#Spn 5x10

[drulalovescas]

Supernatural used to be hilarious actually because it established that the last night on earth was Dean's pick-up line and then they had Dean say it to Cas

[spnstillstudies]

92/327 (KO-FI♡)

S5E10, “Abandon All Hope”

[bloodydeanwinchester]

DESTIEL IN EVERY EPISODE → 5x10 abandon all hope...

i love it when dean gives the angel a silly little nickname.

[twistedshipper]

Jo Harvelle in SUPERNATURAL | 5.10 Abandon All Hope

[xofemeraldstars]

— happy valentine's day @ladymalchav 💕

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[virtu4l-di4ry]

the og found family

[captainchilly]

One Castiel Quote per Episode 19/136 → 5.10 “ABANDON ALL HOPE”

[spn-rewatch-ventzone]

Not the family photo! YOU CAN’T DO THIS TO ME!! 😭😭

[shirtlesssammy]

Castiel every day so often -- 19/139

Supernatural 5x10//Abandon All Hope...

[all-yourn]

♡AMERICAN TEENAGER♡

[littlebluejaydraws]

-I'll die first -I suppose you will

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[becauseofthebowties]

DEAN WINCHESTER IN EVERY EPISODE ↳ 5.10 - Abandon All Hope...

[fallenangelblade]

somehow forgot that the first intro we get to crowley is him saying “either kiss me or get absolutely fucked, you stupid homophobe” and then a crazy zoom in to castiel watching like “huh. I guess they do let men smooch each other on this network after all”

[lucifers-version]

Lucifer's Speeches to Sam and Castiel in Abandon All Hope

Both of these speeches are so good and are revealing in how Lucifer not only sees himself but his relationship to these characters. As well as how he's leaving out key information in his story depending on how it suits him.

First he speaks with Castiel after trapping him in holy fire.

This is Lucifer's take on fallen angels. Rebellion = falling. Which is absolute and how heaven sees it. He sees a part of his much younger self in Cas, the beginnings of falling.

The emphasis in this speech is rebellion. The fact that Lucifer rebelled and was cast out. It lacks specificity, because the reason for rebelling is relevant for both angels. It's similar but Cas in this moment wouldn't see it this way so he leaves things vague.

And he's right. After Lucifer is locked back up Castiel does become the fallen angel and heaven's main target for YEARS.

The final part of this interaction always gets me because yes, Lucifer is the repeated death of Cas. Most importantly in Swan Song but later as well. This is where that was foretold.

Then he speaks to Sam during the grave ritual scene.

This is the speech where we get some detail. Still omitting a few key points, but this is where we actually get the sense that this was deeply hurtful to Lucifer. This is where he speaks about how close he was with his family and how personal this betrayal was.

I think the biggest line that we really don't appreciate until much later in the show is "All because I was different" Lucifer was different, he was the one God trusted with the mark to seal Amara and it changed him, and after that surely God and the others did look at him differently. They viewed him as a lost cause. Also the "I had a mind of my own" is interesting because it does make me wonder if that meant his mind couldn't be reset or fixed by god or the other angels, did they try?

The rest is a specific appeal to Sam's emotions, pulling on words he knows Sam will react to like "Freak" which he got from Sam in 5 x 03 when Sam confesses to him that he knows he's a freak, and he saw how upset Sam was about that term, so here he applies it to himself to strengthen the connection.

But we see he's very intentional with his use of words, telling the same story to a slightly different tune, all to make sure he is the most relatable and sympathetic to whomever he's speaking to.

With Cas it's words like "rebel" "cast out" "public enemy" With Sam it's words like "freak" "begged" "of my own" "different" "monster"

Then I think another key thing here is "who I loved" first of all, directly implies to Sam that he is capable of love. Which for angels is very different than the human concept. Second, past tense in reference to Michael.

In both speeches he uses his past to relate to the audience and then takes it a step further to imply that similarities in their stories mean they will share the same fate. "I rebelled, and was damned. So if you rebel they will damn you too" "I was called a monster by my brother and he turned on me, well your brother has called you a monster, so how long before he turns on you?"

Anyway just a look at how Lucifer uses words to very quickly relate and manipulate his audience to his purposes.

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Abandon All Hope

Welcome to “If the Female Character Has Agency In Her Own Death, Does It Still Count as Fridging?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s5e10: Abandon All Hope.

Cas tracks down Crowley, and Sam and Dean then go to confront him, hoping to retrieve the Colt. Crowley hands over the Colt on his own, telling the boys he wants Luci dead because he suspects that Luci will kill all the demons. He tells them where to find Luci, and after an evening at Bobby’s, Sam, Dean, Cas, Jo, and Ellen head to Carthage, Missouri, to go devil hunting. Things go awry immediately—the town is deserted, except for dozens of Reapers, who Cas claims only gather in such numbers when a mass death is in the offing. Meg arrives, taunts her some Winchesters, summons some hell hounds, and sends the boys and co. running. Jo gets big maimed, and with Dean consulting with Bobby over a short-wave radio and barely keeping it together, Jo convinces everyone that they need to build a bomb in the hardware store they’re sheltering in and let her stay to blow it up so the others can escape the hell hounds and continue looking for Luci. We get kind of a great and painful death scene for Jo and Ellen, who can’t stand to leave Jo to die on her own, and Sam and Dean take off to find Luci. And find him, they do, and Sam shoots him. The end. Ha! YOU THOUGHT. The Colt can’t kill the devil, silly. Oops. Cas swoops the boys back to Bobby’s, and they all have A Moment over Jo and Ellen.

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

Mace:

CROWLEY YAAASSSS

Lor:

YAAAAAAAAAS

Lor:

I always forget he doesn't have a beard at the start

Mace:

he is so adorable

Mace:

AND THAT VOICE

Lor:

YES

Mace:

oooh peeping Cas, eh?

Lor:

awwww Cas hiding behind his pillar

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

Mace:

“its…going…down"

Mace:

HUGGY BEAR

Mace:

OMG

"it's going... down"

Lor:

HUGGY BEAR

Lor:

DEAN

Lor:

"took you long enough" I love him

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

um. Becky told them and she read it in Chuck's book. How's that rumors, Crowley, my love?

Mace:

“you’re functioning…morons"

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

Lor:

"yeah, you're functioning... morons" LOLOLOLOLOL

Mace:

CROWLEY just standing there when Sam tries to shoot him

Mace:

OMG HE’S AMAZING

YAAAAAAS

Mace:

“HOW ABOUT YOU DONT MISS OKAY?! MORONS!"

Mace:

I. LOVE. HIM.

Lor:

I love when he gets all angry

Mace:

YES

Lor:

omg Cas

Lor:

he's adorable

Mace:

YES

Mace:

and Ellen is an idiot for thinking she could drink him under the table

Lor:

"thank you again for your continued support"

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

“since when have we ever done anything smart"

Lor:

"since when have we ever done anything smart"

Lor:

YES

Dean. No.

Lor:

right?

Lor:

I mean, among other things, Cas is RIGHT THERE

Mace:

There’s a perfectly good angel just over there, idiot

Mace:

HAHAHAHA OMG

Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Mace:

But Jo. sleeping with a hot dude on your own terms is not losing self-respect.

Lor:

the look Dean gives Cas. you could try again, hon

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

YES

Lor:

you stick those flip phones out the car windows, boys, you stick em out good

Mace:

HAHAHA

“of course I have" CAAAAAAAS

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

well spotted, Ellen

Mace:

CREEPY AS HELL

Mace:

SNORK

Lor:

YES

Lor:

she annoys me SO HARD

Mace:

AGREED

Mace:

this is what you get when dudebros try to write a strong woman character

Lor:

YYYEP

Lor:

"I came alone" aw Cas

Lor:

"I'm told you came here in an automobile"

Lor:

"slow. confining" hAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

“what a peculiar thing you are” Gay, Lucifer. The proper term is gay.

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

Lor:

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES

Mace:

Oh sweet Dean. That scared face

Lor:

ooooof Dean's face when he realizes it's hellhounds

Lor:

YES

Mace:

YES

Lor:

hellhounds on your trail, boy

Mace:

oh. look out, jo.

Lor:

oh. no. jo. do not get ripped to shreds. oh no

Mace:

should have slept with the hottie hunter when you had the chance, girl.

Lor:

LOL

the best part of this is how it affects Dean and as much I don't care about Jo I HATE that they killed off a female character for the effect it would have on one of the heroes and IT WORKS

Mace:

yeah

Lor:

god this scene bt Bobby and Dean

Mace:

YES

Mace:

“the devil’s in the details, Dean"

Lor:

YES

Lor:

"I've died several times myself"

Mace:

HA

Mace:

poor Dean. he is FRAYED

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

he is so close to falling apart

Mace:

HE IS

Lor:

I could hold him together

Mace:

uhhuh. such a sacrificer, you

Lor:

that's me. always ready to take one for the team

Mace:

indeed

Lor:

god his FACE

Mace:

YES

Lor:

when he gets out of this situation, I will be speaking to him about leaving the “rather” out of the phrase "sooner rather than later"

Mace:

HA

Mace:

DEAN. Her innards are outards. She doesn’t feel like macking right now.

Lor:

RIGHT?

I wish they had left it at the forehead kiss

Mace:

right?!

Mace:

I’m not an Ellen fan either, but I do like the dynamic here of not leaving her daughter but choosing to die with her

Lor:

also that he hadn't tried to sleep with her earlier. it feels out of character (unless he was just looking for comfort and that's the only way he knows how to try to find any. but still. it's Jo. he's not into her)

Lor:

YES

Mace:

(yep)

Mace:

(I’m convinced that these occasional eps in which Dean acts un-Dean-like are all written by the same person)

Lor:

(yeah I wouldn't be surprised)

Mace:

UGH. the fact that Ellen has to experience Jo dying first. GAH

Lor:

RIGHT?

and that it was her refusal to leave her that made this work. bc Jo died before she could have set the bomb off

Mace:

YES

Mace:

they both can’t really believe it would be that easy and you can see it in their faces

Lor:

I love the faces like even they don't believe at first that it was that easy

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

Mace:

YES

Lor:

ooof Sammy

Mace:

yeah

Mace:

huh. a little Dark Side dialogue there, guys

Lor:

ha!

Mace:

cloud-hopping pansies is such a good insult

Lor:

YES

he just stone-cold throws her over the holy fire and uses her as a bridge daaaaang

Mace:

he can be such a badass when he needs

Lor:

YAAAAAAS

Mace:

why take the commemorative photo if you’re just gonna burn it?

Lor:

i was JUST thinking that!

Mace:

such drama queens

Lor:

...maybe he's afraid their spriits could latch onto it and not move on?

Mace:

huh

Mace:

I’m sticking with drama queens as the reason

Lor:

or maybe someone just thought it was be a cool shot and they needed a bit of business bc otherwise SDandB and just standing there like dopes

Lor:

YES

Mace:

snork

 

[after the episode ended:]

Lor:

so I was just grabbing this convo to dump in a word doc for the post and I was looking at some of our reactions to Cas and Luci talking to each other and I had a thought (I feel like this ought to be obvious but). The behaviours in Cas that read like autism are CAS behaviours, not angel behaviours. none of the other angels are like him. he's the only socially awkward bean who doesn't get sarcasm and takes things literally. that's HIM

Mace:

Oooh, yep, that’s right

[cha0ticlesbian]

CASTIEL’S FACE AFTER ANNA KISSES DEAN AHHG