#Sqq's life is a tragedy
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Oh I just realized shen jiu doesn't have an official birthday,, cuz he was a slave qwq when do y'all celebrate it? Or do y'all headcanon he has the same birthday as shen Yuan as part of the sj-is-sy-in-different-worlds theory?
(under the cut, I wouldnt say I'm bashing Sy but I'm not that positive about him so don't read if you like him, I'm just ranting, I am genuinely curious when ppl celebrate sj's birthday lol)
Honestly I don't really like the sj-is-Sy thing tho it makes sense. (sj gets reborn in a diff world without his memories, lives a better life, etc etc)
I just like having shen jiu be his own person. Shen yuan is great and all but man when you think about it, even though he didn't ask for it, he basically stole someone else's life and lived it much better than how the original goods did just because he doesn't have the trauma ogsqq did.
Also speaking of shen yuan, is it canon that he's sickly??? Since so many ppl write in fics about how he was hospitalised a lot in his youth or stuff like that. I really don't remember much from the novel, as you can see XD all I remember is he likes ready trashy novels lol
Man I never really sympathise with the original villain in these transmigrated-into-villain-role stories but ogsqq somehow really pulled on my heartstrings. Like at first I didn't like him too, I always root for the main character (being Sy) and didn't really care whatever happened to the original. But these days I tend to avoid any shen yuan content (unless he's liujiu's son lmao) because idk I find it hard to read about him now lolol.
Anyway, I will stick to my lane of og!sqq content and stay far away from anything that doesn't make me happy, even if it is the main character of the novel himself. This blog is supposed to be my happy place after all, and pretty shen jiu always makes me happy~
#talking to myself#Sqq's life is a tragedy#Which is why I want to spoil him and keep him safe in my little blog#Also know that whenever I say sqq I refer to original goods#Sy will be referred to as sy#My baby deserves all the good things in the world#No more hurt#Only hugs and thirst traps
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honestly postcanon i need shen qingqiu to tell yue qingyuan his sincere opinion, that he really likes and respects zhangmen-shixiong as a person and always thought he was cool. because i think it'd completely break yue qi's brain
#keri chats#shen qingqiu#yue qingyuan#shen yuan#svsss#scum villain's self saving system#listen i love 79 but shen jiu is 1) dead 2) a bitter bitch who had multiple chances at a happier life and actively chose to not take them#instead of starting afresh he CHOSE on purpose to continue the cycle of abuse. his victimhood explains his flaws but it doesn't absolve him#as poignant as yqy's tragedy is tbh i do wanna see him move on postcanon & actually eventually be happy fr. sj has been dead for decades#hearing praise from sqq even if sy is a different person (albeit still a thin-faced one) would be so hglakdjsfkd#tl;dr even though qijiu is my tylenol i think in a scenario where sj doesnt exist anymore yqy needs to move on and get some vitamin D#yqy would probably not handle a system reveal well but the idea of him still being an older brother figure to sy warms my heart
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See I don't necessarily disagree with what seems to be the primary reading that Yue Qingyuan's shifu fucked him over, caring nothing for his needs or preferences and only for whether he was useful. That makes sense, it ties into plenty of the generational and societal themes of the story. It fits.
But iirc we don't actually get enough information to know that's what happened.
And the thing is it would be so in-character and also thematically appropriate if Yue Qingyuan absolutely did not explain his goals or why he was working so hard, because it was private and shameful and he didn't expect any sympathy, and there was a high risk of losing everything if he blabbed.
And also if he engaged with the existing ruleset with which he was presented, i.e. 'can't go off on your own on personal business until you've mastered your sword,' in the most negative and controlling manner possible, as absolute commandments.
He's a different kind of guy but he comes from the same background as Shen Jiu! It fucked him up also!
He is very very very not a guy who trusts the system to make allowances for him--even once he has all the power he 'does what he wants' and 'makes selfish choices' as a conscious transgression; not something he has a right to do, just something he can get away with so he's gonna. (And ofc he spends almost all the latitude he grants himself on sqq.)
And even less is he a guy who opens up easily.
He isn't too proud to ask for help or pity, so much as he just doesn't expect to get any.
So in this interpretation, he understood that rule as a non-negotiable barrier in his path, the target to overcome, and focused all his considerable will and talent on overcoming it through the sphere of action he felt he had control over.
And fucked himself up bad.
Whereupon his teacher, possessing absolutely no context for this dumb shit their star pupil pulled, did the only thing they thought might work to save his life, paying in the process no attention to the raving of someone deep in a psychotic break.
Like, I feel like there should have been a better, kinder medical option, but I don't know for sure that there was, so I can't say with certainty this was the kind of cruelty that derives from not caring enough.
And it really would be kind of elegant and so typical of Yue Qingyuan's fundamental tragedy if the real mistake was 'not confiding in anybody' the whole time.
And he was just so deeply sunk into the understanding that explaining and asking were useless that, even looking back, it never really occurred to him that maybe his mistake wasn't 'fucking it up when trying too hard to solve everything on his own' but 'assuming there was no help to be had, and that he had to do it all on his own.'
Like. What if this really could all have been avoided if he'd just trusted and communicated with the adult in charge of him? But of course, of course his history of trauma (neglect, child abuse, exploitation, being the One Responsible for the younger kids whom he could not keep safe) meant he was absolutely not going to do that.
It was basically impossible. For the person he was, the person the world had made of him. And that's always been the core tragedy the whole novel circles back upon.
People can only ever be themselves, and so very often the elements of self that let them survive until now are that which dooms them, that means they need someone else to intervene if they're ever going to be saved. Because your personal doom is always the thing from which you can't save yourself.
#hoc est meum#JUST LIKE SHEN JIU#yue qingyuan#svsss#scum villain#meta#trauma#ambiguous backstory elements#tragedy#growing into your deathmask#the fact that shen jiu got in#and got promoted#tends to imply the former generation wasn't particularly inflexible#or unwilling to entertain deviance#the fact that yqy got made Sect Leader#despite his disability#suggests his teacher valued him#on a personal level#though not necessarily a level that gave a shit#about his happiness or wellbeing#but we srsly do not know
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Xie Lian isn’t a hero.
I started with TGCF first when I was introduced to danmei, and I was floored by what I read. It wasn’t just boys kissing in ancient china, it was actually about human tragedy and the selfishness of the omnipotent.
The theme of TGCF doesn’t revolve around XL alone. It’s much bigger than that. This isn’t a ‘TGCF is better’ post, but rather, TGCF is different. And it’s different because Xie Lian isn’t a typical human hero.
XL is not a heroic character like WWX, and he isn’t a sarcastic/comedic relief hero like SQQ. And it isn’t because of their personalities. XL is just as selfless as WWX and just as unreasonably punished as both other MC’s. However, when bad things happen to WWX, you know it’s because of his personality. Because of his kindness, his confidence, his wit. It’s simply BECAUSE it’s WWX as the protagonist.
Same with SVSSS. That story couldn’t have happened without Shen Yuan in SQQ’s body. Like we never would have gotten that level of sarcasm, pity, and empathy. And the novel tells you that repeatedly. Everything that happens in the previous two novels does so because of who the main character is.
But when things happen in TGCF, XL isn’t even the center of the conflict. It’s almost always someone else’s fault, someone else’s business, or someone else’s issue he just happens to be present for. But somehow, it always comes back to him. It’s always his job to resolve things.
Unlike WWX, the conflict isn’t his fault. WWX actively pushes the narrative with his actions. He drives the conflict and later becomes it. Whether he’s at fault or not is the point of his story, but for XL, he’s really just incredibly unlucky. He’s tragic in the sense that he’s just being fucked over by everyone in his life. For what? For being…wonderful!?
I absolutely love that his one little phrase pissed off the evil emperor of heaven. Like his mere existence is a problem.
It’s an incredible piece of writing that the things that get him into trouble are his altruism. Altruism that is fitting for someone who thinks himself a GOD. But also, altruism that many of us mortals share.
Why CANT he save his people if he’s a god? Why CANT he answer everyone’s prayers? Why is he not good enough or strong enough to resolve this conflict if he’s literally a GOD.
XL is constantly facing issues and asking questions that humanity itself has asked.
Why isn’t god answering me, why isn’t god helping me, why do we have a god at all? TGCF has a commentary that doesn’t limit itself to just XL and the type of person he is in the way that MDZS relies on WWX and SVSSS relies on SQQ.
Those novels are how most novels typically function. You choose a specific type of human and see the world through their eyes.
But XL isn’t human. Not in the way he acts nor in the way he tells this story. He tells you everything he witnesses and it barely affects him anymore. He just has some wise thoughts about what everything means.
But TGCF isn’t asking: what would happen if a kind prince ascended to godhood?
Instead—
TGCF begs the question:
What if you told the story of humanity, not through the eyes of a human, but through the eyes of god.
Xie Lian is god.
XL is 800yrs old, has lived through countless tragedies, celebrations, friendships, betrayals, and he ascends. Again.
He’s been stuck with the burden of immortality and now he’s re entering the place that gave him that burden. He walks into heaven to see new gods, but the same old problems. And the whole vibe he has in this is less benevolent and wonderful and more like a fed up mom who’s tired of seeing the girls fighting.
He sits back and watches these issues devolve and shuffles his way into the conflict by accident. Because he’s the only one competent enough to do anything about it.
XL doesnt react like a human being, at the start of the current timeline, he’s a god.
He’s an 800yr old god. He’s seen everything, learned everything.
We see this prince who thinks himself a god then become one. And instead of learning what it means to be a god so he can help the common man— he learns what it means to be a common man so he can become a real god.
XL goes through HELL. He loses countless times, is left, betrayed, ruined, trampled, destroyed. He is constantly being thwarted by not just people but the very gods he worshipped and the god he himself became. But again— XL isn’t even that big of a personality for us to cling to that alone and see how these things happened to him??
He isn’t boasting about how great he is out of pride and ego, he isn’t rampaging or going mad with power, he isn’t a huge character. But his lack of those qualities is what triggers Jun Wu to ruin him. He wants to see him go crazy, wants to see him struggle. Wants to see his ego and pride. And he’s not the only one!!!
Mu Qing is also incredibly jealous, so are the other gods!!! And Qi Rong, his own family!!! His parents even get upset with him for not doing enough. Everyone saw this kid blessed with so much and started wishing for him to break. And they succeed. He goes insane, he starts killing, he starts wanting to die, he starts losing faith.
But MAN it is just so gorgeous to me that this character is almost…forced to be a main character? Forced to suffer, forced to make mistakes, forced to be a problem. He is so powerful and smart and incredible and then he is made to believe he is nothing. Here is this god who has been forced to feel HUMAN.
And once he finally feels that way, once he finally falls to the ground and loses everything, someone comes by and offers his hat.
And that’s all it takes for a man to truly become a god.
TGCF asks what if you told a story through the eyes of god? It shows you this guy sighing through drama and fixing peoples problems.
And then it goes back and tells you: What makes a man, god?
And we read all of XL’s history. His victories and failures. And it perfectly describes how he’s ascended again. Not out of heroics this time. But out of his pure humanity.
God is a kind, gentle, but confident man who wanders around helping who he can and opening his doors to those who wish to come in. He resolves the conflicts he’s there for, and takes note of those he wasn’t there for. He trudges along holding no grudges and sighing when people make mistakes. He loves selflessly and holds no judgment. He feels strange letting people take care of him but he will take care of you. When he can, and when he has the chance, he will take care of you.
XL is almost born with every book definition of what a god is: kind, selfless, strong, and true. But his story forces him to learn how to be human instead. To fail, die, love, kill and suffer. And when that god was beaten and broken, he was saved by one thing. A human.
That’s how you become a god. And that’s what it means to be one. To be human. To be a good person.
XL couldn’t have been a WWX. He couldn’t have been a staple protagonist with a heart of gold, wit and passion. He couldn’t have had a story with everyone’s conflict directly tied to him and because of him. That isn’t what TGCF is for.
It isn’t about XL himself. It’s about god. It explores the selfishness that comes with immortality, and the selflessness that comes with mortality.
There are other aspects that make it a nice protag story. He falls in love, he’s kinda air headed and sassy. He did have the character and maturity to choose to become a wonderful godlike person but that’s a post for another day. But honestly, if this were a regular novel, it probably would’ve been about Hua Cheng. He lives for love and passion and devotion. He kills and saves and sacrifices, he denies godhood and wins the girl in the end. Now THATS a hero.
But XL isn’t a hero. He’s a god.
MXTX wrote a story that wasn’t about a sheepish prince who lost it all, but instead wrote a story about gods and humans. She wrote what reads like a Greek epic to me. With such hard comments on morality and cruelty. She really hit me with everything I love about literature. And yes I do love MDZS and SVSS but TGCF is different.
Like guoshi said: the gods are human, after all. But XL above them all, is most definitely a god.
#im honestly pretty sure if Jun Wu hadn’t ruined XL’s life he woudlve become like LQQ and been a little stupid LMAO#Jun Wu could never#TGCF#heaven official's blessing#heaven officials blessing#hob#hualian#xie lian
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is there any "what ifs" that you would explore with syonr? like when it's finished, would you write aus of the aus? i've seen some writers do that and i find it so interesting.
yes and no! I have a lot of "what ifs" ideas in my head, but I think there's only one I would ACTUALLY write out? But because I too love aus of aus, let me list a few of them uwu
*clears throat*
What if Shen Yuan had never left Lady Jia? This is the idea I want to write at some point! Would still be BingYuan, with some intense gender fuckery going on <_<
Some others are;
What if Shen Yuan reincarnated as a girl? if you think SQQ is overprotective now, you have seen NOTHING. Binghe would be fighting for his goddamn life. SY would fight for her own dignity, because OBVIOUSLY she has to become a WIFE, but SQQ is weird as fuck about Sweet Girls Under His Protection and the only reason LBH isn't already dead is because SY is frantically wielding her "i'm your widdle baby girl!" powers at SQQ to shield him. There would be no roomie situation. RIP. But NYY would be hyped about having a sister! And SY wouldn't have any trauma from Zhao De, because MF would be like !!!!!!!!!!!! DONT BULLY A GIRL!!!!!!!! which means Zhao De sticks around and focuses his bullying on MF instead. Lovingly. If you guys haven't read "Toxic" by Prim the Amazing yet, well..............
What if Yue Qingyuan managed to take Shen Yuan? This would basically just be PIWD. SQQ would not take it nicely at all, seeing his Qi-ge taking in a mini-SJ and spoiling him rotten. SY would NOT be allowed on Qing Jing at all, but SY is also Binghe-obsessed and Binghe is in turn SY-obsessed. The only reason SQQ would not abuse SY out of pure jealousy and self-hatred is because SY isn't under his control. YQY would be an adoring fool but also SY would probably not feel 100% safe considering he knows that YQY always yields to SQQ in canon... On top of that, SQQ would most likely treat Binghe much like he did in PIWD. There are perhaps a FEW things that would, maybe, make him treat Binghe better out of pure spite but it would take many twists and turns for that. In the end, BingYuan in this would be Romeo and Juliet romance that would end in insane tragedy for all involved and CQM in flames. Unless Binghe manages to run off to Bai Zhan Peak. A big If.
What if Shen Yuan had met *** while at Lady Jia? Well SY would have brought *** with him to CQM instead! Or *** would have helped him escape and then years later............... hmm but that's a different arc.
There's more but :D
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svsss is all fun and happy endings until you remember:
Liu Qingge was doomed to pine for SQQ for the rest of his life KNOWING he choose that half demon child that he fought over and over again for five years to protect SQQ’s honor EVEN AFTER death
because even after he was sure SQQ died he could never just move on AND HE ACCEPTED IT and risked his life over and over again just to NOT EVEN BE acknowledged by SQQ in the end
Talk about unrequited love and overlooked tragedies
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it drives me crazy that sqh's incredulity at the fact that bingmei can dedicate himself and be happy just doing mundane things like making noodles kind of parallels bingge's derision at the notion that his alternate self doesn't even have one wife. it also parallels sqq's own thoughts on the matter-- the fact that for some time it was shocking to him luo binghe was happier living a mostly domestic life than conquering the world.
it's about the toxic masculinity and shifting away from it. it's about realizing that the path of pride, doesn't lead to happiness
pursuing such path caused shen jiu's tragedy
pursuing such path made bingge miserable, even if he was late to know it
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okaaaayy, so, i saw a post that i think was sort of targeted towards one of my posts talking about how "lbh was better than me bc i too would've gone bat shit insane"
"I've seen a post saying that that they understand LBH going bat-shit crazy because one guy (Shen Jiu) rejected him, and that they would've done the same."
and i would just like to say that i am in no way justifying bingge or bingmei's actions, and i think i made it pretty clear that i knew how fucked and unhinged lbh was ahaha..? though it's not just because one guy rejected him, but because of the terrible side dishes, nasty after taste, and tragedy galore!
all i was rlly doing was putting myself in lbh's shoes. in my post, i was saying how if i was thoroughly bullied and alone throughout my whole life and then was randomly taken cared of by someone and proceeded to fall completely in love with them, and then out of nowhere they turned a complete 180 and pretty much told me to fuck myself bc of my race and pushed me down into literal hell, i think i would've gone crazy! absolutely bonkers. then that person kept running away from me when i'm just trying to talk to them? i don't know how my mental health would be able to take that! the post was more placed in a joke-y manner, but i do think that i would've done the same if that was my situation. is that okay? hell to the fucking no, i'd be horrified of myself if i were to see me doing that no matter the reason. the same goes for the og, the pidw binghe's situation
and really, the same goes for sj as well. if throughout my whole life i was on the streets and then a slave and beaten etc... shit, i probably would've turned out just like him. it doesn't make it right, and i'm not justifying it, but i'm placing myself in the characters' shoes and understanding how they came to be such a way
so, i was pretty much saying that i understood luo binghe, though in no way did i mean to excuse his actions. but i understand that it sounded like i was justifying it, so i can 100% see that now looking back which i am completely at fault for. and, i for one also dislike it when people try to downplay luo binghe's actions or justify what he did
"by your logic, can we excuse serial killers going on a rampage because the person they liked refused them?" no, absolutely not. and no, i wouldn't be okay with a crazy bastard taking it out on someone i cherish for a stupid reason. i wouldn't be okay with someone taking it out on anyone for any reason. there is a line between reality and fiction that i do not cross, and even in fiction i can very thoroughly recognize the fucked up side of my favorite characters
lbh's fucked and definitely a little more than unhinged, and i don't truly think that he's a completely good or even bad person, but i do appreciate that (at least, to me) he seems to try to become a better one after all of that at the end of the series and recognizes that he can't own sqq
and, hey, sj is one of my favorite characters! i enjoy how mxtx made the svsss characters be fucked in some degree. like how lqg thinks just beating up his disciples is a valid teaching method. i enjoy stories with characters who aren't necessarily "good" or "bad" only. moral ambiguity with characters is so interesting!
i really don't think that we should be putting lbh stans and sj stans against each other because, well, there will always be people on both sides who justify the characters' actions. it's not just one side is doing this and the other side isn't doing that, ykwim? and this isn't even just about lbh and sj when we think about it, it's how some people perceive characters who are morally questionable and don't truly look at all sides of the character! the bad, the good, and the ugly
i love sj and lbh, i love my characters with ambiguous morals, and i love that i can put myself in their shoes and see where they're coming from/why they're the way they are no matter how delightfully screwed it is. especially bingge, he's a deliciously tragic and horrible person
so, if i were to believe that lbh's (or tbh any svsss's characters') actions were okay and justified, and also proceeded to believe so if it took place in real life, then there "might" just be something wrong with me
#this is not meant to attack the other poster! i just wanted to explain myself and give some thoughts#sorry if this post was a little messy lol#hey if it wasnt targeted towards me then im sorry about that but i think this still stands#also i think the difference between lqg and sj's teaching is that sj went out of his way to directly target lbh#like providing him a fake manual etc#not justifying lqg btw but that provides a reason why people dont give lqg a lot of shit#like yes he does actively also go out of his way to beat up his disciples though sj just wanted to sabotage lbh for a reason-#-us fans don't know!#this is all so silly#svsss#mxtx svsss#svsss meta#luo binghe#shen qingqiu#shen jiu#liu qingge
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It's the things you don't see (That can be Misunderstood)
@werinia
You have probably seen that idea somewhere. Evil sqh. He is not going to change tragic moments. They are the best part of his book. Porn can disappear but these would stay. So if butterfly effect is going to destroy a tragedy or an important plot moment he will save them. SQQ & YQY tragedy and SXY&TLJ tragedy were saved. When LBH stuck too far away from where he should stop. SQH took him and brought to Washerwoman. She decided that he is a father of a child, so SQH named himself Luo Feiji. He was helping Washerwoman with money, which could let her to stay alive but… LBH didn't want to leave from his adopted mother so SQH killed her. LBH swears to find his 'father'.
AN: Huh, this is my first time seeing this idea... hmmm, this idea plot goes against all my Airplane!Shang Qinghua characterization on how I have him. Even at his evilness in my brain, Shang Qinghua is more about going with the flow, inaction, apathy, but occasionally spiteful sabotage against those who fuck with him or mess with his ideas and plots. (Still very much he who wrote Binghe, it just takes... a lot to open that side to him)
So, I'm gonna take this idea and probably mangle it beyond recognition. Sorry, I'll try and incorporate as much as possible. (Hope you still enjoy it)
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There were many ways a certain An Ding Peak Lord found himself waking up on some days. On the rare, like finding a once-in-a-never-before-seen-treasure if you weren't the protagonist or Author god of this world, Shang Qinghua could actually wake up fully rested, no dreams to torment him or anyone but birdsong to wake him up. Otherwise, it was a random pick of if someone was knocking (well, more like banging) on his door with a 'sect emergency' of sorts. On others, his King could sometimes come for a morning report instead of his nightly one, bringing with him an uncomfortable chill and frozen feet for Shang Qinghua to welcome the day to.
But if there is one thing Airplane hates waking to, it must be the System's ungodly screeching alarm.
!WARNING: WORLD COLLAPSE IF PROTAGONIST DIES!
"I heard you the first fucking time damn it." the brunet transmigrator curses, dressing and disguising himself more akin to a shady merchant than the actual Peak Lord he just so recently became. If he's going where he thinks he is, considering all the drama that happened with a certain Head Disciple and Demon Lord, and a Protagonist in trouble, that can only mean one thing.
Something happened at the Luo River; just great, just what he needed right now. Of course he wants to spend his night looking for a baby in an icy river, thank you world so much for that.
Grumbling, Shang Qinghua goes down one of the many secret tunnels in An Ding, with it twisting and winding down into a deserted valley, where he is soon off like a shoot on his sword.
As he spends most of his night with the system blaring an alarm in his ear, constantly having to cast a life-detecting spell, Airplane truly curses the fact he had to have little Binghe born when it was so damn cold; sure, his cultivation helps him keep out the worst of it, but it does not stop the fucking fact it is still cold enough that he can literally feel the chill from his sword to his feet. Nature can and still is the biggest bitch out there, no matter what.
It is with no little relief that he finally gets the ding he wanted from his spell, showing a human life finally.
Getting little future Demon Emperor from his basket, Shang Qinghua sighs in relief seeing the baby is just really cold, something the Peak Lord can easily fix with his abilities. Eyeing the basket, Shang Qinghua struggles a bit with himself before sighing, he places one of his emergency coin purses in it, something he knows will at least help out and hopefully not get him anymore System Alarms for a while. After getting himself and the baby situated as he stands above the water, he then casts an invisibility spell upon himself, settling in to wait for a certain washerwoman to finally come so he can direct a basket down her way... Not realizing in his drained and tired state it didn't work like it should have.
(Years later, Binghe listens to his mother as she swears to anyone that will listen that it must have been his father's spirit that must have pushed the little baby over to her washing, waiting, willing hands. After all, how else could a healthy little baby survive going down the stream on one of the coldest nights of the year? Even as she weakens, she could never forget the barely there, almost more an outline of fog then man that had directed a basket down her way, and the relief in brown eyes when he saw her take him before he disappeared in the dawn's light.
Binghe grows, knowing if nothing else, at least one of his birth parents must have loved him, if they even defied death to ensure he could live with his poor, but ever so loving mother. It makes him wonder at times, about his origins, makes him want to find out more about his history and his first parents.
As it is, Airplane Shooting Towards the Sky spends the day after his little rescue working through a migraine and the mother of all colds.)
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SQH gets Binghe to his Mother: Check
Washerwoman sees him and thinks it's Binghe's Father: Check
Shang Qinghua provides funds: Check
Binghe grows up knowing about a 'Father' and wants to find (more info about) him: Check
I can say I kept to the spirit of it at least? Hope you liked this, sorry it came so late.
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Hi,.....if you don't mind me asking, can I ask your top 5 (or top 3) favorite characters from SVSSS? And why you loved them? And your top 5 favorite moments from the novel? Sorry if you've answered this question before....Thanks....
Sorry for the late reply, I was offline for a bit when it was sent and the notif got buried!
Characters
Yue Qingyuan. I think it will come as no surprise to anyone given my blog title and header lol. Explaining why I love him so much would turn into a full character analysis, but he is just So soggy and bitable. He tries so hard but lives in a world where he's destined to fail, both because of his background and the narrative he's trapped in. He cares so much in a world that will never reward him for that. He repeats the same mistakes over and over because he can't see an alternative path. He is SO SAD AND SO DIVORCED and so traumatized but probably has a complete inability to recognize that fact and he loves and loves and loves but love is not enough to save anyone.
Shen Jiu. He's probably the reason I'm obsessed with SVSSS, instead of just having a passing interest. A week or two after I read the novel for the first time, I started thinking about him and just ended up full on weeping. I find his character incredibly compelling; I love absolute messes, and I really really love seeing a depiction of trauma where the character does not come out stronger or "beautifully broken". It's hard not to be compelled by a character who literally represents the cycle of abuse, who is allowed by the narrative to be both tragic victim and heinous abuser, who is allowed to show what abuse does to people. On a lighter note, I find his younger personality very funny, especially with his dynamic with Yue Qi. He's an absolute gremlin and he lends well to absurdity in lighter fics.
Luo Binghe. Who doesn't love the protagonist!! My reasons for loving Binghe overlap with my reasons for loving SJ— they're foils after all— but I think the core of it is that Binghe is just Deeply Human. He’s just a little guy who’s desperate to be loved. He’s a poorly trained puppy biting down to hold on to the only person who’s ever treated him properly. He’s never done anything wrong in his life.
Shen Qingqiu. His internal dialogue/ narration is why SVSSS is so fun to read! He’s the man shaping this tragedy into a comedy. He’s so insane and so unselfaware, I need to dissect him. Ultimately he’s just a really fun character! 10/10 would chuck him at a wall.
Liu Qingge. He has sword autism what more need I say. I don't talk about him as much on here because my interpretation of him tends to contradict fanon, but I love him so much and I shove him into so many OT3s. Bonus: Qi Qingqi and Mu Qingfang. They're the two background characters with minimal characterization I've latched on to and created massive sprawling headcanons for. This is mostly because I think they are both very sexy.
Moments So fun fact I have clinical memory issues and it’s been a little bit since I read all of SVSSS, so this is WAY harder for me, and I'll definitely miss something. But of what I can recall:
Xiao Jiu threatening to bash another boy’s head in with a rock, and Yue Qi saying “he didn’t mean it”, even though SJ Definitely Meant It and YQ Definitely Knew That. I just find it cute when children are violent I guess 🤣 (Cheng Qian my beloved), and It kind of foreshadows their later dynamic where YQY covers for SQQ without question— YQY thinks he’s doing the same thing as when they were kids, and SQQ thinks YQY is trying to sweep a troublesome mess under the rug. In general, YQY puts a lot more value on their times as slaves than SQQ does/ is more nostalgic for it (probably because YQY’s Intensely traumatic moments were after he joined CQMS, whereas the worst parts of SQQ’s life were all before that point (until Bingge lol))
YQY paying for SQQ’s gambling at the the IAC. Canonized his findom kink.
“My hand slipped 🙂” YQY’s sexist moment in the book imo. Makes me scream on reread.
CQMS will always stand by you 🥹🥹🥹 (honestly any moment where LQG/YQY/the other PLs go to bat for SQQ)
“In this life I’ll give all my loyalty to you” I LOVE THIS LINE SO MUCH AND IM SO SAD MTXT CUT IT IN THE REVISION
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What I'd really love to see is a svsss au where shen yuan had the immense powers from saiki k.
Like, svsss is already a romcom of a guy shunted into a fantasy world with meta knowledge and immense power for no reason apart from 'make a happy ending' as a fairly thick veneer over an absolute hot mess of a tragedy with a happy ending, red flags galore, complete with a protagonist completely removed from the concept of romance and resigned to his fate of being abandoned by the people around him because of the circumstances he was 'born' into, but he's funny about it.
The disastrous life of saiki k is a fast paced crack comedy about a guy granted immense power for no reason with meta knowledge of the world as a thick veneer over something a little darker and traumatic with a happy ending, complete with a protagonist completely removed from the concept of romance and resigned to being ignored by the people around him because of the circumstances he was born into, but he's hilarious about it.
Now I don't think it should be a 1-1 transplant of saiki to the svsss world, but to imagine an sy with those powers who didn't manage to find loyal friends, who moved out to live alone as soon as possible to avoid issues with his powers, who gravitated to web novels because of their regular updates as opposed to being constantly spoiled for books with finished endings. An sy who despite his ridiculous levels of power died alone in a stupid way and woke up in a world filled with people who also had immense and varied powers, dealing with the prospect of immortality when his own powers are still constantly growing and interfering with his life, but be silly about it.
I want to see a sy with telepathy still failing to understand what lbhs deal is because of his own denial, a sy with the power to crush mountains with a finger trying not to blow down walls with a sneeze because someone put him on a mountain FILLED with plants in SPRING, an sy who deleted an entire country from the planet aged four trying to dodge overly enthusiastic maidens he keeps saving because he doesn't want to steal from the protagonist and also no, lady, please. Shen yuan sitting in the water prison absolutely deadpan as people try and scare him with 10 iq stories about the acid waterfalls. An sy who hares around the peak trying to avoid being spotted on valentines day as he redirects unwanted admirers and improves his disciples dates just so they can all have a good day.
An sqh who really, honestly truly doesn't know how pidw was made real, honest!! All he could do was see ghosts! It's not his fault the story he wrote to make rent turned into all of this!! But because you're here can you pretty please make some ice, I'm in desperate need of air con and my king hasn't showed up in weeks!
Sqq and sqh playing telepathic chess during boring meetings and sqq leaving him to suffer when sqh is asked a question even though he himself knows the answer.
Lbh trying everything to get shizuns attention and discovering his total weakness to his cooking. Like, will let you cheat in class levels of bribery.
Sqq stalking dourly through fields of aphrodisiac plant because he's raised his body temperature high enough to burn out any pollen before it gets too close and the system just despairing at getting this man to do something interesting.
Cat!sqq transforming back as fast as he can because he's got a meeting in half an hour and having to rush around trying to find something to cover the cat ears he didn't manage get rid of.
Shen qingqiu pulling out his limiters and dropping the mask to reveal a deity in the shape of a man, something crafted purely of psychic energy and burning fury, determined to hold maigu ridge together and keep the realms apart with his will alone, to save luo binghe if it killed him again. A shining aura stretching miles, glowing like a star, halting the earthquake with his bare hands.
Sqq seeing a bug and freaking out so hard he teleports to the northern demon realm and lands in a slushy pond, and sqh nearly giving him away because of how hard he's laughing.
#Like honestly the parallels are great#Long post#Sqq leaning hard into the aloof elegant scholar vibes because he still struggles to control his strength even with the limiters#He doesn't want to hurt anyone.#Sqh: please please tell me what my king is thinking right now he's been glaring at me all day!#Sqq (having been forced to hear an endless carnal monologue for hours from him): oh no not a chance. No way are you getting me involved.#Sqq: whatever insane thing you two have going on go ahead. Just don't involve anyone else in that EVER.#Sqh: bro 😭?!#Sqq: *makes a peace sign and goes invisible*#Sqh: BRO?!! Not even... Expensive northern import for the protagonist to cook with?#Sqq: *reappears with a pop* go on...#Sqh is salty he didn't get the godlike powers when he created the world they're in. Sqq tells him it isn't worth it#Being forced to see the past of an object with just a touch when you live in 5 million words of bad smut?? NO THANK YOU.#But both being espers AND from the same world they're still buddies (much to sqqs dismay).#Sqh is just barely outside sqqs telepathy range on an ding and lives in fear of him sensing him writing and catapulting himself#through the window at mach ten to beat him up.#Sqq every time he has to sit through a meeting with some corrupt official: thought crimes aren't real thought crimes don't count#Sqh: so how are you this bad at feelings. My guy you are an empath.#Sqq: shut up.#Lbh would definitely catch sqq doing something impossible or op and be so head over heels. He's like his father that way.#svsss#svsss au#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#scum villain's self saving system#scum villian self saving system#sqq#shang qinghua#sqh#svsss shen qingqiu
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1, 2, 3 for the choose violence ask!
(Any ship/fandom you feel like talking about)
ooooh thank you so much anon!! 🥰
I didn't expect to get any tbh!
I'll chose SVSSS for my answers then lkhgj
🔥 choose violence ask game 🔥
1. the character everyone gets wrong
Shen Jiu I believe ;;;
I don't even want to elaborate but... Before I got into SVSSS I was told it's the chillest fandom for MXTX's works, without drama and people being generally nice to each other... (I was naive and thought it was true because it's definitely a smaller fandom compared to MDZS and TGCF)
It's not. The amount of drama and discourse about Shen Jiu lfkjh I'm too old to care about drama and discourse in fandoms and I just plainly ignore it. That doesn't mean I haven't witnessed the violence existing around the way to interpret this character =")
I think I understand why that is but, people, please chill ;;;;
2. a compelling argument for why your fave would never top or bottom
To be fair I don't go there glhg I firmly believe that if you prefer "X" or "Y" to bottom or to top has more to do with how you perceive a character and a ship and your own personality, preferences and life experiences than anything else.
Which is why people can never agree on these and also why it is very much a question of personal preferences.
That being said (lol) Shen Qingqiu (Yuan) is a bottom and no one can convince me otherwise =')
I know many people want him to top LBH and I perfectly understand this because LBH would like that too, but I can't see this happening... I think SQQ would be way too self-conscious to take charge in bed, plus he's terrified to hurt LBH again. It would take immense work on himself, lots of communication, reassurance and to change the way he sees LBH to get there and I'm not saying it's impossible but even then I think he would hate it. He would only do it if LBH insists but I don't think LBH minds all that much whether he's a top or bottom with SQQ, as long as he's with him and feels loved. Of course all of these are personal HC.
Honestly that's the tragedy of my ships... many of them are made of bottom x bottom (service top) =")
3. screenshot or description of the worst take you’ve seen on tumblr
I have seen way too many bad takes on tumblr to think of one ='D
I always found it funny that many people claim to be fans of SVSSS or MDZS yet fail to understand they are the exact people MXTX is depicting as the villains of her stories even though the story clearly shows through their actions and the consequences of their actions the reasons why their behavior is not one to reproduce. The way the point of a story can fly over some people's heads is very flabbergasting sometimes. If I were MXTX I don't know if I'd want to laugh or cry lgkhj
#thank you anon for asking! ♥#and if you disagree don't take it to heart it's just thee way I feel about it#ask game
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i've been thinking a lot abt cumplane lately esp in regards to 1) shang qinghua's understandable elation at seeing the story he Actually wanted to write come to fruition vs. shen qingqiu's understandable "hey what the fuck" at having to deal with tragedy after tragedy & 2) what sqh said at the end abt yue qingyuan + nice being people the easiest to take advantage of, and then i start thinking abt how it ultimately comes down to sqq ending the main story finally seeing the others as People instead of Characters while sqh does. not (potentially barring mobei-jun im not there yet ;;; )
which i then think is fun to think abt when it comes to sqh bc frankly in the main story everything abt his life before transmigrating, including his own name, is erased and we only know him as like The Author Who Becomes SQH
#this is a mess and a half i know#i honestly could get more into it but i just dont feel like typing that much
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I posted 18,560 times in 2022
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My Top Posts in 2022:
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"What is the meaning of life if not love" um giving me a hundred dollars 🙄
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Again. What is happening in every country everywhere.
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#3
No but imagine being sqq. You dig yourself out of dirt, introduce yourself as a dick joke, get captured by your disciple who wants to kill you oh no he must be ace oH NO hes been gay for you the whole time, watch your corpse that he's definitely slept with literally, possibly figuratively, be tossed around in a game of hot potato, barely escape by being kidnapped by a snake guy who wants to bring you to hell, and only manage to evade him by going to a brothel and listening to a song about you and your disciple fucking. You have not come to terms with the fact you like your disciple back and are caught up in the tragedy he doesnt have 600 wives. This is only half a volume and happens over the span of a week.
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Shang Qinghua is like. He's God. He has the personality of a hamster. He's gay for his boss. His boss is an OC he created that, in courting God, has almost killed God. He can write 10k words in a day and it's shitty porn. His greatest fan is also his greatest anti. He died because he spilled ramen noodles and apparently has the luck of a hamster.
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My #1 post of 2022
Anyways the queer community isn't just what's on the internet. You'll find transgender people who call themselves transsexuals because that's what they called themselves 40 years ago, you'll find bisexual women who have been in the lesbian community since before bisexual women were forced to make their own community, you'll find gay men who call themselves femmes, you'll find trans women who were drag queens for decades before calling themselves trans women (and still are drag queens). The queer community is big and colourful and beautiful and doesn't have set boxes, and it never should.
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I have thought FAR too much about this particular topic (YQY is my soggy little babygirl after all), and though both options present a unique tragedy, I'm personally of the opinion that it's sadder if he knows SJ was replaced.
The deciding factor for me is closure. If Yue Qingyuan thinks that SY!SQQ is still SJ, he was able to help ensure SQQ's safety (even if he failed at times, SQQ is alive and well now), he confessed about Ling Xi Caves and got some, albeit unsatisfying, closure on the matter, and he got to see SQQ off to a happy life with Luo Binghe. Even if it aches for YQY to not have the depth of friendship he craves from SQQ, even if it hurts to be relegated to the sidelines of the other man's life, from YQY's perspective, SQQ is healthy, happy, and doesn't hate him. That's more than YQY had been able to wish for for years.
If YQY does know, that means that YQY lives with the constant knowledge that SJ was replaced somehow. There's no way he wouldn't feel responsible for not preventing whatever happened to the original SQQ. To YQY, SJ died alone, miserable, and hating YQY. Yue Qingyuan never gets closure. YQY drowns in guilt. YQY lives forever wondering if there something he could have done to make things turn out differently. I personally believe that YQY cares for SY!SQQ in his own right, not just because he's in SJ's body inheriting old ties, and I don't think he would hold the body-hijacking against SY especially once he's told or intuits that SY didn't do it on purpose, but that could hardly stop the crushing weight of his guilt every time he sees SQQ.
SQQ might as well be a walking corpse, for all that he serves as a reminder of someone long since lost. (Side note: a friend of mine's personal theory is that YQY realized at Maigu Ridge that SQQ was no longer SJ because of SQQ's deflection of YQY's confession. This has always torn my heart into little bite sized pieces because I can only imagine that YQY would feel like he was yet again far too late to save SJ.)
Daily poll: do you guys think it's sadder if yqy realized that sy!sqq isn't actually Shen Jiu as soon as the peak lords had their meeting, or if he still believes that sy!sqq is Shen Jiu and he's finally found happiness without him
#...now that I think of it I'm not sure I interpreted the question correctly lol#these are my thoughts on what what make YQY most miserable not what's most tragic from an outsider perspective#svsss#polls#meta#yue qingyuan#shen qingqiu#shen jiu#fish meta
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Fuck I feel like I've read a fic where HC forgot XL. IIRC it kinda DID show that HC doesn't know the meaning of his continued existence. Wish I could remember the title... (I do know I've seen one where lbh forgot SY but I can't remember that one either)
Though ironically in one of my WIPs (a SVSSS and TGCF crossover) has both HC AND LBH address their similarities and differences. And in it I point out that while everything was for XL, he didn't actually HAVE him most of the time! He built the city for XL, but he ran it his way. He had the gambling den and honestly he had no idea if XL would approve. That implies it was something he wanted. He does have a life outside of XL, even though XL is in the background, that's exactly where it is. The biggest difference is time. HC had time to get used to doing things on his own, developing relationships (and friendships though he'd never admit that) and so on. LBH did not have time or a constant comfort.
And I think that's the difference with LWJ too. He had more time and more to do. LBH was alone with his suffering for a long time. And he didn't have as long as the others, nor did he have any sort of constancy. (SQQ was horrible and mean...then suddenly he's nice for a few years and then he suddenly is horrible again with no apparent reason) HC didn't care how he was treated. LWJ knew why they were apart (resentment poisoning and then death). LBJ had no idea.
Both of those fics sound very fun! If you happen to find them again, please let me know!
LBH being an unwanted unloved kid who's hated by the people he wanted to live alongside and worshipped by demons he was never really interested in is really the whole tragedy of his character. SQQ slowly realizing this in the final chapters of SVSSS is what makes that finale so good
Good luck with your tgcf/svsss fic! It sounds really interesting!
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