate some character ideas, still some stuff i wish i improved but i think i got it to a decent final stage. Hope you guys enjoy the art and the mix <3333 love!!!"

the art in question with my notes.

The reason this particular post stands out to me is because in the DESCRIPTION of this video, they say the art was made by @lumasi.png on instagram. So when i go to their account and find this art, i see this

so, ok. was it a commission or did tendyfarms make it using a lot of illustrator/photoshop work. and if they ARE two different people.. wow their styles are so similar thats crazy /sarcastic as fuck

I would also like to point out that @/lumasi.png's first post, one that isnt featured in a tendyfarms video, also reeks of ai.

But maybe this isnt a big issue. Their etsy after all only shows that theyve made 16 sales, and their most popular views sit around 100k views, which probably isnt enough to even earn a stable living from, so who cares.

Just. as someone who listens to a lot of music from youtube mixes/compilations, who also makes art, i feel it's really fucking disrespectful to try and claim art as your own in a space where i go to try and relax or find new musical artists. and it's fucking rampant! i have to check each mix to see if using ai for the art, which i can only really see if i click on the video, giving them a small boost in stats. And if they arent using ai art? theyre probably stealing the art directly from an artist and not giving proper credit. Forget about asking the artist for permission, it's not like countless youtubers have explained how thumbnails are The Most important element of a video. Just go ahead and take someone else's work to give yourself some cash.

I know tumblr users hate generative ai already, but i'd just like to give a little attention to what youtube looks like, and to try and ask for more vigilance, more comments calling out the bullshit. I dont see a lot of comments at all on tendofarm's posts! or any mention of ai can be brushed away with "oh i used ai as well as drawing it myself" :/ you didnt buddy. you just didnt do that.

Idk what the right thing to do is, report their etsy? report their youtube? does either company care? maybe you can tell me

but i should probably say dont harass them. as much as i would like to. just try your best not to give retention to videos that shamelessly and ile about ai. Really look at the videos, really scrutinize if you can spare the time to. thanks

also. is it just me or do the cats in lumasi's pfp and this etsy reviewer's photo look the same. not sure what this could mean. up to you

[moeitsu]

The absolute jump scare I get when I open a fic on Wattpad and immediately get bombarded by AI pictures in between paragraphs…..what happened to just letting people use their imagination….or maybe just describing the scene?! 😭😭

Like, I don’t really mind it if you use AI to make an OC (even though there are tons of free tools you can use that don’t require AI!!) but I noticed in several fics I browsed on Wattpad, that the author was using AI images to show certain settings/backgrounds. Call me an ass but that’s an immediate PASS in my book 🥸

You shouldn’t have a computer generate a scene in your story, just write the damn scene yourself! Or make a mood board! Find pictures on the internet and put them in a collage! Maybe draw it yourself! What!! is!! happening!! to!! creativity!!

AI is going to be the death of us i stg

Not here to stroke my own ego or anything, but I put so much time and effort into writing out a scene and establishing a setting. I dive into all kinds of imagery and descriptions and writing styles to paint a vivid picture for my readers. If i were to stop doing that and just slap an AI picture into my work, It wouldn’t feel like my own! It’s not something I would be proud to post!

[bythehearts]

not to bring tiktok drama on tumblr but like every time a ‘scandal’ comes out with one of these ‘production companies’ that make fan films i always hope we’re finally gonna discuss how they professionalize something that should be an hobbyist endeavor… and yet every single time i’m disappointed.