#a terrorist organization but it doesn't mean all palestinians are terrorists. these brutal actions are inexcusable plain and simple
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tankies are bloodthirsty fascists who love russia and hamas because they love violence. they aren't any type of liberal or progressive. they are excited by brutality and filled with hate and spew nothing but lies and propaganda.
they don't care about anyone - not ukrainians, not palestinians, not israelis, not the world. as evidenced by them attacking this pro-Palestinian journalist for the crime of...saying rape and murder and terrorism are bad.
#also every ignorant person who knows nothing about the region and somehow thinks that it's not racist af to say that “of course” this#happened because they think palestinians are the same as hamas as believe that they can't control themselves and not commit atrocities need#stfu.#saying this was inevitable is saying that palestinians are unable to not commit war crimes. what a disgusting and bigoted attitude. hamas i#a terrorist organization but it doesn't mean all palestinians are terrorists. these brutal actions are inexcusable plain and simple#raping innocent people does nothing to help any regular palestinian people. this was just a violent terrorist act. it was a pogrom. not#freedom fighting. anyone who supports it supports terrorism.#Hamas#Palestine#Israel#politics#political
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so many ppl happily shared analysis of why JKR played on antisemitic tropes that were historically used to kill Jews.
And then those same people did stuff like share an unconfirmed story that Israel bombed a hospital just bc Hamas said they did, refuse to correct themselves when it turned out that actually the hospital parking lot (not the hospital) was accidentally hit by a rocket fired by Hamas not Israel, and then used that lie to whip up hatred and violence against Jews around the world who have nothing to do with Israel or Palestine OR Hamas.
ok but the whiplash of ppl being all up in arms about antisemitic undertones in a stupid video game but then refusing to say a word about a literal global pogrom and happily reblogging antisemitic lies really takes performative activism to the next level huh?
i mean i was not the biggest fan of the antisemitic undertones of the stupid video game bc i think excusing that makes it easier to excuse bigger things. but yeah i definitely notice when gentiles who are very outspoken abt antisemitism in media do a complete 180 when the antisemitism is happening to real jews in real life. like cool you value me less than your blorbo who you have headcanoned as a jew. love it.
#also. not to detract from the antisemitism discussion but doing that is hugely harmful to palestine.#sharing misinformation that gets debunked makes it harder for people to be believed when sharing REAL things that affect palestine.#Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Hamas seized power afterwards. Hamas brutally oppresses Palestinians. Then Hamas carried out a terrorist#attack in Israel. and your response to that was rallies shouting free Palestine in response to the terror attack. before Israel even did#anything to respond. That doesn't help Palestine. That just associates the whole pro palestine movement with antisemitism and terrorism.#which is harmful to Palestinian causes and puts Palestinian people at risk. Like. you are literally supporting racist anti palestinian and#islamaphobic rhetoric with your actions.#and you're also speaking over the many Palestinians who are risking their lives to condemn hamas. are there palestinians#and “pro palestinian” organizations that support hamas? sure. just like there are americans#and allegedly “pro american” organizations that support the KKK or Trump. it doesn't mean those orgs#speak for all americans or are actually helping the US.#stop elevating those harmful propagandistic messages. and don't allow them in any events#to support palestine.#antisemitism#my additions
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An entire narrative brought down by a simple question.
What would you do?
What would you do?
What would you do if you were the leader of Israel?
A simple question.
The answer?
Not quite as simple.
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Konstantin Kisin: October 7th has happened. Right. We-- it's happened. What should Israel have done in your opinion? That's all, that's all I'm asking.
Bassem Youssef: Not this.
Kisin: Okay, but not this. Okay, what should they have done.
Youssef: Not this.
Kisin: That's a negative. I'm asking what in the positive sense, what they should have done. How should they have reacted?
Youssef: My answer didn't change. Not this.
Kisin: But you say not like this, and you don't give a positive answer.
Youssef: Well, I have no idea either.
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Is he the only pro-Palestinian supporter...
... that has fallen short of answering this question?
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Piers Morgan: What would you have done if you'd been Israel after October 7?
Andrew Tate: That's a really interesting question.
Morgan: Given that Hamas last week said, we're going to try and do the same thing again and again and again, what would you do to defend the people of Israel?
Tate: I would have found out how our border was penetrated. I would have made sure that was impossible to do. I would have had large conversations and discourse during that period, which would probably take weeks, and then I would make it clear that there will be some repercussion unless we can come to peace terms.
Morgan: Hamas doesn't want peace.
Tate: Of course not.
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Do you see how their narrative falls apart the moment the question is asked of what they would do had they been in that position?
Youssef just sits there saying, not this. Over and over again.
Implying that his nonaction would be path that he'd pursue.
And Tate is seeking to make peace with a militant terror group...
... that he himself admits has no desire in making peace.
Which effectively means he'll allow terror to rain on his people endlessly without action.
Do you believe them?
Because neither do we. The reason neither of them can answer the question that is so simple.
It's because they refuse to admit that not responding...
... demonstrates weakness...
... invites more massacres against your people.
So, what do they do?
The answer? Nothing.
Just more smoke and mirrors.
If you've been on the fence about what Israel should do in the face of a genocidal terror group led by the Islamic Republic Iran...
... ask yourself what you would do.
What would you do if your neighbors...
... massacred your son...
... massacred your daughter...
... massacred your nation...
... massacred your nation...
... massacred your nation?
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A Hamas official has vowed to repeat the horrific terror attacks on Israel earlier this month “again and again” until the country is completely destroyed, insisting it has “no place on our land.”
Ghazi Hamad, a member of the militant group’s decision-making political bureau, warned that Gaza leadership would replicate the coordinated Oct. 7 attack, referred to by the terrorists as Operation al-Aqsa Flood, which killed more than 1,400 Israelis and took some 240 hostages.
“The al-Aqsa Flood is just the first time and there will be a second, a third, a fourth because we have the determination, the resolve and the capabilities to fight,” Hamad said in an Oct. 24 Lebanese television interview republished by British outlets Wednesday.
Hamad said the terrorist organization is willing to “pay a price.”
“We are called a nation of martyrs and are proud to sacrifice martyrs,” Hamad said. “Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country because it constitutes a security, military and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nations, and must be finished.”
[ Continued... ]
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Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
[..]
Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."
[..]
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
[ Continued... ]
"You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them." -- Fathi Hamad, political leader of Hamas, member of the Palestinian Legislative Council
"Israel is only the first target. The entire planet will be under our law." -- Mahmoud al-Zahar, Hamas Commander
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Everyone who isn't infected with the Intersectional mind-virus knows that Israel is doing exactly what they should do and need to do, and that the responsibility for the results rests entirely with the Islamic terrorists who started the war in the first place, then hid behind the civilians.
#what would you do#israel#hamas#hamas terrorism#october 7#hamas massacre#october 7 massacre#october 7 attacks#exterminate hamas#hamas supporters#pro hamas#hamas terrorists#islamic terrorism#terrorism supporters#religion is a mental illness
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Can't seem to reblog a response so here @cresteria
HAMAS is the government of Palestine, they are also a terrorist organization. It behooves them to say that a genocide, famine and apartheid are happening when in reality they aren't.
If it was truly a genocide, if there was truly any intent by Israel to have a mass extinction of Palestinians, very very easily could just start shooting and not stop, could start bombing and not stop. The intent is important when you consider genocide versus war. Because war can cause a lot of death, most wars have more civilian casualties than troops.
Famine was disproven or at the very least called into serious question but y'all keep refusing to acknowledge that. Sources: 1, 2,
Also, if anyone should be blamed for restriction of aid it is HAMAS and UNWRA who have been caught on video stealing aid only to sell it later. Sources: 1, 2, + more on my pinned post
In response to your apartheid comment I'm just gonna link a short from someone who actually lived under apartheid in Africa telling us who have never lived under it that Israel is not an apartheid - link stop spitting in their faces
Yes, those individual soldiers doing those terrible actions were wrong. But many individuals in war have done many bad things while at war. That didn't make the entire war an evil war. In fact, most wars the "good" side also did evil and bad things, at the end of the war we should hold them accountable, that is true. This doesn't mean we stop the war. If that mentality was true, the allies would have never stopped Nazi Germany.
HAMAS attacked first to kill Jews. It is literally in their manifesto. They don't want peace. They want all Jews dead.
True, no one deserves to get raped in prison. Just like the hostages taken deserved better treatment or the civilians massacred on Oct. 7th brutally sexually assaulted deserved better. Somehow that was resistance right? Killing civilians and taking hostages, raping women and children, making their families watch. Explain that to fit your narrative.
If Palestine didn't want any of this to happen maybe they shouldn't have broken the peace on Oct. 7th by brutally attacking, raping, kidnapping and taking hostages they've refused to give back, kept hidden in civilian homes, so it isn't like civilians don't know where they are.
Stop being blind. There was peace. Palestine could've brought any rape happening to light another way than mass murder, rape and kidnapping. If you think otherwise you are insane and want Jews dead.
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this. also. there are different kinds of bigotry and if you say something insanely bigoted but then tack on "but I think that's great" it's still bigoted.
there are 2 groups of people who say that Hamas represents the Palestinian people - rightwing extremists and terrorism supporters. When people say that being Palestinian means you are a monster who commits atrocities or a terrorist or that being Muslim is the same as supporting terrorism it's untrue and deeply bigoted and harmful and offensive.
When people like the right-wing guy who stabbed a 6 year old Palestinian-American child say things like that it's bigoted and violent. When so-called progressives say the same things but add a "I think that's great" to the end of the sentence it is equally bigoted and harmful and untrue. The atrocities of Hamas do not represent all regular Palestinian citizens. There are Palestinians risking their lives to stand up to Hamas.
When Hamas commits acts of terrorism and you immediately rush into the street cheering for Palestine as though Hamas's actions are connected to Palestinian human rights advocacy you are being a bigot. You are saying the acts of a terrorist organization represent Palestinian people. They do not. And trying to link the two just undermines the work of actual real activists trying to help Palestinian people in Gaza and elsewhere.
Are there some Palestinians who support Hamas? Sure. Just like some Americans support the MAGA movement; it doesn't mean the MAGA movement speaks for or represents all Americans or that the MAGA movement is actually beneficial for the US.
There are a lot of other Palestinians standing up to their corrupt government and the leaders of Hamas (who by the way are billionaires living in luxury using the stolen money that should have benefitted their people). When you only center the voices of the people who support the corrupt and brutal dictatorship of Hamas and refuse to air the voices of the many people calling out that corruption you aren't benefitting the people of Gaza. You are propping up their oppressors. Advocating for terrorism and repeating bigoted talking points hurts Palestinian people. And acting like it's ok because you shouted "free Palestine" or because you say that you think the bigoted lie you repeated is good doesn't make it ok.
The timing revealed it all. A terrorist organization committed atrocities against Jews and Israelis and you all ran out to celebrate that and started protesting and saying this was a celebratory moment for Palestine. wtf does terrorists committing atrocities have to do with human rights and dignity for people in Gaza? These protests started before any Israeli response. There was a ceasefire in effect. Israel had withdrawn from Gaza in 2005. The protests and vile pro-terrorism posts started before the massacre had even ended.
Why did you look at a massacre committed by terrorists and think that had anything to do with a movement to support Palestinian people who were also being oppressed by that same terrorist group?! If you think that you are just a bigot who knows nothing about Gaza or Palestinian people.
lot of people don’t believe themselves to be bigoted. they believe themselves to be just. that’s one of the most dangerous types of bigot out there
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