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How to properly respond to someone mockingly claiming that your favorite show sucks
1. Have Tumblr and Youtube links that support your favorite media handy.
2. If they say “I know tons of people in real life who agree with me” , ask them for screenshots or proof. They’ll say people in real life who agree with them because they may not have people online who do.
3. If they say “I have tons of people on Twitter/FB/Reddit who agree with me”
Remind them of the toxicity of said sites, and provide a screenshot of said toxicity.
4. If they claim “This show repeats many old and conventional mistakes that should never be practiced”, ask for specific scenes or episodes , and have an article/blog/video ready as a counter-point for their “Grievance”
5. More than typically, they’ll be actually just parroting some random person’s words to sound smart. Such as “I’m studying it, its an example how not to write a show”...they’re just repeating a bad-faith critic, in an attempt to sound high and mighty.
6. More often than not, they will say “This dude writes fanfics better than the writers”. Point out to them how said fanfic writer forcibly removes all LGBT content, embraces the “reason why you suck” trope towards female main characters, and show them how their idea of a superior writing fanfic involves replacing female main characters who are typically queer-coded with a straight white male, while straightwashing queer-coded women into being the ship partner for said straight white male.
7. Given the plethora of hate videos or hate-watchers on youtube, it may not actually work to accuse them of not having watched the show. They probably have hate-watched. Instead, ask them if “are we even watching the same show”. Use certain scenes from different episodes to get their take. Look for examples of cognitive dissonance when it comes to how they look at a scene, which will be mirroring that of hate watchers.
8. Ask them about certain LGBT pairings, female main characters, or male white antagonists. Base your responses and counterpoints to them depending on how they respond.
9. They will no doubt get defensive and angry when you ask them to explain their hatred. Explain to them that you were not pleased with them telling you your show that you like sucks, and if they’re so upset about you picking holes in their bad-faith claim or defending the show, then maybe they were in the wrong to be so negative.
10. Please remember to be respectful and polite when doing so. They’ll accuse you of “toxic positivity”, “unable to take criticism” but remember they’re the ones spewing the negativity and getting defensive over somebody not hating what they hate.
11. Remember...Tumblr is where we enjoy things, and support other people enjoying things. If somebody wants to be hateful and mocking, kindly remind them that there are two sites, twitter and reddit, who embrace shitting on what other people love...and look what has happened to those two sites. Then ask them why are they here if they’re just being haters?
12. Just because they hate your favorite shows, doesn’t mean its bad. Do not give in to negativity...that’s what they want...to tear down your enjoyment of things, so they can shove their badly written fixit fanfics in your face.
This post was for fans of Legend of Korra, She-Ra and The Princesses of Power, and RWBY.
#i mean for sure rwby is one of them#debate#defending RWBY's writing#defending legend of korra#TLOK is a good show#yes I watch TLOK#SPOP is a great show#spop#catra is a good character#korra is an awesome character#rwby is good
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Finally got the time to fuel my new hyperfixation yippeee <3
#my art#tlok#legend of korra#korrasami#asami sato#I love Korra so much I am NOT immune to powerful women…..#I watched the show like 4 months ago and I already have like 50 wips 😶#really loved it tho#some real good ships over there#:3c
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TLOK Comics
I AM REALLY SICK OF THE TLOK CANON COMICS AVOIDING ANYTHING THAT PRIMARILY FOCUSES ON KORRA AND ASAMI.
Turf Wars didn't really address their relationship going forward since we never see them talking about it directly outside of that one moment in Spirit World (the how did you know moment, which doesn't address their relationship going forward), brief meet the parents (ends badly), talking to Kya about acceptance of LGBTQ couples, and saying i love you at the end. Worse, Turf wars was a damsel in distress trope (these need to stop; it's boring/bad writing).
Why can we not have scenes of them talking about their relationship, how they'll live together and where, some of the rituals they start doing together, etc. Them having a cute date night, that gets interrupted, they are badass together, then they go back to doing their date night. Or Avatar Korra doing some Avatar-mission with Asami at her side being just as badass.
Like, I do not understand why they avoid them so damn much. They just bait us with fancy covers and snippets that barely cover their relationship. Also, I'd love to see the comic writer for a Korrasami comic be a bi or lesbian writer, so we can actually get solid writing for once. Is that so hard to ask?
Do we need to start a petition to demand this?
And I'd like to also demand that they fucking STOP nerfing Asami? She is perfectly capable of taking down nearly anyone by herself. She took down six Equalists and a mech tank in Book 1 for heaven's sake. She took down Red Lotus people in one move in Book 3. Rebuild an airship and built a sandsailer in Book 3. She flies planes and can invent ridiculously fancy tech like hummingbirds.
And yet they keep giving us shitty damsel in distress tropes with her. STOP IT.
Let Korra and Asami work as badass partners for once.
Anyway, that's my rant of the century.
No, I don't want to read another one-shot that doesn't feature them. *sighs* I'm just so frustrated.
[EDIT: I want to be clear her that Asami being kidnapped by Tokuga is the literal definition of damsel in distress. Yes, she uses her badass engineering skills to try to ruin his plans, but this ultimate fails as he overpowers her and starts choking her. Korra comes to her rescue. Why is this so frustrating? Asami is a badass fighter who can kick someone off a motorcycle and steal their spear while at it in Book 3. She took down six equalists at the same time after blowing up their mech tank in book 1. She's more than capable of taking down Tokuga, and yet PLOT made it so she couldn't. It was jarring and a bit unbelievable considering what we've seen of her capabilities in the actual show. We see the same thing in Ruins of Empire. Where her, Bolin, and Mako are overwhelmed by only a handful of soldiers. Asami could have taken down several of them herself, and Mako's lightning is highly effective against metal. Yet they're still taken? Again, it's the damsel in distress plot. This time Asami's mind and body is kidnapped (due to brainwashing), and Korra must save her. It's boring and shitty writing.]
#korrasami#legend of korra#tlok#the legend of korra#writing#We need more Korrasami not less#It honestly feels like the creators thought making Korrasami canon was good enough then decided showing them as badass partners was too muc#just a rant really
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tenzin is literally one of the best things to come out of korra he’s so fucking goated zaheer and his friends had to tag team him so hard to get him
#i love him so much#i forget how much i love like tenzin korra and lin#even tonraq and sit in are just so fucking cool#i really did not need mako and bolin SJSJSJ like they have their moments#esp when the show completely abandons romance is when they’re their best#but it’s not enough good to outweigh the rest of them#esp bolin#bolin is like waayyyy more annoying that i remember#discount bargain bin sokka for real#tlok#lyriumsings txt
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Aang being a shitty dad is fine, but it's the way tlok makes Aang a shitty I have a problem with. You're telling me a guy who's entire culture was whipped out and whole family was massacred wasn't overjoyed at the possibility of sharing his culture with his entire family?
Would Aang have given more attention to Tenzin? Probably, them being the only airbenders would have almost certainly fostered a complex dynamic between the two— even to the extent that it would damage the father/son relationship. I think it's also worth pointing out that Aang was raised in a culture without the nuclear family dynamic we see him participarting in with Katara and their kids, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that Aang would fall short of the expectations and responibilities being a typical father figure brings especially when he himself never experienced that dynamic. Especially, especially compounded with the task of rebuilding a struggling world and maintaining peace.
However, do I think he would neglect to show his kids his culture? Their culture? No. Certainly not the extent he did, and especially not when we see how excited he is to share it with his friends in the show. Why wouldn't he be excited to share it with his kids? With all his kids? How the writers of The Legend of Korra make him a bad dad is a complex series of failures not the least of which stem from racism, the unwillingness to even attempt an understanding of multicultural families, TLOK originally being a 12 episode miniseries that then got greenlit for another season and was suddenly taxed with building upon a world that was never intended to exist beyond its original scope, and a fundamental misunderstanding of Aang as a character.
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#he probably would have been a kinda shitty dad just Not Like That#and while were here#why is bumi portrayed as essentially cultureless? certainly there were non benders in the air nomads#and why does the show act like only Bolin is from the earth nation and Mako from the fire nation?#because these white! creators fundamentally do not understand what living in a multicultural household is like#and were completely incurious to what the experience might've been like for these characters#and again. to harp on the whole building upon a world that was never intended to exist outside its original premise thing#that's why the writing gets weaker in the second season and picks back up in the third#these writers are clearly talented but so obviously fumbled when it came to expanded on these characters#who were written for a short quick one off series and then suddenly had to exist outside of that#all of the arcs and story beats were pretty one note and quick because book 1 is a full complete story#that's why only book 1 ties into the name conventions of atla#because all of the legend of korra was originally built to just be book one#and then suddenly your stuck with this story that you had completely wrapped up#and characters who now have to be expanded beyond what they were intended to be#and the writers very clearly could not do that. that's why Aang being a shitty dad comes out of left field almost.#and why none of the villains tie into each other until the very end with a quick little explanation#and it's also why the world building is so much weaker than atla#atla was know for it's compelling world building and dynamic side characters None of which exist in tlok#or well. they do! in a much smaller diluted form.#because functionally the story is still trapped in the original confines of the first season#and also trapped in the back there is 50% less content every season#no time to experience a small village in the fire nation! we gotta get to plot!#no time to flesh out the comic relief character!! plot! gotta get to the plot!!#and they couldn't even make that plot good in the second season.#atla#tlok#aang
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i know im not breaking new ground for saying legend of korra is disappointing but so much of the series is genuinely off putting to me. the setting, the tone, how the narrative tortures korra it feels like
which is a shame because I love korra as a character (even if her writing isn't The best at times). but there are so many aspects of the show I don't like. fuck there's so many characters in the show I dont even like either
#says a lot how even when im not rewatching atla in its entirety i enjoy watching clips of it from time to time or analysis videos on whats#good about the show...#i have not touched TLOK since i watched the show finale when it aired#i cant stand mako. i dont even really like bolin much either#i feel like the biggest aspect of TLOK that holds it back is the fact that it wanted to be more 'mature'#ignoring the fact that the og series -was- quite mature. as in it knew when to take itself seriously! TLOK has a superficial idea of-#-maturity it feels like. like 'ohhh ohhhhh look we showed an airbender do killing isnt that cool!!" what the fuck EVER#I DONT CARE. i dont care when it feels like a slog to get thru the show and when u add things that mess w/ the allure -#- of the og show. I dont WANT to know how the first avatar came to be or why the spirit world exists#THE MYSTIQUE WAS WHAT MADE IT SO APPEALING#THE EXISTENCE OF BENDING WAS EXPLAINED BY PEOPLE OBSERVING NATURE AND IMITATING IT. OR BEING TAUGHT SPECIFIC ANIMALS#NOT BECAUSE OOHH LOOK THE LION TURTLES GAVE IT TO PPL TO TRAVERSE THE SPIRIT WILDS.... lame!! LAME!!#im angrier about this than i need to be lmao#the whole lion turtle thing just sounds like the show runners felt insecure about the finale of the OG series lol
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I gotta put my frustrations somewhere, but I still cannot BELIEVE that Legend of Korra put in the fact that Kuvira made "REEDUCATION CAMPS" for water and firebender people/ethnicities, and this fucking dictator only got a smack on the hand as well as a redemption arc in the fucking comics.
They literally said she did That. And I'm supposed to sit here and think that she was worthy of being given a second chance all because she ratted out her own people.
What. The fuck.
#avatar the last airbender#avatar the legend of korra#atla#tlok#Like. I know its a kids show and Nickelodeon probably said DONT KILL OFF POLITICAL LEADERS IN UR SHOW NO MATTER HOW YOU PORTRAYED THEM#But did the comics really have to Go There?? Couldnt we have just kept her in jail??#I still cant fucking believe they DID THIS#I hate Kuvira so much. Her potential as a villain was wasted because we were forced to sympathise with her.#The only villain worse than her is Unalaq.#Im trying so hard to not be rabidly anti-tlok#It genuinely had some good moments in this and lots of good potential#But then I remember stuff like This and I just...I cant REDEEM it.#And it makes me sad
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Bro genuinely what the fuck are you talking about
#…#yes these 2 consenting adults who had a slow burn from best friends to lovers come across as… emotionally abusive…#they would not have been good as endgame in season 1?? Korra fucking hated asami in season 1???#did we all watch the same show???#oh I looked at their account and they’re just a Korra hate account#like if u hate her so much why is she living in ur head rent free?#atla#avatar#avatar the last airbender#Korra#the legend of korra#legend of korra#tlok#chronically onliners when a relationship actually takes time to develop 😧#yes I wish their relationship got a little more fleshed out and we got to see it develop better#but considering how hard they had to fight to get them holding hands aired I think it can be excused
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I keep seeing ppl say "oh idk why ppl hate Korra" When truth be told most ppl don't hate Korra, the character, but Korra as a show because of how weak it is compared to its predecessor. While ppl weren't expecting it to be better than Avatar, it doesn't reach the expectations put upon it. Don't get me wrong, Korra is an okay show, but that's all it is, and that in itself is upsetting. There are genuinely people who just hate Korra the character, and I know that, but I also understand that it's mostly because of the hate for the show as a whole. Even when you treat the show Legend of Korra as its own thing, it's still only alright at best, and that is disappointing. I think Korra for one is a great character especially when you remember she's only a teenager, I just don't think the show writers really knew how to deal with that deep of a character in that big of a world and that's sad.
#legend of korra#my shit#my opinion#i refuse to talk about the live action show#Legend of Korra is overhated tbh#avatar the last airbender#avatar legend of korra#Also the romance in Korra was a hot mess#avatar korra#tlok#Korra is a good character#her writers just couldn’t handle her
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reading the patterns in time comic. holy shit they did not have to draw asami’s mom so hot. but then again tlok is kinda known for their milfs
#mal's shitposts#tlok#also the comic itself is cute as fuck#but damn. yasuko darling i could show you a good time
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i just rewatched atla, and i started tlok, and like, iroh having the same voice actor as zuko caught me so off guard.
this was the first time i watched atla in english, and thats my first rewatch of tlok, in, well, ever, and i dont think they share a voice actor in hebrew.
#atla zuko#avatar the last airbender#zuko#tlok#tlok iroh#the legend of korra#i also forgot just how good this show is#atla#atla that is
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Jesus it's been a while since I've posted here
I'll try to post more over the following month but in the meantime here is smth from a show I finished binging a couple days back
#the legend of korra#avatar korra#korra#tlok korra#honestly pretty fun show i had a good time with it
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the more i think about tlok the less i like if im being honest
#i do really like korra as a character tho she is great but i dont think the show makes her justice#FREE MY GIRLLL LET HER BE IN A BETTER SHOWWW#same with tenzin and his siblings#gh0ost txt#like tlok is not a bad show its great but it misses so much of like the point of its predecessor that it annoys me i think#goooood specially with the whole vaatu and raava thing aaaaaaa#like it has potential to be as good as atla i think but for some reason its not what happened thereeee aaaghhh#okay ill stop being a hater now sorry#idk what possesed me
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I'm tearing up. Just imagine being a child and you know your father's in the city, and you just have to stand there completely helpless while that city gets bombed. Seeing the flashes of fire, the smoke, and wondering if you're dad is still okay after all that. Wow.
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“Katara deserves a quiet life after the war, so becoming a healer (who made no contributions to the field) is actually a good arc!”
It is already bizarre to me that in ATLA, Katara is this confident & combative & ambitious girl who LOVED to fight and wanted nothing more than to help as many people as possible…then comics!Katara and TLOK!Katara showed neither her previous personality traits nor a career commensurate with those traits…
but it’s even more bizarre to me that ATLA fans would defend her trajectory as if it were some kind of progressive story of recovering from war trauma.
I’ve seen multiple takes like this. “Katara is not a YA heroine, she’s not a bloodthirsty girlboss who loves fighting so it’s actually a good thing that she doesn’t have to fight anymore” “after everything she’s been through she deserves a quiet life and a loving family”
For Katara, fighting in the war was actually empowering. It didn’t burn her out. It didn’t disillusion her. It didn’t take more out of her than she can give. Katara is not Katniss Everdeen, who needed to step back and discover her own agency and a sense of peace after fighting in a war she never chose to start. Katara’s war trauma largely happened before she took an active part in it. After she chose to be a part of the war, she became a waterbending master, made close friends, found her father again, got closure for her mother’s murder, defeated the Fire Lord, and met the love of her life. If Katara were a real person, maybe she’d be traumatized, but nowhere in the text of ATLA does she exhibit the sign that she’s tired of fighting on behalf of the world. If anything, she just got started.
If you take her post-ATLA arc at face value (vs as bad writing), it’s a tragedy of a woman who has learned to minimize her own relevance and her own power. In The Promise, she begins deferring serious decisions to Aang. She doesn’t even express a strong opinion about the fate of the entire colony of Yu Dao, or the fate of her friend Zuko. In North and South, she accepts Northern encroachment of the South in the name of progress. In TLOK we see her not as a politician or a chief, but rather as “the best healer” — albeit one who apparently never established a hospital, or trained acolytes of her own, or done anything to help people at scale, which she has always wanted to do. It’s even more egregious when you remember that in Jang Hui, she was not satisfied to simply heal the sick as the Painted Lady. She wanted to solve the root of the problem, so she cleaned the river and committed full-on ecoterrorism. Just because the war is over doesn’t mean she wants to stop helping people. In fact, the problem she addressed in Jang Hui is exactly the type of problem that would become more prevalent after the war ends, judging by the rapid industrialization between ATLA and LOK.
In the original ATLA, I think Katara is about as close to a power fantasy as you can get for a teenage girl, because she gets to be messy and goofy and powerful, even though she also had to perform a whole lot of emotional and domestic labour. But post-ATLA, she doesn’t get power and she doesn’t get to make a change. She gets love and a family. That’s it. And her grandkids don’t even remember her. Her friends and peers, on the other hand, were shown doing all sorts of super cool things like, you know, running the world they saved.
It’s not feminist to say that a female character deserves “rest” when she’s shown zero inclination that she wants a quiet life. Women who want a quiet life deserve to get it — I think Katniss’ arc is perfect — but women who want power deserve to get it too, especially when they’re motivated by compassion and a keen sense of justice. There’s nothing feminist about defending the early 2010s writing decisions of two men. Like just admit that they fucked up! It’s fine! Maybe they’ll do better in the future!
#katara deserved better#anti Kataang#I mean not really#I’ve said this before but Katara’s marriage to Aang is entirely compatible with her taking on roles of political influence#The only way this meta could be anti kataang is because KA shippers are remarkably uncritical of Katara’s arc#So it’s more#anti kataang shippers#Anti Bryke#pro katara#my meta
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TLOK and the design of older women
Scrolling through the TLOK tag, I see so many posts saying “Thanks to The Legend of Korra, now I’m attracted to older women” and then they attach pictures of Lin, Suyin and Kya. Those posts always get a good chuckle out of me, but I’ve decided to be a party popper and analyze, why are the elderly women of TLOK so attractive?
And the answer is because they aren’t drawn like actual women in their 50s. They are drawn like 30 year old women and then they add the grey hair to convey that they are old. Let’s see the evidence:
Here is Tenzin, he is 51 years old in the 1st season. This is how he looks:
He has bags under his eyes, wrinkles, messy facial hair, and crow’s feet. These are all realistic signs of aging that we normally see in men above 50.
Now let’s see Lin Beifong. She is 50 years old.
Her face is completely smooth. There are no wrinkles, smile lines, or any signs of aging besides her gray her.
And those are just the examples that I used to prove my point. This disparity applies to all of the middle aged men and women in this show. Let’s keep going:
Kya and Bumi are both in their mid-late 50s. Bumi has wrinkles, under eye bags, and forehead creases. Kya has 0 physical signs of aging besides her hair.
Here are some more examples:
Again, I’m sorry to be a complete party popper, but the reason why everyone is so attracted to the elderly women of Korra is because these are not elderly women- they are 30 year olds with grey hair. Only men are allowed to age naturally in this show.
#the legend of korra#tlok critical#anti bryke#anti ageism#lin beifong#tenzin#bumi ii#kya ii#firelord izumi#and the rest#tlok salt
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