#XVIIIth century

[lesbianarthistory]

Carlo Giuseppe Ratti – Allegory of the thirteen values of the republic: the Peace embracing the Justice (after 1783)

[vintage-ukraine]

The Hours of Christ's Suffering by Unknown Artist, painted in the early XVIIIth century in Korsun, Cherkasy Region

[mauvais--sang]

Liebst du das Dunkel Tauigter Nächte? Graut dir der Morgen, Starrst du ins Spätrot, Seufzest beim Mahle Stößest den Becher Weg von den Lippen? Liebst du nicht Jagdlust Reizet dich Ruhm nicht Schlachtgetümmel Welken dir Blumen Schneller am Busen Als sie sonst welkten Drängt sich das Blut dir Pochend zum Herzen?

— Karoline von Günderrode (1780-1806)

[eyes-of-laura-mars]

[bishopsbox]

source: @lcrdbyron

Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun (French, 1755-1842)

Autoportrait à l’âge de 16 ans

[frenchy-wino-jerkface]

So, I was a queer teenager about fifteen years ago. Fifteen years doesn't seem like much, but in TV History, fifteen years is not even BBC Sherlock times yet. So, in Queer TV History, it's basically like comparing modern times to the XVIIIth century : there was the beginning of an idea of equality and justice, but we were clearly not there yet.

The sort-of-gay pairings I saw on TV didn't end up together, or only in some niche content I couldn't get my hands on on national television - and that was where we watched shows at the time. Sometimes they were gay-coded, but what happened most of the time was : the queerest one of the pair ended up alone, living his best quirky-lonely life, while the most straight-passing found a spouse and a respectable straight marriage.

At the same time, I was falling in love with my very queer best friend. These were scary times, we were kids. When she ended up rejecting me and running off, not speaking to me again and going into straight relationships, I felt like I deserved it. That experience, plus the way I saw myself on television, shaped the way I saw my love life. Like I couldn't truly get one.

Now, shows have changed. Shows are queer, and watched by everyone. There isn't just one sort-of gay relationship on the screen, there are several in the same show! And they fall in love, and kiss, and break up, and get back together, and are shown being gentle and loving and couples! Actual couples. I still have to pinch myself sometimes. Before they get together, and despite the entire show screaming at me that it's gay, I still feel like I'm getting queerbaited. I brace myself, I wait for the unavoidable rejection and pain and loss. And yeah, sometimes it's dramatic. But it's always real now. They kiss. They love each other. There's no shame in that anymore.

Damn.

I wonder what it would have done to me and my best friend if we'd seen these shows fifteen years ago. How different I'd be today. I'm a bit sad that I didn't get that, that I was shaped so differently by contents that wanted to make me feel like I didn't quite belong, that I didn't quite deserve to be happy.

I'm sure excited for you younger lots, though. Have fun <3

[lonely-parrot]

Ok, i have this thing floating in my mind and i have to share it! (This is my brain rotting between history and the marauders)

So, imagine, we're in the XVIIth/XVIIIth century, and Sirius and Remus live in a little town, where they don't have much money. At this time, mirror where like, super expensive and super rare, so not a lot of people got to admirr their faces

So (this is where it gets interesting!) imagine Sirius and Remus who want to know what they look like!

If Sirius asked his family, they'd told him to look at his brother, and he'd known. But Remus looks at him, truly, and tell him the exact shade of his eyes (like the sea before the storm, deep grey, full of promises and unknown), he describes the face he spent too long admiring in all it's little detail! (Like the mole under his lips, which Remus, i quote, always found fascinating)

And Sirius described Remus, not saying a single bad thing about the scars on his face (he was attacked by a dog as a kid, he was lucky to survive), and he tells him how he loves the scar on the bridge of his nose that always brings Sirius from Remus' lovely eyes (they're like autumn leaves, and the colour of the walls of the home that keep them warm) to his plump lips, and thd little skin that Sirius wants to feel under his skin (since Remus always bites his lips, he's just doing it, as Sirius tells him that)

Anyway, two teens, discovering who they are through the love of the other, kissing in a meadow, on a Sunday afternoon, after havinc heard of the importance of love

And they do love, they love each other so much

And as old men, they continue to describe their faces to the other, even when their eyesight diminishes, because they know the other's traits forever

Two boys who can't access mirrors, and who will find themselves prettier than if they ever had access to it

[talonabraxas]

Aten - Sun God, Solar Disk Talon Abraxas

The Cult Of Aten The God And Disk Of The Sun, It's Origin

Amongst all the mass of the religious literature of Ancient Egypt, there is no document that may be considered to contain a reasoned and connected account of the ideas and beliefs which the Egyptians associated with the god Aten. The causes of his rise into favour towards the close of the XVIIIth dynasty can be surmised, and the principal dogmas which the founder of his cult and his followers promulgated are discoverable in the Hymns that are found on the walls of the rock-hewn tombs of Tall al-'Amarnah; but the true history of the rise, development and fall of the cult can never be completely known. The word aten or athen is a very old word for the "disk" or "face of the sun," and Atenism was beyond doubt an old form of worship of the sun. But there were many forms of sun-worship older than the cult of Aten, and several solar gods were worshipped in Egypt many. many centuries before Aten was regarded as a special form of the great solar god at all. One of the oldest forms of the Sun-god worshipped in Egypt was HER (Horus), who in the earliest times seems to have represented the "height" or "face" of heaven by day. He was symbolized by the sparrowhawk, the right eye of the bird representing the sun and his left the moon.

[cripplecharacters]

Do you have an idea of disability as part of redemption arc ? Let's say, I have a character who's a professional executioner, from a dynasty of professional executioners, XVIIIth century. He was a real person, who eventually became paraplegic. Since, I want, for my historical novel to redeem him...He started torturing people at fourteen, maybe younger, and killed for the first time at age 18. He's 33 when the story started, and became hemiplegic/paraplegic (documentation isn't clear on this) at age 35, and was in a social circle of executioners and torturers since birth. Realistically, maybe, he would have little to no sense of belonging beyond that of executioner, unless maybe as head of house, which is again, liked to his position as executioner. He's a third class citizen, but an absurdly wealthy one, and no longer being able-bodied doesn't mean he can stop depending on the executioner buisness, it just means his son has to start killing at 15.

How do you think a man who worked for 13 years as master executioner of Paris, but officially because one at age 7, insuring his wealth but also the envy of his colleagues, would cope with being hemiplegic/paraplegic. Also, one of his potencial rivals was a man who in all likelyhood beated his mother, and probably him and his brother when they were at least teenagers. That master executioner was aged 35 when he lost his mobility to a stroke. The Mémoires of the Sanson family also described him a proud piller of his community, delivering charitable medical care to those in needs and one who enjoyed rough horse riding.

Thank you for your ask! This sounds like a case of redemption through disability, which is a trope that should be avoided. A disabled character can get redeemed, but it should be entirely separate from their disability.

Along with his disability not redeeming him, you should also make sure it doesn’t make him spiteful or cruel. Basically the disability should change what he can physically do, not who he is.

As for the second part of the ask, I first want to note none of our mods are parapalegic/hemiplegic, so we can’t speak for coping with these disabilities specifically. I’d recommend looking for first hand accounts of people with these conditions, or preferably seeing if you can find someone with them to ask or act as a sensitivity reader.

I don’t know much about 18th century French medicine, but physical & occupational therapy will be important as he re-learns tasks that were once easy and figure out ways to complete tasks he can no longer do. Studies show horseback riding can help stroke survivors with their recovery, though he’ll need to ride gently at first.

Have a nice day!

Mod Rot

I just want to say real quick, adding on to the case of redemption through disability, that the reason we want to avoid it is because moralizing disability is something that very much happens to real alive people every day.

Tying disability to morality often is 'disability is a moral failure' type of situation, but another way it affects people is the assumption that 'suffering' through a disability somehow makes you more 'pure' or 'better.' Like when you see some grumpy mean character get an injury and Suddenly They Understand Hardships of Others and they become a better person — sort of a mix between 'disability as punishment' and 'disabled people are innocent.'

This kind of seems like what you're doing here. There's a lot of historical fiction out there that uses real life counterparts. If you choose to do that and redeem a bad person, I can't exactly stop you. But I want you to examine why you think what's going to redeem him is the onset of his disability, rather than an understanding of what he did and attempts to do better.

Hope this helps,

–��Mod Sparrow

I agree completely with what has been said and just want to add that even disorders like traumatic brain injuries and strokes that can sometimes affect not only function but also personality should not be used as a moral thing, as mentioned earlier. More realistically impacts of a stroke on personality and mood are depression (this was my main symptom even with minimal other symptoms and damage), some impulsiveness or irritability, and mood swings. The disability, again, should not make them a better or worse person inherently.

-Mod Bert

[petite-madame]

Never knew I needed Sherlock in a kimono this bad 😍 Fanart that recreates cannon is really cool, but I think fanart that adds something brand new to the world that we've never seen and wouldn't ever get to see otherwise is on a whole other level of awesome, like it makes me incredibly happy yet it only exists because of you! So thank youuu!!! 💕

Hi anon ^^

Thank you so much for enjoying my new Sherlock series and for taking the time to contact me, it's very kind of you. 💗

Never knew I needed Sherlock in a kimono this bad 😍

Not the art you wanted but the art you needed apparently. 😂

I had the idea after going to an exhibition devoted to kimonos at the Jacques Chirac Museum of Branly Quay in Paris. You had all sort of Japanese kimonos (obviously 🤓) but also "western kimonos" that showed how Japan has been a great influence in western fashion for centuries now (but also an influence in movie costumes. You even had Amidala's costume displayed ! ^^)

The idea to draw Sherlock in a kimono came after I saw these two pieces:

These garments were called a "banyan wrapper" (XVIIIth century). The one on the right dates back around 1720, pure silk, the fabric was dyed using a resist paste applied through a stencil (katazome). A lot were mass produced but these ones were orders.

Anyway, kimono fabric was imported from Japan to Europe by the Dutch in order to make beautiful dressing gowns like the ones above. Flower embroideries were popular but also colorful and shiny fabrics. When I went back home and had a look at the pics, I had a laugh and thought that Sherlock, being the absolute drama queen that he is, would absolutely own a kimono, even in the 1880s.

I tried several colors but bright red was the one that fitted him the best ! I love drawing Sherlock wearing blue (and I did it HERE on Twitter) but the red kimono on him was *chef's kisses* 🤌👨‍🍳

So thank youuu!!! 💕

No please! Thank YOU for enjoying my art so much! And thank you also to all the artists who create fan art. It's not because I'm an artist myself that I don't appreciate it. So many great works out there!

Have a great Sunday 💗

Edit: a big thank you to @semiprofessionalmom for their help with the post (see comments section)

[the-mostdiabolik-of-lovers]

Can I please have Laito react to his bride being the daughter of an XVIIIth century french executioner, and one who enjoys the adrenaline rush with being mobbed ?

Laito: Bitch-chan, Bitch-chan~!

Laito: If you like crowds so much... Could you really be an exhibitionist at heart? The thrill that comes with being watched, doesn't that get your heart racing~?

[lesbianarthistory]

Unknown Artist (French School) – Two Women (18th c.)

[vintage-ukraine]

The Nativity by Unknown Artist, 1729

A fresco from the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra

[lafcadiosadventures]

Something I really like from Borel’s Madame Putiphar is the theme of a man who acquires (what is considered in the french XVIIIth century) feminine manners, through love/sex/ friendship, like someone who catches unconsciously the behaviors of their friends. And to make things even better, the female behavior is not explained in an essentialist manner, (since the novel explains girls and boys were not schooled in the same way) nor described as a negative trait/weakness, in fact the narrator only has good things to say about it

[eyes-of-laura-mars]

[cyniibar]

Do you think Madeleine-Claude-Gabrielle should have been explored more in Innocent ? She is the closest to Charles in age and blood. Also, the little we know of her, historically speaking. Out of all the children of Charles-Jean-Baptiste, her life was the most tragic.

She was (probably) forced to marry at age 16 Pierre Hérisson, the same year her father became paralyzed, probably after since the Mémoires place his stroke in January. Her husband lived in Melun, and the 10 year age gap, plus the fact it's a clear case of feminine hypogamy really makes me think it wasn't consentual on her part. Like, 16 year old girl of ill repute, in the XVIIIth century, with a paralyzed father (with plenty of healthy, adult rivals) who's perspective heir is an underaged klutz (Charles-Henry was bad at his job, and was known at the time as his father's clumsy assistant). To say she, or Jean-Baptiste, or Anne-Marthe would be easily blackmailable was an understatement. Also, the marriage would result in five children, all girls (one of whom named after her uncle Charles-Henri), which again, would imply rape because that doesn't look like a consentual union. Also, Claude would die in her fourties, leaving behind her daughters, the eldest of whom would shortly marry her uncle, Louis-Cyr-Charlemagne. What makes it extra creepy, even if she was 24 as opposed to 17...So, vulnerable young woman who recently lost her mother and grandfather. The only thing that made this one maybe more consentual is that they were likely not complete strangers. Appearently, they "as proof of their mutual love", decided that if one would die, the other would inherit the other's belongings. But that does sound like grooming, at least to me.

Anyways, do you think more of Madeleine-Claude-Gabrielle should have been included in Innocent ?

I do. She deserves some arcs at least.