#Zilog

[byruit]

Sony HitBit HB-101 (1984)

The HB-101 is part of the MSX standard, a unified home computer architecture developed by Microsoft and ASCII Corporation.

- CPU: Zilog Z80, running at 3.58 MHz

- RAM: 64 KB

- Video: Video Display Processor (VDP) with a maximum resolution of 256 x 192 pixels, supporting up to 16 colors

- Sound: Programmable Sound Generator (PSG) for audio

[commodorez]

Various Z80 CPUs pulled from devices in my workshop.

[yourlocalnerd07]

I guess we both like good ol' ALU registers (A, HL)

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Cast your votes here and here

[retrocompmx]

Un día como hoy (1 de diciembre) en la computación

El 1 de diciembre de 1941 nace Federico Faggin, doctor en física italiano, coinventor del microprocesador, llamado Proyecto 4004 que le abrió las puertas de Intel en 1970. En 1974 fundó Zilog, Inc. Donde produjo un nuevo diseño de chips para la recién nacida industria computacional #retrocomputingmx #FedericoFaggin #intel #zilog

[athur2llmm]

https://www.futureelectronics.com/p/semiconductors--microcontrollers--8-bit/ez80f91az050ek-zilog-8131964

Embedded microcontroller, microcontroller board, lcd microcontrollers

eZ80F91 Series 256 kB Flash 8 kB RAM 50 MHz 8-Bit Microcontroller - LQFP-144

[archiveosorg]

Might and Magic

Might and Magic – a role-playing game released in 1986 by New World Computing https://archivegame.org/might-and-magic/

[biancarogers]

Can I Have My Apple //e and Run CP/M, Too With This Z-80 SoftCard? Part 2 (Computerized Start™ Live) 🍎⛏️👕 https://applevideos.co.uk/mac-studio/can-i-have-my-apple-e-and-run-cpm-too-with-this-z80-softcard-part-2-computerized-start-live

[beigebox]

This is one of the few pieces of retro tech in my collection that I've owned since new. A TI-83 graphing calculator bought circa 1999 as a requirement for my high school maths class. The manual is bigger than the calculator itself which was pretty exciting for a young nerd.

These run off a Z80 and have a pretty decent version of Basic. I wrote some simple games and even back then heard rumours of people running Doom although no one ever had proof at my school. The internal battery must still have a charge because it has some of my programs and pixel art!

There's a ton of half working things on it, but the first one is a loader for the programs I considered my best. You could draw using the cursor keys or generate images using maths, so one of the programs just displays pictures. I was into Thief: The Dark Project and fractals, not much has changed there.

I first learned about Markov chain text generators around this time too and the idea of computer generated text blew my mind. I remember writing this super rudinentary sentence generator during a maths class... and suddenly I understand why I'm so bad at trig and calculus.

[techav]

I suggested previously that a Gotek floppy emulator would probably be the easiest way to get this old Sanyo MBC-1000 booted and running again. Turns out that was even easier than I expected.

The first thing I did was reflash the Gotek with FlashFloppy to add support for more image and drive types. FlashFloppy doesn't directly support Teledisk images, but the HxC software can convert them into something both FlashFloppy and HxC can use on a Gotek. I only needed a normal 34-pin ribbon cable for the mainboard interface, and I cobbled together a USB power adapter.

And ... that was it. The computer booted right into CP/M 2.2 without any complaints.

I do still want to try developing some new hardware for this machine. Now that I have a proper operating system with BASIC and an assembler, development should go much smoother.

[gamemories]

[sapphic-cecaelia]

gosh, the girls were doing what w their cpus? 😳

[andmaybegayer]

The original Zilog Z80 line is finally being discontinued, end of an era, rip to a real one.

What are some of the coolest computer chips ever, in your opinion?

Hmm. There are a lot of chips, and a lot of different things you could call a Computer Chip. Here's a few that come to mind as "interesting" or "important", or, if I can figure out what that means, "cool".

If your favourite chip is not on here honestly it probably deserves to be and I either forgot or I classified it more under "general IC's" instead of "computer chips" (e.g. 555, LM, 4000, 7000 series chips, those last three each capable of filling a book on their own). The 6502 is not here because I do not know much about the 6502, I was neither an Apple nor a BBC Micro type of kid. I am also not 70 years old so as much as I love the DEC Alphas, I have never so much as breathed on one.

Disclaimer for writing this mostly out of my head and/or ass at one in the morning, do not use any of this as a source in an argument without checking.

Intel 3101

So I mean, obvious shout, the Intel 3101, a 64-bit chip from 1969, and Intel's first ever product. You may look at that, and go, "wow, 64-bit computing in 1969? That's really early" and I will laugh heartily and say no, that's not 64-bit computing, that is 64 bits of SRAM memory.

This one is cool because it's cute. Look at that. This thing was completely hand-designed by engineers drawing the shapes of transistor gates on sheets of overhead transparency and exposing pieces of crudely spun silicon to light in a """"cleanroom"""" that would cause most modern fab equipment to swoon like a delicate Victorian lady. Semiconductor manufacturing was maturing at this point but a fab still had more in common with a darkroom for film development than with the mega expensive building sized machines we use today.

As that link above notes, these things were really rough and tumble, and designs were being updated on the scale of weeks as Intel learned, well, how to make chips at an industrial scale. They weren't the first company to do this, in the 60's you could run a chip fab out of a sufficiently well sealed garage, but they were busy building the background that would lead to the next sixty years.

Lisp Chips

This is a family of utterly bullshit prototype processors that failed to be born in the whirlwind days of AI research in the 70's and 80's.

Lisps, a very old but exceedingly clever family of functional programming languages, were the language of choice for AI research at the time. Lisp compilers and interpreters had all sorts of tricks for compiling Lisp down to instructions, and also the hardware was frequently being built by the AI researchers themselves with explicit aims to run Lisp better.

The illogical conclusion of this was attempts to implement Lisp right in silicon, no translation layer.

Yeah, that is Sussman himself on this paper.

These never left labs, there have since been dozens of abortive attempts to make Lisp Chips happen because the idea is so extremely attractive to a certain kind of programmer, the most recent big one being a pile of weird designd aimed to run OpenGenera. I bet you there are no less than four members of r/lisp who have bought an Icestick FPGA in the past year with the explicit goal of writing their own Lisp Chip. It will fail, because this is a terrible idea, but damn if it isn't cool.

There were many more chips that bridged this gap, stuff designed by or for Symbolics (like the Ivory series of chips or the 3600) to go into their Lisp machines that exploited the up and coming fields of microcode optimization to improve Lisp performance, but sadly there are no known working true Lisp Chips in the wild.

Zilog Z80

Perhaps the most important chip that ever just kinda hung out. The Z80 was almost, almost the basis of The Future. The Z80 is bizzare. It is a software compatible clone of the Intel 8080, which is to say that it has the same instructions implemented in a completely different way.

This is, a strange choice, but it was the right one somehow because through the 80's and 90's practically every single piece of technology made in Japan contained at least one, maybe two Z80's even if there was no readily apparent reason why it should have one (or two). I will defer to Cathode Ray Dude here: What follows is a joke, but only barely

The Z80 is the basis of the MSX, the IBM PC of Japan, which was produced through a system of hardware and software licensing to third party manufacturers by Microsoft of Japan which was exactly as confusing as it sounds. The result is that the Z80, originally intended for embedded applications, ended up forming the basis of an entire alternate branch of the PC family tree.

It is important to note that the Z80 is boring. It is a normal-ass chip but it just so happens that it ended up being the focal point of like a dozen different industries all looking for a cheap, easy to program chip they could shove into Appliances.

Effectively everything that happened to the Intel 8080 happened to the Z80 and then some. Black market clones, reverse engineered Soviet compatibles, licensed second party manufacturers, hundreds of semi-compatible bastard half-sisters made by anyone with a fab, used in everything from toys to industrial machinery, still persisting to this day as an embedded processor that is probably powering something near you quietly and without much fuss. If you have one of those old TI-86 calculators, that's a Z80. Oh also a horrible hybrid Z80/8080 from Sharp powered the original Game Boy.

I was going to try and find a picture of a Z80 by just searching for it and look at this mess! There's so many of these things.

I mean the C/PM computers. The ZX Spectrum, I almost forgot that one! I can keep making this list go! So many bits of the Tech Explosion of the 80's and 90's are powered by the Z80. I was not joking when I said that you sometimes found more than one Z80 in a single computer because you might use one Z80 to run the computer and another Z80 to run a specialty peripheral like a video toaster or music synthesizer. Everyone imaginable has had their hand on the Z80 ball at some point in time or another. Z80 based devices probably launched several dozen hardware companies that persist to this day and I have no idea which ones because there were so goddamn many.

The Z80 eventually got super efficient due to process shrinks so it turns up in weird laptops and handhelds! Zilog and the Z80 persist to this day like some kind of crocodile beast, you can go to RS components and buy a brand new piece of Z80 silicon clocked at 20MHz. There's probably a couple in a car somewhere near you.

Pentium (P5 microarchitecture)

Yeah I am going to bring up the Hackers chip. The Pentium P5 series is currently remembered for being the chip that Acidburn geeks out over in Hackers (1995) instead of making out with her boyfriend, but it is actually noteworthy IMO for being one of the first mainstream chips to start pulling serious tricks on the system running it.

The P5 comes out swinging with like four or five tricks to get around the numerous problems with x86 and deploys them all at once. It has superscalar pipelining, it has a RISC microcode, it has branch prediction, it has a bunch of zany mathematical optimizations, none of these are new per se but this is the first time you're really seeing them all at once on a chip that was going into PC's.

Without these improvements it's possible Intel would have been beaten out by one of its competitors, maybe Power or SPARC or whatever you call the thing that runs on the Motorola 68k. Hell even MIPS could have beaten the ageing cancerous mistake that was x86. But by discovering the power of lying to the computer, Intel managed to speed up x86 by implementing it in a sensible instruction set in the background, allowing them to do all the same clever pipelining and optimization that was happening with RISC without having to give up their stranglehold on the desktop market. Without the P5 we live in a very, very different world from a computer hardware perspective.

From this falls many of the bizzare microcode execution bugs that plague modern computers, because when you're doing your optimization on the fly in chip with a second, smaller unix hidden inside your processor eventually you're not going to be cryptographically secure.

RISC is very clearly better for, most things. You can find papers stating this as far back as the 70's, when they start doing pipelining for the first time and are like "you know pipelining is a lot easier if you have a few small instructions instead of ten thousand massive ones.

x86 only persists to this day because Intel cemented their lead and they happened to use x86. True RISC cuts out the middleman of hyperoptimizing microcode on the chip, but if you can't do that because you've girlbossed too close to the sun as Intel had in the late 80's you have to do something.

The Future

This gets us to like the year 2000. I have more chips I find interesting or cool, although from here it's mostly microcontrollers in part because from here it gets pretty monotonous because Intel basically wins for a while. I might pick that up later. Also if this post gets any longer it'll be annoying to scroll past. Here is a sample from a post I have in my drafts since May:

I have some notes on the weirdo PowerPC stuff that shows up here it's mostly interesting because of where it goes, not what it is. A lot of it ends up in games consoles. Some of it goes into mainframes. There is some of it in space. Really got around, PowerPC did.

[adafruit]

🎄💾🗓️ Day 2: Retrocomputing Advent Calendar brings us the TRS-80! 🎄💾🗓️

Released in 1977, the TRS-80 (also lovingly called the "Trash-80") was a popular personal computer by Radio Shack and Tandy Corporation. Designed for affordability and approachability, it was one of the first mass-market computers, bringing computers into homes, schools, and small businesses.

Powered by a Zilog Z80 processor running at 1.77 MHz, the TRS-80 Model I came with 4KB of RAM (expandable to 16KB) and an 8KB ROM, preloaded with the Microsoft BASIC programming language. Its black-and-white display supported a resolution of 64x16 characters. It used external cassette tapes for storage, which offered a low-cost solution before floppy drives became more available.

The TRS-80's also had an ecosystem. Radio Shack offered complete setups, monitors, printers, and software - making it easy for beginners. The machine became a favorite for hobbyists and programmers, popularizing early text-based adventure games, educational software, and business applications.

Eventually overtaken by the IBM PC and Apple systems, the TRS-80's legacy lives on!

I had some so-so photos, but these from the Smithsonian are the best I've seen, along with their section on their site -

Have TRS-80 memories, or retro computing memories? Post’em up in the comments, or post yours on socialz’ and tag them #retrocomputing #firstcomputer #electronics see you back here tomorrow!

[ui-alcoholic]

The Dutch Holborn System 6100/6140 is a very rare machine (and very funky design), only 100 of them were made. The system specifications: • Zilog Z80 CPU @ 3.5 MHz • 72 KB RAM (expandable to 192 KB) • 8-inch floppy drives

The Dutch Computer Museum has a working one, they made the video below

[seat-safety-switch]

When you're in a community of real weirdos, things are just buzzing all the time. I imagine that normal individuals, restrained by illusions like the rice-paper-thin curtain of "social pressures" and "paying jobs," can go upwards of fifteen, twenty minutes without filling any available empty space in conversation. No deal here: it's all projects, all the time, when my buddies get together.

If you don't immediately commandeer a whiteboard the second you step foot on the property, get ready to hear about the secret 16-bit I/O port mode of the Zilog Z80 microprocessor. Followed by half of a Haynes' manual worth of discussion on why it is technically incorrect to call the Dodge Neon's 3-speed automatic a true TorqueFlite. Sometimes those come from the same person. You better have a weapon of your own at the ready.

Either we've actually arrived to work on a project, or we've all convened to discuss how we're not making enough progress on our projects. It is only through disassembling 1970s South Korean payphones that we can outrun the Bad Thoughts. And when those payphones stop providing, the depth of an obsession finally mined to the core, a new project must be invented to satisfy the idle mind. This belief structure is table stakes for the kind of casual organization in which the real nuts get down to business.

While I'm sure this kind of staccato exchange of information must seem hard to follow, the moment when two weirdos discover they are working on the same thing makes it all worthwhile. Whether they co-operate or compete, nobody will be able to predict, but the realization that another sentient being in the same universe is also interested in, say, a 1981 TV game version of mahjong is more than enough motivation to produce something truly worrying for the general population.