#TJ overanalysis

[thejolteonmastertj]

Frfr I fecking love EOW Zelda so much, y’all have no idea. She may look like a normal lil princess on the surface but she’s definitely just as if not more crazy than BOTW/TOTK Link & I’m not kidding. She’s a girl who gets zoomies. Nobody blinks when she swims in the well or climbs onto the rooftops (both are possible, even easy before the Tri-rod!). Her family calls her “spirited,” when being polite. She’s about as good at climbing & swimming as she is at running (without magic item assistance!). Her rock climbing speed is particularly insane, faster than BOTW, even before you figure out spamming B makes her climb faster! She’s short & may not always be able to reach the trees without a trampoline… once she’s up there though she’s better at clamoring among the trees than the actual Hero Of Wilds. She’s scurrying along like a lil monkey. She sees a place she wants to go, she figures out how to get there by sheer spite & insanity. She’s definitely got tree or rose-bush branches sticking out of her hair more often than not at like all times through her whole life. Truly no wonder why the other leaders haven’t met her yet, fam was definitely hoping she’d grow out of her feral zoomies stage of girlhood but welp that’s clearly never going to happen… they all still love her though. She’s a what if botw Zelda actually had the chance to happily bloom with a loving, even if mildly exasperated-at-times family. She isn’t forced to “grow up,” & it’s in-fact her free spirit that saves Hyrule. I have many feelings, EOW Zelda’s freaking amazing.

[thejolteonmastertj]

Words cannot express how much I love the body language & paneling here, bro is confusing himself. 😂

& here

Everybody loves that face, but IMO, the best face is this NEXT one.

It’s the escalation

from the blank face,

to an “ugh” face,

to a “what in HECK IS going on back there” that really kills me. It’s perfection.

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Also, poor Legend definitely has communication issues. Poor bro always getting read as mean or rude.

More fuel for my Autistic Legend headcanon.

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[thejolteonmastertjspoilers]

The Monoma Meta Nobody Asked For

I don’t remember who it was on Reddit that said it makes sense for Monoma to be one of the most empathetic characters in BNHA cuz of his Quirk, (his quirk allows him to walk in the shoes of other people in ways most will never be able to even if for 5 minutes at a time), but let’s talk about it for a minute.

Monoma is a character full of contradictions but there’s a method to the madness. 

Let’s take a real deep look at the manga shall we?

It’s pretty much canon that Monoma trash talks 1-A so much in-part b/c he cares that much... too much... about his own classmates.  It’s implicitly obvious based on the way he interacts with his classmates and phrases his rants at class 1-A. 

The fact that he’s obviously influenced by Vlad is just the cherry on top. 

He’s prideful of not just himself but also his friends.  Let’s break down the nuances there.

Ch196 above, Ch207 below.

Empathy

The kid has a way with words. 

The kid has a weirdly poetic way with words.

He goes out of his way to encourage or reassure his classmates in a deeply thoughtful manner at every given opportunity.

He hyped up Setsuna Tokage before her battle with Bakugo and we saw him grin in pride when Komori took down Tokoyami. 

Whenever Monoma does criticize his classmates, it’s always frank, honest, but constructive, with the intention to help them improve.  He’s even contrasted with his own teacher for being relatively more kind in the delivery of his criticism (see the next screenshot).  Given that Monoma’s shown to be strongly influenced by Vlad, this particular difference stands out.

You never see an anime/manga character get fancifully philosophical & genuinely helpful like this unless they are an adult, usually the MC’s mentor.  Monoma’s legit acting more like an anime mentor than any of Deku’s multiple mentors.  lmfaooo.

Realistically speaking, all of this, the philosophical speeches & level-headed advice, takes an incredible amount of emotional & mental labor.  The kid’s practically doing half of Vlad’s job for him.

It’s during the joint training arc we begin to see why his classmates put up with him and are on friendly terms despite how obnoxious & cheesy he can be & how often they need to keep him in check.

It’s clear even as far back as the sports festival that his classmates don’t actually hate him, despite the smacks & tough love they also just shake their heads with a smile on their face as they say “sorry about him,” cuz that’s just the way he is.  They love him anyways.

He’s an annoying little sh*t but he’s their annoying little sh*t.  Perhaps they even realize why he acts the way he does towards class 1-A, it’s because he cares too much.

Sketch translated by @aitaikimochi​

Putting Up An Act

I think there’s actually even more to it when it comes to his rowdy & brash behaviors. 

Monoma is empathetic because of how his Quirk works.  He needs to learn to use the Quirks of others in order to become a hero.  In doing so he logically needs to become privy to all the Quirk’s weaknesses, not just their strengths.  Not only does he need to become privy to these often deeply personal details of one’s lived life, he needs to experience them, even if for just five minutes at a time.  It’s natural, even necessary, for Monoma to become exceptionally close to his classmates.

But he’s only like that because of how his Quirk works.  It’s his naturally nurtured self.  His conscious self, though, is notably different.

What we see when Monoma says he and Shinsou need to do unheroic things to get by is not his naturally nurtured self, but is a conscious decision.

At some point in his life, Monoma came to the conclusion that being too kindhearted all the time will be weakness.  This is clearly implied, almost outright stated when we heard Monoma’s thoughts when faced with Deku’s Black Whip, “All of the hopes and dreams in my mind from when I was younger are gradually becoming these heavy burdens... like some sort of curse.”  I am 99.999% sure it’s Monoma’s thoughts being shown there because the speech pattern & context don’t match up to Shinsou or Midoriya at all.

Basically, Monoma is a little sh*t because he saw his own empathy as a weakness, and overcompensates for it.  He’s trained himself to be brash & mischievous, likely from a very young age given how consistently brash he is.  We can see a little bit of this when interacting with his class-B classmates as well.

It was @thyandrawrites​ who first noticed this in this post, but here we see Monoma scolding Kendou after losing the beauty contest, giving perhaps too much tough love & TetsuTetsu steps in to Kendou’s defense.

Given how Monoma during the Joint Training arc clearly said everything he did to motivate his friends to do better, this is likely not an isolated occurrence.  The dude cares way too goddamn much for anyone’s good.

Yet there’s something else up with the guy too, something else that contributes even more to his unhealthy obsession with the rivalry vs class-A.  The dude has some serious self-esteem issues but is too prideful to seek real help.

Self-doubt

The fact that he’s the only member of class-B who failed the midterm despite having an intelligence stat of 5/5 speaks for itself.

Him failing the academic exam would be a sign of serious issues going on under the surface in itself, him failing the practical means he probably failed b/c he couldn’t hold his own and his teammate had to pick up the slack.

Him failing b/c he held back his teammate would have hit very close to home since we now know he was told “You can’t be a hero if you can’t do anything yourself” since he was a kid.

Basically, yet another reason he continues to antagonize class-A is a textbook example of someone pushing their insecurities onto someone or something else.

For something often played off as comedic relief there’s a lot of layers as to why Monoma does what he does.

But wait, there’s f*cking more.  There’s actually a particular reason Monoma expresses his insecurities in this unhealthy manner, and that reason ties into what I’ve already begun to address about his empathy.

Another Act

I don’t think it’s accident that the first time we see him have a real heart-to-heart with someone is when he’s attempting to do it for the sake of someone else.  Even if it is in a clumsy manner that ends up annoying Shinsou, it’s the intent I’m interested in here.

We almost never see Monoma receive or accept praise or reassurance, he’s always the one giving it.  He always makes it a point to put himself in the position where he’s being the emotionally strong one. 

He got over class 1-A securing their victory exceptionally fast, ready to put on a strong face for Tokage and the rest of his class.

The few times we do see him genuinely depressed, he’s distancing himself from others.  

He’s afraid of holding others back not just as a hero, but emotionally as well.  His instinct to be emotionally strong for the people he cares about stems not just from his strong empathy and caring nature nature itself, but also from his pride, insecurities and conscious decision to do everything he can do.

This is why he’s too prideful to seek or accept real emotional help & ends up venting his emotions in unhealthy & destructive ways.

His many depictions as an actor of sorts was intentional.  He juggles many acts, he puts on an act of emotional strength for his classmates, and he puts on an act of cruelty to get by as a hero.  To antagonize people in an attempt to throw them off their game.  Sometimes... oftentimes even, he misapplies these charades & gets carried away.  Oftentimes he fails entirely, he’s trying to do some hella complex things for a kid.

Finally, His Pride

Let’s not kid ourselves here, the dude has a major superiority/inferiority complex.  He fails to see how needlessly cruel he’s being when saying class-A asked to be attacked by villains etc.

I’m willing to bet he’ll be in a phase denial for a while now that Class-B and Class-A have gotten more openly friendly in recent chapters.  But because he cares so much about his classmates he’ll likely eventually come around to adjusting to a new frenemy relationship with 1-A... with much difficulty when we take his pride, insecurities & self-righteous envy into account.

He’ll probably end up being Tsundere about everything to protect his ego and so Horikoshi can keep using him for comedic relief lol.  Even if he does realize a lot of what he’s done was f*ked up, he’s too brash of a prankster to ever go fully soft on them either.

TL;DR... Monoma is a piece of mf work.  Not surprising really.

[ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is]

Hello, could you help me typing my friend? I don't know if she's an INFP or INFJ. First of all, she's really really smart. But she's very modest about it, and always says "I'm not, but thank you". She tends to be very reserved with her outbursts just because she doesn't want to bother anyone; she prefers to listen others stories. And she really cares. She's very kind and funny, althought she can look very cold and aloof at first glare. She looks estructured and likes to think over doing. (1/2)

She also loves philosophy, science, cosmology, astronomy, and psychology. The bad thing about her is that she tends to be very paranoic, she overthinks and overanalyzes everything, and this causes her insomnia. She is always very worried about what's going to happen, althought she neglects it. When something important happens, she's like “what is the real motive of this?” “Why did this happen?” She’s also reaaaally good learning new languages. She also tends to be very clumsy. (2/3)

She can be very logical and rational too; she loves theories and conspirations, and she can deal very easy with abstract things. She is better with theory than practice. On the other side, she also can be very “soft” and a daydreamer but in a more "realistic" way. Maybe this is important: she always thinks about what others are going to think when she takes a decision. She's like “what will others say about this?” (3/3) I hope this is not very long, and thank you so much in advance!

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Smart: not an MBTI thing

Modest/self-effacing: most common in IxFJs, pretty uncommon in TJs, and if it’s specifically about smarts then I would guess feelers over thinkers since thinkers do prefer to be thought of as smart.

Reserved and prefers to listen to others, thinks rather than does: IxFJ does sound likely.

Liking these topics: could be anything.

Paranoid/overanalysis/insomnia: overanalysis would be in line with weak tertiary Ti; paranoia could be more of an enneagram thing (6) it could be weak inferior Ne, or it could just be anxiety.

Worrying about what’s going to happen but neglects it: not sure what this means.

Looking into the real motive or why things happen: probably more Ni, waiting for more Ni evidence to say for sure but leaning that way.

Good at languages: not an MBTI thing.

Clumsy: usually not a high Se thing but otherwise could be anything.

Logical/rational but loves conspiracies: contradiction in terms in that conspiracies are usually inherently a bad application of logic and are irrational, but liking conspiracies is somewhat more INFJ than ISFJ (either would have the same access to logic with tert Ti since I’ve already decided IxFJ makes the most sense

Prefers theory: fits with dom Ni

A day dreamer but more realistic: needs more information to be useful - I would appreciate that because this could be a point back in favor of ISFJ; more detail on both this and an expansion with examples on what you mean by preferring theory would also be really helpful, since there are things that could tip it that way still with all the other information.

Considers what others would think whenever making a decision: with all else that has been said, I’m very confident about IxFJ.

So: probably an INFJ, but depending on further information and some clarifications, ISFJ is less likely but technically possible. If you were considering INFP because you thought you saw Ne, this would be a good time to elaborate; if it was because of high intuition signs it would be helpful to know what those were to be able to confirm.

[thejolteonmastertj]

There is SO. HECKIN. MUCH. About this chapter that I love. Arryl & Tetra’s designs! Aaaaaaaa~ 💞💝💞🥹💞💝💞

Arryl! Aaaa they grow up so fast. 🥹

& Tetra’s characterization! Voice & body language! That’s especially perfect! The way she shifts from gruffness to affection, barely a few panels in & there’s a very clear picture for a multifaceted character. She’s the same BAMF we remember yet she’s grown so much! 🥰

The way even her internal recognition for the Master Sword is just “Link’s Fuckass sword” is so funny & does a lot to establish Tetra’s dialect even admist plot progression! I could almost hear the gruff woman voice say “fuckass sword” 😂 Also says a bit about the WW post-apocalyptic setting. It’s not the Master Sword, it’s the sword that was used once & was never supposed to show up again! 👀

& then her FACE as she’s like, Link, walk with me! 🤣🤣🤣 She’s grown so much since the events of Wind Waker & having a very appropriate reaction to the sword Link left at the bottom of the whole-ass ocean casually showing up again on somebody else’s person. 🤭

She’s immediately like damn what alternate universe (Phantom Hourglass reference) did you get sucked into THIS time huh? 😂😂

Then! Lineback flirting with grandma! I can totally see that! 😂☠️🫣🤣

Last but CERTAINLY not least! Those fake names! Loft’s first name to come to mind being Groose 💀 & Wolf’s being Rusl. 🥹 & then there’s Slate, who straight up ignores Wake/HeroOfWind 😂

Slate’s not used to anyone thinking twice about his name anyways, & his strategy’s probably better tbh esp on short notice. 😆

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Anyways NGL the archeology nerd in me went to the Faron region first once the main quest for it opened up & proceeded to lose my mind over how the Deku Scrubs carved their own image into all the ancient definitely-not-theirs architecture! 😂

This is definitely one of the funniest ways they could’ve possibly included the region. Fr cuz like,

The statues? While the carving itself is impressive—the bases, however, were much lower effort & are obviously random bits of ruins mashed together.

Then there’s this painting inside one the dungeons that sealed the deal for me though.

It’s literally just drawn over top. The stonework was not built with it in mind.

Deku scrubs be casually committing archeology crimes as they should, it’s so on-brand for them I love it. 😂

(The designs on those tiles are throwing me through a loop though. Way more than the inclusion of the Armos fr. Cuz like, we know there was at least one era where the Zonai & Hylians would’ve closely collaborated… those tiles though? I can’t identity their origin. [Edit: Nvm somebody helped me cook]

Genuinely wtf is going on in Hyrule’s jungles lmaoo but also like as someone familiar with IRL archeology I’m not even mad cuz it really do be like that sometimes FR. 🤭)

[thejolteonmastertj]

I cannot gush enough about how Echoes Of Wisdom handles Zelda as a character & the ending is no exception.

Like, yea? There was a moment of apprehension at no longer being able to use her sword form at the end of the game… but I now realize it had to happen.

Finishing the game without sword-form drove home how Zelda’s own skills are more than enough to carry the both of them. Her & Link. Bind in-particular turns out to be essential for the final puzzle & final boss.

We’ve seen plenty of action shows with subplots where the support side-character is proven to be essential for the team or main action hero’s success, sure. But this time we’re proving that we are the main character. We are carrying Link (sometimes literally 😂) & for all intents & purposes, he is the support. EOW flips not just the script but the perspective on the whole caster vs melee-dps dynamic & I love that!

Btw it’s extra fun if you have the shoulder guards equipped & can shove enemies into either Link’s or one of your echo’s blade. Very challenging but possible! (Ngl if Zel actually had a melee button there’d be too many parallel processes to keep track of for the late-game in-particular. 😅)

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WILD WHY WOULD YOU TEMPT FATE LIKE THAT.

(Source: https://www.tumblr.com/linkeduniverse/758261870143619072/entrance-pt2-coming-soon-comicarchive-about)

This is so ominous, bruh.

Now if something happens to Wild Legend’s gonna blame himself. 😭

He knows it too lmao Lege looks pissed.

[thejolteonmastertj]

Sharing again cuz I just wanna reemphasize how much I love the character choreography here!

Like, first of all, the sheer audacity, the first image of the Sailor alone is so memeable. Imagine waking up to a PUNCH in the face & you look down to see some kid(TM) in an oversized shirt glaring their angy daggers at ya.

Then the Sailor is SO sassy the whole way through, she grabs Shepard’s arm from way up picking at his teeth to freak out over the Triforce, Shepard’s like ??? &… the kiddo, keeps holding on to his arm as he stands up. 😂

Then she acrobatically swings around to perch on his arm? Which, wow? She’s so extra. Her lil pose when she reveals her Triforce is adorable, & the way she commands the wind to casually show off as she introduces herself… meanwhile Wtf is she talking about when you read it from Shepard’s perspective. 🤣

Sailor is SUCH a kid(TM) but I like how there’s also hints of the time travel shenanigan experience she’s indeed already had so far. She’s fully aware of the possibility that she could come across a Link who doesn’t know what the Triforce means or that they’re a hero yet. I like that lil detail. There’s a method to her madness.

Like I don’t think finding a pre-adventure Link ever actually happened in Hyrule Warriors but to realize that’s a possibility shows she’s a smart kid & takes her self-proclaimed role as the commander’s confidant adorably seriously in the way kids do, & as kids do she immediately jumps from that to trying to recruit Shepard. 😂

if you leave your dog in a hot car he might drive away with it. BE CAREFUL!

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[thejolteonmastertj]

Tomboy/butches/mascs do not have a monopoly on being feral, rough & tumble, having zoomies & being an actual y’know kid & I’m so glad Zelda in Echoes Of Wisdom has given us a fantastic example of this.

[thejolteonmastertj]

Legend was very resistant to the idea before,

But now he’s,

actually entertaining the possibility of possession or corruption right alongside Wind,

at least a little bit.

I wonder if this means he and Wind had another chat on the subject, once they cooled off. Or maybe they’re going to?

Maybe the Vet’s just opening his mind a little?

No doubt he’s been deeply humbled over the course of Sunset, and, oddly enough, Wind was like the first character to seriously & imo intelligently question like Eyo wtf would happen if our blood got corrupted. Wind made the connection between what’s infecting the monsters and what’s infecting Twilight.

Combine that with Wind not long later bringing up something Legend never encountered before, mind control without the power of a witch or wizard, it’d make sense for the Vet to want poke the youngest’s brain a little.

He might’ve already did, actually, or just begun to at least, I almost forgot that like right after their argument the two left alone together to look for a great fairy.

Legend & Wind bonding incoming?

Plus

Plus

Plus,

Y’all,

Wind encountered Possession only (Oops, had to edit this) most prominently in Phantom Hourglass. Specifically describing Bellum when bringing it up in the first place.

The “dream” game. (I know it’s probably not a dream but there are other characters in-universe who believe it is at least)

Connect the dots.

[thejolteonmastertj]

I’m late but we’re all in agreement that the whole Time & Twilight deal is gonna be a classic case of someone’s attempt at preventing the prophesy being exactly what fulfills the prophesy, right?

Like, Twilight is so desperate to prove himself to Time that he’ll continually put himself in danger, & THAT’S what’s gonna cause friction between the two during LU��

…& therefore also cause the Shade’s attitude towards Twilight in Time’s future & Twilight’s past…

Yea, I am not ok either. (/pos)

Art belongs to JoJo, this is an analysis of Linked Universe, Dawn part 9.

[thejolteonmastertj]

Yoooo holdup.

Somebody on discord (@thehumantoolchest) actually pointed me towards the Ancient Cistern from Skyward sword as a possible source for the EOW Faron dungeon’s flower motif. The Cistern’s also in Faron after alll!

& not just the flower motif either, it’s got a similar triangle pattern on the walls too!

So here’s what I’m thinking, the Ancient Cistern is a ruin from… what I’ll call the pre-Zonai. Not quite the Zonai we know in TOTK’s Sky or BOTW’s Faron… but, y’know. The Ancients(TM) lol.

The flower motif particularly would be passed down to an eventual era of collaboration with Hylians (I assume based on the presence of Armos, & how much further removed the rest of the architecture is from the pre-Zonai style & the later Sky-Zonai style). The ruins from this era can definitely be seen in Echoes Of Wisdom’s Faron…

Meanwhile, a separate, distinct Zonai culture had been developed in the sky. This culture would settle the depths for extraction… & at least some small pockets of land on the ground. Evidence for surface settlement can by the time of TOTK be found almost exclusively inside caves. Some seem ceremonial, many seem… militaristic. Full of weapons & nothing else, hidden in sometimes elaborate cave systems.

Indeed, whatever culture built the Faron style of Zonai ruins in BOTW must have not got along with the Sky Zonai. They blatantly covered Sky Zonai stonework at the entrance to the construct factory… it wouldn’t be too far-fetched to assume they also dismantled the ruins we see in Echoes Of Wisdom. (The Deku Scrubs already got started on that, after all)

[thejolteonmastertj]

Thinking way too much about how genuinely happy Legend seems to be for this quest and how immediately after such thoughts it’s the Hero Of Time he chats with, even specifically about “lol you time traveled a lot old man?”

Does the Veteran know? Y’know, is he thrilled for this quest in-part because he gets to know someone he’d never thought he could? Someone long-grieved for, thought to be long-dead to a tragic end? The one aspect of Ganon’s evil he would’ve up-to-now assumed even his wish on the Triforce couldn’t undo?

Is he enthralled by time travel in-general because he assumes that’s how the Hero Of Time cheated death? Does/will he realize Old Man Time is simply living proof that his wish on the Triforce worked in ways he hadn’t thought possible?

Thinking way too much about how bashful the Vet was for a simple pat on the shoulder, how he projected onto Time stern fatherly qualities (“You haven’t worked us to the bone quite yet”) drawn from his experience with a knight uncle and blacksmith mentor.

Thinking a good amount on how of Time’s three direct successor’s, all of them are now known except for the Hero Of Legend. Thinking a good amount on how, even if ‘The Veteran’ does know, he’d keep it to himself.

Time doesn’t need to know he died in (what I believe to be) the original timeline.

He’s happy now. He has a wife and is even gonna have kids. Time literally has the idyllic life the Vet secretly wishes for himself, a well-deserved rest after having “seen the world, & traveled it tenfold.”

Knowing this is enough for the Vet, at the very least that’s what he’d tell himself.

[thejolteonmastertj]

Neat thing is the dungeon has elements from Zelda 1 AND Zelda 2… there’s that path lined by a thin, columned strip of cieling… & then that gives way to sphere topped pillars.

There’s interesting deviations from both games, however!

In the adventure of Link, as you progress into the entrance for its dungeons it feels like the roof closes in more & more…

That’s not the case for the dungeon the crew has found themselves in!

It opens up into something resembling the typical entrance for dungeons in Zelda 1… but far more elaborate & grand.

I don’t know enough about the lore behind Zelda 1 & Zelda 2’s dungeons to have much else to add, but I thought this was neat.

Likely distantly related to Rulie’s quests… perhaps connected to a few of the others if the shadow led them here. Excited to find more clues! 😁