#adriane yamin

[jadedontaskwhytoo]

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[thinkingaboutfilm11]

in your compalints about the senna series post, you mentioned how his family is very meddling and controlling. what makes them this way, what have they done? i'm not that aware of the the significance of his family and what they may have said and done, in the past and now, cause i'm a newer fan. can you please explain?

heya Anon!

apologies I spent a while sitting on this, ive been so tired lmao and spent all yesterday on animal crossing in bed.

ANYWAY (I will say a TW here for underaged sex)

Yes it is true (i will include sources below) that Ayrton's family have been very meddling in Ayrton's life, and even now, after being dead for thirty years, they still try and exercise control over his media presence and the way he is shown to the world.

The most significant way they meddeled in his life was primarly though who he dated and his romantic life.

It began at 13 years old when Ayrton first had sex with a prostitute who was very much older than himself, he was pushed into it by his older family members, and even Ayrton himself said in a playboy interview that 13 was considered 'late' in his society to loose his virginity, and it was 'difficult at his age'.

Then, later in life Ayrton was 'encouraged' into multiple relationships, primaraly his one and only wife- a senna family friend, Lilian de Vasconcelos. Although it has never officially been reported as an arranged marriage, myself and other people believe so. I think the main giveaway was that Ayrton refused to marry her in a church, under God's witness. With Ayrton being the extreamley religious man that he was, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have wanted God involved in such an important undertaking in his life. The marriage lasted 8 months and Ayrton always did his best to sweep it under the rug, saying in later interviews he was 'too young' and there wasn't 'much love between them'.

Ayrton's rather famous engagement with Adriane Yamin was much the same. Their fathers had been friends for many years, they both worked the factory buisness together. Adriane was often accompanied by her enthusiastic family chaperoning whenever her and Ayrton met. (let it be known that although I do believe ayrton was pushed into this relationship by his family, I still very much believe he also had alot of wrong doing on his part for allowing this to go on, and do not support him at all in it.)

Ayrton finally met adriane Galistou, whome he multiple times said was 'the love of his life' (prosenna aside- I do think he liked her alot because she put up with alot of his BS and was good for him). Ayrton's family very much did NOT like adriane, they recorded all his phonecalls with her, refused to interact with her, and also refused to invite her to his funeral, instead inviting Ayrton's ex from 3 years ago. (absolutley disgusting behaviour if you ask me). I think the way the senna family interacted with Adriane Galistou says alot about Ayrton's past relationships, they felt out of control and paniced that Ayrton was doing something off his own violition, and not their own ideals.

Even back in the 80's people rumoured about Ayrton's homosexuality. Many of his relationships seemed fake on the surface, and many believed that they were 'press' relationships, set up by the family to hide the truth. Most prominantly, Ayrton's friend, assistant and helicopter pilot Americo Jacoto Junior accompanied Ayrton wherever he went abroad until 1985, when Ayrton's father forced Ayrton to fire him as the rumours about their homosexual relationship got too strong.

Ayrtons family as I mentioned are also very very picky about his public image. They refuse to aknowledge many aspects of his life, such as his appuling behaviour towards others on track ect, and will sue any media that they believe does not portray the 'correct' image of Ayrton. Any media discussing Ayrton's homosexuality rumours (that have been ongoing since '85) will recieve a cease and dissist from the Senna family, and any media discussing Galistou's relationship with Ayrton recieves the same treatment. The senna family refuse to even say she exists, going as far as banning filmaker Asif Kapidia from using her in the Senna (2010) documentary, and also the upcoming senna series in Netflix. The biggest critiques of the senna (2010) documentary is how one sided it is, and what a poor job it did at giving a fair overview of the whole situation. Kapidia had ten hours worth of interview with Alain for instance, which he never even touched. Again, I believe this is due to the family. They gave over many hours of home movie footage to the filmakers in return for image control over Ayrton, and to this day it is the only documentary they have willingly helped and given their blessing to.

I dont know what it is that motivates their strange behaviour. An unwillingless to let go perhaps, grief is still very strong amongst them all, I dp believe that it can be hard to grieve when the whole world is watching but still- its not acceptable. Perhaps their religious beliefs also clouds their visions, they are scared about Ayrton's image being ruined and he can't be seen as anything other than 'saintly'. They are meddling and wrong.

If Ayrton was homosexual (which I am not sure if I believe- I do think he was bisexual), if he was planning to marry Galistou, ect, nothing can be done about it now. Ayrton is dead, and has been for thirty years, and I think their constant meddling in his image is sad. I think they should just leave it all be, and let him rest. Continue his filanthropy yes, continue his good work and his charity, but leave his personal life at least out of the public's eye, and move on.

(daft coming from me- I know.)

SOURCES:

https://f1i.com/news/367169-ten-years-on-prost-hits-back-at-fake-senna-film.html

http://www.v-brazil.com/culture/Brazilian-celebrities/ayrton-biography.html

https://forums.autosport.com/topic/108051-senna-interview-from-1990/

(I do have another source about Ayrton's arranged marriages but I am struggling to find it. Ill add it here once I have found it.)

If anyone has anything else to add here please do!! i may have made some mistakes! Please remember I am not a researcher I am just a girl with a hyperfocus special subject lmao

[astro-gnome]

ayrton senna in '88, after playing too hard in the sea

[photo cred: adriane yamin, 'my girl']

[bbglewis]

"Senna was married once for a short period of time, prior to his breakthrough in Formula One, to Lilian de Vasconcelos. After his marriage to Vasconcelos ended, Senna courted Adriane Yamin, daughter of an entrepreneur from São Paulo. She was 15 years old when they began the relationship in 1985 and was commonly chaperoned by her mother during meetings with Senna. "

Um hello???? Does everyone just pretend this isn't a thing or what????

[sennaverstappen]

hi sorry if i bother but i've been saying call senna a pedophile often and never understood anything about the whole thing

i thought i would ask someone who might help me understand whether it's true or just lies and what made people say this about him

have a good day/night

hello dear anon! please be assured, i love every ask i get (yes even the ones that have been sitting in my inbox forever im so sorry i will answer them when im not coughing up blood 💔)

ALSO: i am unfortunately not as much of an expert as i’d like to be, so any other fans who know more, please correct me and add on.

so… before we get started this won’t be me defending ayrton in any sense of the word lmao. culture differences yes sure but he still dated a 15 year old. i do think the constant ‘jokes’ people make about it are in horrid taste, but what do you do.

ayrton dated adriane yamin when he was 25 and she was a mere 15 years old. of course, alarm bells are already going off in your head.

adriane is the daughter of a very rich brazillian entrepreneur, and i see some sources online say that its ‘common’ practice to basically sell your rich daughter out (baile du debutante), however all my other sources say that this isn’t common practice in brazil anymore. so take that with a grain of salt.

unfortunately there isn’t much information about the relationship between adriane and ayrton, except that it DID end. the courtship was ‘long and kept secret’ (which sounds… not great to me but whatever man). they broke up after his crowning as wdc in 1988. the same source says that ayrton had great respect for adriane. make of that what you will.

TLDR: yeah ayrton dated a 15 year old when he was 25. there isn’t much more information to be found about their relationship, except that they did break up. yes, culture was different in brazil. no, that doesn’t make it less creepy.

[eve-will-perceive]

ayrton senna and adriane yamin

[blorbocedes]

Hi blorbie. Apparently everyone comes to you with rumours now. So it it true that Senna’s gf was only 15?

yes. it's on his wiki (he was 25 at the time)

Senna then courted Adriane Yamin, daughter of an entrepreneur from São Paulo, who was 15 years old when they began the relationship in 1985 and often chaperoned by her mother during meetings with Senna. They were briefly engaged, but the relationship was broken off by Senna in late 1988.

[albonium]

yearly reminder that 25 year old ayrton senna dated groomed 15 year old adriane yamin for 4 years

[dellovestorant]

if the p*edoph*lia comment you made on twitter is about senna i can tell you it’s true, the woman herself confirmed on a podcast and described the “relationship” on her book

https://www.uol.com.br/esporte/ultimas-noticias/2021/12/25/adriane-yamin-ayrton-senna-namoro-detalhes.amp.htm

Oh yeah I know about Senna.

That tweet was people accusing other people on twt of being a pedo because they share the same name as another person but then not sharing any proof.

And then deletes said post of the accusation after they were told they were wrong with absolutely no apology.

[f1-unpopularopinions]

I’m surprised that it’s not really known that Aryton Senna dated a 15 year old when he was 25. Her name is Adriane yamin. And you can google this stuff it’s legit

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Ex-noiva de Ayrton Senna processa jornalista sobre acusação de calúnia e difamação

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[wtflife01]

Senna dated a 15 yr old Adriane Yamin when he was 25 yrs old. Google it and a reddit discussion on it is the first thing you’ll see. A whole ass pedo.

According to the Brazilian constitution, there is no crime. Because the rape of a vulnerable person is characterized when it comes to children under 14 years of age. The criminal law established differentiated treatment in relation to children under 14 years of age and those over 14 years of age and those under 18 years of age, recognizing that, in relation to the latter two, some sexual freedom must be respected. Remembering that I'm not getting into the merits of being moral/immoral or adequate/inadequate.

She also wrote a book in which she talks about their relationship. She said they met on a family vacation, where she had her parents' permission to go out with him. According to her, they only slept together on her 18th birthday. And to this day she refers to him as "the love of my life".

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