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I’ll post this and runaway but… what if the twin isn’t Copia?
What if the Twins were Secondo and Terzo?
#It is said they were “3 months apart” but what if that was a way to mask that they were actually born together?#We saw one blond twin and one black haired one… we don’t know what color of hair Secondo had but we know about Terzo#(He liked to remind us his black ink color)#The fact that Secondo is portrayed with Terzo’s color and his lightings looks like a mix of the two#I’m spiraling for real#Anyway I still strongly believe that past Papas will play a role in the near future whatever it is#Ghost shows will be very different with the next tour TF said…#the band ghost#The band ghost theories
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What if the Ghovie comes out June 6 at 6am?
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#it would be fitting for our beloved antichrist#ghovie#666#ghost#the band ghost#copia#papa iv#papa emeritus iv#ghost lore#ghost theories#the band ghost lore#the band ghost theories#secondos prime queuer
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RITE HERE RITE NOW SPOILERS AND THEORY
( im sorry I don't know how to do under cut on mobile)
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I've had a thought .. bare with me with me
I'm crediting @silverghostxox on ig but also theorising with myself as well here
Obviously, after watching the movie and the Hot air balloon sequence, along with the Clicking of the shoes in the last scene much like Like Dorothy in the wizard of Oz. That's a nod to that. But ..
Notice how copia does the "no place like home" click of his shoes near the end of the film? And respite of the Spitalfields also ironically mentions the wizard of OZ and how Dorothy goes home at the end of the movie.
Song mentions
When the curtain unveiled, to the sound of applause, that the king that we hailed was the wizard of Oz.
But also a foreshadowing
Imperator wore red shoes, and when she was covered over by the white sheet, her Red heels were sticking out much like the Witches Red shoes when the house fell on her. In the movie the wizard of Oz the slippers represent the ability to triumph over powerful forces.
I'm sorry this is so long. It is mainly me just talking to myself writing shit down so I can just vent, but remember the city of Meliora? In square hammer, it was green, and I've always thought that was a nod to the emerald city, and green means money, which mummy dust (eh, this is an entirely dif side quest a thought for another time)
A message is that people will march behind any authority figure who makes a splash, however undeserving they may be.
Let's see the twin brother : We will break away together, I'll be the shadow, and you'll be the light.
Maybe a nod to his twin, perhaps? One is the dark half, and the other would bring the light one. One will eventually kill the other one if we go back to the romulus and Remus theory. But which one. (Dunno) now then my fellow antichrist theory mutuals is this could still happen.. I say that because obviously we assume Copia has the mark 666 and Sister did mention something about how he will come to understand that one day ending means the beginning of a new one and that after a night of darkness.
Obviously I'm very much shitghosting and ballparking alot here and I don't claim anything as stated I'm only making links and parallels here and there 😅 I'd love to pick other people's brains here thoughts and theories. ^^
#Rite here rite now spoilers#rhrn spoilers#the band ghost#papa iv#the band ghost spoilers#the band ghost theories
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Yeah I can't unsee it now....
And as all of you know I'm a super huge lover of Nihil 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I BET ON NIHIL CORPSEE
#lets see where this goes#either way im thrilled for more ghost chapters!!!!!#chapter 17#ghost#the band ghost#ghost theory#the band ghost theories
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#this is the only way id accept terzo still being alive as a theory#terzo emeritus#terzo#papa terzo#papa iii#the band ghost#ghost bc
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listen, I want Copia to turn out to be the Antichrist and I want him to be the most inept antichrist Satan could ever fear to get. I want to see him in diabolical situations in which his awkward autistic ass is just so out of place it confuses even the emissaries from hell/heaven/whoever he's trying to impress. let him try to fistbump god when he's supposed to fight him and go 'he he he' at his own jokes before solving a problem in the least antichrist way possible, creating more problems for the ministry and making everyone question their life choices.
#that's why I want Copia to be the antichrist lol#and for him to fucking survive this but that's a given#anyway uhhh#ghost bc#the band ghost#ghost the band#ghost#Cardi C#Cardinal Copia#Popia#Papa Emeritus IV#Rite Here Rite Now#rhrn#the antichrist theory
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What is this is literally just like a mini 8-bit/16-bit whatever video game that they have on their site where Copia is in a car driving away from the Ministry while Saltarian and his mother (Seestor) chase him down with ghost Nihil sits in the back seat 🤣🤣🤣🤣
05-19-23
ghost-official.com
#8 bit papa?#video game copia?#ghost#the band ghost#ghost theories#the band ghost theories#just saying it would be fucking hilarious
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I’m still not over this
I found some new Procreate brushes today~
#Not sure how I feel about this but new brushes always help break up the art block so…#we’re getting somewhere#trying to do more textures and non-local color#color theory is not my strong suit though so if anyone has advice please hit me up#the band ghost#my art#frater imperator#cardinal copia#papa emeritus iv#ghost band#father imperator
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Hi so I'm new to ghost and I'm catching up on all the lore and past and present theories, can I ask what is the twin theory? Both the copia twin theory and I'm interested in what you've posted before abt the twins actually maybe being secondo and terzo? Like what twins with black and blonde hair r we even referring to😭
Hi dear, welcome to the Ghost fandom!
The “Twin theory” comes from a scene in the Ghost movie Rite Here Rite Now (2024), where at one point we see a series of flashbacks (I don’t post the full clip because there are also major spoilers in it ) in which Sister Imperator— we rightfully suppose—was pregnant with, again we rightfully suppose, Copia (Papa Emeritus IV). The fact is that we see two children being born, and in one of those brief scenes we see the twins, a little grown up, from behind: one appears to be a brunette and the other a little lighter.
From here my silly theory you read 😅
Other elements included in the flashbacks and evaluated in different fan theories are the Romulus and Remus statue, scenes from the Year Zero video clip (or, more generally, referring to the Infestissumam era), and an eclipse.
“Copia” means “copy” in Italian, so it seemed obvious to all to think that the twins were him and a character—possibly the next Papa—whom we had never seen before.
The tricky part of this lore is that this is only one of the possible paths for the future. Many hints over the years have pointed either to the comeback of an old Papa or to Copia’s betrayal, and only recently to an incursion of another character from one of Tobias Forge’s other bands. It’s a long way catching up with all this mess, so forget about coherence and logic 😅
By the way, before watching the movie I suggest you watch all the band’s chapters on YouTube, if you haven’t already (The Summonings + The Chapters), that’s where the official lore happens. Sometimes lore happens during concerts too (new Papa debuts II, III, Terzo’s forced deposition, Papa Nihil’s death, and Copia becoming Papa).
All the different theories circulating around are the product of years of lore building (both by the band and fanmade), mixed hints, and fans’ fantasies, but we are very close to knowing the truth about the next Papa, at least 😌
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I am so grateful Papa didn't die 🥰
However....it was still Copia's last show. A fact which still breaks my heart a little bit.
Now I wonder what comes next.
I've heard some theories but I am hoping we get a chapter (YouTube video) with the missing info/link between Copia leaving and he who comes next....
Soon?
#ghost#the band ghost#ghost lore#ghost theories#the band ghost theories#the band ghost lore#copia#papa iv#papa emeritus iv
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🍿 R†TE HERE R⸸TE NOW ×
#my gifs#ghost band#papa emeritus iv#ghost#Copia antichrist theory im playing my cards down now#its going to make me weeeeeeep#rite here rite now#popia#the band ghost#papa iv
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The first horseman, a conqueror with a bow and crown, rides a white horse, which scholars sometimes interpret to symbolize Christ or the Antichrist; the second horseman is given a great sword and rides a red horse, symbolizing war and bloodshed; the third carries a balance scale, rides a black horse, and symbolizes famine; and the fourth horseman rides a pale horse and is identified as Death. (Britannica)
Winter is coming.
#they're literal HORSE men#tobias you and your dad jokes#rhrn movie spoilers#the band ghost#rite here rite now#rhrn theories#the future is a foreign land#ghost fandom#papa emeritus iv#ghost bc#copia#ghovie#ghost rite here rite now#papa emeritus v
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I have a theory about the first song sung by the Papas characterizing them as characters.
Secondo's first concert song was "Secular Haze" - a song with a dark circus atmosphere, praising the Antichrist. As we know from Papaganda and interviews, he likes wigs, silly costumes and noisy parties, hiding his unhappiness behind this.
Terzo's first song was "From the Pinnacle to the Pit". His life path follows the path of Lucifer and Icarus, even the last word sung by him on his albums is "falling" ("Bible"). The higher one soars, the longer it takes to fall, the theme of hubris and the giddiness of success all reflect Terzo.
Copia's first song was "Rats" (acoustic performance). Rats prowl everywhere, small and inconspicuous, and bring death. I think he may have identified with death, as his reign began with the murder of the brothers. And as a bastard, he may have felt like a small animal, despised by all, but capable of revenge.
#papa emeritus iii#terzo#papa emeritus ii#secondo#papa emeritus#papa emeritus iv#cardinal copia#ghost#the band ghost#ghost theory#ghost hc#ghost lore
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Someone (I don’t remember Whomst but please do raise your hand if it was you) once proposed the idea that Terzo might be a bit of a pianist based off of this image
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And I just wanted to say that I support this idea. Not only because I think Terzo being able to play piano is adorable, but because it would make the Kazoo of Destiny even funnier in my eyes.
Dude is a classically-trained concert pianist, would make so many of his peers swoon by doing that dumb “Oh is that a piano? Don’t mind if I do~” bit and playing a concerto off the cuff. He could easily wriggle in a piano bit for himself during rituals and acoustic sessions — and the Clergy would’ve been on board for once because they know the power that a confident, handsome man with strong fingers can wield on an already horny audience.
But nope: He toot his lil kazoo, his favorite party favor he got three years ago at a New Year’s Eve party.
#he’s such a little shit I love him#papa emeritus iii#the band ghost#ghost bc#Terzo#papa iii#papa Terzo#I’m honestly not sure if any of his brothers also know an intstrument#I kinda like the idea that Terzo is the only one to learn one#maybe his mother taught him?#or!! because I’d imagine music would be a big deal to the Church given who Lucifer was before The Fall#maybe they have a program similar to how schools have small children play recorders#y’know as a (questionable) means of getting them interested in music#but of his brothers Terzo was the only one ut really stuck to#Primo’s disciplines lie in his dedication to the church#Secondo was even more impatient then so practicing was a huge drag#Copia might’ve come close but when he decided to take the idea of becoming Papa seriously#he had to choose work and study and put all his musicianship into the singing part#Terzo just liked the idea of putting something pretty into the world…#but that’s just a theory#a Random Theory!!!
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