#Wad is free on Dan's Youtube Channel

[thephouseplants]

Since I won't be going to the tour for a pick n' mix bag of reasons, I just wanted to say i really do hope the full thing is professionally recorded and put up somewhere.

Personally I Think selling it on a Hard drive that infects your Computer with DnP branded viruses would be very camp.

[simplydnp]

Do you think the recording of TIT (bc it has to be getting recorded at some point tbh) will be a dvd release or a youtube upload this time around? I forget if Dan said any specific reason why WAD ended up being free on YT, but I feel like after setting that precedent, there's almost no going back. Ofc, there is the precedent of the two actual dnp tours being dvd or YT Red/Premium releases, but do you have any thoughts?

oh anon i'm so happy you asked. bc i did so much research for this about WAD before we knew what would happen with it.

so. the problem with dvds is storage capacity. with TIT being 2 hours, that is a lot of footage to put on a singular dvd at the resolution that they'd currently want to. dvds come in 2 sizes: 4.7 gb and 8.5 gb. you can fit a 2 hr movie onto a single layer (4.7) but any longer, and you need the double layer (8.5). thus, TIT would have to be on a double layer, unless they don't plan on including anything else except the 2 hr recording. a dvd can't play high resolution footage, only standard definition (480p). so there'd be a picture quality difference.

this is where blu-rays come in. they can store and play 1080p footage. they also hold significantly more space (a single layer blu-ray can hold 25 gb, a double 50 gb). part of the trade-off here though is that higher resolution footage takes up more space. a single layer can store 2.25 hr of HD video; a double 3 hrs. they could get away with a single layer, and that includes room for 2 hours of standard definition BTS video.

problem is, not everyone has a blu-ray player (not like everyone has dvd players either). but the main issue is that DVD players won't play blu-rays--and this includes disc drives for laptops and PC's. you need a special external driver to do it.

we'd be wading into contracts and companies being interested in selling physical copies, and given how discs in general are sort of becoming obsolete, i would be surprised if they put it on disc.

our next option would be streaming. i don't really see them wanting to attach it to any larger corporation--especially given they're physical media guys. the thought of just losing something simply because a streaming service doesn't want it anymore, or the company goes under, would be enough to keep them away from that.

people pitched the idea of nebula or dropout, but i don't see them posting a single video on nebula and then nothing else. and since i don't see them as patreon guys, i don't think they'd want to do incentives for subscription style stuff. dropout would be more of a possibility, but they'd probably want to do more with dropout in terms of guest starring before entirely handing their baby over, y'know? like hank did a whole d20 season before he did his special there.

i do think they might just upload it to dapg. genuinely. because of what happened with WAD--both rights wise and precedent wise. but also, could be extremely good for them if they can actually monetize it. their longer videos on dapg do very well, and since WAD happened before TIT was fully ironed out, i bet they've included the prospect of doing so into their scripting, so it has the ability to be monetized on their channel. plus, the desire to make it accessible for everyone (even though they are trying to tour in more countries). depending on how that goes, it may be delayed in being released online.

a lot of technical talk but i am so glad you asked anon, i love logistics discussion!

[ibringthepoptothecinema]

i wanna go off on that anon who said dan charged too much for the wad kiswe stream LIKE ITS $20..... AND GUESS WHAT people recorded it and downloaded it and shared it on google drives so it's BEEN available for free so long as you ask around in dm's, phannies dont care abt money barriers, ppl just openly repost phil's cactus club posts. there's so much entitlement in saying he shouldnt have charged money if he was just gonna make something free like come on do you NOT want his show to be accessible? also theyre not fuckin elon musk rich yall like. they're petit bourgeois which means they still do labor theyre not exactly sitting on their laurels to make this kinda stuff like it costs money. venues cost money staff costs money STAGE PRODUCTION AND COSTUME AND LIGHTING THE STUPID GIANT CIRCULAR SCREEN ALLL OF THAT COSTS MONEY!! it's not cheap and yes tickets to go to the show were somewhat pricey (imo i thought they were fair prices and im saying that as a broke person who couldnt afford to go but still) but so much of ticket price goes to arbitrary venue fees or ticket "handling" fees like it sucks but it is absolutely not dan's fault

ok anyway my REAL hot take is that dan's show should have exclusively run in seedy gay bars similar to the 2022 pride shows he did in london but like $20 at the door and and it's at a location called The Sludge which is just someone's apartment illegally turned into a bar, that kinda vibe

Respect this opinion, definitely. Some really decent points. I think as long as everyone’s respectful, differing opinions are okay to have.

I paid for the show irl and I paid to watch it online. Seeing it free on YouTube did kinda make me wish I’d waited but I’m glad I saw the pre show and after show.

I know lots of people did streaming things and lots of links. But tbf to people, maybe they felt embarrassed or icky about watching it ‘illegally’ idk. I’m trying to see it from all points of view.

One point is though like, they are kinda very rich. Not like omg Bezos stupid amount but still, a hell of a lot of money. Double shared income. Multiple channels, books, tours, sponsorship, tv and film cameos. So being able to even produce what Dan did even on a smaller scale takes the privilege of having money in the first place. And notoriety. Not something the average person could pull off. 

£20 is a fair bit for people who can not necessarily afford it but really want to see the show/support Dan. But yeah, the money part really probably wasn’t up to him, charge wise.

Dan doing an Edinburgh fringe type of show definitely is a sick idea!

[goldenpinof]

i'm confused about the wad release, is he saying it's not (as of now anyway) going to be available anywhere for purchase and/or streaming unless you buy tickets for the thing on the 25th?

yes. okay, the definition of "sell sth on" is interesting.

as i understand it: after the shows are filmed Kiswe will have the rights to stream it for a few days, and then they (probably Dan's managers; or Kiswe itself??) will try to sell the rights (to the actual edited product this time) to someone else to make it a dvd, or put on a streaming service, or something else. i wonder if by "i get to keep it for me" Dan means that he will be able to upload it to his youtube channel or something (probably for free in this case, if youtube doesn't buy the rights to put it behind youtube premium (youtube originals is dead, do they even have a company that can buy the rights? no idea)).

distribution costs money, so obviously it's preferable for Dan to sell the rights and actually get something from this tour.

so, i really hope someone records it. i would love to. but my internet is shit, and the streams are always lagging.

[awkwarddezzy]

The Silence

Pairing: Dan x reader or Phil x reader 

Genre: romance, angst, a speck of fluff (I think)

Song: The Silence by Mayday Parade

TW: a lot of sadness

Word count: 988

Because listening to this song on my iPod made me think ‘You know you wanna fanfic this.’ This one’s gonna be pretty short since I still got a bunch of fanfics I gotta write and this is more or less something I wanted to get out of my head so I don’t put this on the side and never get back to again. Also, let me know if you want to see a part 2. I didn’t expect to end this in an open-ended way.

I didn’t know how it came to this. There was a time when our time together wasn’t on a schedule, when YouTube didn’t put a hindrance on our home dates and nighttime strolls. Somewhere along the way, secretive meetups transformed into occasional kisses and a few text messages every week. The burst of happiness I felt in the beginning dwindled into a small wad of optimism when I even get the chance to see him.

Seeing him nowadays doesn’t bring the instant smile to my face. If I do, whether it’s on an electronic screen or in-person, it’s a relief to remember he’s still alive, that none of his near-death experiences struck him to an actual moment of death. There’ll be a single second of being glad he hasn’t forgotten me, but other than that, we may as well just be friends. It’s as if the days we get to be alone together is our way to remind ourselves we’re still in a relationship.

We’re still a couple.

We should’ve broken up as soon as we realized our physical and emotional distance was coming between us. I should be the one to say “we should break up,” fragile words I can’t take back once I say them aloud. It should be easy. It’ll be the start of a clean break. Once we walk away from all this, we can walk away from the burden of our own love.

But that’s our flaw. Our love isn’t what’s making us unhappy. Our love is proof of a dream that came true since we met two years ago. Being his girlfriend is pushing us to be patient, waiting for the right time to reveal our relationship to the public. When we say “I love you” to each other, I think of how lucky I am to have him as my boyfriend, a guy who’s one-half of Dan and Phil.

Our problem is we’ve given up. Once the obstacles began to pile up, we didn’t take the time to address them. We left them to become an invisible wall dividing the both of us. He buried himself in YouTube while I focused on (school/work). By the time I came to terms that we were beginning to turn into the couple who spent so much time apart to the inevitable point of breaking up, it was too late to undo the damage. I was scared of bringing up the issue to him. Not once did we have a major argument since we met, and I didn’t want to allow our distance be the reason we fight.

So I keep my mouth shut. I cry myself to sleep to release my frustrations. I endure the indifference in his eyes whenever he films a video on his main channel or the gaming channel, his soft irises gazing at his best friend in a way that should be reserved for me. I keep a straight face when we go on a date and I see the new coldness in his eyes when he looks at me, the kind of coldness that makes me think he’d rather be doing something else than spending time with his girlfriend.

I’m dying so much in the inside. I want to set us free from the predicament, to end the silence and go back to how we used to be. It breaks my heart to have a boyfriend I don’t know if I can call a boyfriend anymore. I know he still loves me enough to stay with me, but I need more than our status. I need us to be what (your ship name with you & Dan or you & Phil) is supposed to be.

Ice cream weekends and my journal entries about every new memory we make together.

Being invited to parties and VidCon, albeit under the label as his friend.

Teasing him about his change from straight hair to curly hair and his tendencies to fall asleep anywhere and anytime.

And so, so much more.

Today is our second anniversary. Five hundred days since the day we first crossed paths. I woke up this morning to a text from him informing me he’s busy filming a couple videos. However, he promised to take me out tonight to celebrate.

He didn’t forget. Maybe there’ll be a miracle and we can have one night where we can genuinely behave like a normal couple. Even though tomorrow will reset to how we are now, at least I could be happy for a portion of the day.

I go about my day as usual. Before I know it, I’m at the doorstep of my home. I unlock the front door, and when I go inside, I’m greeted by a pleasant surprise. A moderately-large box sits on my sofa. Upon closer inspection, I find my name written on the top flap, along with a Post-It taped to the top.

Sorry it isn't much. Happy birthday love.

Trying not to get my hopes up, I open the box. Inside is something that literally brings me to my knees.

I take out every packaged journal in the box. One, two, three… I keep counting until the box is empty. Thirty. The same price of the first journal he bought for me on our first Christmas as a couple.

My throat constricts in a silent sob.

Maybe this is his way of breaking the silence. He’s doing it before I do.

Of course he wouldn’t be blind to my inner suffering. Only an idiot would be oblivious to how much we’ve grown apart these last several months.

A grin forms and I laugh like a maniac. It’s going to be okay. My one-night plan may not be for one night after all.

He’ll be done making me sad.

I stand back up and stuff the journals back into the box. With tear-stained cheeks, I head to my room.

I’ve got a date to prepare for.

[goldenpinof]

since youre into the business side of youtube im curious what your thoughts are on the watcher / try guys switch over to exclusive streaming platforms?

i did some digging and it sounds like they're using a product called Vimeo OTT (yes, THAT vimeo), which dropout also seems to use.

not really dnp related, since i doubt they would consider this move (since it seems to be more relevant for creation companies who produce a lot of series, a la buzzfeed), but i thought it might tickle your brain

aaah, i wish i had any thoughts on that!

i don't watch the Watcher or Try Guys. everything i know about them comes from commentary and drama channels. and we know what kind of a clusterfuck was the situation with the Watcher. stupid decision, even stupider announcement and reasoning behind it. i'm glad they backtracked. i don't really like it when people start putting their content behind a paywall all of a sudden. and if they police people sharing this content within the community. i would get a situation where you can pay for earlier access, i guess, but the same content should be available for everyone later, imo. especially, if previously everything was for free (like on Youtube, where it's monetizable). in the Watcher's case, their content is ad-friendly. so they make good money just on adsense and sponsorships. the question is, are they smart with that money?

aren't Youtube and Vimeo competitors? that's so interesting.

about Dropout. i heard Hank Green got a deal with them? idk the specifics and terms (like, are they producing/paying/buying, whatever? no idea). but his stand-up show is gonna be exclusively on their platform, it seems. and when i heard about it, i immediately thought of wad. dare i say, i'm glad we got it for free, and Dan can use as many clips from it as he desires anywhere he wants.

i don't think dnp would move to another platform either. well, for starters, Dan doesn't like making us pay for things we can get for free while he is also getting paid. if even Patreon is very questionable, then a video platform behind a paywall should be a huge no-no in Dan's household.