#THESEUS

[superkooku]

Memes to make fun of Theseus (and Pirithous)

Or alternatively:

[wordsmithic]

Thank you @just-1-scorpio for taking one for the team and reviewing one of the Greek myth retellings out there that make us Greeks cringe! Great comments! I am a nitpicker myself (because imo, no cultural elements are "too small" to comment on) If I may, I'd like to add a few things because oooooh boy, do I have some comments! 😂

For "pater", my opinion as a writer is that she could've just called him "father". "Pater" is not a terminology or a special word that only the Greek language has. (Unlike "chiton" which refers to a specific type of garment) On top of that, nobody calls their father "pater", it's too archaic and cringe. They may only call their parents "pateras" and "mitera" when they speak about them to other people. So for me, this is a negative.

In Greece, Botsaris is a surname, not a name. Unless they state it's his surname and that this is what they use to call him. Sometimes we use a person's surname instead of their name if it's what distinguishes them in the public eye.

The story takes place in a futuristic Greece and yet, I can bet my right arm that it has no actual Greek culture in it. (Besides, perhaps, one poor mention of feta or baklava) I don't understand why bother with a foreign culture and location when every place and interaction reads they are in New York 2.0 . Are there any historical dates that they commemorate? Any customs that they do? etc I don't think so, but let me know if you stumble upon them!

Ok, so one of the old gods came back to save the nation. But this leaves many practical questions that Alessa Thorn hasn't considered because she consider us Greeks like a fantasy race that lives only in legends and fairytales. First of all, how and why did ALL Greeks switch their religion AGAIN after 2.000 years? Was our ethnoreligion, Christianity, not good enough anymore because....? Because one old god appeared and that was it? 2.000 years of tradition and theology ditched? Or are we not a real people, so practical things about our ethnic religion are not worth thinking about...?

"Also we also learn that in this Minos's surname is Karros. I don't know why he was given a surname." Why would it be weird for him to be given a surname? Looks perfectly fine to me. Is there a detail I don't know? Also, perhaps Karros is a Greek surname but I've never heard of it or could find it on Google. It's just an ancient word meaning "heavy sleep, drowsiness".

Now I'm curious, what is this language only Ariadne and her sister knew?

A group calling themselves the Pithos AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA wtff .... So, the group is called Pithos, but the writer uses and English word for "Spindle"? Why not "Atraktos"?? Man, that's a bad inconsistency.

"Sing, of when Greece's economy collapsed and the land was on fire with the turmoil man's governance had brought" is a VERY CLUNKY sentence. Let me try and fix it: "Sing of our nation's financial ruin and scorched land caused by man's wretched rule".

"Greece's economy collapsed and the land was on fire" I'm kinda taking the piss here but, baby, this is an average year for Greece. That alone is not going to destroy our country 😂😂😂 Also that's not enough to destroy a country in general. There are many financial mechanisms to save our banks and the economy in the long run, and we have been already in a loooong recovery plan (which Schäuble applied in the most shitty and incorrect way but whatever). So I really cannot suspend my disbelief here 😂 I promise I can suspend my disbelief when needed, but this just was too funny for me so it's a personal comment only!

It's also not clear to me if by "the ancient city of Corinth" Corinth as it exists today, oooor the archaeological site. Perhaps she means the Corinth that exists today because technically Corinth never stopped existing, and it is a place people have been living since antiquity. It's still the same place but you obviously cannot continue building in the same space for a hundred generations due to a variety of reasons (social, warfare, climate reasons etc).

I don't know why the book presents the old Corinth (let's say as of 2024) as a "major city" before its collapse but currently, Corinth is, what the USAmericans call "a town". Not negligible, but not one of the strongest ones. I know that the writer doesn't give a specific date for Corinth's greatness, however, I comment on it since I feel she only made it a "major city" because it was considered to be this 2.500 years ago and our antiquity is the only historical era she's heard of. Whatever, a little bit nitpicky... But it tells me she probably didn't look the modern version of Corinth up.

Medusa makes some sense being next to Hades because the Gorgons were considered Chthonic creatures.

"Serpentine Industries" would sound so stupid in Greek 😂😂 Also the name brought to my mind the "serpantina"/"serpentina" which we also use to describe defecation because of how shit comes out sometimes 😂 ("τον πήγε σερμπαντίνα")

"Hellas district".... baby your country is already called Hellas! 😂 Perhaps there is a road or square (not a district, that's weird) SOMEWHERE in Greece called "Greece" but I haven't seen it. We only have one area "Ellinikon" which means "Greek (business center)" but that makes sense. Districts with national names would only make sense if there were different ethnicities in the city. Aka, the Greek district, the Jewish district, the Slavic district, like we used to have in many towns around Greece during the era of Ottoman conquest.

What's worse, THOUSANDS of people have read this EKTROMA (abomination), and its rating is 4.07 stars....

I was a bit happy to see a published book consider the existence of Greece as a country but then Alessa Thorn turned this into a shitshow 😭😭😭😭😭

"Diogenes" is not too bad a name for that street but you are right, they could've found a much more fitting name! Sometimes we call the commerce streets Ermou (Hermes').

@just-1-scorpio I would be very interested if we could discuss/diss the next chapters together and do a joined review! If you are interested, send me a personal message 💜💜💜

Reading Asterion by Alessa Thron, so you don't have to. Prologue, and chapter one.

So let's start with the positives.

-I liked how the prologue had "Sing O' Muse" in it.

-The world building has some nice ideas, but I have a lot of questions.

-I like how Minos was called "pater" (father in Greek) by Ariadne.

-I like how there are some words such "chiton", and "pithos", alongside with "pater". apeard.

Wow so many positives. Now let's get to everything else.

So Ariadne is a assasin, who just killed someone. A bisnise man called Botsaris. And her sister is also mentiond.

And her sisters's name is Lia. Okey. I gues. But why did she made up a sister? Ariadne had sisters in mythology. Xenodice for exemple, but there is veary little source about her, and there are two other figures who have the same name in Greek mythology. Acacallis, there are not much writen of her, but the defrent sources agree that Minos is her father, and eather had a romance with Hermes, or Apollo. There is also her most well known sister Phaedra, who I think needs no introduction. So I don't get why she had to make one up?

And I don't know why, but for some reason this screan rubs me the wrong way. I don't know why. And I'm the only one who doas not really like this writing style?

Anyway. So after this Ariadne goas back to her apartmant, and goas to sleep. Then the next moring she goas to Minos, who is her boss, not her father. Who lives in a mension, that is also a temple, and a school for assasins, all of who work for him. By the way so far we don't know which god's temple it is. All the assasins have code names. Minos and Ariadne here a conversetion, about the last kill. Ariadne clearly hates him. Here is a part of the conversetion.

So one question. Why would people take it as evidenc that that was the reason why he was killed? Was it a public knowlige? Or I'm just stupid?

Also we also learn that in this Minos's surname is Karros. I don't know why he was given a surname.

So anyway. Ariadne recives her sister's ashes from Minos, then she goas home, and meets with her landlady, and recives a packige. She goas up to her apartmant, then this happands.

I looked up, and pithos is a type of jar. By the way.

And then there is the world building.

So aperently it eather takes place in an alternative timeline, or in the future. Or both.

This is from the prologue.

Agein, when doas this take place? Antient Corinth is already ruins. So agein when doas this take place? There are trains, cars, mobile phones, internet, and skyscrapers. I looked up, and found two Corinths. One is the ancient one, and the another one is the city's sucsesor. So did the writer mean the second one, or? Also why is it named Styx?

Also hy is Medusa working for him? Why?

Also also Hellas District? Isn't Hellas literally mean Greece?

And the rich district is named after Diogenes. I know that naming things like streets is a thing. After all here in Hungary we have streets named after Petőfi Sándor (one of our most well known poets). But naming the rich eria after Diogenes, that is full of banks, luxury shops, ect? Didn't he lived in the market place in a wine jar? I know that Alexander the Great was a big fan of him, but I'm the only one who thinks, that this naming doas not make sense. Wouldn't switching the names of the two eria make more sense? Or I'm just nickpicking, or something?

I'm to harsh?

Edit: I was wrong. "pater" is not Latin, but Greek word.

[pimsri]

Do you think they miss him lol

[orpheus-has-lyreizz]

photos taken 10 secs before disaster

[xeniums]

the singular zagreus supporter in the stands my beloved

I blow a kiss to them every time I wipe the floor with that goddamn king theseus (asterius you get a pass)

[sleeprough]

i don't care.

[weepingwidar]

Todd Bienvenu (American, 1980) - Untitled (n.d.)

[linefelcei]

Asterius taking care of the tiny one 🥺💕

[ratatoskryggdrasil]

Douglas Blanchard, Theseus,

[illustratus]

Theseus and the Minotaur by Edward Burne-Jones

[greekmythcomix]

Me: dislikes Theseus, likes minotaur, likes papercraft

Me: makes entire Labyrinth and Knossos Palace paper Playset so can kill Theseus at hands of minotaur

They also interlock to make one big Playset:

And by the way the Labyrinth walls move 👀 (and you can use it as a game board - game instructions included)

And also it’s also available in colour:

You can get your own here (https://greekmythcomixshop.Wordpress.com) if you fancy it. (These things are how I keep the rest of my main educational site free and free from ads)

[sanska]

Ariadne explaining how to navigate the labyrinth (and after) to Theseus. It’s important, she’s committing treason for you Theseus, don’t look at her like that.

[softersynths]

doodles of @gayford’s postcanon shifty design “theseus” bc i like it lots. also him meeting my shifty bc lol

[monstersandmaw]

Hey, monsterfucker Tumblr, I went to the V&A and all I got you was this Theseus and the Minotaur statue by Canova which I already know you enjoy.

[okaylokii]

💚🐃🩵

[kenneth-black]

“Stain them, I don’t care…” 🙂

[Euripides, from “Grief Lessons: Four Plays” (trans. Anne Carson)]