#a-smart-toh-and-amphibia-fan
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your-tuesday-snird · 6 months ago
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Snird spotted!
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That my dear Wit Gem, is a
SNIRD
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the-owl-house-takes · 1 year ago
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A lot of the people criticizing TOH are using recycled arguments from the SU crits and for that reason alone I know they're not good arguments. Something can be serialized AND episodic. This mixed model is present in many shows, INCLUDING ATLA. Something can have horror and romance and comedy, look at WTNV! "The Collector had more characterization than Gus" that is patently false. I am a Collector fan and Gus definitely got more focus. He had multiple episodes fleshing out his relationships with other characters, outside the main cast, we know his weaknesses, in that he can be blind to other people using him (a parallel with the Collector) AND he can only really do illusions. We know about his insecurities, we know his strengths, we know his interests and hobbies. People are complaining to complain. It's not lost on me that this intense nit-picking of problems that barely exist is the exact same thing that happened to SU. AND DON'T EVER LET IT BE LOST ON *YOU* THAT THIS MOSTLY HAPPENS TO SHOWS WITH QUEER REP, A DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS, SHALLOW OBSERVATIONS OF PROBLEMS THAT DON'T REALLY EXIST ***AND THEN!!!*** CALLING THE CREATOR A BAD PERSON OR A RACIST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AS IF THE SHOW SPRUNG FULLY FORMED FROM THEIR HEAD. (mod can you not post any asks in the future that call Dana or anyone else on the team a racist or anything like that?) "Oh the ending was rushed! It's bad writing, I don't care that they had a runtime equivalent to six episodes to conclude what they originally planned and paced for TWENTY!" Okay then pal, if you're so fucking smart and talented, then why don't *YOU* make a script that wraps up everything perfectly but the catch is YOU NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE RUN TIME (this is an argument about what we have being rushed so you cannot change the conclusions, because the "it was rushed" argument implies that "it would work if it wasn't paced poorly"). Yeah. Develop the Collector more and show us their change of heart in more depth? At the expense of what? Rewrite Huntlow so it isn't abrupt and is further away from both of their mental breakdowns? At the expense of WHAT? Include the hexsquad in the final Fight since everyone wants the deeply traumatized child to watch his abuser die (this is not something every abused person wants or needs btw)? I'd like to see you juggling (Luz, King, Eda, Hunter, Amity, Willow, Gus, Camila, The Collector, Belos, Raine) ELEVEN CHARACTERS. Not to mention so many of these complaints REEK of media illiteracy. "The ending should have been more like amphibia's" That wouldn't have worked with the Themes of the show. Not to mention the ones I pointed out at the top of this rant. It really feels like people have walked into a subway and are complaining at the lack of chicken nuggets. "I'm allowed to say my complaints about the show I like!" I think if you call the creator of this show a racist or insult anyone on the team because you wished this cartoon for children didn't end the way you wanted it to, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to criticize anything, ever. Critique NEVER should include insults at the creator. Would you look at the work of a painter and say "Wow what horrible skill, what a lack of talent, this artist must be a real loser" and it turns out you're mad about the art being abstract when you prefer romanticism, or post modernist when you want neo-classical.
There's things that could have been improved about the show, there's criticisms to be had, but Critique IS NOT insulting the creator. And your criticism can be criticized too, especially when it is over-inflated or based on objective flaws in reasoning (like people wanting the ending to be like amphibia's, which, despite all similarities, WAS TELLING A DIFFERENT STORY THEMATICALLY).
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hieronymus-botch · 2 years ago
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Something that really disappointed me about both Amphibia and The Owl House is how Gravity Falls’s ending drove the whole “power of family” message home by having the characters work together to outwit the bad guy using tools and vulnerabilities that had already been established in previous episodes, and because basically everyone involved from the Disney execs to the masses of fans conceptualized both shows as unofficial successors to Gravity Falls, part of that being the similar “power of friendship/family/love” morals, the TOH and Amphibia crews wanted to have similarly thematic endings, but they weren’t smart enough to do it like the Gravity Falls crew, so instead they both literally just had God show up, give the protagonist a pat on the back for being such a virtuous person and caring about their friends so much, and reward them with temporary divine-intervention induced superpowers that let them effortlessly curb-stomp the previously unbeatable villain.
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roamthecountryover · 2 years ago
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how's the writing coming along? make sure to go at your own pace so you don't burn yourself out!
also thoughts on the new owl house ep?
FOR THE FUTURE SPOILERS!!!!!!
So, writing... is hard. School has been crazy at the moment, and I've only just finished the second draft of the dialogue for Ch. 20. I know, it's taking a while. But!!! I didn't actually use that time for nothing. I wrote out some basic stuff for the next TWENTY chapters, up to ch. 40! Some important conversations, scene details, stuff like that!
Why do that instead of focusing on one chap. at a time? Well, I'm hoping I can cut some corners on time in the future. We'll have to see.
Moreover, I think I'll have more time to work on ch.20 this weekend. I do also have to study for a test, but I can do both.
As for the new episode???
FUCKIN. AMAZING.
I LOVE Luz's palismen- not only does it fit her perfectly, but it was just a really smart idea in general. It made it so not only most of the fan theories were right, but all their evidence was turned into foreshadowing! It's genius!
I like how everyone got development in the character arcs- Hunter, Willow, Luz, Camilla! Maybe they were a little rushed, but that's obviously not the writer's fault. It makes me sad that we're not going to get more of Steve and other minor characters, though.
Eda and Lilith are awesome, I love them. The new hair is awesome, and I am ready for all the trauma fics where Eda has to stand by and watch as Rain is nothing but a puppet... also nice GF parallel.
Belos is straight up fucking horrifying now. It'd be fucked up if the Golden Guard body he took was Garius's mentor. I paused and counted the helmets- got, like, 35? So, ya know, fuck.
I wish we got more of Caleb the Original. We have little to no info on him or his wife, The Maybe Clawthorne Possibly.
I really want them to release an important Journal, like Gravity Falls and Amphibia did. Probably Phillip's Journal, because that's the only really important journal TOH has. They haven't really established any codes tho... WAIT YES THEY HAVE
Anyway, that about sums up my thoughts. Thanks for asking!
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yaboysafttheenby · 5 months ago
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My Fandoms!
Empires Smp
Amphibia
The Owl House
Hilda
Detective Conan
Ninjago
Hazbin Hotel
My Little Pony
Voltron: Legendary Defender
Sofia the First
Have questions? Feel free to ask!
Edit: Name change!
a-smart-toh-and-amphibia-fan is no more!
It is now
yaboysafttheenby
Why? Because my old hyperfixations are coming back like Empires, Ninjago, etc. My hyperfixations are really random, like they either go away and come back like a few months, or a year later, or go away and are gone forever.
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