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#The Bloodmoon and Ruin Eclipse Show/The Sun and Moon Show
thedemonsurfer · 3 days
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Back on my bullshit with trying to guess character motives feat. Dark Sun
Sooo Dark Sun (or 'Just Sun') finally rolled up to talk to Sun in todays SAMS ep, and naturally I'm putting him on the high-speed cycle in my head trying to parse what his motives are. What does he GET out of this?
Because he was leaning on Sun really hard to kill Nexus-- specifically, he wants Sun to see Nexus as a representative of the worst kind of person Moon can be, and to recognize that as a threat that needs to be killed.
But-- why?
Roll back a bit: Dark Sun has been involved in every step of Nexus' fall from grace.
He did something to New Moon at their very first meeting.
He provided Eclipse with the means to bring back Solar, and then prevented him from acting until Dark Sun wanted him to.
He dropped Ruin off on New Moon's doorstep when Moon was at a point where he could have accepted Solar's death, causing Moon to double down on his efforts.
He plucked New Moon out of space and pulled the chip containing Old Moon out of his head and left it for Monty to find.
He's provided Nexus with a new base of operations and enables his monkeying around with dark energon dark star energy, despite the damage it's doing to Nex.
Dark Sun needs Nexus to make himself into a threat. Because that's what he does, he sets up the dominoes and pulls the strings, but he doesn't outright tell others what to do (unless it's bossing Ruin around, but Ruin is his bitch so he doesn't count.)
And today, he was leaning real hard on Sun to see Nexus as a threat. to see all Moons as a threat (though, curiously, not mentioning Old Moon).
So what is he getting out of this? Why does he also need Sun to see Nexus as a threat that needs to be stopped? Why does he want Sun to 'understand' that he has to kill his brother?
Dial back the motives. The most compelling and strongest motives are Simple and Selfish: Eclipse didn't actually want power, he wanted Moon to pay attention to him. Ruin did want to prevent a total catastrophe, but he also wanted revenge on the Creators for destroying his life and world.
(As an aside, this is why I feel that Bloodmoon didn't make a good antagonist, and why Ruin's initial appearance was kind of boring. 'I'm here just to fuck shit up' isn't a very compelling motive.)
What do we know about Dark Sun?
He lied about having killed his Moon and actually kept him to torture-- or he DID kill his own Moon, and the one Ruin met was a substitute
He never gets his hands dirty, he gets others to act for him
He's obsessed with Sun
He fucking hates Moon
Dark Sun tells Sun that 98% of dimensions lose their Sun, and Moon is often the one that kills them. But it's not exactly that straightforward, is it?
Atlas points out that Dark Sun is counting dimensions where Sun was reset as him being 'dead'. Dimensions where Eclipse has a hand in Sun's death could be considered Moon's fault, since Eclipse is a byproduct of the killcode. Ruin's situation resulted in the ego death of both his Sun and Moon, on his Moon's suggestion. Ruin also wiped out 5000 dimensions and I think that's gonna skew some of the numbers.
And... how many dimensions have we seen a dead Sun in the show? Two, I think? The one where they never split up and Moon consumed Sun after the killcode took full control, and Solar's. And in Solar's, that Moon went mad trying to bring his Sun back.
Almost every instance we've seen, Sun and Moon coexist just fine once they're in separate bodies.
And I think that's what Dark Sun wants. I think he's trying to justify killing his own Moon before they ever got a chance to get along.
Moons MUST be evil and unable to change, they MUST be cruel. It's impossible for a Sun to get along with a Moon for any length of time, and that Sun is in the right when he has to kill his Moon.
And he's going to use Sun and Nexus to prove how right he is.
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Shit KC's in trouble! And HE HAS A TINDER + IS A SOUNDCLOUD RAPPER?!
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garbagechocolate · 3 months
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i think i know a way that we can grow
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astrofhobia · 3 months
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Villain Team and Solar
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This is an Au I did where these three idiots kidnap Solar just for the purpose of blackmailing Moon and his family... yeahhh
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piowasthere · 3 months
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Well aren't i late
Ruin absolutely peaked here i can't help but love his little comments and banter especially with Earth
they are such a great duo, love them genuinely, the chemistry just so works tgt
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She be just pointing at him like 🧍‍♂️
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all of them were done on diff days that's why they so inconsistant sorry- sob
[EP: Moon KILLS EVERYONE!! in VRChat (SAMS)] (and i'm pretty sure the ss is from LAES' ep)
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hazard-c-horror · 5 days
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I'm not sure if anyone else has already asked this, but in your maternity chip AU, would that connection that Eclipse feels with Lunar also feel with Bloodmoon?
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Maternity Chip Eclipse Au
Finding BloodMoon
read right to left
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Things gonna get a bit complicated now that mamas found their child :)
sorry for the very long wait, I had the comic draft sitting there for days oof
but the long awaited Bloodmoon interaction is here, now I shall take a short break
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milkyrrr · 4 months
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What If TSAMS was a pixel game?
I remembered that I can draw sprites, and decided to draw TSAMS characters hehe
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starii-lins · 6 months
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HAPPY TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY SAMS!!!
this show has taken over my life and it is what's keeping me drawing as of late, so yay jesters!!
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mr-mischievous · 3 months
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I'm going to attempt to start a SaMs thread!
WHO IS THE TOP THREE BEST SAMS/LAES CHARACTERS/AKA YOUR FAVORITES?
This is an opinion based post where you list your top three, and tag people you associate with to continue this goofy thread. I'll go first-
1. New Moon/Nexus
2. Ruin
3. Dark Sun
@theinfamousdoctorf @potatotato-26 @achickennamedcheese @sen-sational @polaris-stuff @hazard-c-horror @thedenofravenpuff @creesask @librarian-computer @yolexxx
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eddwardharrison · 11 days
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someone help theres a crazed rabid peep (yes the easter candy) screaming at me in dms help help sos helpOH GOD THEY GOT IN MY HOUSEHELEP HEP rhekelp
NOT A SHIP!! They’ve been teamworking in my brain to get me through the day…HUZZAH!!
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socksandbuttons · 7 months
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I did an expression challenge on the server i was on a while back. A lot was blushing. Earth's I love i added Smooches. We got, KC, Ruin, Earth, Bloodmoon (two versions cause goofy eyes), Sun, Eclipse, Jack, Bloodmoon 2.0/Grim, And Lunar (always angst im sorry man).
These were fun, i might do more.
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miiv12 · 9 months
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In case it's not obvious the bottom is Eclipse and Solar is the one above.
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tsams-and-co-memes · 3 months
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astrofhobia · 2 months
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Villain Team and Solar AU
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References for this AU.
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piowasthere · 6 months
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SAMS 2YR ANNIVERSARY ! ! !
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this was a nightmare to work on a week straight but so worth it
i've been watching this show for about 6 months only but it has captured me and swallowed whole w/o chewing
i remember sitting down to watch the first eps of it thinking it's just another yt rp, cheap, content-farm for kids w/o much thought put into it
boi, could i be further from the truth the amout of work, love and attention to detail put into this is baffling from the characters thru the story and ideas to the acting
the fact that the entire thing is carried by basically only 2-3 ppl
alr i'm done yapping, i swear
all of the characters separately under cuz there's a lot
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Thank you for everything
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hazard-c-horror · 2 months
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@sen-sational guess what Au of yours I decided to scroll through
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Something approches…. Ooooooo
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@littlevillainsaskblog
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