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krazieka2 · 2 months
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Here's a big old Fire Emblem Search & Find I did for the FE3H Masquerade Zine! Find the Golden Deer, but see if you can't find the rest of the students as well! For the ultimate challenge, see if you can't name every character! (Disclaimer two characters are NPCs with no names)
#double bonus can you identify the 2 or 3 fe3h characters that AREN'T in the scene?#i say 2 or 3 but i probably forgot more :( im using you people to check my work#fe3h#carrying over my posts from twitter choo chooooo#fireemblem#im not going to tag everyone but you're welcome too! good luck!!#instead let me tell you about the mini narratives i came up with while drawing this#soren is waiting for Ike to get back with food#seteth just noticed flayn dancing WITH A BOY from afar#rhea was supposed to sing but got superseded (she's okay with it actually)#monica and ferdinand are trying to start a dance off with edelgard and hubert (its not working)#Ashe stepped on Annette's toes and is freaking out. Lorenz is trying to give pointers but it's only sort of helping#balthus absolutely stole some of the betting pool money. i think i forgot to ink the coins falling out of his hands! dang#metody and shahid are going to become great friends and have a wirlwind romance before one betrays the other in a cutthroat fashion#Lysithea left a single cake slice on the table and Miklan is just happy to have gotten his before she showed up#ike and leopold had a flex off#Gilbert is stuck between young lovers this isn't a narrative i just think it's funny#oh and of course Sylvain managing to piss off Sera Charlotte and Maribelle while Felix ignored him and Ingrid looks on#that's supposed to be roy not eliwood btw i forgot to color his headband so it's basically eliwood#that's all i can think of rn but if you played#thank you!!! i hope you had fun#this was SO much fun to make thank you to the mods for facilitating me#haha this post has been up for 20 minutes and people are already pointing out so many characters I forgot. ur keeping me humble
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it-lives-202289 · 2 years
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The morning after Seidr's sudden offer, several heroes who witnessed Maria running away from her tent discuss possible reasons why she bolted.
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ramblingaro · 2 years
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Iconic that the wave 2 dlc emblems are: Ike’s boyfriend, Roy’s queer uncle who (probably) dated his father, and the literal embodiment of fire emblems Hate Women™️ era
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theofficersacademy · 1 year
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Due to some irl business and recovering from health stuff, I would like to put Zelkov, Roy, and Soren on *hiatus* for this month, thank you!
Zelkov, Roy, and Soren are on hiatus until September 8th! Please message the Masterlist once you return. Thank you!
- Mod Bren
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reythemandalor · 1 year
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Caine Soren is so Kendall Roy coded
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townpostin · 19 days
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Banna Gupta Criticizes BJP for Manipulating Champai Soren
Calls out BJP for treating former CM Champai Soren as a ‘caged tiger’ under their control. Jharkhand Minister Banna Gupta has once again voiced sharp criticism against former Chief Minister Champai Soren, accusing the BJP of manipulating him. JAMSHEDPUR – Jharkhand Minister Banna Gupta has sharply criticized former Chief Minister Champai Soren, alleging that the BJP is controlling him like a…
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coderiderr · 2 years
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he was 12th cmon male shez cyl winner next year
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kilfeur · 2 months
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J'aime bien la dynamique de Soren et Corvus dans cette épisode, leur permettant de plaisanter un peu tout en étant sérieux. Comme le fait que Soren explique qu'il croyait en Zubeia quand il disait que cette blessure n'était rien pour elle. Et que le fait que Soren s'inquiète pour Zubeia est parce que c'est la mère de Zym. Mais ça lui fait penser à la sienne et Corvus lui dit que Zym l'a lui. Ok, je ship maintenant ! Et les retrouvailles de Zubeia et Zym, c'est rassurant de la voir en vie mais Zubeia sera la grande absente de cette saison vu que ses blessures prendront du temps à guérir. Du coup Zym est le roi temporaire des dragons non ?
I like Soren and Corvus' dynamic in this episode, allowing them to joke around a bit while still being serious. Like Soren explaining that he believed in Zubeia when he said that this wound was nothing to her. And that Soren's concern for Zubeia is because she's Zym's mother. But it makes him think of his own, and Corvus tells him that Zym has him. Okay, I ship now! And the reunion of Zubeia and Zym, it's reassuring to see her alive but Zubeia will be the big absentee of this season as her wounds will take time to heal. So Zym is the temporary king of dragons, isn't he?
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fiery-emblems · 8 months
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Leif, Marth, Claude, Byleth, Roy, and Robin are all shorter than Soren...woah....
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jaredxenoengage · 3 months
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Have you ever noticed that Alear and the Four Royals acts as a Five Man Band? The story may not show that well, but their gameplay, nations and represented Emblems demonstrate that they are this trope perfectly. Veyle acts as the Sixth Ranger (actually 11th Hour Ranger). They best represent this trope as well because Alear, the Royals and Veyle are the only playable characters that can’t die on Classic Mode (oh and Vander too, but he’s just a mentor kind of guy).
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The Five Man Band is among one my favorite tropes in media. Why? IDK why, it just is. I used to be a Power Rangers fan, five is usually among the highest these teams get to. In which case it becomes a Three plus two scenario where a Power Trio becomes a Five Man Band (Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, and Jungle Fury come to mind).
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I bring up this trope to talk about Fire Emblem Engage specifically, Alear, and the Four Primary Royals fit this trope. And it’s not just in team composition, IMO, the Emblems they are best known for (specifically in the Prologue cutscene) best give idea on why they fit the role in the team.
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Alear the The Hero/Leader of the team; because obviously they are the Fire Emblem Lord, they are the Divine Dragon: the only one who can summon the Emblems who can save the world from the Fell Dragon. And just like any other Fire Emblem Lord in the franchise, if they are defeated, it’s a game over. Pretty typical Fire Emblem knowledge.
Alear’s most common Emblem is Marth. Marth is the first ever Fire Emblem Lord in the franchise, the idealistic leader that his loved ones trust and follows. Marth is the first of many sword wielding heroes in the franchise. Swords are a very common weapon type for heroes (Micaiah is the only Emblem in the main game that canonically never uses swords).
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Alfred is the Lancer. Who usually acts a foil to the Hero/Leader, usually is their first/best friend/companion, and/or is the first to question any decision the leader/hero makes. Not every character of the archetype has to be a rival or a jerk (or in most cases both), Alfred is one of those examples. Alfred is the first Royal to join. Firene has the closest ties with Lumera, and Alfred appears in more cutscenes than any other Royal in the game. (Double points for having Lances as his primary weapon type).
The Emblem he uses in the Prologue is Lucina. Lucina is the not the central protagonist of Awakening, Chrom is. Even still, Lucina is a character who acts as an emotional foil to Chrom. More importantly, Lucina is the descendant of Marth, who happens to be Alear’s most associated Emblem.
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Diamant is the big guy/muscle of Alear’s team. Brodia is the Kingdom of Might after all. Diamant is the most physically imposing with his main stats being his HP, Strength and Defense. Diamant is also the tallest and oldest member of the team (age being 25, Alfred is 21, Ivy is 20, Timerra is 18 and Alear is physically 17).
Diamant’s national Emblem is Roy, who gives Sword Power as an inheritance skill that allows Diamant to hit harder with a sword, but at the cost of avoid. Rise Above (Emblem Roy’s Engage skill) increases his level and stats along with them. Ironically, Roy was 15 years old in his games, Diamant is the oldest Royal, yet Roy is one of the younger FE lords next to Leif.
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Next is Ivy, befitting of Elusia’s title of the Kingdom of Knowledge, she is the smart girl. Ivy has gone to school and was at the top of her class. (Studying is also one of her hobbies and likes items regarding them) Ivy is the most level headed of the Royals. Ivy is the only member of this main team that uses magic, and her ability to fly and heal is invaluable in a Fire Emblem game.
Ivy is associated with two Emblems rather than one. Lyn (the Emblem entrusted to Elusia) has the ability to summon doubles that can be used to distract the enemy. While Leif is an Emblem that switches between your current weapons it best suit the situation (often for the worst, unfortunately). It’s also worth noting that Soren is the DLC Emblem entrusted to Alt. Elusia. Soren is the Tactician of the Greil Mercenaries.
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Finally, Timerra acts the emotional core to the team as the heart. Despite being far more politically savvy than what her peppy personality might suggest, she still is a genuine mood-maker in her supports where she attempts to get Ivy to open up and give perspective to Diamant on their ways of leading their countries. Her Queendom represents Freedom and is a very accepting person.
Her Emblem is Ike, and even if people mainly see him as a snarky guy, Ike is a very compassionate person. I mean, Ike would have to be a nice guy if he is the only person Soren is unfailingly kind to and is devoted to above everyone else. Ike’s Resolve (pun intended) is the thing that keeps the Greil Mercenaries from falling apart after his father’s death. Gameplay wise, Timerra with Ike act as a Critical Hit fighter with Wrath and Sandstorm. It takes a lot of effort and a bit of luck to make the most of her.
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And finally, Veyle rounds out the team as the Sixth Ranger (doubles as 11th Hour Ranger, she is the last recruit in the main game). Sixth Rangers often comes joining in the team after a rivalry dispute and or brainwashing (Tommy Oliver (trope namer) and Zuko from Avatar comes to mind), Veyle is no exception. Veyle is the only other Non DLC Dragon units in the game. Most Sixth Rangers often (like the Red Ranger) have a power no other Ranger does.
Veyle doesn’t have a designated Emblem outside of Marth (who her evil self used, and she has boss dialogue with Emblem Marth in his Paralogue), but I consider Emblem Alear to be the closest thing Veyle will get to a designated Emblem. Her evil self also wears Alear’s Ring in the bad ending.
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The major difference between Alear’s team, and the Four Hounds led by EVeyle is that the Hounds were already formed long before the story began. Alear and the Four Royals don’t officially form until more than halfway through Engage’s main story chapters. And yet these guys became a real team where the Hounds failed.
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emblemxeno · 1 month
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Fire Emblem Heroes-CYL Bonus Quotes + My Ideas for the Ones Who Don't Have Them
Choose Your Legends Winners have bonus quotes when they are on a team you enter a map with and playing with English voices (only the English voices have these quotes actually)! These are popular or funny quotes from their home games or other appearances, like Smash Bros.
CYL1
"The future is *not* written."-Lucina's victory quote in Smash Bros.
"Roy's our boy!"-Roy's crowd chant in Smash Bros.
"I'll be your peerless warrior!"-Lyn's promising words to Mark at the end of FE7 prologue
"You... like Ike?"-Ike's crowd chant in Smash Bros.
CYL2
"Take me with you!"-Veronica... I think she says this once to Bruno, but I can't find where specificailly
"Together, we will always stay."-Ephraim's A Support with Eirika
"Nothing will ever come between us."-Celica to Alm as kids during Echoes' opening movie
"I just gotta be me, y'know?"-Hector's A Support with Lyn
CYL5
"Let's go rescue my brother!"-Eirika to her troops at the end of FE8 chapter 6
"Caeda, what's wrong!?"-Marth to Caeda in FE1 chapter 1
"Please forgive me, Goddess..."-A constant sentiment of Marianne's character, and said verbatim once she slays her first enemy in FE16 chapter 2
"There was something to report, wasn't there?"-A staple of Gatekeeper's dialogue, said verbatim in FE16 chapter 5
CYL6
"I am *no* chatterbox."-Reference to Hapi's nickname for Byleth
"There is more than one truth."-What Sigurd's ghost says to Seliph, after Seliph lands the finishing blow on Arvis and waits next to the beach in FE4 chapter 10
"My... autograph?"-Tiki's C Support with Anna
"You are yourself."-Chrom's consoling words to Robin in FE13 chapter 13
CYL8
"Now... what was so damned important?"-F!Robin's B Support with Chrom
"You must be joking."-Felix during his Goddess Tower event in FE16 chapter 9
"One day... I'll be left alone."-A reference to the correct response to one of her advice box questions during FE16's war phase (this one I'm not 100% on, if anyone has corrections let me know in the replies)
"I'm going to kill you, too."-Alfonse to Letizia during Book 6, Chapter 5, Part 5: I Killed Him
However, the winners of CYL3 (2019), CYL4 (2020), and CYL7 (2023) don't have these bonus quotes. The reasons, if the directors or higher ups of the localization team forgot or they weren't too high priority for the time, are unknown. So I thought I'd take a stab at what I think they'd be for those winners.
CYL3
"I'll have their heads on a platter!"-Camilla at the of FE14 chapter 3
"I'm proud I took your hand."-Eliwood's A support with Hector
"I have finally found my purpose."-Micaiah at the end of FE10 chapter 3-F
"This isn't where things end for us!"-Alm to Celica before returning to face Duma together in Echoes Act 5
CYL4
"You think I'm special?"-Lysithea's A support with Claude
"We'll scale the walls between us!"-Claude during Verdant Wind's final cutscene
"Take your first step!"-Edelgard to the Black Eagles after escaping the Holy Tomb
"I am finally home again..."-Dimitri at the end of Azure Moon chapter 18
CYL7
"Remember where you came from."-Mikoto to Corrin at the end of FE14 Revelation chapter 24
"My only wish was to see you again."-Soren to Ike in their base conversation in FE10 Endgame 5
"A gift of revelation..."-Seiðr to the Summoner, Book 7, Chapter 5, Part 1: Goddess's Descent
"Get eaten by a bear. I don't give a damn."-M!Robin's B support with Aversa
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Who has the worst Mommy AND Daddy Issues?
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Full list of matchups below the cut! If you’d like to submit a better image for any of these characters or anything, feel free!
Propaganda posts will be coming throughout the next few days, then the rounds will start! You’re also welcome to submit any additional propaganda for any of the characters above.
Side A
Shallan Davar (Stormlight Archive) VS Kim Dokja (Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint)
Adaine & Aelwyn Abernant (Dimension 20: Fantasy High) VS Thalia Grace (Percy Jackson)
Goro Akechi (Persona 5) VS Shoto Todoroki (My Hero Academia)
Keefe Sencen (Keeper of the Lost Cities) VS Lyra Silvertongue (His Dark Materials)
Dean Winchester (Supernatural) VS Dennis & Dee Reynolds (It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia)
Mizuki Date (AI: The Somnium Files) VS Akito Sohma (Fruits Basket)
Oedipus (Oedipus Rex) VS Soren & Claudia (The Dragon Prince)
Stacey (Kikai Sentai Zenkaiger) VS Heinz Doofenshmirtz (Phineas & Ferb)
Side B
Zuko & Azula (Avatar: The Last Airbender) VS JuanaFlippa (QSMP)
Agent Carolina (Red VS Blue) VS Arven (Pokémon Scarlet & Violet)
Artemis Fowl II (Artemis Fowl) VS Neil Josten (All For The Game)
Gideon Nav & Harrowhark Nonagesimus (The Locked Tomb) VS Charles Eyler (Hello Charlotte)
You (Real Life) VS Luo Binghe (The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System)
Red Son (LEGO Monkie Kid) VS Cassandra Cain (DC Comics)
Adrien Agreste (Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir) VS Yang Xiao Long (RWBY)
Shiv Roy (Succession) VS Jiang Cheng & Jiang Yanli (Mo Dao Zu Shi)
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madou-dilou · 2 months
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Harrow et Viren : analyse
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Viren, depuis sa résurrection en saison 4, est mis en parallèle avec Harrow.
"Beaucoup de temps a passé. Le royaume est prospère. Mes garçons grandissent sereinement. Nous vivons en paix. Il vaut mieux peut-être se concentrer sur le bonheur que nous avons" (Harrow).
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"Toute ma vie, j'ai couru après ce que je n'avais pas. Maintenant que je suis ici et qu'il ne me reste que trente jours à vivre, ai-je vraiment envie de passer ce temps à poursuivre cette quête ? Peut-être est-il temps pour moi de profiter de ce que j'ai, un mois entier avec ma fille. D'accepter que je suis simplement qui je suis. Et quand le moment sera venu, je serai en paix, et il sera temps de me laisser partir." (Viren)
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Tous deux réévaluent leurs vies, remettent en question les crimes qu'ils ont laissé dans leur sillage. Ils ont le sentiment d'avoir échappé à la justice. Leurs proches les encouragent à continuer de vivre, bien sûr, mais ils en sont venus à la conclusion que si leur vie a laissé une telle traînée de sang, la prolonger ne ferait qu'en répandre encore davantage.
Qu'à ce stade, la seule chose juste qu'ils pouvaient faire pour le monde, c'était de le quitter.
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Pour leur proches, qui se sont décarcassés pour eux, ce revirement est incompréhensible et même... franchement ingrat. "Vous -vous faites preuve d'obstination et... d'ingratitude !"/"Non. Non, papa, tu -tu n'as pas le droit. C'est moi qui t'ai sauvé ! Tu me dois la vie ! Il faut que tu restes !"
Pour citer Guenièvre, "vous vous êtes ouvert les veines dans un bain que j'avais moi-même fait couler."
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Surtout qu'Harrow et Viren sont tous deux incapables de formuler leur point de vue plus clairement que "Non, évidemment, vous ne comprenez pas. Veuillez me laisser" et "je dois trouver le chemin de la vérité et de la liberté."
Regardez-moi ça. Deux rois pris dans des vendettas de lignage, poussés par leurs âmes damnées à prolonger une existence dont ils ne veulent plus, même au prix de deux être créés pour être des sacrifices : un soldat, payé pour ça (contrairement au Haut Mage, hein Harrow), et... cet homonculus.
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D'ailleurs, tous deux renoncent ainsi à la magie noire en, comme le dit Harrow, "appelant un chat un chat" pour la première fois; et non plus "une solution créative pour régler ça" comme dit Viren.
Et tout comme Harrow avait écrit une lettre à son fils Callum pour le libérer des torts de la génération précédente, Viren tente de faire la même chose.
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A Callum, Harrow a tenté d'expliquer que le passé, que l'on doit cependant chercher à comprendre, ne devrait pas définir l'avenir; que sa mort doit clôturer le cycle de vengeance qu'il a initié par l'assassinat du Titan et pour lequel il assume toute la responsabilité; et que ses fils doivent assurer une nouvelle ère de paix.
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Il ne s'est cependant pas avisé de nommer officiellement un régent (Viren, Amaya ou Opélie), ce qui oblige le pauvre Ezran à assumer un rôle pour lequel, à huit ans, il n'est évidemment absolument pas préparé, et met du même coup son royaume dans le caca.
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A Soren, Viren fait moins de belles phrases. Il est très litéral. Il veut que Soren le juge, mais qu'il ait pour cela tous les éléments nécessaires; que Soren comprenne pourquoi il a commis toutes ces erreurs. Viren dit à Soren que toute la souffrance qu'il a ressentie n'a jamais été de sa faute, mais de la sienne à lui (c'est là qu'on regrette que le français n'ait pas de système de cas/déclinaisons).
C'est Viren et Viren seul qui a choisi de devenir un monstre en violentant Kppar puis Lissa, provoquant ainsi son départ, puis en le faisant payer à Soren tout au long de son enfance. La lettre avait pour but de libérer Soren de toute culpabilité. Parce que, quand tu te fais battre froid par ton père pendant toute ton enfance, tu te dis confusément que c'est de ta faute. Et de toutes façons, c'est bien connu, tous les enfants d'un divorce pensent que c'est de leur faute.
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Le problème, c'est que lire la vérité pourrait tout aussi bien faire sentir Soren encore plus mal. Parce que cette lettre confirme que c'est bien pour le sauver lui que Viren a détruit la famille, même si c'était un choix que Viren a fait. Si on se fie à Puzzle House, Soren se souvient qu'il était malade, que son grand-père a disparu, que son père l'a sauvé et que sa mère est partie, mais il n'a jamais pu faire le rapprochement entre tous ces événements.
Cette lettre veut dire que le simple fait que Soren soit vivant a bel et bien été la première fissure qui a fini par faire s'écrouler toute la maison.
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Viren a donc choisi de brûler la lettre, espérant épargner à son fils un tel fardeau.
Les morts de Viren et d'Harrow ont toutes les deux quelque chose du suicide, et pas seulement par les lettres qu'ils laissent derrière eux.
Vous vous souvenez de mon post comparant leurs actes à la citation de Kaamelott ? "Qu'est-ce que c'est quelqu'un qui souffre et qui fait couler son sang par terre pour que tout le monde soit coupable ? Tous les suicidés sont le Christ. Toutes les baignoires sont le Graal."
En résumé, j'essayais d'expliquer que leur masochisme faisait aussi souffrir les autres.
Harrow prétend se considérer comme un serviteur, et il est certainement sincère. Il est humble et a un grand sens de l'honneur, n'hésitant pas à défier certaines traditions -en partageant son portrait officiel avec Viren, et à mettre en jeu sa propre vie. Mais quand, par exemple, il ne trouve rien de mieux à faire que de priver son peuple de nourriture simplement pour honorer une promesse, ça fait doucement rigoler. Lui-même, assez hors-sol pour ne pas connaître l'état de son royaume, n'aura certainement pas à voir sa propre famille mourir de faim. Mais il semble considérer qu'en sacrifiant le royaume, c'est lui-même qu'il sacrifie. Et lors de sa mort héroïque, qu'en se sacrifiant, il sauvera le royaume au lieu de le plonger dans le chaos.
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Viren, très probablement en partie à cause de ses origines sociales qu'on ne cesse de lui rappeler (et d'une enfance pas très marrante, vu que le mec s'insulte devant le miroir jusqu'à craquer en pleurs et dévalorise sans cesse son fils) est hanté par le sentiment d'être inférieur aux autres. D'être inutile. Il a un besoin maladif de gratitude. Dans l'espoir de compter, de compter à leurs yeux, il a passé des années à s'auto-détruire par la magie noire, à se mettre constamment en danger, à se ruiner la santé, à payer les pots cassés du roi, puis à laisser Aaravos exploiter son corps de façon de plus en plus abjecte, bref, à ne se voir que comme un moyen en vue d'une fin.
Ce sentiment n'est d'ailleurs pas sans fondement : non seulement le roi est effectivement assez incompétent pour n'avoir pas la moindre idée de l'état des ressources de son royaume, mais en plus, là où n'importe quel épéiste arborerait avec fierté les cicatrices de son art, Viren est forcé de dissimuler son visage tuméfié -c'est même en partie la raison pour laquelle sa femme l'a quitté.
Le problème, c'est qu'il a cru que ça lui donnait le droit d'instrumentaliser les autres : sa femme, Sarai, Harrow, les princes, Soren, et quelques milliers d'autres, j'en oublie sûrement. Que puisque sacrifier les autres lui était difficile, cela faisait de lui le héros.
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Viren souffre (comme Lancelot dans Kaamelott, ainsi parla Sy Play qui a inspiré genre 99% de la présente analyse) d'un énorme syndrome du sauveur : ne pouvant exister que par la gratitude des autres, il se met à prendre en charge tous leurs problèmes, même si on ne lui a rien demandé, et quitte à en crééer d'autres au passage. Comme il est compétent, vif, pragmatique, réaliste et ingénieux, et littéralement magique, il finit par se rendre absolument indispensable. Personne d'autre que lui ne pouvait sauver deux royaumes d'une famine. D'autant plus Sarai, l'épouse d'Harrow, s'est sacrifiée pour le sauver parce qu'il était un mage. Cette culpabilité du survivant peut avoir aggravé ce problème.
Sa mentalité, qu'il a résumée en un "ressaisis-toi, bon sang," à un Terry traumatisé, a aussi probablement joué un rôle dans la dégradation de sa relation avec Harrow. Après la mort de Sarai, Viren a probablement pensé qu'il devait être le pillier inamovible et inébranlable sur lequel Harrow devait pouvoir se reposer. Que s'il montrait le moindre doute, la moindre faiblesse, Harrow, et avec lui, le royaume, s'effondrerait. Alors que si Viren avait été moins constipé, Harrow se serait sans doute senti moins seul, et aurait été moins susceptible de mettre fin à ses jours comme il l'a fait.
Viren est le cerveau du coeur. Il fournit un garde-fou à Harrow, dont le sens de la justice l'aveugle. Harrow a, après tout, bel et bien choisi le Bandeau dans son rêve, bandeau qui devrait le pousser à imaginer un système visant à protéger tout le monde de la même façon. Un idéal, irréaliste et inconsidéré. Viren est plutôt la Balance, à mon avis : il compare les coûts de ses actions aux conséquences positives qui en découleront.
Là, il est temps que je parle du Triangle dramatique, théorisé par le psychiatre Stephen Karpman dans son article Fairy Tales and script drama analysis. Il applique d'abord ce schéma aux contes de fées : Le Joueur de Flûte de Hamelin sauve les villageois, victimes des rats qui les persécutent; mais au lieu de le remercier, les villageois lui jettent des pierres et le bannissent sans payer leur dû; ce qui pousse le joueur de flûte à se venger, devenant persécuteur, en faisant disparaître tous les enfants du village.
Mais ce Triangle, comme Karpman l'explique, est aussi un jeu psychologique inconscient, un schéma relationnel typique entre victime, persécuteur et sauveur qui ne peut être appliqué à une situation d'urgence. Il n'est pas nécessaire que les trois instances du triangle soient présentes, mais il suffit souvent à une personne de jouer le jeu pour que les autres embrayent. Stephen Karpman ajoute que plus les rôles s'inversent au cours d'une seule scène, plus elle est intense en émotions et en conflit.
La victime est isolée, passive et est incapable de prendre des décisions pour résoudre ses problèmes. Le persécuteur la rabaisse, minimise ses souffrances et se moque d'elle en espérant la faire réagir. Le sauveur prend sa défense, se sent obligé de résoudre les problèmes de la victime à sa place même si elle ne lui a rien demandé, ce qui est très valorisant pour lui mais maintient la victime dans un état de dépendance.
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Le problème, vous le sentez venir, c'est qu'au fil des années, Harrow est devenu complètement dépendant de Viren pour mettre ses trop grandes idées en pratique, et donc des crimes "nécessaires" que Viren alignait comme des perles sur un collier. Non seulement c'est sale, mais c'est en plus infantilisant. Viren agit constemment en sauveur, ce qui place Harrow dans un rôle de victime, peu habitué à remettre en cause les décisions de Viren même quand il se trompe.
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Harrow n'en pouvait plus.
Il a eu tellement assez de sa dépendance à l'égard de Viren qu'il en a conclu que la seule façon de s'en débarrasser, c'était de mourir.
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Harrow aurait pu se cacher avec les princes, ou virer toute sa garde et assumer seul les conséquences de ses actes, mais il juste a saisi l'occasion de vendre chèrement sa peau et de mourir en héros. J'irais même jusqu'à dire que pour Harrow, sa propre mort servait trois objectifs :
Retrouver Sarai sans qui sa vie n'a plus de sens
Recevoir enfin son juste châtiment et mettre fin à son propre sentiment de culpabilité ainsi qu'au cycle de vengeance
Faire en sorte que Viren se sente enfin coupable de quelque chose, fut-ce son suicide.
Bref, d'enfin reprendre le contrôle en plaçant Viren dans un rôle de victime, tout en devenant le persécuteur.
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Viren, tout au long de la saison 1 et 2, payant les pots cassés d'Harrow et voyant inconsciemment une occasion de prouver sa valeur, a tenté de se placer en sauveur des royaumes humains faisant alors face à une situation de crise : il s'est retrouvé rejeté, complètement isolé, condamné à mort pour trahison et en totale incapacité de résoudre ses problèmes. Bref, une victime. Et qui c'est qui le "sauve" ?
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Aaravos, en se présentant comme le "serviteur" de Viren, flatte son ego et lui désigne des persécuteurs à blâmer. Cependant, Viren n'est pas un imbécile : il est conscient d'être manipulé. Il sait qu'Aaravos lui dissimule délibérément de nombreuses informations. Mais il s'y jette de son plein gré. Il est au pied du mur : pour ce qu'il en sait, il n'a fait que prendre une série de décisions inévitables, qui lui ont fermé portes après portes, le plongeant de plus en plus dans les ténèbres. Jusqu'à ce que le couteau devienne la frontière entre deux mondes, le sépare de l'unique source de lumière, blafarde, venant de "pire que la mort" : Aaravos.
Oui, c'est fait pour avoir toutes les allures du suicide.
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Viren (croyant bien faire) a tiré le pire d'Harrow, tout comme Aaravos (voulant foutre la merde) a tiré le pire de Viren.
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Autrement dit, comme pour Harrow, la seule façon pour Viren de se débarasser de son âme damnée, c'était de mourir.
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Et quant à la troisième mort de Viren dans la sixième saison, héroïque s'il en est (sur le balcon même où il a regardé son poignet dans la saison 2), ce n'est pas non plus un hasard s'il répète les derniers mots que lui a addressés Harrow afin de l'humilier : "Je suis un serviteur."
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Ce terme porte une ambivalence : la noblesse de l'abnégation et l'humiliation de la soumission.
Harrow avait beau se considérer lui-même comme un serviteur du royaume et promouvoir l'égalité dans ses réformes et ses symboles, il en a fini par en avoir marre. Il sacrifie certes sa propre vie pour mettre fin au cycle de la vengeance, mais comme il ne se donne absolument pas la peine de préparer sa succession, ne serait-ce qu'en s'assurant que les princes sont en sécurité, le résultat une catastrophe. Il consacre également les dernières minutes de son existence à se montrer d'une cruauté parfaitement injustifiée envers Viren. Cependant, lors de sa seule interaction avec son héritier de la série qui ne soit pas une analepse, Harrow ne dit rien d'alarmant à Ezran. Harrow se prépare à enfin affronter la justice, il se prépare à mourir et fait tout pour qu'Ezran ait, pour dernier souvenir de son père, une conversation anodine. Afin d'éviter qu'Ezran croie qu'il l'a abandonné. Il est trop tard pour lui, mais il veut que ses enfants écrivent une nouvelle histoire, où les conflits millénaires laissent enfin place à la paix.
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Viren, blessé qu'Harrow le rabaisse plus bas que terre, prenne son abnégation pour de l'arrogance et le laisse encore une fois payer les pots cassés de ses décisions, a fait de ce terme la justification pour ses crimes... confondant, dans ses bonnes intentions, "servir le peuple" et "se servir du peuple". Viren était tout à fait prêt à se sacrifier pour sauver Harrow dans la saison 1, mais Harrow, décidé à reprendre le contrôle, ne l'a même pas écouté; et Viren s'est immédiatement rétracté quand Harrow a refusé de le reconnaître en égal. Bien qu'on ne peut plus sincère, le sacrifice de sa vie a alors été rejeté par le scénario car fait sans humilité.
(ou alors, Harrow a immédiatement compris ce que Viren comptait faire et l'a pourri pour l'en dissuader)
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Aujourd'hui, Viren, hanté par la vision du sang d'Harrow par terre, choisit donc de se sacrifier, sauvant ainsi la population de Katolis face au feu des dragons, de se sacrifier lui seul et personne d'autre; mais honni, haï et incompris. Le portrait officiel de lui et d'Harrow, symbolisant ses nobles actions et le bien qu'ils ont pu faire, a brûlé dans l'incendie du château. Aux yeux de l'histoire, Viren restera le traître. Le Méchant Conseiller, le Jafar, le Richard III, le Iago, le Scar.
Personne ne verra son sang qu'il fait couler sur le sol de la chambre d'Harrow.
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"En tant que roi", dit Harrow, "j'ai essayé d'être altruiste. Mais en tant que père, j'ai un souhait très égoïste." Et il est mort de façon égoïste.
Viren a passé sa vie à être égoiste sans même le savoir. Pour la première fois, il est altruiste. Il meurt non en habits de cour mais en haillons, non en héros porté aux nues mais en traître. Soren ne saura jamais ce qu'il a fait pour lui enfant, il ne veut pas que sa mort le hante.
Servants of the realm indeed.
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Pour conclure, une citation de Kaamelott :
"Je pars pas sans bandages ! Si on croise un gamin, j'veux pas qu'il tombe dessus. Je suis le Roi Arthur. Jamais je perds courage. Je suis un exemple pour les enfants."
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Skrimir not being in FEH yet is baffling to me. He's arguably one of the most home-game plot-centric characters not to be included yet, and we're EIGHT years in. (Granted, RD has a whopping SEVENTY-THREE PLAYABLE characters, but still...)
Yeah, sure, it means he'll be all the more powerful, but he's up there w/ Elincia, Ike, and Micaiah for overall plot relevance since the whole point of part 3 kicking off was in part to prepare him to be Gallia's next king via actual warfare experience. (Outside retribution for the Senate's planning of the Serenes Massacre.)
By now the above three have a slew of alts (5, 6, and 7 respectively) while Skrimir isn't even in when he has his canon version, high Summer/Culture Alt potential, an Ascended potential for when he takes the Gallian throne, and he could be paired with a ton of units, including Caineghis, Giffca, Ranulf, Soren, Elincia, Sanaki, Dagr, Nótt, Roy, Rinkah, Charlotte, Dimitri, Balthus*, Alfred, Etie, Diamant, and Panette, just off the top of my head.
*Especially w/ Balthus. PURE chaos. Yune would be pleased.
Let the Hot-headed Lion Himbo in, IS. PLEASE.
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And Now, an Ode to Priam Fire Emblem: The Decade or So Long Blorbo
As I type this, the Nintendo 3DS and WiiU eShop have legally shut down their Internet servers. Pokemon can still be transferred via the Poke Transporter & Pokemon Bank, and content that was downloaded before can still be redownloaded, but now it is legally impossible to not only buy games, but to also download their free content that was distributed online. For some games, this might not have been utilized or was just a small bonus that didn’t mean much. For Fire Emblem Awakening, it meant access to new maps & somewhat new characters. 
4 of the free online characters were within Awakening’s main story & acted as “what if” scenarios. What if Emmeryn survived her character defining fall that ended a decade-or-so-long war? What if Yen’fay was the Chon’sin royal sibling that survived instead of Say’ri? What would Gangrel do if he lived after Chrom defeated him? What would Walhart do? What would Aversa do if it turned out that she was brainwashed by a cult, realized this, and decided to fight against this? Some were better executed than others, in my opinion, but some of these characters also had exclusive skills, such as Aversa wielding dark magic outside of a Dark Mage/Sorcerer class or Walhart being immune to armor & beast killing weapons, or were just more manpower for your army.
There was one final Spotpass map, though, that acted as a nice free challenge mode (if you didn’t plan on buying the DLC for Apotheosis, of course) : 50 whole units against 26 of your own. At the epicenter of it is Priam, the character I’d like to honor with this memoir. 
Priam is a character not found in the main story of Awakening, and is a dweller of the Isle of Giants in the Outrealms (aka bonus content land oooooh). He’s the leader of a very large army (again, 50 units) consisting of people from every nation within the continents of Ylisse & Valm. He’s supposedly related to a radiant hero of legend, though it’s never officially confirmed. He likes to train, eat meat, and fight strong opponents to better himself regardless of their origins. Overall a relatively simple character to understand. 
For many players, they tend to forget he exists or do their best to pretend he doesn’t exist in the first place. Either they didn’t play his map, his character traits didn’t stick with others as strongly as others, or the big meat and potatoes hot button issue: his relation to Ike. Ike is the protagonist of the Tellius saga, or the games consisting of both Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn. He does not have a canonical ending where he marries, and within the games, he doesn’t show romantic interest in any female characters. He does, however, have paired endings with characters such as Ranulf (who goes on a journey) and Soren (who accompanied Ike on his own journey, never to be seen or heard from again). And with sources stating Priam is a direct descendant of Ike, rather than an off-shoot through Mist (Ike’s younger sister) and Boyd, many got upset. “How could Ike have a kid? He’s not interested in women. He likes Soren.” is something I see regularly while scouring through Priam’s tag on Tumblr or through comments on Youtube. And I’m not here to argue against that. I do, however, think I have an idea why Priam was chosen to be Ike’s descendant of all the previous lords: Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
Brawl, at the time, was the latest Smash Bros. game when Awakening was in development. Smash Bros. is usually how Nintendo fans branch out from just playing Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, or Kirby and get introduced to series they might not have even heard of, such as Fire Emblem. In fact, it was due to Marth & Roy’s appearance in the previous Smash Bros. game, Melee, that the West got their first taste of Fire Emblem games. However, in Brawl, Roy was removed from the roster and was replaced with Ike. This makes sense, as Path of Radiance was the latest console Fire Emblem game when Brawl was released. (I also wonder if it has to do with the west never receiving Roy’s game, but that’s just speculating on my end). Gotta promote your games somehow. Though from what I understand, the Tellius games did not sell as well as Intelligent Systems had hoped. Additionally, with the following games being remakes of Marth’s original adventures now on the DS, those also did not sell well. Heck, the west never officially got the remake for Mystery of the Emblem. 
This could just be fan speculation ruminating throughout the decades, but it seems to be common belief that due to poor sales, Fire Emblem was almost a goner franchise that probably would’ve remained dormant for decades or even had no games developed for it. As such, Intelligent Systems wanted to broaden the market by appealing to newcomers. Some that may have heard about Fire Emblem through Smash Bros., but never gave it a shot due to the permadeath system that the games were infamous for, or just no real interest beforehand. Awakening exploded in popularity, garnering new fans like crazy. And with Chrom, Lissa, Emmeryn, Lucina, and Owain being descendants of the recognizable Marth (especially as Lucian disguising herself as Marth and even being briefly confused for Marth by Tiki), it would make sense to have a supposed descendant of the recognizable Ike as well. …Although one could speculate that Walhart is a descendant of Alm & Celica, which makes sense given how Rudolf looks… And for more reference’s sake, they threw in a bunch of past Fire Emblem throwbacks in weapons & lore that made writing a worldbuilding-centric fic a fucking nightmare.
So, with all of that, what are my thoughts on Priam being related to Ike? 
…Eh? 
My whole explanation beforehand was me retelling how I got into Awakening in the first place sprinkled in with hearsay I’ve read online, but as I grow older & more bitter at the world, Priam could be related to a shoe for all I care. (Although if Roy DID stick in Brawl, it would be cool to see how his descendant would be, especially if we’re going the route of Eliwood/Ninian having Roy, who then marries Lillina). What I like about Priam is traits somewhat shown in Ike, sure, but it’s also just the missing potential that keeps me coming back to him.
SO, time to get into how I started to like him. I remember when I first played Awakening, I asked a friend if I should pick between Stahl or Lon’qu to marry (as I was aware of the auto-marriage to Chrom mechanic and wanted to avoid that). The friend said Stahl was a better pick, as he was a kind lad that loved to eat & had messy hair like yours truly. Then, when the Spotpass maps were released, I immediately made a new save file so that I could marry Priam. Why? …Because he had a bandana and I liked his English voice acting (for the few grunts & battle quotes that were present). The Awakening Hero armor design is eh, but I liked how his was customized to be, well, radiant. The 3D model was shinier than those of Flavia’s or other playable reclassed Heroes, and I really just liked how he paired a tattered cape with his armor. 
I also remember level grinding for an entire summer just so I could finally take on his map efficiently. Granted, I played Normal/Casual, but when I replayed the map a 3rd time for another save file, my units were barely able to beat him. It was worth it, in my opinion. 
What really made me start up that second save file were his supports with Female Robin. Priam is an unfortunate case of “Avatar-sexual”, meaning he only has supports with Robin & Morgan if he’s his dad (although in the Hot Springs DLC, he does have a nice chat with Yen’fay & tries his damnest to fight Walhart). We only learn small things about him, such as his love for training & how he utilizes breathing techniques that would fit right into Jojo or Demon Slayer. He also gets flustered when someone does something nice for him unexpectedly, such as Female Robin doing his laundry as thanks for training with her. He doesn’t really care about expenses, as he bought a really fucking expensive ring when he proposed to Female Robin and says “I don’t give a damn what you do” when you sell items in his inventory. He’s devoted to the point of letting the world burn before seeing Female Robin get hurt (thankfully not to a yandere-like level). …And you learn he fought a bear when he was 12 if you support with Male Robin. He’s what got me to liking characters that had muscle (yes even though Basilio and Vaike were right there).
Combat wise, he was a good non-armor defensive unit (especially with wielding Ragnell to give him +5 defense), but what I find neat is that he learns weapon breaker skills even in classes he can’t become, like Gryphon Rider having Lancebreaker. He has both Sol and Luna, but not Aether like. This might be so Aether stays exclusive to Chrom, Lucina, and a potential daughter/granddaughter, but I speculated this could be Priam either holding himself back from using Aether’s potential or him still trying to figure it out.
Along with this, if you were a budding mythology/history nerd like I was, you realize he was named after not one, but two! TWO! Important figures in the Trojan War: King Priam and his son, Paris (In Japanese, Priam is named Paris, so yes, go ahead and make the French jokes. His English voice actor already plays the Frenchiest Fry Virion himself). In fact, this was one of the many things that sparked my interest in mythology/history. 
And finally, this was around the time I was starting to get interested in voice acting trivia. This meant I wanted to act as a human IMDB page and go “whoa, did you know such and such shared a voice with so and so?! Isn’t that neat?!” At the time, I didn’t know Jamieson Price also voiced Virion, but I DID know he voiced Iskandar from Fate/Zero and Chad from Bleach. Those were 2 of my favorite characters so I was sold. And then for Japanese, Daisuke Ono voices him. Jotaro Kujo from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure and Shizuo Heiwajima from Durarara!! Of all things! WOW! 
All of this is really fucking cool shit, and it’s such a damn waste that Intelligent Systems doesn’t do anything else with him! 
To fill in my disappointment, I’ve definitely created a version of Priam in my head that’s drastically different from canon. I’ve incorporated elements from what I’ve continued to read in his supports, inspiration coming from moments & traits from other series that I’ve watched/played that I thought would be cool, and overall just positive things to keep me going when I was going through a rough spot. Canonically, he’s probably like what people expect Goku from Dragon Ball Z to be. In my mind, he’s like a battle-hardened tactician brawler that gets very excited about swords (to the point where he takes up blacksmithing to craft his own), loves to speak about life in a philosophical lens, and experiences a quiet yet extremely unsettling quiet anger when someone he cares about gets hurt. I also headcanon he uses his headband to cover scars from his bout with fighting a bear when he was 12. OH! And he gets to have twin girls: Cassandra and Helena. 
…So yeah, completely different from canon. But with only 3 Cipher cards and 1 appearance in Heroes as I type this to go by, I feel like it’s okay to speculate about what could have been. He could have been in Awakening’s main story as an opponent to Walhart during the second arc, or he could have been a recurring superboss in future Fire Emblem games that somehow always ends up in different dimensions. He could have been a hint for an upcoming Fire Emblem game that explored Tellius 1,000 years in the future much like how Awakening explored Archanaea & Valentia 1,000 years after Marth, Alm, and Celica ruled. (And apparently 2,000 years after Seliph ruled Jugdral? Again, consistent worldbuilding in this series is a nightmare if you try to connect all the games). Heck, I thought that was going to be what Fates was when I saw the cutscene of King Sumeragi shielding baby Corrin from arrows. 
Part of the reason why I’m so attached to Priam is spite from this lack of potential, and the fans mostly ignoring him for their own reasons. Like! We could have had so much more with this guy! And that kept me motivated during dark times in my life. I won’t go into specifics, as it’s quite personal & possibly triggering, but I’ll just say I felt very upset, very angry, and very alone at a certain point in my life. But I kept myself going for the unrealistic but still plausible goal of getting to see Priam get his own game. It might sound dumb, but it kept me wanting to move forward in life. And it’s because of that that I’m here today, and I’ve met other Priam fans online that have their own ways of showing that they like him. They have different reasons than me, and that’s awesome! Priam fans, in spite of their small numbers, exist! When I first joined Tumblr, I unofficially joined a “Radiant Waifu Society” where 3 other people were also Priam fans. I don’t talk to them as much as I did back then, but I do see one of the members post art from time to time & another one makes Fire Emblem Heroes content on Youtube now! I’ve also met one of my best online friends through a shared interest in Priam. She introduced me to many new friends I’ve made over the years, and I still talk with a few of them on a daily basis in friend group servers on Discord. I love sharing cursed voice acting trivia with her and the many other friends whenever I get the chance to, especially seeing their initial reactions when I tell them Priam is also voiced by Jelly Jiggler of Bobobo fame. 
All in all, I’d say Priam, in spite of his controversies in fandom spaces, was a great positive in my life that I can’t help but be thankful for. Intelligent Systems probably didn’t expect someone to care for this one-off character so much, but anything’s possible these days. 
Thank you for being such a positive force in my life, Priam Fire Emblem. With your map no longer being legal to download, here’s hoping you get your own game someday.
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