#Swamp potato everdeen

[thatforgottenhuman]

How Finnick won his games

Is it just me who likes to think of Finnick Odair winning his games by running and screaming and/or yelling at random people until he got his trident?

Like he just gives off that chaotic energy to me. Maybe this is why he and Annie get along so well...

Maybe it's also why Finnick started talking to Katniss about the sugar cubes.....

Because she has this chaotic energy as well!!!!

#Swamppotatoeverdeen

[indigoreed1]

Everyone was so excited that Suzanne Collins revealed the origin of Katniss’ name in ABOSAS, that no one thought to raise an eyebrow at her being named after a swamp potato?

[thehalfbloodfreak]

Imagine if Katniss’ name was just Swamp Potato

[angie-is-silly]

why is Katniss actually such a good name. I'm tempted... but also how much you wanna bet my non existent future child would either get mad compliments or a shit ton of bullying 😭

[cozycoffeewriter]

This is so funny. Swamp Potato Everdeen. 🥔 If I write a fic, Haymitch or Johanna are 100% calling Katniss that.

[highladyofterrasen7]

Lucy grey from heaven watching Swamp Potato Everdeen kick Snow’s ass

[autogeneratedkahootnickname]

Main takeaway from the new Hunger Games is that the Mockingjay, the symbol of the revolution twice victorious in the Games, was almost canonically called Swamp Potato Everdeen

[heartz4shauna]

Please tell me your thoughts on him, you said you have many (about snow) my only thought I’ve ever felt about him is the urge to punch a wall or something

i’m gonna talk about this using voice to text so sorry if there’s a lot of filler words

okay, so oh my gosh, okay so we are going to refer him as C because I don’t think this feature can understand the name that he has. so basically at the start of the movie we see him as a very like he’s obviously a young child at the start and you know that’s all tragic and whatever you know. he has to like- I don’t know what I’m talking about. we’re gonna talk about him as like when he is at the Academy first he’s walking into the Academy and he’s like low-key talking shit about his best friend. oh my God oh my God, I just had a realisation. I’m gonna freaking cry right now. I’m gonna freaking cry right now, okay spoilers his best friend dies pretty much at the hands of him like Jackie and Shauna y’all I can’t freaking do this right now. I can’t do this but we move okay? Oh my God oh my God so basically like he’s talking shit about his best friend, and then his best friend comes over and they’re all you know happy dippidy dooda. you know whatever but then we’re gonna talk about, the reaping. Lucy 😵‍💫 Gray was chosen obviously, we see him and he’s like oh my gosh like this girl she is so whimsical I am intrigued and you know he was nice. I think he was nice to Lucy 😵‍💫 like at the start. I don’t know why it keeps using that emoji when I say Lucy 😵‍💫 I’m sorry, I think they were okay at the start of the mentor tribute relationship. I think that was good. I thought they had a good relationship. I thought they were pretty cute like I like them. Not want to start dating because I knew like it would go downhill and strings would have to be pulled to get Lucy 😵‍💫 to win and then C yeah he starts becoming really like protective and not even protective like there’s really like controlling over Lucy 😵‍💫 and so there’s a part and where I think C like shoots someone I think C shoots someone backstage where Lucy 😵‍💫 is trying to perform like she’s trying to sing and you know she’s sobbing she’s crying she’s like oh my God like what the Frick is happening. and C is just like get the Frick back onto stage and you’re gonna pretend like nothing happened and it’s all gonna be fine and she’s just like okay like boyfriend like yeah sure I’ll do that whatever. and then running away to the woods and they stop at this little cabin I guess Lucy 😵‍💫 says she’s going to pick katniss, she’s gonna pick some swamp potato which she previously said was not ready for the season so then C is like this is weird. This is suspicious. I’m gonna kill you. I don’t want you to run away from me. You know that I’m crazy now but I don’t want you to go away so if you run away, I’m gonna kill you because you know all my secrets and I also don’t want you to leave and I’m a freak and I’m a weirdo and then, he hears that Katniss everdeen was reaped. He’s like I got to kill this bitch. I need her dead, she reminds me of my situationship I had when I was like 19 years old. She has to die. sorry for rambling. I had to get my chest. I needed to say something, thank you.

[thatforgottenhuman]

The word 'Katniss' has a lot of other meanings. So based on those, which alternative name for Katniss is your favorite?

[ask-lucy-gray-baird]

So have you ever heard of Katniss Everdeen and what she did like becoming the mockingjay and keep reminding Coriolanus of you with the hanging tree song and her name

Whomst’d’ve?

Why’s that person named for a swamp potato? I mean it’s a nice word alright but they can’t be from round here or it’d be like naming your child “Carrot”

[the-one-where-casey-watches-tv]

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: Is Katniss Lucy Gray's Granddaughter?

The Hunger Games prequel, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes is chock full of easter eggs and homages to the original trilogy. So much so that many folks are wondering if the District 12 survivor from years past has any relation to the Girl on Fire.

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes follows young performer Lucy Gray Baird as she is reaped for the 10th annual Hunger Games, becoming the female tribute from District 12. Her path crosses with the ambitious yet penniless teenaged Coriolanus Snow, whose curriculum at the Capitol’s Academy causes him to take a vested interest in Lucy Gray’s performance in the Games.

Tom Blyth and Rachel Zegler in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Image courtesy of IMDb.

Similar in some ways, but different in even more, Katniss Everdeen and Lucy Gray Baird both played to their strengths to survive the brutal Hunger Games. Here are the reasons some people got the idea that these two protagonists could be related.

The Timeline Checks Out

In The Hunger Games trilogy, the white-haired President Snow has a granddaughter just a couple years younger than Katniss and her sister Prim. Given that his younger self was two years older than Lucy Gray, it’s perfectly feasible that Katniss and Prim could be her descendants.

“The Hanging Tree”

Now, Lucy Gray isn’t the only one who knew this song- certainly not after performing it for a vivacious crowd of dancers at a District 12 pub. But Katniss is no performer. She gritted her teeth through any performative act she had to take to ensure her own survival, yet “The Hanging Tree” is a song she occasionally sang willingly, one she found peaceful. It must have had a special place in her heart to bring her that comfort. And why might that be? 

Jennifer Lawrence and Amandla Stenberg in The Hunger Games. Image courtesy of IMDb.

Their Strategies in the Games

Lucy Gray and Katniss handled the Games- and the mind games leading up to the Games- very differently. Yet at their core, they played the same way. Both girls played smart, rather than violent; they both waited out the initial bloodbath and took as little life as was possible, given the circumstances. When finally forced to play their hand, Lucy Gray and Katniss both did the wholly unexpected, somehow finding a third option for themselves besides kill or be killed. Their strength in not succumbing to the animal-like behavior that the Capitol so eagerly wanted to televise is an outlier that draws a connection between the two of them.

Rachel Zegler in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Image courtesy of IMDb.

Katniss

Lucy Gray had a fondness for Katniss- the plant. It’s a swamp potato that the Covey would eat on their travels. Not everyone called the plant Katniss, but Lucy Gray liked to. Did she like it enough for a child of hers to pass the name along in her honor?

Despite all these easter eggs in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes that can’t help but draw the mind to Katniss Everdeen, no relation between the two District 12 victors is ever confirmed. A strong argument can be made for one, but there are also some reasons this theory is just that- a theory.

The Covey

 Lucy Gray Baird is a member of the Covey, a traveling performance troupe that happened to be settled in District 12 at the time of the 10th annual Hunger Games. Her Covey identity is so important to her that she is reluctant to call herself a resident of District 12, despite being reaped as the district’s female tribute. Yet, there is no mention of the Covey in The Hunger Games. The group is a new addition to The Hunger Games world with The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. If Katniss was related to Lucy Gray, they would only be two generations removed, and Lucy Gray’s Covey identity would likely play a role in Katniss’s sense of self as well. The complete absence of the Covey in Katniss’s story casts some doubt on the possibility of a connection between the two girls.

Rachel Zegler in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Image courtesy of IMDb.

District 12 

The Covey complicates things even further. Given that they are a traveling group, to the extent that Lucy Gray refused to call District 12 home, it seems unlikely that she spent the rest of her life there. When you add in the fact that, at the end of The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, she and Coriolanus had set out to leave the districts and never return, the thought of her establishing a family in District 12 feels even more far-fetched. The prequel ends on an ambiguous note, with Lucy Gray deliberately losing Coriolanus in the forest, so it’s hard to say if she ever saw 12 again, much less made meaningful connections there.

Radically Different Personalities

 Lucy Gray’s reaping consisted of her dropping a snake down another girl’s dress and then bursting into song. Katniss’s reaping found her intensely and tearfully volunteering in her sister’s place. The contrast between Lucy Gray’s levity and Katniss’s seriousness is a constant in their personalities. Lucy Gray, a performer for a living and a performer for survival, won Capitol hearts with her charm and voice. Katniss, on the other hand, had to be begged to grin and bear it, to give a single twirl, to save not just herself but Peeta- whose affability was an essential counterpart to her stone-faced persona. If the two girls are related, a similar demeanor is not one of the clues.

Jennifer Lawrence and Stanley Tucci in The Hunger Games. Image courtesy of IMDb.

Ultimately, though, we’ll never know for sure. It’s possible that The Ballad of Songbirds and Snake’s homages to Katniss served more as an explanation as to why the Girl on Fire bothered President Snow so much. Maybe she just got under his skin because she reminded him a little too much of the girl who bested him and broke his heart all those years ago- related or not.

What's your gut telling you? Do you think these two share blood? Or just that powerful fighting spirit?

[finnicks-elbow]

the moment they alluded to katniss-'swamp potato'-everdeen in tbosas...

[badnovels]

swamp potato everdeen also has a nice ring to it

[districtfourmermaid]

!!!SPOILERS. A Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. My Thoughts. SPOILERS!!!

I just finished the Ballad, the prequel book to the Hunger Games Trilogy. I have a lot of feelings. Spoilers under the cut. If the cut doesn’t work for you, scroll fast. 

I’m keeping thoughts here to brief points just to get the ideas down. Might flesh them out at a later date. 

The Trilogy exploring Just War theory, and the Ballad exploring human nature. What are we at our core? Are humans inherently good or evil? How would one even determine this when context matters so much and can never be neutral? 

The theme of the loss of innocence. How a “vapid” child whose favorite things about war are fancy uniforms, parades, and fireworks can grow into a cold leader who uses those very things to sweeten and strengthen the presence of the Games in Panem culture. 

The relationship between Tigris and Coriolanus and how she must feel by the time of the Trilogy about his rule and treatment of people. Plus, her being much older than we originally are lead to believe, getting to see her at the start of her career and before her feline transformation, hinted at with her raw meat craving. I want more on her story.

Lucy Gray Baird as Katniss and Prim’s grandmother. I know her fate is ambiguous, but the way she preferred “katniss” over “swamp potato” because “it has a nice ring to it” and the fact that Katniss’s name was her grandma’s idea. 

Sejanus’s position in society. District transplant into the Capitol where he has no friends, new or old, and feeling both socially and philosophically lost. His presentation as a simple, if sad, character masking a deeper passion for the rebellion and much less honestly than he presents on the surface. 

The history of inter-District travel in Panem. We do not get a lot of information on pre-war Panem, but the Covey are certainly something. And vacation destinations in the Districts for Capitol citizens and maybe even District people too. And there is no mention of a perimeter fence yet in D12.

The songs! The true origin of The Hanging Tree and our first look at the Lullaby. The actual perspective of The Hanging Tree is very similar to Katniss’s interpretation but slightly different. Further connection of Lucy Gray (maybe Maude Ivory, I’ll take it) as the Everdeen grandma. I need professional recordings of most of the Covey songs right now, please. 

Coriolanus and Lucy Gray’s relationship and his perspective of it. I think he sees himself very differently from how the audience can see him. He says things in such a way that you know he thinks he’s being romantic or innocent, when really, he’s no good. He clearly looks down on her despite thinking he cares for her. His jaded feelings about love going forward and the fact that we know he does go on to have at least one grandchild, which is chillingly in-character. 

Coriolanus being responsible for the Games’ evolution from disturbing annual event few care to witness or keep up with at all to the spectacle we know in the Trilogy. I want to know about his entire Gamemaking career. 

Coriolanus in the Trilogy probably maintaining that lack of self awareness and continuing to think he’s actually doing good. When he lectures Katniss about how hard a flame can be to control, the background he’s coming from. How he may even think he understands what she and other District citizens go through just because of what he went through during and after the Dark Days. Like he knows hunger and chaos, so he’s right in his actions. 

[journiland]

So Youngest and I just looked up the plant katniss, and another name is swamp potato.

Swamp Potato Everdeen 😂