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#The death of Priam
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Antonio Ricciani (print maker), Pietro Ermini (after drawing by), Pietro Benvenuti (after painting by) - The death of Priam, 1820. Engraving.
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wolfythewitch · 11 months
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thinking very hard about the depiction of the fall of troy in the Aeneid
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hamletthedane · 5 months
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These lines from Elisa Gonzalez’s After My Brother’s Death, I Reflect on the Iliad have straight up haunted me for years
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illustratus · 6 months
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The Death of Priam by Pietro Benvenuti
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sealrock · 6 months
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the major arcana, shuffled: 4/??
THE HIGH PRIESTESS; ⤉ spirituality, higher power, mystery, subconscious ⤈ hidden motives, secrets, repressed intuition, cognitive dissonance THE EMPRESS; ⤉ motherhood, femininity, nurturing, harmony ⤈ smothering, negligence, lack of growth, insecurity THE EMPEROR; ⤉ fatherhood, structure, authority, control ⤈ tyranny, domination, recklessness, rigidity
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catos-wound · 3 months
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the-storyteller78 · 2 months
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Little Troy
TW: violence, death, child death
Troilus knows of the prophecy that sings his name. It is a promise of life, of victory.   
But he also knows that every time he looks in the mirror, he sees death.
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ukdamo · 8 months
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On The End of the Iliad
Rowan Ricardo Phillips
They brandished their births like spears. Being there wasn’t enough. Their names Needed their fathers and their cities And their spears and the red air of Ilium.
There’s Apisaon lying on his liver As it curdles and leaks out rib-mangled From his wound like a clicking tongue In froth, mind-deep in its porn.
A grey scholar near the end of his talk Pauses, turns hazel in the maze of his thoughts, And as he gazes out the window asks, Why would the father at the end of the Iliad
Peer into Achilles’ tent and, through the bloodgold fire And smoke-slow seafog, pismire and simply stare At his son’s stupendous butcher? He waits for an answer from the weather.
He kneels before the cancelling hands of Achilles That did what they do to the dead of his son Because they could; and he kisses them. The father is our first noble disaster.
He knows his role. He knows he’ll beg. (Though not for the life: the life’s already gristle.) He’ll beg for the body. He’ll beg like a pagan for the body.
Even those who survive Achilles don’t. Priam returned, finally, to Troy’s dented doors And with every step he took toward the parting gold ruin,
Hollowed-out Hector bucked up and down on his back.
Even iridescent Helen, a trail Of billowing silks, poured herself From her paramour’s arms And descended with the rest to see
The sieged city surging to see its broken Breaker of horses. Half shout: “Hope!” Half bray: “Brave patriot’s sacrifice!” But Priam can’t bear to look at them.
He only looks back dimly at the door.
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littlesparklight · 8 months
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The Iliad: gruesome descriptions of lethal wounds, voiced with the narration's full chest.
Also the Iliad:
"Prophet of evil, never yet have you spoken anything good for me, always to prophesy evil is dear to your heart."
"Troilos the chariot fighter"
(Book 1 and 24, trans. Caroline Alexander)
Something something certain violence must only be looked at askance, mouth covered, whispered, denied, rephrased. It did not happen, or it happened but we can't admit that.
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Pietro Benvenuti - The death of Priam, 1811.
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wolfythewitch · 1 year
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Holy Shit Aeneas's description of the final hours of troy is harrowing. Priam's death? The city burning up? The fall of his comrades? Hector's ghost, covered in wounds handing him the household gods? Oh my god. Ohhhh my god
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hamletthedane · 5 months
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I hate dating apps I need to meet the love of my life more organically*
*in hand-to-hand combat before the great walls of the City of Troy
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illustratus · 1 year
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The Death of Priam by Pierre-Narcisse Guérin
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sealrock · 3 months
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Poor Paris, their teenaged years looked to have been really bad. But this makes me wonder. Has Hector ever met Andromache's family?
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... you pose an excellent question, anon. I actually haven't thought out that part of the story yet, only because I didn't think andi would return to ul'dah after what happened in her past—everyone except cassandra thought she died in the ferry boat accident, and it would be at least 10 years for her to appear again
but this creates a psuedo plothole in which I don't think her father would've been all accepting of a strange kid coming to live under his roof (he considers cassandra's house his house, priam bought it for her)
but now you got my wheels turning. I imagine things wouldn't have went so well for andromache returning home:
so in my drafts, andromache was rescued from drowning by achille and became his apprentice in ascian hunting, she was essentially his ward. when hector joined the party, he wasn't familiar with how things worked in eorzea, so he was a fish out of water without the help of the others. fast forward to him and andi becoming a couple and paris' birth and so on and so forth
but if hector had the chance to meet andi's family, it would not have been a joyous reunion. on top of letting your family believe you perished, you suddenly reappear as a hunter-for-hire accompanied with two strangers. hector's memories of his familywere fuzzy at best, if not straight up imagined. so watching andromache interact with hers in an extremely impersonal manner made him uncomfortable, knowing how much love and physical affection she gave him. her relatives, minus cassandra and idomeneus as he was still a kid then, were both nosy and judgmental of hector. it made him feel like he was under a microscope
I also think he would've disliked priam, and vice versa. it was bad enough for andromache to outright refuse returning to live under his thumb, but seeing how she chose someone like hector as a romantic partner stuck in priam's craw in the worst way: no connections, no wealth, and above all, a garlean when political tensions between the empire and dalmasca (the motherland of the tatlongharis) were steadily climbing. priam would've no doubt voiced his contempt and disappointment, and he certainly wouldn't have blessed a union between them if they were to marry
he gave andromache a choice: abandon her lifestyle as an adventurer and return home, or be banished. it was an easy choice for andromache given the unresolved trauma she had regarding her mother, even if she could never see her family again
that made hector feel immense guilt and disgust; guilt for coming in between andromache's family, and disgust for how her family could toss her aside like day old trash. ofc he wouldn't have imagined paris living with them, but the circumstances were out of his control by that time. andromache was banished, yes, but that didn't mean her children were. priam was conflicted, but as head of the household he ultimately allowed paris to become part of the family unit; andromache was his favorite child after all
so if hector had a say so in things, he would've never allowed that to happen. he knew family was important to andromache, but letting his child stay in that environment would've broke him worse than anything he experienced up until that point
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adriles · 1 year
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I’m curious which war crimes you do and don’t approve of
i enjoy any war crime induced by rage, racking up a ton of kills, maiming every enemy combatant in sight. only shitheads kill in attempt to live up to the heroism of others
#thinking about malouf’s ransom specifically here lol#when he writes achilles’ having a vision of priam’s death at the hands of neoptolemus#with the attempt of avenging his father. but their is nothing to avenge. same with polyxena#in hecuba they have it be tbat achilles’ spirit comes before neoptolemus and tells him to kill her to return#but i could just be a euripides hater with the exception of his helen play but. that doesnt sit right with me#it is to appease the wind in the same way iphigenia was to appease the gods#it was bound to happen anyways. but it is upon achilles’ grave as neoptolemus again sees himself as avenging his father#it is an unsatisfying act. all that killing for the sake of achilles#sure u can be like. polyxena led him to the gates#but she didnt kill him that is paris and apollo#but paris is already dead so who is left for neoptolemus to target as his father’s avenger#it is a role without any use. it is pointless.#and when we see achilles in the odyssey he barely cares about the news of his own son beyond odysseus saying yeah he is chilling#it is more to lament his own suffering#i dont think achilles cares in the end about neoptolemus. he is just a boy like his father bred for war and desperate#for purpose and attachment#beyond that tho. i dont think achilles would approve of killing priam like that is the main thing#he is not above violence to the man. he threatens him in book 24. but in the end there is a respect there. for the grief and loss they share#malouf writes about the shame that follows neoptolemus after everything#and i think that is a far more poignant thing than disappointment from the father you barely know#to carry the weight of your actions knowing that your father would so differently#again achilles is a piece of shit and would do the same if not worse in his son’s place#but in his place toward priam he wouldnt. and neoptolemus reaps that destruction anyways#this is long winded the point is the shame rather than the actual disapproval of war crimes lol#i will say i dont think achilles’ rage and revenge is to the same level. he laments after patroclus died that it hurts more than he thought#because he would think losing a father or son to be more heartbreaking#but no it is the loss of the equal and confidant that hurts the most#but neoptolemus never knew his father. this isnt for his father’s personal sake it is for his legacy + where neoptolemus will end up with it#and therein lies the difference. they have that familial bond but no real connection#ask
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faithfulcat111 · 4 months
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ST Epic Cycle AU - The Sacking of Troy
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