#Tragedy in narratives
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Sometimes, Things Happen (Ace Attorney Analysis)
I have more thoughts in my mind about Miles Edgeworth and the way he’s written in the Ace Attorney Trilogy and the Investigations duology so far.
There is one detail I appreciate about the way his backstory is framed.
Often in stories (movies, video games, TV, any media under the sun with characters and a narrative) we see a character’s tragic past as “something that had to happen.” That “they wouldn’t be who they are today if it wasn’t for their hardships,” their suffering built character and/or made them stronger, and that everything happens for a reason.
If we take a look at Edgeworth and the way he (and the narrative) treats his past, we are shown a different angle. The DL-6 Incident and its fallout are depicted as a negative event, one that ruined the lives of many. It was a devastating case for almost everyone involved (and even Manfred von Karma was worse for it, diving even further into corruption and going way past the point of no return.)
In later games, even after the DL-6 case is solved and officially put to rest, Edgeworth still refers to it as the time his life was shattered forever. It’s only through a lot of soul searching and reconnecting with old friends (along with new ones) that Edgeworth begins a new path in his life. I start to delve into speculation and head canon territory with my next statement, but one could argue that Miles wouldn’t be questioning his own morality and purpose in life if DL-6 didn’t occur and Gregory was still alive to give him guidance.
Ace Attorney’s writing is consistent so far in that it doesn’t consider its more tragic events as blessings in disguise, meant to give characters challenges to overcome and be their best selves. Instead these scenes show that “sometimes bad things happen to good people, and acceptance still doesn’t bring back the people who are gone.” It is a sad truth, but one that can probably resonate with players to some degree.
This game series might have some gimmicks, running jokes and pun-filled names, but when it gets into serious matters, it sure doesn’t mess around.
I truly respect that as a storyteller and reader.
#Ace Attorney#analysis posts#Lynn plays video games#Lynn thinks about video games#Miles Edgeworth#the DL-6 Incident#Tragedy in narratives#good storytelling#video game appreciation#this series is DEEP y'all and I probably just hit the tip of the iceberg#Love the writing for AA especially the first trilogy#it's so fascinating!
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one thing about orpheus and eurydice is you guys are all like “i’m different i wouldnt turn to look at her” because you are all familiar with the story of orpheus and eurydice. but orpheus wasnt familiar with the story because he was in it lol.
#anyway. its only really good bc its a tragedy. doomed by the narrative etc. he has to turn around theres no other end.#greek mythology#sorry. this ones in post jail now.
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Enough of the trope where memory loss undoes the damage or the corruption or whatever. More content where removing memories just removes the context.
The tragedy of needing to grieve and not knowing what or who you lost or why. The angst of having trauma and being denied the awareness that it's trauma. The suspense of being different somehow and left to wonder how and when. The tension of knowing that something is off and you can't find where it hurts. The Adventure Zone gets it. Kingdom Hearts gets it.
There is an aching inside you and you don't know how it got there.
#i think about xion or the stolen century and need to lay down. i'm so normal about them.#tropes#narrative tropes#memory loss#tragedy#angst#the adventure zone#taz balance#the stolen century#kingdom hearts#xion#writing#musings#hall of fame
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if tumblr loves anything, it's bitches who are doomed by the narrative. in this uquiz, find out what role are you in the tragic play?
#pls pls pls take it#ive been working on this for forever and a half#judas talks#medium uquiz#uquiz link#my uquiz#uquizzes#uquiz meme#uquiz#my quiz#personality quizzes#personality quiz#quizzes#quiz link#uquiz quiz#quiz#doomed by the narrative#tragedy#tragic
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hopeless time loop. the way out isn’t to save everyone. the way out isn’t to save even one person. the way out isn’t to change anything. the way out is accepting how it happened the first time is how it always will be. that’s how you acted, that’s how they acted, that’s how you would have acted every time if you weren’t given the curse of hindsight. the way out is accepting you can’t fix the past; you can only forgive yourself for it.
#there's this game i love called little hope that plays with these ideas (though not with a time loop)#i do love time loops narratives that explore how a person is confronted with their life and their choices#when forced to live the same day over and over again#and i LOVE time loops that try to reverse mistakes made and lives lost#but to see a character put themselves through loops upon loops upon loops#trying to rectify past mistakes (especially in the case where people died) only to be confronted with the reality it isn't working#and even in a loop where they save everyone the loop just resets#because the universe is essentially saying 'no that isn't how it happened and you know that's not how it happened'#it compels me!#i feel similarly about time travel where time 'fights back'#like this idea that there is a central timeline that time does not like being diverted from#so it will try to course correct itself#you save lincoln from an assassination only for him to die in a train crash#it's a cool way to confront the idea of fate#anyway all tragedies are hopeless time loops thank you for coming to my ted talk#a shout into the void#1k#5k#10k
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i lied. put your clothes back on. i’m going to explain to you how the codependent and homoerotic relationship between john lennon and paul mccartney caused the beatles to break up and ultimately led to john’s premature murder.
#doomed by the narrative#in a shakespearean tragedy type way#john lennon#paul mccartney#the beatles#mclennon#george harrison#ringo starr#paul mccartney x john lennon
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Poirot + ruthlessness AGATHA CHRISTIE'S POIROT (1989 - 2013)
"And he is ruthless, ruthless with those who commit crime. And they will be brought to justice." - David Suchet, BFI Q&A, Nov 12 2013
#poirot#hercule poirot#david suchet#agatha christie#tvedit#perioddramaedit#tvandfilm#poirotedit#*edit#poirot 1x01: the adventure of the clapham cook#poirot 1x02: murder in the mews#poirot 1x07: problem at sea#poirot 2x04: the cornish mystery#poirot 5x05: the adventure of the italian nobleman#poirot 12x01: three act tragedy#the contrast between his small stature#and sweet gentlemanly nature#and his ability to absolutely ruin your life if he wanted#is terrifying & police would believe his word over yours#even if you were innocent (hypothetically)#because of his reputation and high standing#which he has used before to create certain narratives#he even says 'i am the law' in the novel 'curtain'#the contrasts & contradictions make him very appealing#an element of danger in a smol penguin detective#AND ALSO#imagine poirot aiming the ice-y glare at someone#who hurt and disrespected you#poirot will protect you and care for you <3
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I made a silly uquiz while dog sitting"
(This is very Tumblr-core. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
#i feel like the 'kinds of tragedy' that Tumblr comes up with are always like the same three#tried to get a little bit outside the box but idk#bc honestly doomed by the narrative is great but whenever people go on and on about that i begin to suspect that they just haven't read#that many tragedies#idk i did my best#fun nonsense#pontifications and creations#note also: these 'kinds' of tragedy are not mutually exclusive#like. wuthering heights alone has like half of em and I'm not even sure I'd call it a tragedy at all#uquiz
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Yesterday for the first time I saw a post in a public forum that actually points out Marika has every reason to be so cold & distant towards Maliketh... thanks God.
The Two Fingers/ EIden Beast stood aside & let her entire family die, then when it successfully entrapped her in a literal divine prison it said “here we gave you a brother lol” like istg WHAT are you even saying. Her entire real family is already in a ditch !!! No prayers to the Gods help them! And now these Godlike beings are like take this random guy as your bro???
It’s confirmed in the base game Shadowbeast is like sleeper agent that the Two Fingers put there to monitor their Empyrean & off them if they try to rebel, no matter how earnest the Shadowbeast sounds. Ranni and Blaid literally grew up together & we still have to get rid of him at the end of her questline 💀 Marika was a young woman who had lost everything then forced to recognize some stranger as family. To her that must be some fucked up joke.
And get this, I do believe Maliketh and Blaidd care for Marika & Ranni genuinely, it’s a tragedy that they were born to bring “nothing but bale” to the person they love. Just like how Messmer, the beloved son in the Shadow, also became a curse to the person he loves the most in the end. That’s the doomed narrative they are trying to portray.
#er brainrot#the tragedy is THE LOVE WAS THERE !! it's just set up to be doomed by the narrative#not oh one party is unloved / mistreated by the other :(((((( gawddd#like gahhhh ok yeah sure think whatever u want but i'll sit on this reading of the lore#i were going to draw a comic about that which was why i been keeping my mouth shut about MaIiketh but the post i saw yesterday knocked me#tf out (a post in a wild analyzing Marika's actions with NUANCE and it's from someone i don't even know???? made my night fr)#so the feelings got out and i had to type this out
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last night i watched the first episode in supernatural and within 10 minutes i put it on pause because in NO way, through the 15 seasons, should anyone be happy with how dean's story ends with him dying whilst hunting
because in the 10 minutes that ive learnt about him is that he's spent his entire life fighting, and he dies FIGHTING
no satisfying narrative ends like that, especially not for one thats run for 15 years
#dean winchester#supernatural#supernatural meta#destiel#deancas#doomed by the narrative#except its not the elizabethan era anymore so why the eff are there still tragedies#but also ive not watched any other episodes of supernatural#I think he deserved a chance for something more#happiness#is that what the kids call it these days?
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doomed from the start.
twin peaks dir. david lynch // ptolemaea - ethel cain // yellowjackets opening sequence // the oresteia - aeschylus // road to hell (reprise) - hadestown // lake mungo dir. joel anderson // wolf in white van - john darnielle // planet of love - richard siken // neon genesis evangelion - "The Beginning and the End, or 'Knockin' on Heaven's Door'"
#doomed by the narrative#web weaving#tragedy#twin peaks#ethel cain#yellowjackets#hadestown#greek tragedy#lake mungo#richard siken#neon genesis evangelion#kaworu#mine
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Not gonna reblog the person answering a good-natured ask because I don't want to be That Person, so instead I'll just post this here.
The unsundered Ascians were tempered by Zodiark. This is canon. We get the optional dialogue (read: optional as in, "if you do not speak to the NPC that doesn't have the quest marker, you will miss this bit of dialogue/lore") from Emet-Selch himself during the Lv. 76 quest "Best Way Out." Image below.
#i understand that some people may hate this or think it cheapens the narrative#but it is absolutely canon#and ignoring it or dismissing it rather than grappling with the tragedy of it is in fact doing the characters and the story a disservice#ffxiv#shadowbringers
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The Tragedy of Hayakawa Aki - chainsaw man, tatsuki fujimoto
grief lessons: four plays by euripides, anne carson // chainsaw man, tatsuki fujimoto // deathless, catherynne m. valente // “untitled,” 2016, ink on paper, kara walker // james, clementine von radics // slide tackle, japanese breakfast // how to cure a ghost, fariha róisín // red glove, holly black // the letter, richard paul evans // interview with james hall, richard siken // ptolemaea, ethel cain // iq84, haruki murakami // the godfather, mario puzo // god's silence, franz wright // crush, richard siken // tumblr user ojibwe // when i was done dying, dan deacon
#csm#chainsaw man#hayakawa aki#aki hayakawa#webweaving#you know your girl is mentally unwell when she makes a webweaving post abt an anime character#web weaving#okay gonna spam every variataion fo teh spoilers tag now LOL#chainsaw man spoilers#csm spoilers#csm manga spoilers#chainsaw man manga spoilers#spoilers#hopefully that was enough#ANW#thinking about him SOOOO MUCHHH#man doomed by the narrative *twirls hair*#his character IS tragedy but i am still conflicted on which tragedy it is#was it inevitable? or was it preventable?#what is the hamartia in this story#is it a character flaw or his circumstances that were out of his control?#honestly think it can be viewed both ways#if he hadnt been so intent on revenge he wouldnt have ended up like this. but it was also circumstance bc makima is basically a god#but god gODD that last quote got me so good bc i was liek THATS LITERALLY IT#TAHTS AKI#anw after volume 9 i cried so many times after during the day and now im rotating him in my mind#my edit#EDIT: JUST READ A POST THAT SAID THAT GOOD TRAGEDY IS WHEN YOU CANT TELL WHETHER IT WAS CIRCUMSTANCE OR FLAW...#DROPPING TO MY KNEES....#thats it thats exactly it
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#this is a cry for help please i have loved this clown for over a decade#When Bruce says “I can fix him” I completely understand & not bc I want to fix him#but bc despite all the atrocities he has committed you can't help but feel compassion for him#Joker constantly struggles to not let himself be seen vulnerable but when he does oh God it breaks my heart#I wouldn't know what to do if I were aware that I'm being doomed by the narrative & i had no escape even in death#to have a fate as tragic as being forced to become a myth#a monster who abandons all traces of humanity to make sure that someone else never abandons his#A lonely man who lives in a world of the dead and must do as much harm as possible to the only living person before his eyes#After all horror and obsession leads backs to love. oh god imagine loving as much as he does#Love as something twisted as a source of tragedy and death as an addiction a wound that never stops bleeding and hurts more every day#All you want is to be free#But someone else is holding on to you and will never let u go bcz he is afraid of being alone#and without you the weight of the world he carries on his shoulders would kill him he needs u as much as u need him#both are going to drown together#anyways hahaha i luv this stupid clown#joker#the joker#batjokes#bcz i got carried away writing the tags :p
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#i could spend hours talking about how wonderfully unsettling some of the horror is#or how compelling all of the relationships are or how the narrative is such a perfectly constructed tragedy#but honestly instead you should just spend that time going and playing it yourself#little goody two shoes#lgts
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The thing about billy is that he was marked for death the second his mom left him with neil.
He was either gonna die by Neil’s hands or, as we saw on the show, he was gonna go down such a self destructive path it would send him into an early grave of his own making.
So him dying at 18 isn’t really shocking. The part of it that was never written in the stars for him previously is that in his final moments he got to take some of his power back. He made the choice to stand against his abuser (the mindflayer) in the name of saving someone else. He got to fight back against the thing controlling him and contribute to its demise. Something he likely would’ve never gotten a chance to do with neil.
The tragedy is that he dies anyway, and no one can even give him the courtesy of acknowledging what that tragedy is. Not the writers, not the fandom, not the characters within the show.
His death becomes Max’s tragedy, it can’t even be his own. Nobody cares what billys death means in the context of billys life. Just like how nobody cared about billy when his mom left or when his dad was getting physical with him or when he started lashing out because of the abuse.
Nobody ever cared for billy, so why was he expected to care about anyone else?
He was never treated as a person, just a presence. And an inconvenient one at that. So of course he was never gonna make it to a long fulfilling life. And nobody ever thought to step in and intervene because well, Billys a problem, right? So what does it matter if he’s gone?
And you start to realize how inherently cruel the entire stranger things narrative is because there’s a clear line of people “worth” saving and those who aren’t. And if someone’s too much trouble then well, they’re expendable.
Billy was too much trouble for his mom to make her clean escape. He was too much trouble for not fitting in to Neil’s ideals of the perfect son. He was too much trouble for max as a brother. Too much trouble with all the rage and hate he had built up for the world around him for not protecting him.
So in the end, really, what was left for him to do?
#billy hargrove#his narrative could’ve slapped so severely in the hands of capable writers#because it’s just never acknowledged! and it infuriates me!#that’s why I hate when people try to say billy got a good death or it was satisfying within the idea of it being a tragedy#like no it wasn’t!#it COULDVE been had they taken the time at all to give us billys perspective#or to put any kind of weight to it#but instead it was ‘how does this affect max’ and then just shit all over him every chance they get#there’s no thought or care put behind it at all#the tragedy is that the carelessness the duffers have for him as a character unintentionally reflects the carelessness of the in universe#characters towards him
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