#Zeus is the biggest asshole
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elfecassepied · 1 year ago
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Denki once read in an old comic book "With great power comes great responsibilities", it never quite felt right. He is the son of Zeus, king of the sky and master of thunder, so yeah the great power part fit him but he never felt like he had more responsibilities than other because of that. What come with the great power are the great expectations. He's expected to be a good leader, an amazing fighter or at least a decent diplomat. But he's none of that, he isn't great like every other kids of the Big Three. He's just silly Denki who makes bad jokes, some lightning tricks and bears a cursed sword... Ok so maybe the responsibility part is not out of the table.
Not me coming back in the PJO x MHA brainrot. Denki Kaminari as a son of Zeus is maybe unoriginal but I love it so much I can't do otherwise 😔.
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bigidiotenergytm · 13 days ago
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Well, it's not really a question. Just wanna say that I love your art.
Okay, I only have one question.... Why do all you artists make the two biggest assholes of the Greek gods (Zeus and Poseidon) look this hot?!
Like Nelillustrator's Zeus made my brain and my heart conflict!
❤️: I can fix him. 🫣
🧠: No, you can't. 😑
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JHSKJHFSDKFDS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, IM GIGGLING STOPP,,,,,, AUOOGHH UR SO KIND THANK U 😭😭😭
look i dont control what my gay evil lil hands draw i just see hot men and i go AWOOGA and yknow chaos ensues
also i don't wanna fix zeus in fact i think i want to make him worse-
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beauty-and-passion · 11 months ago
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Lore Olympus: a golden mine of bad writing
As I said, one post wasn’t enough.
There is still a lot to say about this webcomic and in this post I would like to talk about how Zeus, Apollo and Kronos have been treated. Here I will focus on the first two acts only, because the third act is not over, as well as the story. And yes, that means I will write another post when this whole thing is over.
I wanted to focus on these three gods in particular because are treated in a way that baffles me and makes me question what did they ever do to Mrs. Smythe. Tell me, Rachel: was it something personal? Did they do something to your family? What happened?
But maybe you don’t understand my point, especially if you haven’t read the Greek myths at all and you think that these three are just “Unfaithful Guy”, “Rapist” and “Evil Villain Har Har Who Also Wants To Rape”. Seriously, what’s with this weird obsession with raping everyone and with sex? Did Mrs. Smythe ever see anything else in myths, besides sex?
So please, allow me to explain why their characterizations are wrong and boring - and no, not just from a mythological point of view. 
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Zeus: the walking clichè
Making Zeus an asshole is understandable, even if utterly boring and clichè. Oh wow, he's an unfaithful husband and he's vain. Very original. Groundbreaking, I'd say. I’ve never read about him being unfaithful to his wife, not even once in all the 200 million retellings made during the history of mankind.
It's a shame because Zeus is much more than that. He's a mighty ruler with a strong sense of justice: in several myths, he punished the assholes for their wrongdoings. He's very clever and strong. He's also associated with xenia, the custom of offering protection to strangers, which means Zeus is also a protector of foreigners.
I mean, this information alone offers so many new perspectives about him! Just imagine if, instead of hanging around and doing nothing useful aside from being everyone’s favorite punching bag, Zeus fought against every corrupt system of the mortal realm, in order to protect the foreigners and the innocents. It would’ve been so cool to see a different side of him, instead of the same thing over and over again!
But nope, Zeus = unfaithful husband only. Let’s ignore all the other aspects of him, to focus on the one everyone focuses on. Let’s make him the umpteenth version of the same guy, instead of offering a new vision. This will surely make the story worth everyone’s time!
Rachel, this could’ve worked if I was 12 and had never read a retelling in my entire life. But since I’m more than twice that age, seeing Zeus as an unfaithful husband again doesn’t get my interest. And I’m sure this doesn’t only apply to me, but to everyone who already saw at least two retellings of him. Isn’t this story supposed to be new and original? Then why are we still picking from the same old clichè visions of these gods? Where is the writer’s personality and ability?
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Apollo: king of wasted potentials
I am absolutely, completely, 100% baffled at how Apollo has been treated in this story.
It's insulting to see the most beloved Greek god treated as a bidimensional piece of shit. Not only because he doesn't make any sense in the story (why is he here in the first place? Did Persephone and Apollo even interact in any myth?), but also because there are so many different possibilities for him, that seeing him being this is the biggest waste of potential I’ve ever seen.
A brief recap of who Apollo really is: Apollo is the embodiment of the sun. He is the god of arts and crafts. He's the most beautiful god, he embodies the concept of perfect Greek beauty. And he is associated with a lot of cool stuff, like medicine, truth and oracles. Also, like most of the other Greek gods, Apollo had many male and female lovers.
Now, look me in the eye and tell me that, with all of this, your first idea about him is "yeah, let's make him a stupid rapist, so stupid to not realize that hey, maybe forcing a girl to sleep with you will not make her fall in love with you". Oh and let's not forget he randomly decided he wanted Zeus' throne just after the fertility plot point had been introduced Because Yes. And he’s running for president of Whatever-Land Because Yes. Also, he’s currently involved again in another evil plot Because… yeah, you got it.
It’s just so frustrating to see him being the biggest loser of all time, considering how much cooler he could’ve been. Just think about it: we could've had a bisexual musician, who does concerts with his band (the Muses) and has a shit ton of lovers. We could’ve had a heartbroken doctor, who does his best to save everyone because he has not been able to save his own son from death (Asclepius). We could've had a mysterious advisor who can see the future because of his foresight powers.
What did we get instead? A fucking rapist.
Apollo is nothing but wasted potential. He’s an insult to himself, the story, common sense, and the Greek culture. Of all the incredible things he could've been, he became the most insulting of them all. I really cannot bear to see this fucking idiot and his punching-bag face, pretending to be Apollo. He’s not Apollo.
But if there is a guy I can see less than him, then let me introduce you to…
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Kronos: Supreme Master of Wasted Potential
First of all: why is Kronos here? Why does this love story need Persephone to defeat a big bad guy? Just to show how cool and badass she is? Considering that their fight was a joke, it didn't work very well.
But okay, let's say we need a villain Because Yes. Kronos is still a huge waste of potential, probably the biggest waste of potential of the whole series until now. He could’ve been an interesting, multifaceted character, but he became a cartoonish supervillain har-har I want power.
Sigh.
But let’s take a step back and talk about the real, mythological Kronos. His story starts with his parents, Uranus and Gaia. The two had a lot of sons, including Titans (like Kronos) and Hecatonchires (monsters with fifty heads and one hundred arms). Disgusted by their monstrous nature or maybe just out of fear of being overthrown, Uranus chained his sons away into Gaia's womb (aka the Tartarus) so that they could never come out again.
Gaia suffered from this decision, so she devised a plan: she made a stone sickle, gathered her sons and tried to persuade them to castrate Uranus.
All of her sons were afraid of Uranus, Kronos was the only one brave enough to do it. And he was successful: he overthrew his father and became the new ruler of the universe, along with his wife/sister Rhea.
However, after becoming king, he didn't free all of his brothers as his mother wanted, but locked Hecatonchires and Cyclopes away once again. And so, Gaia told him that, one day, he would meet his father’s same fate and be overthrown by one of his own children.
Scared by these words, Kronos devised a plan: every time he had a new child, he took the baby from Rhea and swallowed them. Rhea was desperate and, in order to save her last son Zeus, she sought Gaia's help.
So Rhea gave birth to Zeus in a secret place, then handed Kronos a stone wrapped in clothes: he swallowed it, thinking that it was his son. This way, Zeus managed to escape the same fate as his siblings and was raised in secret, away from his father, until he was old enough to come back and fulfill his destiny.
And now, you may think Zeus overthrew his father with a sword and killed him and nah nah nah, myths are not that stupid and predictable. Zeus didn’t use violence to overthrow his father, but intelligence. He disguised himself to reach Kronos' court and, at the right time, he gave him a drink. That drink was an emetic (given by Gaia), that forced Kronos to throw up everything he swallowed, in reverse order: first the stone he thought was his last son, then Zeus' brothers and sisters.
After freeing his siblings, Zeus did what his father would've never done: he released the Hecatoncheires and the Cyclops to help him in the following battle against Kronos and the other Titans, a battle known as Titanomachy.
The war ended with the victory of the Olympians (i.e. Zeus and his siblings). Many Titans were confined in Tartarus, under the Hecatonchires' control, others were not imprisoned and kept appearing in other myths.
And Kronos? His fate differs depending on the myths. In some versions, he was imprisoned in Tartarus. But according to other, more interesting versions, Zeus forgave him after years, freed him and Kronos became king of the Elysian Fields: the famous earthly paradise reserved for the greatest Greek heroes.
Now. Just look at all of this beautiful, beautiful potential.
We have Gaia, a powerful goddess who overthrew two rulers of the universe, without moving a finger. A goddess strong and clever, but also a mother who wanted all of her children to be free - even the most hideous ones. She could’ve been a tragic figure, a master manipulator, or an evil schemer. Or all these things!
We have the Hecatonchires: fighters so powerful, to turn the tide of any battle. They could’ve been scary and intimidating, but also tragic monsters who just wanted to be accepted. They could’ve taught a beautiful lesson about the importance of accepting the ugly and giving everyone a chance to prove themselves.
Then we have Kronos. And Kronos had everything to be the greatest character.
Think about this concept: Kronos has always been afraid of Uranus, just like his brothers. He was just better at hiding his feelings. And that visceral fear is still inside him, it still haunts him after centuries, just like the memory of how he overthrew his father. And that fear takes the shape of paranoid thoughts about his father coming back to take the throne.
Kronos could’ve seen his father haunting him, but he could’ve also dissociated and seen himself as his father. In his altered state of mind, he could’ve been both the king and the one who overthrows him.
That could’ve made him a truly dangerous, unhinged character. A god who can’t see what’s real anymore, obsessed with the ghosts of his past. A god with nothing to lose and everything to gain. After all, if he kills his children again, the throne would be his once more. And, since he sees himself as himself and as his father at the same time, he would think that he is the "true king" coming back to take his throne.
That could’ve been awesome. Kronos could've been complex, desperate and multifaceted, a villain to pity and to be afraid of. A truly new, interesting version to know and love.
And do you have any idea how incredible Zeus could’ve been in this version? We could see him facing Kronos again, still as strong and determined as when he was young. And while everyone would expect him to kill Kronos, he would use his intelligence once again. He would prove to Kronos (and to everyone else) how intelligence is always superior to violence and how he's a good leader, despite his thousands of flaws.
Also, we could've seen Zeus talking to the defeated Kronos and making him the ruler of the Elysian Fields. We could've had a meaningful ending, in which Zeus understands Kronos' fears and shares his own.
I would’ve adored this, because according to the myth, Zeus was also supposed to be overthrown by a son! Hence why he swallowed Metis (his first wife) while she was pregnant.
The myth never truly clarifies who this supposed "son" is, but according to the different versions, Metis was pregnant not with a son, but with a daughter. A daughter who, one day, would be born, full grown, from Zeus' head. A daughter who would become Zeus' favorite child: Athena.
Honestly? I ADORE the idea that there was never a son to overthrow Zeus, but a daughter. And she would not overthrow his father by violence like her grandfather or by intelligence like her father, but by love. Athena doesn't need to take the throne from her father physically, she doesn't even need to sit on that throne: not when her father loves her more than anything else.
And I love the idea that Zeus is aware of that. He knows his daughter is his weakness. He knows that, if she asks, he will willingly give her that throne, because he loves her too much. And I would've loved to see him sharing these thoughts with the defeated Kronos. It could've been a beautiful moment, to see Zeus talking with the fatherly figure he always missed from his life. It could've led to a beautiful, meaningful ending for a dramatic story.
But can you see the problem here? This concept works for a story about Zeus, not about Hades and Persephone! These two have nothing to do with Kronos! Heck, even Rachel Smythe knows it, considering she had to pull a stupid plot point out of thin air, to explain why Kronos would give a damn about Persephone!
In case you were wondering: yes, the fertility-magical-power-battery-thing is bullshit. Gods don’t need a magical battery to be powerful. And no, fertility goddesses are not rare either: Aphrodite, Demeter, Hera, even Artemis are just a few of the fertility goddesses in Greek mythology. Kronos could’ve picked his favorite from a large pool, instead of becoming an absolute creep with Persephone in the stupidest fight of all time.
And speaking of that, two words on the supposed “fight”. First of all, apologies to all fights for being associated with this thing, because this was anything but a fight: it was a cartoonish conversation accompanied by the umpteenth sexualization of Persephone, who first appeared fully naked, then with a dress so stupid to defy the laws of physics and perspective.
And if you don’t believe me, please see it by yourself: this is how the dress was supposed to be, according to episode 75
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This is how it ended up. Apparently, the Fates didn’t predict how huge Persephone’s boobs would be and the neckline didn’t grow accordingly: I feared to see one of them slipping out from it anytime during the “fight”
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Also, please appreciate how Persephone is turned to the side, but the dress’ stupidly huge neckline is shown from the front, otherwise we would’ve seen her full naked boobs.
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And that stupid neckline kept bothering me throughout the whole “fight”, because it kept changing size. Check the episodes and see it by yourself: sometimes it’s smaller, other times it’s wider and it keeps moving in impossible ways. It drove me insane.
But since we’re talking about drawings, please allow me a very brief parenthesis about them too.
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The drawings are a joke
I am not an artist. I can barely draw a straight line by hand. But I studied art history, perspective, proportions and colors, so I’m not completely clueless.
But you don’t need to be clueless, to notice how bad the drawings became. If you have two eyes and saw another human being in your life before, then you can notice by yourself how bad they are.
It’s not a secret that Lore Olympus’ art style changed over time. In the beginning, this comic was characterized by a lot of straight lines and geometric shapes, alternating and mixing with gentle curves. There were blur effects, colored outlines, a lot of details that gave an overall dreamy, ethereal vibe to every chapter (like the soft glow that accompanied the gods).
But as the story progressed, these elements disappeared. The geometric shapes gave way to an overall “softness” and roundness. The dreamy vibes and blur effects were replaced by sharper, clearer drawings. A distinct black outline now marks every character.
And speaking of characters, they were the ones who changed more. Lore Olympus always had funny, silly faces but the characters were also able to be serious and look natural. Now all we have are grotesque faces: the characters are a collection of caricatures and no one has a normal expression anymore. Check by yourself, by confronting a random episode of the third act with the first one: they’re two different worlds.
The disproportions were common too, since episode one. But at least they were somehow plausible, while now they’re completely absurd. It’s as if Mrs Smythe completely forgot what a human being looks like.
And this is pretty evident in how all characters became a rough draft of the two protagonists: all women got Persephone’s face, all men become buff and huge, with wide-ass shoulders and teeny tiny heads. This is particularly obvious at the end of season 2 / start of season 3, when we see some of the funniest images ever, like Hades with a tiny head and shoulders as wide as the entire USA
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Or this hilariously bad image of Zeus with clown shoes and a head as big as his deformed hand.
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No excuse can justify these drawings: no one is running after Mrs Smythe, nor forcing her to draw, and people are paying her real money to work on this webcomic. The least she can do is draw something that doesn’t look like a bad distortion of a human being.
Unless this isn’t her drawing, but her staff’s work. In that case, they are still paid to do their job, right? Or do they think this story is a joke and decide to show how much of a joke it is, by turning everyone into a grotesque caricature?
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In conclusion
Lore Olympus is hilarious because of how bad the writing is. It’s a manual example of how not to write a climax for your story. It’s a perfect demonstration of how you can still fail, even with great characters with endless possibilities. It’s a list of all the mistakes you can make as an artist.
If you’re a writer or an artist in general, please check Lore Olympus and study it. Here you will find everything you should never do and all the mistakes you should never make.
As a writer myself, I appreciate Lore Olympus, because I need works that teach me what I shouldn’t do. Good teachers are useful, but bad ones are even more useful, because it’s thanks to them that I can learn and grow and make better stories. Lore Olympus might be a failure from an artistic and writing point of view, but it might also serve as a foundation, from which other people can develop better ideas.
Actually, it already did it! Do you want to read a better story, rose from the disappointing ashes of Lore Olympus? Then check Lore Rekindled and @genericpuff: you will find their work here on Tumblr. They planned everything ahead and it’s pretty clear by reading it. The characters make more sense, the events have a more logical explanation. And the art style is much, much better than the last Lore Olympus.
We will meet again for the third and (for now) final post about this series, a much-needed post about the protagonists of this story: Hades, Persephone and Demeter.
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fool-errant · 2 months ago
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Hades 2 Theories maybe spoilers
So in the new update as I've progressed to kicking Titan ass - some shit has started to come up.
cut for people who haven't gotten there yet.
So Heph has had this to say. Also Aphrodite mentions rumbles nut saus its not Posideon doing it.
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I don't have any more screencaps cause I didnt think it was much until it kept beign mentioned.
And in Oceanus Narcisuss' reflective pond is cloudy. He's very upset about it - but t's not getting any clearer . Something has happed to fog it up. Prometheus also says hes - like doing us a favor to prevent us from getting to the next thing. The thing that is so awful the narrator can't even. So what is it? My initial reaction was this is Typhon.
Typhon is a monster that is like - the boss level monster of all Greek Myth. He aso is the father of a lot of monsters of Greek myth.
Typhon is traditionally the son of Gaia and...somebody. Sometimes Gaia and Tartarus (which is a place and a sentient thing.) Which might explain the water in Oceanus being affected. But that's a long shot. He's usualyl more associated with fires and volcanos. Unless he is the source of the steam that the valves are venting
He is also sometimes the child of Chronos. (Also Hera - going to Chronos for help to make something to kicks Zeus' ass but that doesnt quite fit here I think). Which would also give him a decent enough reason to pop in this family feud. Maybe he's the one asshole in the family to have a good relationship with their father. But is it Typhon? Traditionally Typhon is kept in Etna - which is a seperate mountain. And a volcano. Hephasteus uses him to power his forge. So the idea that Typhon could jsut - up and evacuate without Heph noticing his forge has gone out seems odd.
But Heph does also mention "his old forge" is sealed up for "security" reasons. So does that mean he's no longer working in Etna and so wouldn't notice the absence of Typhon? Though that then begs the question how the biggest giant of monsters got to the top of Olympus without anyone noticing. Is he tunnneling? So he's underground this whole time? Anyone else got a different theory? I can't figure out what it would be - but Typhon doesn't quite fit hte information we have been given.
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dark-elf-writes · 7 months ago
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I want a khr x pjo/hoo crossover so fucking bad
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Imagine the chaos
Skull the immortal stuntman is a son of hades who just,,, refuses to go see his dad because Reasons™️ and Thanatos lets him get away with it because he’s playing favorites
Hestia saw baby Tsuna once and went, “he’s Perfect” and gave him all the blessings ever (is he also a demigod, or perhaps a legacy? Maybe)
The gods seeing the Arcobaleno curse and just ignoring it because their assholes and don’t see it as their problem (the earthlings are some sort of divine race, possibly created to watch over humans so the gods could bum around)
Child of Hecate Mukuro?
Hibari has to be just Some Guy though, absolutely no godly blood
Reborn is also not allowed to be any part god, it’d give him too much power
(This spawned from the idea the Sky Flames are basically just Hestia and her hearth in a nutshell)
HELP THIS IS SO FUNNY
Skull being immortal not because wig any flame nonsense but fully because of his own daddy issues is perhaps the most in character and hilarious thing I’ve ever heard.
Tbh I want Tsuna to be a full demigod because the insult to injury of Iemitsu not even being his real dad and just in fact really bad at math is very funny to me but that leaves figuring out what god cucked Iemitsu. But I do however love the idea of him being Hestia’s little guy. You know she would be so upset with Iemitsu about Tsuna getting bound.
Zeus: *sees the mess that is the Arcobaleno
Zeus: Not my circus not my monkeys.
Hades: that’s easy for you to say. One of them is VERY MUCH MY MONKEY
Yes absolutely yes for Hecate and mukuro. (Possibly chrome as another child of Hecate or another god? Many thoughts.)
Oh hibari and Reborn have to be just some guys. Like there’s no other option. They would take over the world otherwise and it is also really funny for the two biggest god complexes to… not be related to gods in the slightest.
Squalo is a son of Ares. Xanxus is a son of Nemesis. Luss absolutely has Aphrodite blood somewhere in his family tree. Bel might be another Just Some Guy tbh that would be very funny
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pollsonmorenichetopics · 1 month ago
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Disproportionate Retribution Poll Round 1 Side B:
Lamia's (Greek Mythology) Disproportionate Retribution:
"Lamia had an affair with Zeus, so Hera robbed Lamia of her children - either by kidnapping or killing them - and cursed Lamia’s eyes to never shut."
Boston's (Only Friends) Disproportionate Retribution:
"ok so he was kind of shitty and also slept with the guy his friend was kinda sorta seeing at the time, except well the two of them weren't officially dating yet so it's kinda a grey area tbh (I don't think they even fully agreed to be exclusive at that point but I could be misremembering, but they were definitely not dating). Anyways his friend finds this out later on when he and that guy are now officially dating and decides to get revenge on Boston by obtaining a sex tape of Boston that was filmed without his consent (of him sleeping with a different guy) and then threatening to out Boston to his dad with it and holding it over him as blackmail. He also loses his entire friend group and is the only excluded from the main 6 in the end, even though literally every main character is a piece of shit and does shitty things and break laws and hurts each other but Boston is uniquely evil for having a lot of sex. and the show was even marketed on being the show about messy relationships and gay sex, but the one who does it the most is treated like he's the worst by every other character. Like one the main 6 literally recorded the audio of Boston having sex with the other guy without his consent and spread it around their friend group, another one literally engaged in reckless drunk driving and could have killed someone, after publicly revealing all of his friend's dirty secrets to everyone at a bar and calling the guy he had a fwb thing going on a whore, and several characters do hard drugs which is seen as a much more serious/bad thing to do in Thailand, but somehow Boston is uniquely evil and the only one who doesn't get a happy ending cause he likes sleeping around and isn't the biggest fan of monogamy and was an asshole about it (but again they're all literally assholes)"
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fandom-madness69 · 10 months ago
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I'm a day late and a dollar short but what's new?!
We have GOT to talk about the REST of the Thrill Ride O' Love scene. Especially the animatics along the walls telling Hephaestus's story. Because as jarring of a song as What Is Love? was in that scene if fucking fit so well!
First we get the Shadow Hera! Larger than life. Big regal gown, tall adorning crown, Mother of the Gods of Olympus, Goddess of Marriage.
And we get her getting pregnant with Hephaestus! All the way down to his little baby blacksmithing tools :3
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And then we see her throw Hephaestus off Mount. Olympus. As is told in his story.
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But there's a thing that really caught my attention here. Because in the rest of the story we see him leave out not a single important character to his story! So where is his father? The big guy himself Zeus?
Unless! They're going with the versions of Hephaestus's story where Hera miraculously convinced Hephaestus. Because we've seen Rick switch up the Medusa story. And wow do we love him for it!
But that's not my only point! Circling back to the song and then later on to the story about how Hephaestus trapped Hera, his own fucking mother btw in case that flew over anyone's head like it did mine the first few times I watched ep. 5, and so the gods offered him Aphrodite's hand in marriage in exchange for Hera's freedom.
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The whole rest of the time Hephaestus has painted himself the tragic dude in the story. Not necessarily the hero but definitely the victim. We see him get rejected by his mother. By Aphrodite for Ares, from the fucking BEGINGING, and then so on.
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But what really fucking gets me is not only did he do this ride exactly like this as a trap for his wife and her lover BUT that he had no fucking clue they were there! He was willing to force Ares to sacrifice Aphrodite, his OWN FUCKING WIFE, over a shield and not think twice of it. He wouldn't have fucking known they were there because as we can clearly see by this counter
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He clearly wasn't alerted to the presence of his wife and her love affair! Meaning they just fucking materialized in his amusement park, like gods do.
And the words of the song. Oh the words. "Baby don't hurt me no more?" How about you're the only one who has caused any harm since your mother tossed you off Olympus? And NO I AM NOT EXCUSING WHAT HERA DID! Don't even go there. That's for another time.
You repeatedly got rejected and bro I get it. That shit hurts. As a fellow Black Sheep of the Family™️ I fucking understand my dude. And I also completely understand how much gods don't fucking understand humans. And so it wasn't even a concept in his mind to do anything other than what his family had already done to him. Backstab, betray and barter.
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But to have the audacity to beg the woman who didn't want anything to do with you, still doesn't, and was forced to wed you to save her mother, YOUR MOTHER, not to hurt YOU anymore! Sickening.
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But he gets it. Now anyway. Or he's starting to. Because of Annabeth. Because she found a friend who is giving her unconditional love. Who isn't making her earn it despite having told her he would earn hers! And she's doing the same. She's falling apart and building herself back up all with this one (1) boy's help. And neither of them know it yet. But ohohohohoho they will soon.
And these few moments Hephaestus spent with Annabeth gave him the biggest vibe check of his fucking immortal life. "Maybe some of us don't want to be that way anymore either?"
Like Sir are you realizing that you TOO took things too far? Not even this time like you said Athena did, which btw she's always taken it too far just throwing this in here, but really? Are you getting it now? Did the twelve year olds fighting to sacrifice themselves despite everything fucking shake your world? Rock you to your very atoms? GOOD! You victim mentality, hero complex asshole.
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super-amogio-64 · 5 months ago
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Did anyone else find the ending to the Disney+ Percy Jackson series really unsatisfying?
The show wasn’t bad overall, though some of the acting felt a bit stiff and I didn’t like some of the changes. They removed a lot of the Cerberus stuff where he is neglected by Hades and just wants to play with someone. Percy and Annabeth were a lot quicker on the uptake about a lot of things, which was fine but removed a bit of the suspense from things like the Lotus Casino (I’m still disappointed they didn’t all get sucked into it like in the book - also, removing the taxi driver calling them Your Highness made me a little sad, though Percy learning how to drive the taxi himself made up for it) and Procrustes (they knew he was Procrustes from the start, and as such never got tricked into trying one of his beds). Other changes I didn’t mind so much (like the scene with Echidna) though I found it really odd how the had the whole thing around Medusa where it was like “don’t judge a book by its cover, not everything that looks like a monster is one” only to then turn around and go “actually yeah she is a monster”. It felt like it undercut the message a bit. Anyway, the main two issues I had were:
1.) Removing the scene where Percy makes the gods swear to claim their children by a certain age. It REALLY felt like a lot of the show was building up to that scene (Sally making Grover swear to protect Percy, emphasizing the importance of a sworn oath; the MULTIPLE conversations about how unfair it was that the gods treated their children this way; and the fact that it was solidly established that the gods have to obey certain rules) only to have Percy turn around and tell Luke, “hey, the gods are trying their best, okay?” Percy standing up to the gods had a lot more weight in the book, because he made his anger with the way they treated their kids clear to them, whereas in the show he did stand up to Zeus but then actively defends the gods’ actions in his subsequent confrontation with Luke.
2.) Perhaps my biggest issue in the show: Gabe Ugliano. When Percy entered his apartment, and Eddie said “I’m going out, you’re coming in. I should be apologizing to you,” I was fully bracing myself for a scene depicting how abusive Gabe could get. Instead, we got a Gabe Ugliano who is moderately annoying at worst. He’s an asshole to his wife and stepson, but SEVERELY toned down from the book. He’s mostly just kind of a jerk, who Percy and Sally have no trouble standing up to as he doesn’t really do anything but get annoyed when Percy stands up to him and quickly backs down when Sally stands up to him. They even removed the bit towards the end where it is revealed that he had been physically abusive towards Sally, leaving just about everything that makes the character so hate-able out of the show. He’s just… dislikable. That’s it. I couldn’t really bring myself to hate him because he’s just a dumbass. Now, from what I understand, the reason he was toned down was because Rick Riordan himself said that when they first tried to adapt the scene (in a more faithful way) it was uncomfortable to watch, which is fair: I don’t really like watching depictions of abuse (I had to walk out of Love Lies Bleeding, it’s a great movie but it was a bit too much) especially against children. Plus, I understand that this was meant to be a more kid-friendly show. But removing Gabe’s abuse means removing Sally coming into her own by killing him. Instead, Gabe’s death doesn’t feel as deserved, and it happens accidentally. Plus, even though they established that bad smells can mask a demigod’s scent from monsters, they didn’t include the reveal that Sally stayed with Gabe because his scent hid Percy. Again, I understand why they may not have wanted to keep the “woman sticks with her abuser” narrative for a kid-friendly show. But at that point, why even have him in the show? All of his narrative significance has been stripped away, leaving us with a character who adds nothing to the story. He’s just kinda there. They even made him unemployed, meaning the bit where Percy says on live TV that Gabe is giving away free appliances is gone too. TLDR: he isn’t as evil, so it doesn’t really feel like he gets deserved comeuppance when he dies at the end, and on top of that his plot significance is removed, leaving him as sort of a vestigial tail of a character that no longer has any purpose in the story but is still visibly there taking up screen time.
Idk, I liked a lot about the show, but a lot of aspects felt rushed. I wouldn’t mind waiting longer for season 2 if it meant it would be a more complete adaptation of the book it’s based on.
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flower-in-my-honour · 6 months ago
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just like, small thing i wanted to point out, ganymede. because i've just read the story and my conclusion is (even if i totally knew this before and am repeating myself and many other historians/people for the thousandth time), ZEUS IS AN ASSHOLE. none of the women, men, people or animals he raped deserved this, not that anyone would. just, that's why i hate reading about zeus because deep down, or shallowly, we all know he's like the biggest bastard in mythology. anyways, long story short, fuck zeus (not literally) and i really want to hug ganymede
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alinacapellabooks · 11 months ago
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In honour of Storytelling Saturday, here’s a snippet from the first draft of Night Of The Blue Moon, my very gay fantasy novel about adult magical girls, the titans, and an evil billionaire!
“Well, that’s one thing that you humans got right about Zeus,” Hades added, shrugging, “He’s the world’s biggest stuck-up asshole, and he’s a terrible husband to boot.”
“That’s big talk coming from a man who kidnapped himself a wife,” Phoebe quipped, glaring at him like he’d pissed in her drink. 
“Oh please, all I did was take Persephone in and show her the sights of the underworld. It’s not my fault that Demeter got pissy because she didn’t wanna leave,” he quipped back, shrugging, “Even if I could have held her hostage, I wouldn’t have done so. I’m not above kidnapping, but holding somebody hostage is where I draw the line.”
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quidfree · 6 months ago
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your favourite ancient greek myth and it's character?
oh god that's so hard. MYTH? there are a plethora. if you'd asked literary works i'd at least have a top 3. over the course of a lifetime maybe atalanta...????
in terms of heroic age i'd go trojan war bc it has a lot of basic heavy-hitters (i love both achilles and odysseus, classics 101 takes). but most of the heroes are massive bitches so like... they're not the biggest draw. and once it goes tragic it's the girlies i'm here for. i like the medea portion of jason's storyline. i like the antigone sequel to the oedipus mess. etc. perseus is the chillest ig.
i do like all the poetic orpheus/eurydices and whatnot but my favorites homer aside are just the god myths. especially origin myths involving petty god disputes. like i always loved the feud for athens between athena and poseidon. and just the very personality driven anecdotes like hermes stealing apollo's cows and getting out of that beating by inventing the tortoise-shell lyre, or young artemis making her birthday demands of zeus. and the back and forth disputes between the gods in any given war episode with how petty they are for the gods but how devastating for humans. also applies outside of war like artemis has 2 great ones w her lil boys hippolytus and orion getting murdered bc of aphrodite and apollo respectively just being assholes.
my fave gods from childhood have always been artemis, apollo and athena. love the fuckery the twins get up to (the niobe episode...) and their dichotomy, and love the dominance and fits of silliness/pique of athena.
also when i was in athens recently i was reading up about gigantomachia bc they have a great athena statue in the acropolis museum and there's an episode in that when she kills a giant by picking sicily up and knocking his ass into the sea with it, which is why sicily is its own island according to the lore. gotta love it.
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mask131 · 1 year ago
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This post is for all the anti-Zeus people. All those that consider Zeus is the biggest jerk and worst prick of all the Olympian gods, that he is an iredeemable asshole, that he doesn’t deserve anything and no one in their right mind should worship him.
Could you please explain to me why? 
I see everywhere people lash out at Zeus or crowning him “the worst god ever”. When I try to explain that the books of Riordan darkened a lot his image and are much more of a caricature than an actual mythological depiction, people do not believe me and say Riordan is not that far from the actual mythological portrait. This perception of Zeus is so strong and so lasting I want to know the why and hows.
What are your grievances towards Zeus? What are your accusations? What in his myths, legends or cult made you go “This is the real bad guy of Greek mythology”? I truly want to - desire to - understand your position. Please give me your arguments, your reasoning, your basis. Because everywhere people say “Zeus is bad”, but they never expand on WHY he is bad, as if everybody was supposed to know that. 
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chthonicgodling · 1 year ago
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THE COLOR WHEEL CHALLENGE 2 - ELYSIUM ~*PREP*~ EDITION🌈 OOPS ALL OLYMPIANS! featuring!
Ares
Apollo
Zeus
Demeter
Hermes
Hera (rip no dark blue/indigo text color again)
Dionysus
Aphrodite
committing absolute blasphemy against our cast of chthonic gothy deities by admitting that I actually like this wheel Better 🫣 I am not immune to rainbow sparkly….. in fact it is my biggest weakness….. bUT pls visit standard goth color wheel HERE
Im STILL playing with the viral color wheel from a month ago and planning on beating it into the deadest of horses but again, rainbow & me, iiii can’t resist. Round two features a real rarity of eight of the twelve main Olympians as they exist in their completely warped and bastardized forms within the Elysium’verse OC world, where every Olympian is a douche and goths rule our hearts
[‼️standard disclaimer for when I venture too close to real Greek mythology in that don’t take me too seriously and also PLEASE do not ever forget that HERE Olympians only exist to be mean and terrible and are all** assholes all of the time, as this is a venue for chthonic gods only 🥰 are the mythological olympian gods nuanced and morally gray characters yes!! Am I interested in exploring that at all not in the SLIGHTEST go someplace else for that. biased and skewed filters onlyyy]
**actually Ares is the only one here is NOT an asshole hilariously enough, as death adjacent god of war he’s actually one of Neo’s mentors! he’s not included when I say these guys all suck lol. Hermes is alright too
ideally I would hav liked to include some little blurbs about each of these guys as they exist HERE and their canon interactions w our actual cast but that essay list will come later.,,,, possibly fgh. or send me an ask or something to bully me into getting there ANYWAY. enjoy these glittery stuck up pricks 💕💕 They Are At Least Pretty To Look At Oh My Gods two more wheels left to drop but I’m fully peaking with this one ty!!
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✨✨✨ Divine ✨✨✨
A few truth that you're never going to learn in human religion.
First off deities are real second off deities are aliens third off they're not like the aliens you know
DTS have their own base in the universe they kind of have like their own headquarters and that place is called Olympus
Deities have their own blood it's called : Ichor
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Deities have divided in male and female
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God like adding a lot of religions no one knows is actually a super deity in Zeus is just an alpha deity
God is an extremely old deity who's older than the primordials he says super deity but he didn't start off that way all deities actually go through a cycle of being a baby and they slowly evolve into becoming an adult the life cycle of a deity is so fucking wrong as longer than a googleplexian
Deities have to have children to Survive
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God goes fucking crazy if a DAT dies or is going to die so he's committed himself to saving deities not mortals he even said and I will quote with God said
God//Allha/Ptah/All Father :
I care not for The mortals
I do not have a son I have no Divine children ( Aka Jesus )
I only love my family the other deities
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Deities in no way shape or form have to be human they actually polymorph
When a deity is able to get the energy the essence and understand the creature they're able to literally turn into the creature once they get the energy and the essence of a creature they're able to polymorph and that creature and be a perfect doppelganger that creature and also generate energies to fuel that creature
This is why they're right this is why there are deities for different things in the universe they can generate life force Essence energy you know what I'm talking about, You Get The Gist
They generate all these things and the older of God becomes and wiser the more powerful they eventually become as well
This is why I did he's get this supreme Almighty power to blow up a planet with a snap of their fingers but they don't have to have fingers because most of them are just energetic Being's
Aka, Like a Ghost
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Deities have problems deities have enemies deities are not perfect by any means God is Somewhat perfect, he still a humongous asshole to everyone he still is extremely extremely prickish he'll say he loves everyone then treat them like shit and he likes to set everybody on fire
God is the biggest pyromaniac in existence
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God is also one of my Sadistic beings, I've ever experienced.
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On top of that God is at Lily has one of the biggest fucking ego got us the biggest most egotistical antenna I've experienced a lot of different creatures that weren't human and I see a lot of very ego driven eagle Maniac eagle centric Souls especially The Reptilian people I've experienced a lot of shit but there is never been a more ego extreme entity quite like God
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God has the biggest Ego God revolves around Ego God is based entirely an Ego !
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Another fact about that he's that day he can't have babies all the time deities have a mating cycle every so often or every couple hundred trillion years deities eventually get to have babies
If for some reason if deities can't get a baby they go insane ???
Deity survive death by going into the white void the white boy strips away everything down to the bare-bone essence it rips the soul apart down to the sentient Consciousness and the essence they're even they're less than that even a mortal when they die
But the white void despite being an extremely horrible thing it also saves their soul from Death because when did you get old they self destruct when deities get old their power turns against them their power starts to rot their soul the power starts to rot with them
And sold that they are synced with that they power will begin to rot away and die too without a deity there is no life if the deity goes away it's like destroying the power plant down the road all your electronic devices die and they never work again
Do you think either exactly the same way the deity dies then everything they power goes away it just season to exist in physical reality
And generally God has a plan and a rule for creation and his people have to obey his Divine laws or his creation but the same fucking time this also an Olympian throne so there's kind of like two kings in the fucking Castle ?
But God used to get the fuck out of the way to whoever sits into the Divine throne of Olympus and that the throne of Olympus every so every so often Next Generation there's a new Divine leader of Olympus
And, This Divine leader doesn't have to be Male
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So I just want to let you got them know that oh by the way did you catch on to the fact that I said deities are not human beings and they don't have human nature
Did you also catch on the fucking fact that I said that Daisy's have their own blood
Deities polymorph DVD shapeshift and deities come from dimension called the Great chaos a great chaos of dimension like you never seen before it's a dimension where the place were you abandon logic
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Oh ! And Side Note : God has so much fucking power and so much fucking energy that he quite literally has to exist in his own dimension away from everything in existence because he can't even enter a limp through all the other extremely powered up gods and got us if you can't even fucking do that
God destroys everything that gets too close to him if God existed within the universe the entire universe would end with a matter of Second's !
I've seen God I've been with God I seen the colors of God and the spirit of God and the spirit of God is white and the spirit of God is more like a white Platinum Pearl but the spirit of God is made entirely out of fire the element fire god is a pyromancer God is a fire Spirit or a fire soul is the ultimate fire deity it still has all the power in existence
God is still optimistic omnipotent and omnipresent but at the same time the true God are the core of God or The God that you can you know talk to is walk yourself away in a different dimension and if you open the dimension it's like exploding all the stars and Universe on you within a fraction of a second you won't survive
You can only get so close to God God has to talk to you from a far distance away and even then his voice will Quake everything around you, when God speaks it really does cause like a booming explosion it really does cause a loud loud almost like he's talking with thunder or talking with the sound of thunder
God is so fucking powerful he has to stay away from everybody he want he still want everybody know he loves them in Olympus and especially loves deity babies but God is the craziest motherfucker in existence God is God is the most insane Looney tune there is if you ever been with God you understand something else by this nature he's completely and absolutely fucking insane
God is Fucking insane
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I Really don't give a shit if you think I blasphemed or not I'm being fucking honest
He's Almighty he's all knowing he's Omni present and He'S . . . . . . FUCKING NUT'S !
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redemptivexheroics · 1 year ago
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Guardians [Muse List]
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Garrett Thomas - A high school student who went from being the popular star football player to being the most skilled member of a group of peacekeepers, the Guardians. Thrust into this life without a say in the matter, his former life was abandoned unintentionally to serve a greater good; this includes people in his life, and after five years, his disappearance and the seeming death of his parents, leave him an unsolved mystery, he returns five years later with a mission and to piece his old life back together. Chosen warrior of the Greek Goddess Artemis. He possesses great skill and has the supernatural ability to shift into a massive wolf.
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Scott Parker - Scott is a Guardian and is a demigod, the son of Zeus. He's a bit of hot head and overconfident, but when he actually thinks things through, he can be a pain in the ass for anyone that takes him on, including Garrett, who he's befriended. He has a strained relationship with Zeus, he hates how his father doesn't think he's ready to fully embrace his godhood, and that frustrates him to no end. He's also a bit of a womanizer.
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Ellis Walker - A mutual friend of Garrett and Elizabeth, she's part of the popular crowd but, as she says, 'uses her popularity' for the forces of good; what that entails not many know, but she's got a good heart. She sticks around for E's sake after Garrett vanishes, at first to defend Garrett, stating that something happened, but when it becomes clear they are no closer to finding out what happened, she becomes Elizabeth's closest friend. And when Garrett lands back into their life, she is very distrusting of him and thinks he's just like every other jock, an asshole who takes what he wants and leaves.
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Phil - Garrett and Scott's mentor, he taught them everything they know and was the closest thing to a father figure for both, even with Scott very aware of his actual father. He puts the boys through tough training regimes to keep them at the top of their game. A former member of the Guardians, he's stepped down to serve as mentor and medium for the Gods. He also mentored Zeus' son, Hercules.
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Zeus - The King of the Olympians, Elizabeth's biological father, a fact that was kept from him, not knowing about her existence until she's put in danger and learning of Garrett's former connection with her. He started the Guardians centuries ago as a means of protection not only from Cronus, his own father, but evils among the realms. Zeus is considered very powerful, but as the gods rarely involve themselves in the affairs of mortals, but there are exceptions. He is the one that personally enlists Garrett to protect his daughter.
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Artemis - Zeus' daughter, the Goddess of the Hunt, and the one who enlisted Garrett as a member of the Guardians. She is the one that awakened the beast form in Garrett, and she alone can communicate with Garrett while he's in his wolf form. She's much more involved with mortals than the other gods, as she doesn't believe in standing on the sidelines. Her archery and sword skills are second to none.
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Cronus - Zeus' father and the biggest threat the realms face. His goal of destroying defiant realms since Zeus took over as ruler of Olympus has been his main focus. He's responsible for most of the darkness in the world. There is a prophecy that a member of Zeus' bloodline will be the one to finally defeat him, and he's been on the warpath ever since. Being a god and main Titan, he's crazy powerful; to challenge him without the aid of a god would prove foolish.
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the-firebird69 · 2 years ago
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there's some other stuff happening here. In Charlotte county John remillard is laying his life down he says for the cause and he certainly is but it's not for the cause and we're going to have to hit him and he's saying it too and we will and others are planning on hitting him too all night and all day to keep them away from our son because of the useless puke and it's going to be a battle until we can get rid of them. And we have a whole bunch of things to say tonight there's a lot of stuff happening here but mainly death is coming for you people you are rude crass moronic asinine demand tons of stuff and don't have power and we're going to take care of your little problem that you have harassing your son and us and we're helping out if I kill you if that's any information and if you don't care about dying like the idiot next door keep blabbing.
-there's another thing too this this pipsqueak next door is is the biggest meanest person I've ever met and it's just really mean and nasty is an old s*** and he needs to go and we should never have kept him around it's a big mistake everybody sees him bothering him all the time he's such a little girl he's like a b**** it's terrible I'm putting orders on it now
-there's a lot of things that he has to do and he has to go places and we want to get him out of here we're going to start the movies up in Apollo and got a swipe for here earlier and we want them to help out and direct people to do it
-Charlotte county lost a bunch of assholes and about 15 minutes ago and they were blown away when they were trying to creep up behind the max and they're trying to do it again with another 50,000 idiots and that will bring the number down to 200,000 and these are leaders dying and their groups are dying right now they're trying to go into the large land-based taproots and decide they have to try and get people here and they think they think the max are causing them to lose and we're publishing now even though they're attacking right now so he says in a moment
There's a few things interests are crazy here one of them is Trump and that guy needs to be woken up he doesn't have any power and Dave sent him a letter and I looked at the paper and it was that Peter odette's house Sunshine our son saw it he said it's an odd color it was like green and he thinks he was making some notes about scuba diving that's what it was and he was telling him stuff in space and it was about what's going on but Dave decided to write Joel a letter and tell him to shut up cuz he's teaching all this stuff and it's wrong
Thor Freya
Peter our dad is heading to the house Peter audette thinking that JC may be there may have escaped
Olympus
Hahahaha oh there you're going back there I see he says it LOL Hera and yes I did Zeus we're going to have fun with them Olympus
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