#Toby litt

[zinnie-zoloft]

“Love to see Neil Gaiman failing” HE DIDN’T FUCKING CREATE THIS SHOW

He had absolutely nothing to do with it, he didn’t write the comics it was based on or work on the show, he created a couple characters over 35 years ago and that was it

Stop giving him credit for shit he didn’t do, he is constantly being credited for other creators work, he doesn’t deserve any of that

Toby Litt wrote the comics that got adapted into a show by Steve Yockey and Beth Schwartz, those are the people who deserve credit

[romancelvr]

How Dead Boy Detectives is free from NG

I realize the title is a bit eyebrow raising, but I am here to lay out how Dead Boy Detectives, both the comic and TV have actually very little to do with NG. His name as of late has (rightly) been dragged through the mud, but Dead Boy Detectives in actuality does not deserve to be dragged down with him. 

To start with: the comics. Charles and Edwin made their first appearance in Sandman # 25 in 1991. They weren’t associated with the name “Dead Boy Detectives” until the Children’s Crusade arc starting in 1993. 

Starting in 2001, these characters were written exclusively by Ed Brubaker and Jill Thompson with no contributions or writing by NG. It wasn’t until 2013 they were granted their own comic series. It was ordered by Vertigo and written by Toby Litt and Mark Buckingham. They were the writers that created and introduced Crystal Palace. 

Most important THIS was the comic series the show is based off of. NG didn’t write or work on this comic series at all. When the comic series was originally published both Toby and Mark were interviewed about expanding these characters away from the Sandman comics. 

Their work is the basis of the show we’ve all grown to love. Back before the show debuted in January 2024 Toby was even interviewed about how excited he was to see Crystal on screen as she was a character HE created. 

Regarding the show, Steve Yockey was the one who approached WB/DC about the series and bought the rights to the show himself. 

Backing this up is per copyright holdings for DBD, the show is entirely owned by WB where Steve is employed with an ongoing deal that started in 2022. 

On NG’s tumblr he himself stated multiple times he had nothing to do with the show, that it is entirely Steve Yockey’s. 

In summation, despite the fact that these characters debuted and were in a few issues of Sandman, NG has had nothing to do with them since 1994. In regards to money, which I know is the hot button issue for everyone, if NG makes money it would be a very small amount, if indeed he makes any at all.

For nearly 30 years these characters have had a life of their own, and deserve to stand on their own merit. Starting with the many wonderful writers who gave them their own voices in the comics, to the writers of the show and finally the cast who brought them to life onscreen. 

Please grant them that respect and don’t drag them in with NG they do not deserve it. 

UPDATE 9/7/2024

I wanted to add further evidence my friend was kind enough to send me regarding this matter. Doing a search for NG on this site: https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First the US Copyright database verifies NG OWNS NOTHING of Dead Boy Detectives.

Not the characters, their names, anything even from the comics back in the 90s. If you want to search and check yourself feel free to on the link above. I just wanted everyone to know this as I'm not giving up on saving this show.

[shaylogic]

On Crystal Palace's neglectful parents

[ticktockheartstop]

Toby Litt and Mark Buckingham’s run of Dead Boy Detectives was brilliant. It’s so upsetting that they only got 12 issues 😩😭

Like seriously? It ended like this and no one wanted more? I’m sick.

[lattewithatwistoflemon]

Edwin, no! Don’t tell me you’re straight in the comic???

[chainsawcorazon]

i already spoiled myself with the “edwin is legitimately in love with charles and this angle has been 30+ years in the making,” so reading the litt books is just fascinating. that gay lil edwardian boy is so funny. in love and in the closet and will never stop calling his crush a skirt-chaser. now mind you charles is absolutely a girlkissing skirt-chaser, but edwin’s jealousy is peak comedy 😂😂😂

[tobylitt]

My Arrest

Yesterday morning, at around 11.20, I was arrested for the first time in my life. As far as I’m aware, no member of my family has ever been arrested before. It felt embarrassing, empowering, necessary. I was arrested after taking part in a non-violent direct action on behalf of Writers Rebel. This involved the pavement outside the Institute of Economic Affairs and a dark liquid that was…

[nina-x-toby-insanity]

Designs will probably change esp 4 Toby

[dead-patrol]

ily all but for the love of god neil gaiman had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of any characters in the series other than the boys. he wasn't even the person who made edwin queer.

[scary-lasagna]

Masky teaching toby how to drive? (Can be headcanons or can be a little prompt however you like!)

Although this would be incredibly wholesome, with Tobys trauma he would never set foot behind the wheel unless it was an emergency and it was to run someone over.

He’s too traumatized form the car accident with Lyra and the injuries and everything that came along with them, that he gets panic attacks from even a revving engine of a car on the tv. He won't even ride a tractor lawnmower.

Toby AU where he’s not terrified of cars.

“Alright, remember the meme we talked about?”

Tim sat antsy in the passenger seat, although he didn’t show it through a bouncing leg or a shaky hand through his locks, his eyes were darting around the car.

Toby had already turned on the radio to "ease the tension" but really it was driving Tims' nerves up the wall.

“The PRNDL?"

"Yes, the PRNDL."

Toby looked over toward Tim, and if he hadn’t been afraid of insulting him and ending the lesson prematurely, he would have commented on Tim’s terrible state.

Toby’s foot wasn’t even on the brake yet. Granted the car wasn’t started but it’s the PRINCIPAL.

“So you know what all of them mean?”

Tim was mainly saying this to reassure himself he wouldn’t be broken into itty bitty Timmy pieces by the time the ride was over.

And to stall the impending doom, of course.

"Yeah."

"Alright. Now, do whatever you feel is right in order to get this car from here to that parking space.

An empty parking lot seemed to be the best option, they were going to do it on the front lawn of the manor with the golf cart, but Tim couldn't help but think of every "Toby-Scenario" in the previous week.

Yeah, that wasn't happening.

Toby pressed the start button to the car. He did not press it long enough.

"Tim this car is fucking broken, all the lights are on"

"You're on the accessory mode. You need to start the engine."

"O shit you're right haha."

[rab1dh4b1t]

What's your favorite show? Mine is Happy Tree Friends...

Call me cringe idc /lh but yea idk i love it too much. Plus major fluttershy kinnie unironically.

Who would've thought

[shaylogic]

Feeling emotional about some stairs parallels, don't mind me.

[ticktockheartstop]

Edwin being jealous of Crystal but not admitting/recognizing his feelings for Charles 🙃

[lattewithatwistoflemon]

Comic book Crystal is so adorable! <3 She’s a gamer and cosplayer, so she’s much more relatable for me than the Netflix version. Her parents seem to be extra creeps in the comics though (well, probably just because they have more “screen-time).

[skenpiel]

HAPPUY 8TH BIRTHDAY UNDERTALE SORRY I DIDNT HAVE THE ENERGY 2 MAKE A FULL DRAWIG THIS YEAR...............i was just too sleepy it turns out

[sickly-sindy]

Toby : Maddie , are you sure this is a good idea , if slender finds out. Your dead meat.

Little Maddie : relax , as long as we are quiet no one is gonna know

* in the vents above slendermans office *

Maddie : shhhhh. Be quiet here he comes

* slender walks in to the room , sits down and messes with papers*

Slender : I quite believe masky will make a great party planner for laughing jack's birthday

Little Maddie *screams in vent " : ARE YOU JEFF THE KIDDING ME !?!?!?!?