#So I just go with subtitles unless I hear otherwise (like now lol)
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heya! not sure if you answered this elsewhere already, but will you be watching the tgcf donghua in the og chinese or in eng dub? I only ask because while it’s typically recommended to consume content in its original language (something I myself always recommend), I gotta say that the donghua’s english dub is FANTASTIC! The voice actor of Hua Cheng, James Cheek, actually has read the books and is the screenplay writer for season 2. Also, he makes Hua Cheng sound like he’s on his hot boy shit 24/7 😩 Of course, it’s up to you! I’ve seen many people watching both (like myself). It gives two incredibly different watching experiences, but I just gotta shout out this eng dub because I usually am always against watching dub — not this time, lol. Also, the og chinese has pretty terrible subtitles tbh, like confusing mistranslations :/
I'm giving the english dub a shot, yes! I'll try it out for 2x01 and if it's as fab as everyone says I'll stick with it. <3
#GW Asks#TGCF#I actually have no qualms with dubs as an option#I just typically stick with the original language because dubs have a patchy track record#So I just go with subtitles unless I hear otherwise (like now lol)
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I'm a massage therapist as well, and I was curious if you think going to college or picking up something else is important just in case your body gives out overtime? I was never one for college (my ADHD could never!) but now idk lol
I hear you! I perosnally don’t have any other degrees, but did think about possibly studying nutrition, esthetician or any other body related fields to either combine it or fall back on.
depending on what interests you, But I’ve see people do just fine for decades in the massage world, so it’s doable long term. Some find tools to use (cups, bamboo, Japanese lifting) to elevate their hands/arms wear.
Where I live, you can get a job without a degree but sometimes the pay and access is better with one. Ex. Hospitality degree (gives access to reseptionist/front desk, hostess, manager etc with better pay)
Otherwise, I suggest maybe dipping your toes into something you find interesting like
- sports instructor (sports like tennis, ballet/dance, swimming, life guard, can grant access to privet lessons for young kids/teens etc)
- tutor (pick 2-3 subjects you’re good at, become part of an agency or do it freelance, teaching to both kids and adults depending on your skills/certifications)
- yoga (great for you’re own health and you can offer online/in person classes if certified. Working alone or with a company)
- translation, scriber/subtitle writer (often doesn’t require a degree, depending on level/skills. And if you go through agencies you can usually find tones of jobs)
Again, depending on you’re interests, you could do virtually anything between house sitting, baby sitting/daycare, coding/tech, artist, tour guide, travel massage therapist on cruises or work as an assistent at care facilities.
I personally do astrology, tarot and art on the side (I’m quite selective with it brings in some nice extra income for when I need it or to cushion my savings)
But I’d not suggest getting a costly degree unless it’s starting to feel necessary and you want it (and know you could get thru it even if it meant getting tutors etc)
Hope that helps 🥰
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How did you learn so many languages. Do you have any tips?
Yes!!!! Yes I do!!!
Everything I wish I could tell myself before starting my language “journey” lol:
🦩Dont be intimidated
Don’t be intimidated, specifically by doing listening or speaking practice. I know in the US (or for most English speakers), when we hear someone that speaks perfect English but merely has an accent we think “they don’t speak English”, but from experience this mentality is not shared with other languages. When you know even a little bit of a language or can’t speak it very well, natives speakers are really really encouraging. I think since we view not being 100% fluent without so much as an accent, as “not knowing any of a language” we are hard on ourselves and give up pretty easily.
🦩Listening practice is as important as studying vocabulary and grammar
When you listen to native speakers talk, you are training your ear even though you don’t understand it. Listen and listen, eventually your brain stops picking out English words that aren’t even there, but rather, starts to catch patterns in the language (for example, the same words sticks out to you over and over).
🦩Set realistic and doable goals or you’ll get discouraged and quit
If you are a busy person, make small goals to fit language study in. Don’t tell yourself that you need to master _____ within a week. Instead give yourself 15 mins of reading in the evening, and 25 mins of language listening in the morning. It’s also easier to add the language into stuff you do on a daily basis anyway. For example if you are religious, find your prayers you pray daily in the language you are learning.
🦩learn to read the language first (obviously this tip might not be applicable for character based languages like Chinese)
I know everyone says ���immersion is the best and most important part of language” but honestly, a lot of our native speaking knowledge comes from our literacy education. When we are taught how to read, it’s through reading we can discover new words through context. It’s also easy to pick up new language reading since it’s available anywhere, where immersion is only available when you are surrounded by native speakers. The first thing I do is learn how to read and write the language, then the entire language becomes accessible to me.
🦩Spend time perfecting the sounds of the language that are most difficult for you
The vocal sounds of a language is the foundation of a language. I know we are all impatient and want to simply learn as many phrases as possible as fast as possible, but if you get down the unfamiliar sounds of a language that don’t exist in English, you’ll have a better foundation of the language and your speaking and listening will be better from the very beginning. So take the time to practice those weird sounds by looking into the position of the tongue and where the sound comes from, from the chest to the lips. Look into how tense the mouth is, how much air comes from the lips, what the sound is like next to other sounds. When you master this speaking becomes more instinctual and it’s easier to pick up the language.
🦩Search YouTube, google, Instagram IN THE LANGUAGE YOU ARE STUDYING.
Don’t search “korean music” or “korean kids tv” or even “korean vegetables” in google. Just translate how to say them in a translator app, then copy and paste them into the search bar. This way native korean information, videos, posts will come up. For example, if you’re in the mood for some horror comics, and want to read/watch them in the language you are learning, go to the translator app, and figure out how to say them, then search it. It works way better, even if the translation isn’t correct or more natural, you’ll still get the information, posts, and videos you want to see.
🦩Find ways to practice speaking the language (I use HiNative) and don’t be discouraged by corrections.
Getting corrected does not mean you’re wrong, corrections are the most useful part of learning a language. If you are the type of person who is sensitive to criticism, you need to remind yourself corrections are NOT criticism. They are NOT a reflection of your progress, they are NOT you failing! You will always be corrected as a language learner and the sooner you are gentle with yourself in learning the sooner you will learn more. Get those first corrections out of the way, allow yourself to butcher pronunciation, get corrected for the first 10 times, let it sting a little and move on. Eventually you will be begging native speakers to tell you every little detail in where you went wrong!
🦩Tv and Books seems to be more useful for immersion and listening practice then music does
So far in my experience music is its very weird and abstract, and the things said in music aren’t really useful in speaking? It’s good for gathering vocab, but if you want music listening practice that’s music based try searching for rap in that language, although obviously you’ll be picking up a lot of informal language in music/rap. Tv shows however are typically how people really do talk, so turn off English subs and just listen! Books are really useful for learning new vocabulary, but sometimes written language is different than spoken (often), although when you speak it the way you’ve learned from a book the worst you’ll sound is “formal and poetic”.
🦩Look up “insert language you are learning phrases and words that aren’t useful or correct”
There so many programs and books that teach you phrases you’ll never use or that are only appropriate in very specific situations. I don’t know why language programs do this, but learning which ones are weird or only in specific settings before you start learning really helps. Chinese Especially does this...like I learned so many phrases and words that natives will never use and have no purpose???
🦩Know the different subjects of learning a language and which apps to use for that
Everyone uses Duolingo, but this app alone won’t make you speak a language. Duolingo and Memrise are great for memorizing vocab, but, is it vocab that in the context of your reading and listening practice? Are you learning words you are hearing and reading all the time? Duolingo is a lot of fun but I feel like the vocab is so broad and it doesn’t go deep enough into the language. Feel free to use it at first to get used to the sounds of the language, but try using flash card apps like quizlet or Anki instead where you can write down and study words you are hearing constantly. Memrise does have actually study sets for many language books and lessons! So you can study words you are hearing in specific programs and books which is pretty useful in regards to vocab.
There obviously is more than just learning vocab. What about grammar, listening practice, speaking practice and reading? If you are wanting to use primarily apps find out which apps are available for your language. Here is an example of the apps I use for each subject. Be aware some languages are not available on them.
Vocab: quizlet, anki
Grammar: books (printed or kindle), YouTube grammar lessons, websites
Reading: books (printed or kindle), beelinguapp, instagram (posts that have text), Netflix/YouTube with both subtitles in the language you are learning and spoken in language you are learning, epic app
Writing: just use paper and pencil/pen
Listening: audio books (beelinguapp/epic/kindle/YouTube), tv and movies (Netflix/YouTube etc with no English subs), conversations on YouTube (search in language you are studying, don’t search “Spanish conversations” or “Japanese conversations”)
Speaking: HiNative (pretty much all I use since it’s all languages, quick, and you get immediately answered and corrected by native speakers), get friends in language you are learning through lots of apps
Translator: it’s really hard to find a good one, most of them are really weird so only use them for words and the most basic or simple phrases and sentences, otherwise use HiNative to ask native speakers directly, or ask people on the apps that connect you to native speakers
🌱I should note that for talking to native speakers I only like HiNative, since it’s built to NOT be a form of social networking at all. It’s not personal in anyway, and there’s no way to private message or speak to other users outside a asking questions publicly. The people on there are only about learning or teaching a language, not usually making friends. I’ve found the sites that are built to make native speaking friends aren’t useful to me personally, as most of the native speakers are either dudes looking for a woman to date or people wanting to only practice English with you, so they wasted a lot of my study time. People who are willing to help you learn are there, but it takes time to filter everything else out. If you would find it helpful to make friends by all means use them but I don’t really use it myself.🌱
You don’t want to really study EVERY SUBJECT every single day (unless you have the time). It can get really overwhelming, and you don’t really absorb information that if you are just cramming. While I would say it’s good to read and listen daily, spread subjects out over the week. Grammar on Monday and Friday, vocab on Tuesday and Thursday. Take one day to review all of what you’ve learned all week. Pick a day you have the largest block of free time. Bi-weekly works fine too.
I have an old post on how I organize my study time for multiple languages: https://alwaysabeautifullife.tumblr.com/post/182817883372/what-do-you-use-to-learn-your-languages-im
🦩Write sentences daily of everything you’ve learned (no THIS I RECOMMEND DAILY)
Write as many as you can. Use all the grammar you’ve learned, the words you’ve learned, everything! Write them in your notes and submit them to be corrected in HiNative. The sentences they correct, put them in flash cards!
🦩It’s ok to abandon languages you aren’t passionate in
So you’ve learned to read the language, and you know basic phrases, and now you just don’t want to do it anymore. If you can’t think of any reason to maintain it and don’t know why you are studying it, learning some of the language is good! Fluency does NOT need to be everyone’s goal. You can hold a conversation, and that’s good enough for you. Feel free to try out various languages, there will be one or some that really are your passion, it’s fine to have the goal of fluency in those and conversational in others.
Don’t abandon languages however because you feel discouraged. Discouragement is just a bump to get over, when you train your brain to maintain study habits through the days you feel discouraged, you make it habitual. Habits are harder to break and abandon! Evaluate your reasonings for wanting to speak a language, and your reasons for abandoning them if you want. Don’t let difficulty, disorganized, discouragement, or poor time management get in your way!!
🦩With all that said it’s ok to take breaks
It’s ok to get overwhelmed and take breaks from language learning. If you can still maintain what you’ve learned by listening to music in your language or staying connected in some way that’s good, but the “you’ll loose a language” isn’t entirely true. I’ve taken year long breaks and refreshing what I learned previously is pretty easy! Your brain really does go “oh yeah I do remember this!” when you’re studying information you studied years ago.
🦩Be gentle with yourself
Be gentle with yourself. People that claim to be fluent in 6 months are selling something or want to be an influencer. Don’t compare yourself to them. Language learning even for natives is a lifetime education. It’s not something you do for 6 months then stop. It’s continual and that looks different for everyone (yes native speakers included). Don’t bother watching YouTube videos on how to learn in 10 mins or 3 months, you’ll only get discouraged about your own amazing progress and all the work you’ve done.
🦩Plan your “can you say something in it” phrase now
This one is just for fun but after hearing you are learning a language the first thing you’ll get asked is “oh cool you speak (insert target language here)? Can you say something in (insert target language here)?” It does not matter what level of fluency you are at, you will absolutely forget the entire language and your own native language when you are asked this because it sends your brain to another dimension. So think of some funny phrases to say to people who ask, master them, then when they ask what they mean you can have a laugh. Other wise you will say something stupid of jumbled words (my go to was ‘we women are fruit’ for some reason thanks brain you’re incredible) you’ve learned that don’t belong in a sentence, or even worse you’ll run a blank and you’ll just look at them like:
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So think of inside jokes to tell your friends, funny phrases, even goofy insults! Memorize them and tell them at your friends and family to torture them because they can’t escape sound waves! It’s a good way to memorize the language but also to become confortable speaking it!
Please excuse any errors I don’t wanna go over my mistakes so pretend u can’t see them 🙈
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Does your head hurt when you cry? No, this has never happened to me. My headaches are almost always work-related/screentime-related.
Who was the last person to comfort you? I’d say Sofie. We were catching up and I was getting her up to speed about The Breakup (apparently she had no idea) and though I don’t think she specifically meant to comfort me, she said things that were really reassuring. Like how my energy is different now, I seem happier, independence suits me, etc.
Are you currently wearing any socks? Nope, I never wear socks indoors.
What's the closest thing to your right hand? Apart from the keyboard, my blanket.
When was the last time you made a wish? Idk I never make them unless I’m at a well or it’s my birthday.
Have you ever watched a foreign film with English subtitles? Regardless of the language I absolutely have to have subtitles on all the time because my sense of hearing can get terrible when watching movies. For Filipino films I like keeping English subs on because I’ll sometimes have a hard time with deeper Filipino words or phrases – and it’s also fun to compare how much of the English translation is accurate.
When was the last time you wore athletic shorts? I’m not sure for shorts, but I wore tights for my spinning class two weeks ago.
Do you think that in the end, everything will fall into place? It’s a nice comforting thought to have but I always prefer to be realistic so I can manage my own expectations.
What's the closest transparent object to you? My phone case.
What was the last thing you swallowed? Water.
Do you like mayonnaise? Did I even spell that right? It’s correct and yes I fucking love mayonnaise, it’s my fave condiment and I can put it on nearly everything even if a dish doesn’t traditionally have mayo in it lol.
Anyways... When was the last time you went out in the rain? Yesterday. Rain’s been more frequent this month but my friends and I had dinner reservations for yesterday, so we pushed through with it – also because Sofie is leaving for the UK next month and it was her only free time; otherwise there’s no telling when we’ll next see her again.
Have you ever seen a Tim Burton movie, like Coraline, 9, etc.? Just Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Do you keep 3D glasses after you've left the movie theatre? No, but I also never go for the 3D option at the cinema. When was the last time you heard a British accent in person? Yesterday, we had a kick out of teasing Sofie for her future British accent once she gets settled in Brighton. gosh I AM SO EXCITED TO VISIT HER IN THE FUTURE
Who was the last person to unsurprisingly disappoint you? My brother.
Do you know what FTW stands for? For the win.
When was the last time you went bowling? 2019, I think? Idk it was with my ex and when it comes to her my memory has already become all muddled and a big blur.
Do you like cats? Sure. But I wouldn’t want one as a pet.
Do you use aerosol hairspray? It's bad for the environment, you know... I don’t use hairspray.
What was the last food you choked on? I never really choke on anything except my own saliva hahaha.
Who was the last person you disappointed? Myself.
Do you really miss someone right now? No, I’m fine.
Do you think anyone can really reach "Nirvana" at some point? I can't speak for anybody else, but personally I don't think that's really a thing, no. < Same.
What's the capital of the state you reside in? We don’t have states.
What is the last advice you gave someone? I can’t remember.
Do you ever dip your fingers in wet candle wax? I wouldn’t dare.
When was the last time you sweat really bad? Two weekends ago when I did spinning with Bea and Liara.
Do you write it, alot or a lot? A lot, because alot isn’t even an option. Does it annoy you when people are always smiling and happy all the time? Not for the most part. The only time it does is if they spread their vibes while actively shoving their way of living down my throat. Like you know how some people would relate happiness to praying/Jesus or the phases of the moon and crystals? You do you, but I personally am just not affected if something is in retrogade or if we’re expecting a full moon or whatever. I don’t directly confront/provoke those people of course; but if I see posts like that I just hide them from my feed or unfollow the person altogether. Last thing I want to do is invalidate someone’s source/s of happiness and peace.
What was the last rule you broke? Using flavored pods because those have been deemed illegal here recently.
Have you ever hazed someone or been hazed? Yeah. The org culture in UP is such that you go through some sort of final rites, or like an initiation. I've always found it stupid but I’m glad that younger generations are straying away from such a dumb, unnecessary tradition.
What is your opinion on abortion? Pro-choice. This shouldn’t even be up for discussion.
Miley Cyrus rings your door bell, and asks for some shelter. You say..? I’d first do whatever I can to prove her identity because that seems sketchy as all hell lol, then once I let her in I’ll probably start off by asking how the hell she ended up in the Philippines. Then I’d get her food, some pilows and a blanket, let her play with my dogs, etc.
What would you say if someone called you at 3 am to have a casual convo? Depends. There’s a very small circle of people I would wake up for because who knows what they’re going through; otherwise I would ignore the call.
Have you ever made a SERIOUS typo, and couldnt go back and change it? I wouldn’t say any of my typos have had any serious or significant implications.
Have you ever yelled at an authority figure? I don’t think so.
When was the last time you had to pee really badly? I can’t seem to remember when it was but recently I was stuck in a situation where I couldn’t pee for a long time that day, to the point that my bladder started really hurting and I was mentally panicking about bladder stones.
What was the last thing you regretted eating? Not eating, but drinking - last night. My stomach just didn’t fare well with my espresso martini and it felt super upset, so there was a point in the dinner with friends that I fell quiet because I was dealing with the ahce. Have you ever met anyone famous? Yes I met Sassa Gurl last June and I’M STILL OVER THE MOON ABOUT IT. I hate this job for the most part but boy does it let me meet my favorite celebs.
How often do you get fountain drinks from a gas station? Never.
Do you like screamo music? Not so much.
Do you know anyone with some serious talent? So many people around me have really strong talents.
When was the last time you made fun of someone? Earlier this evening, but lightheartedly, of course.
What was the last thing you yelled? Also earlier this evening when I was yelling along to a BTS song.
Will you save all your answers? It's no fun if you don't. That’s kind of what I do with the surveys I do here on Tumblr.
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Are there any changes to what goes on in events like Ghost Marriage or Fairy Gala in the RR AU? Considering how huge RR!Jamil’s ego is, would he be offended that the ghost bride thinks Idia is the ideal prince and therefore better than him? Or is it a different case due to the likelihood that the events take place after main story?
ANON....YESTERDAY I SPENT MY ENTIRE MORNING AND PART OF MY AFTERNOON WATCHING TRANSLATION VIDS OF THE ENTIRE FAIRY GALA AND GHOST MARRIAGE EVENTS JUST FOR YOUUUUUU :D !!! I don’t usually keep up with the events bc I skip whatever I don’t understand in-game and can’t stay focused/engaged with the story unless I watch subtitled videos of the events themselves (so if you know a place where I can get subbed translated vids of Dance and Wishes or maybe a line by line translation of each of the event episodes please link me 👀) SO I ACTUALLY HAD NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN EACH EVENT ASIDE FROM LIKE...OVERVIEW SUMMARIES THAT DON’T GO SUPER IN DETAIL ON WHAT WAS SAID LMAOOOO
So right now I’ve watched the Beans Day, Fairy Gala, and Ghost Marriage events and can answer your question somewhat decently! (I might have to revisit after watching Dance and Wishes, I really have noooo idea what goes on in that one lmao) We know Beans Day takes place in February (before or after VDC...? Man, we really don’t know...), Fairy Gala is supposed to announce spring (which I’m told begins...sometime in March? Or does it start later, in April? I live in a place with no change in seasons so I’m not sure lol), and Ghost Marriage is...idk it’s a mystery but I assume it’s in June? Dance and Wishes...no idea at all, someone please enlighten me!
With these timeframes in mind, I think the role reversed au versions of each event would go as follows:
For Beans Day, Kalim is still on Farmer Team and Jamil is still on Monster Team. I think by this point in time (unless ch5 comes up with some wild stuff that keeps them too occupied) they would have finally gotten together and thus would officially be in a relationship. However, since it’s a relatively new development and Kalim is surprisingly shy about it, they probably keep their relationship status lowkey. This secretiveness leads to them agreeing to sneak away during Beans Day so they can see each other. As a result, instead of being found eating at the botanical gardens, Kalim is basically nowhere to be seen after some time into the game. Both him and Jamil still end up getting knocked out of the game though bc they playfully “betray” each other when they meet up! As Jamil hugs Kalim to “catch” him, Kalim squishes a bean against the front of Jamil’s jacket. They both laugh about it before stealing a kiss and hiding away in the woods for the rest of the day. The fact that they’re both able to make light of/lightheartedly joke about topics previously sensitive to them (betrayal) would be proof of them growing past the trials they faced in ch4. They trust each other again, now more than ever.
For Fairy Gala the same people get picked, though since the theme is just “harvest season, but make it Fashion™” (bc miss me with the whole “exotic” theme), the reasoning behind the dorm leader picks are Leona and Jamil’s connections to nobility and Crowley’s desire to mess with them both for their past bad attitudes. This irks Jamil greatly bc Crowley doesn’t outright say who he really is or what his social status is (even with ch4 I don’t think that info would have been exposed), but lumping him together with Leona makes Jamil look odd even if Crowley claims it’s bc Jamil has a history in dance. Also, aside from Jamil and Kalim swapping outfits bc their dorm positions are the opposite from canon, everyone’s clothing remains the same. Much like ch5 is shaping up to be, this event is Kalim’s moment to SHINE. As a skilled entertainer with lots of experience and training in regards to dancing, singing, and acting, he’s in his natural element here! Additionally, Kalim looks up to Vil since they both act in some capacity, so he listens well and learns quickly in order to be his star pupil. As a result, it’s actually Jamil who falls behind and needs to practice more to keep up with Kalim! That’s fine by him though since he gets to spend more time up close and personal with the one he loves. Their main show stopper is an animated couples’ dance with a beautiful and heartfelt declaration of blooming spring love as their final act!
For Ghost Marriage, I have a few different scenarios in mind depending on when it takes place and what I decide for the role reversed au’s future. If it takes place prior to June or otherwise not very close to the end of the school year, Jamil laughs upon hearing about the failure of all the other students, decides this is NOT a worthwhile use of his time, and very firmly refuses to help out not only bc he doesn’t want to but also bc he knows whatever he tries won’t work. He’s not offended whatsoever over not being Eliza’s “ideal prince” bc he knows Kalim loves him for who he is, what he does, and how he looks like, and that’s more than enough to make Jamil happy already. If it happens close to June or at the end of the school year, Jamil might be more defensive and refuses less bc he thinks he’s above all this nonsense but rather bc he’s busy being very clingy. Depending on what information we receive and how ch5 plays out, Kalim might actually be leaving NRC after the year ends, in which case Jamil would either be even MORE clingy bc he’s upset over how little time he has left to spend with Kalim in person OR he’s busy moping around bc Kalim already left the campus and he misses him. Regardless of how or why it happens, Jamil is highly likely to refuse bc he already has someone to love and thus his proposal won’t be very convincing.
In Kalim’s case, he might actually consider saying yes if asked. I don’t think he’d do it for Idia in particular (ouch, that’s cold) but rather bc a lot of his friends got caught up in the mess. This means he’s pretty likely to say no if he’s sought out more toward the beginning of the event since there wouldn’t be nearly as much at stake and, much like Jamil, Kalim is pretty sure any declaration of love from him will be too hollow to be believable. Of course, Kalim has some acting ability to him and is an excellent singer so he might be able to get at least somewhere if he tried, but ultimately I think he would get rejected bc he didn’t meet the ridiculously specific qualifications and/or Eliza could tell his heart belonged to another. It’s important to note that if Kalim agrees to go, Jamil will as well, albeit very reluctantly and with a high chance of being rejected due to his impatience and/or insincerity. However, it’s also of note that Jamil will complain/nag him to say no and stay safe with him at the dorm if he catches wind of the whole thing before Kalim does. This all is, ofc, assuming the event takes place at a time when Kalim is still at the school. If not, then...he’s literally not even there.
For Dance and Wishes, idk if they have any impact at all in the event story but I can say that their wishes aren’t really decided/set in stone yet. However, I do have some ideas for what their wishes might be, and they might end up being what I decide on for them!
Jamil’s wish: “For Kalim to always find happiness.”
Kalim’s wish: “To always have the ability to put a smile on people’s faces.”
#twisted wonderland#twst#kalim al asim#twst kalim#jamil viper#twst jamil#kalim x jamil#role reversed au#my stuff#responses
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Oooo, how about two from each of them? Fanfic asks: J and P, film asks: 15 and 16, music asks: 20 and 26.
OMG thanks!!! :DDD
Ask games: Fanfic asks, Film asks and Music asks. (People you can still send me asks if you want, asks are fun to answer to!)
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FANFIC ASKS:
A little background before we get to the questions: I haven’t written too many, actually only 6 quite short ones (and one of them is a bit longer than usual) about Die Ärzte (Bela/Farin FTW) and all of these I have written between the years 2009 and 2012, so I was 18-21 which means they are not that good. And there’s lots of things I wouldn’t write anymore. I also have a WIP on my computer, I started it in 2012 but stopped writing altogether only to start writing again in the end 2018, it has bit over 28k words currently and tbh I have written 90% of that when I started writing again two years ago. I still have my old ones up on LiveJournal (ask for a link), but I haven’t published anything fron this later one as I’ve just been writing down all kinds of snippets whenever I have had an inspiration. I think those are also a lot better in quality than what I wrote before, the old ones are quite cringey.
J. What is your favorite fic that you’ve written?
I guess we talk about those fics I have also finished, now. It’s actually hard to decide but I would say my favourite is either Why not even once? or The Boring Book Freak. I think the latter is actually The favourite.
The first one (was actually my second dä ff overall) is set to happen in 2003 and in that one Farin is leaving for another vacation somewhere and Bela wants to go with him, but Farin wants to travel alone and Bela is struggling with that, as well as with Farin finally leaving and having to somehow survive his time at home without Farin there. The writing itself is bit stupid and I feel that the end got bit too far but otherwise I like the idea.
The second one (came actually after the previous one) is set to happen in the early/mid 90s (my fave Bela/Farin era btw) and on that they just are at some random summer cottage. Now, fuck cottagecores and such, I wrote it because summer cottages are a thing in Finland and I wrote it when cottagecore was not even cool yet. Somehow I imagined that it would be very Farin-like to rent a cottage from the middle of nowhere, in a forest and then spend a weekend or so there with Bela. Who then is not entertained at all and is bored because Farin won’t put away his book and won’t give him any attention, so he tries everything to get Farin’s attention. I especially like the visual images this fanfic gives to me, I can see their hairs and outfits so well and those are also aesthetically very pleasing. (They look the same as in that Absolut Live interview from the 90s, I don’t control their looks with my fics usually, I just have an idea and then my brain creates how they look in that particular scene :D)
I have also written a short songfic around the lyrics of their song “Ich weiß nicht (ob es Liebe ist)” and it was fun to imagine that as Bela/Farin. That was fun to write.
This got a bit long so I put the rest under a cut:
P. What are your favorite tropes to write?
(Had to google what a trope is lol. I’m old-school and no longer know most of the terms unless they’re old terms.)
Angst - I put my own angst, sadness and angriness into my writing often. It’s when I feel like in real life I would need other people but I don’t know how to reach out or don’t just feel comfortable about opening up, I open up a file and start writing. This is also where we get to the next trope...
Hurt/Comfort - But not so that X hurts Y, but that Y feels hurt for other reasons and then X comforts them. I kinda got obsessed with this theme after being bullied at school so I was always hurt but never comforted, so I often go back to those feels and emotions with my text to look for that comfort (hug, nice words, whatever) I never got in real life.
Fluff - This is bit complicated because I like writing fluff but I also hate reading fluff I have written. Because it does not sound like me. And sometimes when I write, I feel like standing behind my own back and vomiting a little on the inside because of how cheesy and disgusting that is but still I can’t stop writing. And then I feel like a different person when I read them because I can’t believe it’s ME who wrote them. The same way when I watch movies and people kiss, I always look away. And I want to look away when I read my fanfiction. But I can’t, especially because I know I looked at that scene in my head when I wrote it.
Humour - I love humour so much and I like to include this to my writing. Normally I put the humour in my comics but some of that fits also in the regular texts too.
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FILM ASKS:
These are super tough but also fun - I have been trying to think of what to answer to these for days.
15. A film everyone loves but you hate?
The Avengers (-12). Sorry but not sorry. Well I don’t hate it but I don’t understand why everyone says it’s the best Marvel movie ever. It’s not. It’s full of clichés and stupid forced heteroromances and whatnot and the plot was just so, so predictive I don’t understand why it’s often talked about as some sort of cinematic master piece. I literally was able to tell everything that was gonna happen next when I watched it for the first time. Only cool things in that movie are Loki and Iron Man, whose character I already liked as I had seen the Iron Man movie and liked it. But I hated both Thor movies (the third one is awesome tho).
I like Marvel and I have seen I guess most of the movies - before MCU all good Marvel movies to come out were The X-Men movies and Spider-Man movies, and because I saw so many terrible Marvel movies, I was avoiding the whole MCU and I got into these movies much later and still, after seeing them all, I say The Avengers is one of the worst ones. Thor and Thor 2 are pretty much even worse (and I haven’t even seen the Hulk movie because it looks terrible), mainly because I just can’t stand the fact they’re mainly just built around Thor and his love interest...
16. A film you love but everyone else hates?
Spider-Man 3 (or the whole trilogy with Tobey Maguire). I see we continue with Marvel here but seriously I don’t understand why everyone is always picking on Tobey’s version of Spider-Man? And people especially hate the third movie and how Venom was portrayed in it (I’m obsessed with Venom’s human teeth pls I want his teeth), when it’s actually the best one for me. The second one is bit boring because it was again all about whining and Mary-Jane... Anyway, the reason why I am so attached to these movies is that I saw the first Spider-Man movie from TV when I was a teenager and in junior high myself, and I was bullied and a bit of a nerd so I could relate to Peter Parker a lot, and it gave me just so much strength to see him become Spider-Man and to stand up against the bullies and other assholes.
I also saw the third movie in the movie theater and there was one scene during which I started hysterically laughing with my friend because of an expression Tobey made as he was sitting on a bed, I don’t know why but somehow I just totally lost it at that :D It still makes me laugh so much when I see it! And when the movie ended, I heard a The Killers song “Move Away” for the first time during the end credits and TK was one of my favorite bands at the time (and still is).
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MUSIC ASKS:
20. a song that empowers you
It gotta be Dead! by My Chemical Romance:
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This album was what got me through all the shit that happened when I was 15+ and especially this song always made (and still makes) me feel so good. I often listened to my old mp3 player while walking to school and back home and every time this song came by, I just felt like nothing can harm and that life FINALLY was so great! It’s so energetic and still makes me feel that living is actually super awesome.
26. a song that taught you a lesson
Hmmm. I think I will answer to this with Dusche by Farin Urlaub.
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That thumbnail is terrible but... And why did I choose this song? Well, I’m all for the sound what comes to music and I’d say at least 80% of all lyrics go way over my head. I just don’t have the skills for understanding poetry and also very poetic lyrics make me go crazy. I hate not knowing and when I have to assume, guess and interpret something. I don’t want to guess but I wanna know what someone has actually thought.
Dusche was the first song that had lyrics that for the first time ever actually spoke for me. I probably saw some video with English subtitles a fan had made and it just blew me away because holy shit, people are capable of writing lyrics even I can understand??? And that way I realized I can like lyrics but only if they make absolutely no sense (aka are funny or somewhat crazy, like Dusche) or when they are written in a story form or sung from the 1st person view or to “you” or in passive - but only if I can get behind the idea there.
After Dusche, Farin’s song Porzellan followed. And one of my absolute favourites is Karten. So, Farin is one of the only few people whose lyrics I have been able to understand. I still don’t hear lyrics and don’t understand a majority of the lyrics my fave bands write, and I have understood only a couple of Bela’s lyrics and I’m not sure if I’ve understood any of Rod’s lyrics. It’s not even about the language barrier anymore really, it’s just the topics or wordings I cannot comprehend.
Thank you again for the ask! This was very interesting to ponder and answer to :)
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1. have you ever gotten soap in your mouth for cursing? do you think that’s right to do to kids who curse?: >> I did get soap in my mouth, but not for cursing; for “talking back” or being “fresh”, mostly. I was (understandably...) too afraid to do anything as brash as curse. I don’t think it’s an appropriate disciplinary measure at all, unless your mission is to confuse and frighten your child into obedience... which, apparently, is a lot of parents’ ultimate goal, it seems.
2. what age do you think is appropriate for kids to start watching horror movies with lots of gore?: >> I really don’t have a solid opinion about this. I tend to skew a little unorthodox on this front, which is probably best left unexplored (fortunately, this is all hypothetical and I’ll never have to address this situation in real life).
3. do you know what the word “polyamorous” means? and did you ever hear that song by breaking benjamin?: >> I know what it means, and I do remember the Breaking Benjamin song.
4. how many bug bites do you currently have?: >> Zero.
5. what’s one word you always have trouble spelling and can’t remember the correct spelling of?: >> I don’t think there’s any word like that. Spelling and phonics is one of my few strong suits.
6. what’s one band that really sucks live?: >> I don’t know, I haven’t seen any that I thought sucked performance-wise (I have seen a few whose music I just didn’t care for, like some opening acts, but that has nothing to do with the quality of their performance).
7. do you go to warped tour? why or why not?: >> I have never been to Warped Tour. I just never got an opportunity to go, or I was never interested, or whatever.
8. do you have any wind chimes outside your house? how many?: >> No. Some neighbours have them, I think.
9. do you know someone who actually had someone give them a bouquet of real roses and one fake one, and tell them they’ll love them until the last one dies?: >> I’ve never even heard of that.
10. which do you like better, firefox or internet explorer?: >> Firefox.
11. who is the most attractive person on your street?: >> ---
12. do you have a flat stomach? would you ever wear a belly shirt to show it off?: >> I no longer have a flat stomach, and you wouldn’t catch me dead in a crop top.
13. which do you prefer on yourself, long or short hair?: >> I like how I look with long hair, but I prefer the low maintenance of short hair. So, I buzz my head, and I wear wigs when I feel like it. Best of both worlds.
14. what about on your preferred sex? long or short?: >> ---
15. with eyebrow piercings, do you prefer the ring or the curved barbell?: >> I have no opinion.
16. have you ever pierced something yourself? why and what was it?: >> Yeah, I pierced my ears a few times. I did it because I wanted to? And also because I couldn’t afford to have them professionally done. I also did it when I was 16 because my father wouldn’t let me get a cartilage piercing, so I pierced my own ear at work one day. (My father eventually noticed because I put the most ridiculously obvious jewelry in it... hold on, I’m going to find a photo of what I’m talking about because like... what did I expect to happen)
looked something like that. I straight up deserved to get caught.
17. would you date someone who was five years older than you?: >> I don’t date, but that wouldn’t be a dealbreaker if I did.
18. i heard of a girl whose boyfriend cheated on her with a 13yearold (he’s 18) and got her pregnant, so she left him. what would you have done if you were in her situation?: >> I... just can’t imagine being in this situation, sorry.
19. how old was the youngest person you ever found attractive? and how old were you?: >> Oh, I don’t know. Probably not much younger than myself; my tastes always skewed older (oftentimes much older).
20. isn’t it annoying when you’re trying to start conversation with someone and all they say is “yup” or “really now” or something like that?: >> Not necessarily, unless they’re usually much more exuberant and participatory than that. Then I’d wonder if something was wrong (and if it was my fault).
21. if you have aim, do you have any linked screen names? how many?: >> ---
22. which of your favorite bands released a new album last?: >> I’m not sure.
23. are you waiting for any bands to release new albums? which ones?: >> No.
24. what’s your favorite store for buying cds and such at?: >> Back in the day when that was my primary mode of listening to music, my favourite music stores were Virgin Megastore and Tower Records. Ah, nostalgia.
25. what’s the point in buying dvds like “girls gone wild” and other porn if you can get tons more online for free?: >> Well, people generally do watch more porn online nowadays, I think. But the benefit of having a DVD is that... you never have to worry about the video being taken down, and you always have it available (so, even if you don’t have internet connection, etc). It’s the same argument for having paper books or movies/shows on DVD, really.
26. if you had to have one drug (illegal ones, like marijuana and cocaine and all of them) right now, what would it be?: >> Well, marijuana is technically legal here (although I think new recreational dispensary openings in this city have been kinda interrupted by the whole pandemic business, so it’s still a bit hard to access for now). The only drugs I’m even interested in anymore (besides maybe a little low-THC weed, just to see) are psychedelics, and I don’t just want to take them casually, I want a tripsitter or a therapist present. So it’s more complicated than just “getting the drug”.
27. would you ever get a sleeve or a half sleeve on your arm (we’re talking about tattoos)?: >> I would love that. I have had the idea to have a tree-rings tattoo down my left arm like the astronaut character in The Fountain for years.
28. do you have a wireless mouse and/or keyboard?: >> No, my keyboard and mouse are both wired, which is logical. Wouldn’t it suck if I was in the middle of a boss fight in FFXIV and the battery in my keyboard or mouse just fuckin died? Yikes.
29. do you think your biological parents love each other?: >> They did not love each other, from my perspective. I don’t even know if my father is capable of loving anyone, the way he fucking acts.
30. do you have callouses on your feet?: >> No.
31. did you see the commercial for that “foot grater” on tv that basically shaves the callouses off of your feet? isn’t that nasty to think about?: >> That is nasty to think about, and I don’t think it’s even necessary. Anything to make a buck, I guess.
31. what’s your favorite color combination (ex. pink and purple)?: >> I don’t know, I like a lot of colour combinations.
32. ever been to watchmovies.net? what do you think of the quality of the movies there?: >> Yeah. I don’t like sites like that because I can never get good subtitles and also they’re always buffering and shit. I can’t put up with that anymore, I paid my dues back in my literally-broke days.
33. what’s one movie you’re dying to see but haven’t had the chance to see yet?: >> Everything on my watchlists across the four streaming services I patronise. I just don’t always have movie-watching energy (or time), so it’s slow going to get through all my watchlists.
34. would you rather live alone in a huge mansion or alone in a small studio apartment?: >> Alone in a small studio apartment. Unless the huge mansion had a staff, because I really can’t fucking imagine keeping a mansion clean and maintained otherwise. But... huge mansions often come with a lot of acreage... and no neighbours... that’d be nice.
35. if you came across child porn on your computer, what would you do?: >> How the fuck would that even happen? Let’s not get silly here.
36. what’s the last computer game you played?: >> Final Fantasy XIV.
37. what’s the name of the street you live on?: >> Eh, let’s not.
38. would you ever dye your entire head blonde?: >> No.
39. what’s the randomest thing you ever heard of someone collecting?: >> I don’t know, most things people collect seem random to me.
40. how often do you use “<3” or “:]”?: >> Rarely.
41. isn’t it annoying how people walk around thinking hollister logo tshirts and ripped jeans are preppy, even though those things would never be allowed in a prepatory school because of the dress code?: >> *stares blankly in “I don’t care”*
42. how do you feel about abortion?: >> I am pro-choice.
43. what’s one thing your grandmother does that you can’t stand?: >> ---
44. did you ever notice how it’s more tragic if a younger person dies than an older person, even if they both died of the same cause?: >> It does seem that way to people, but I don’t see it that way myself. Of course I’d rather die when I’m old than, like, right now, but hey. It be like that.
45. when’s the last time you snuck around, and where did you go?: >> I don’t have to sneak around.
46. how often do you wash your hair?: >> Once a week, provided I remember.
47. do you think the price for a movie ticket is too high these days?: >> Not here, it isn’t. In NYC, it was fucking astronomical.
48. have you ever been to a drive-in movie theater?: >> No. I’d like to one day, that seems fun. But only if I have a convertible, lol.
49. what’s your favorite musical?: >> Phantom of the Opera.
50. what do you think of dr. seuss?: >> I’ve never read him (that I can remember) and I don’t care.
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How I Learned Japanese
Since Anon asked how I learned, I decided to make a post about it in case anyone else was wondering or wanted to learn too~ This will sort of be a timeline of my journey, so I guess you could call it my Japanese journey, because that doesn’t sound weird at all. >w> It ended up being longer than I expected so if you don’t want to read everything, just skip to the bottom and I’ll put a short version with all the main stuff that helped me learn if you are interested in learning too. It’s under the cut~
-Exactly five years ago, I knew absolutely no Japanese. I didn’t even know sayonara was a Japanese word to be honest until I heard them say it in an anime XD To make a long story short, I got obsessed with anime when I was about 17, and that is around the time that I decided, maybe I should try learning the language. It was almost exactly 5 years ago this month.
-I looked up websites about how to learn and they all said learn the alphabets first, so that’s what I did. I made some charts of the kana and practiced with flash cards until I memorized them. I then took some song lyrics in romaji and copied them down in both hiragana and katakana, trying not to look at the charts. I think after about a month of practicing them, I decided to just move on and focus on the language.
-During that time, I also looked up and started watching some Japanese lesson videos on youtube ===> [Youtube Link Here] These were a great introduction to the language. I had a notebook and I would write down the lessons like I was taking a class. LOL I watched all the videos and memorized most of what I learned (there are probably way more videos on that channel now than there were back then).
-From that point I just started using a dictionary to learn words. I would watch an episode of anime and write down words I heard, along with the possible translation from the subtitles. Then I would look up all those words in the dictionary afterwards. For example, there was an episode of Karneval where they saw smoke and Tsukumo said “kemuri?” and I read the translation of smoke so I wrote it down. I looked it up in the dictionary afterwards to make sure it was right and then I would write all the new words I learned on another page that I would review later to memorize them all. Although there were a ton of words I misheard or couldn’t find in the dictionary, this method helped me memorize a LOT of words. I still remember the exact moments I first heard some words just like this example, which happened almost 5 years ago. That is probably because hearing and seeing what’s going on in the anime, plus being able to read it in English, plus writing it down at the exact moment and reminding yourself of it later all helps it stick in your mind.
-I would review these lists of new words every morning and every night. Studying in the morning helps you absorb it with a clear mind, and studying at night helps you memorize it because it will stay in your head all night.
-I did that and tried to memorize vocabulary lists for several months. Another thing I did during this time was write down song lyrics in kana, and then write the meaning of each word underneath it. This helped give me an idea of how Japanese grammar worked because I could visually see the set-up of each sentence along with the meanings.
-After those several months, I realized that I still couldn’t understand much because I didn’t really study much grammar, I only knew the meaning of nouns and some verbs, but didn’t know how to use them. I looked up Japanese grammar books online and found a free guide (or at least I think it was supposed to be free when I downloaded it, but now it looks like it’s for sale. You can still find the old version online if you look it up). It is called the “Japanese Grammar Guide” by Tae Kim. This guide actually helped me a lot so I need to mention it. It took me about a year to learn everything that was in this guide.
-While I was learning from that guide, and it was about a year since I started trying to seriously learn the language, I reached a point where I still couldn’t understand pretty much anything in Japanese without a translation. I got really upset and stopped learning for a week and wanted to give up because it was too confusing and too much work and I didn’t see any results. But then I thought, all of this time I spent studying will be wasted if I stop now and I will regret it forever if I continue watching anime, so I HAVE to keep going. So I forced myself to gain some motivation again and I kept going.
-After finishing the grammar guide, I decided I better learn some kanji too. I only knew a few kanji at that point and hadn’t been that interested in learning to read Japanese, until I decided that I really wanted to be able to play otome games too. I’m sure you’ve heard of “Remembering the Kanji” by James W. Heisig. I found a copy of it online (although I’m sure this book isn’t supposed to be free XD) and started using it. I would write down each kanji I learned along with the meanings and review them every day. DEFINITELY get this book if you want to learn kanji, it really helps and there are still kanji I remember learning from it that I rarely even use, so it does work. You shouldn’t need to use the second volume unless you really want to learn every single kanji, but many of them are rare so I never used the second one.
-There is also an app called “Kanji Stories” that gives stories for each kanji following that book, so this comes in handy when the book stops giving examples for you to use. I used this app a LOT and still sometimes use it to refresh myself when I forget a kanji. Although I downloaded it a long time ago on my old Iphone 4 which I pretty much just use as Japanese Dictionary/music player/camera at this point XD So I’m not sure if it’s still available in the app store.
-I also downloaded another app called “JEDict Lite” which lets you look up kanji by writing them or by using radicals. BUT you need to learn stroke order first otherwise it won’t work if you draw the kanji in the wrong order. I still use this app all the time because I still have problems remembering all those darn kanji. XD [Itunes Link Here]
-I should also mention that I use a Japanese dictionary app made by Bravolol. [Website Link Here]
-All of these apps were free when I downloaded them, and it looks like they still are, but my phone is super old so I don’t know if they would still work on newer phones.
-So after about 3 years of studying and memorizing stuff, and just getting bored of doing the same thing, I started trying to use the language. I started playing some visual novels and it was still very hard to read so I would measure how much time it took me to get through each chapter or section. It started out as taking about 3 hours for each part but after a couple of weeks it would take only 15 minutes to read through the same amount of text. It was the same thing when I first started listening to drama CDs. I would have to use my dictionary almost constantly while listening to them and would even have to pause the CD in parts so I could look up words I didn’t know. Now I still have to look up words once in a while but there are some CDs that I can understand completely without using my dictionary even once. It is extremely important to jump in and just start listening or watching things without subtitles or translations, because that is what will really help you learn. It may suck when you get to a part that you just can’t understand, because I know that happened to me a lot in the beginning, but you don’t have to fuss over it, just skip it for the moment and it might makes sense later.
-It’s important to also listen to non-anime/game stuff since normal Japanese doesn’t sound the same. I listened to some radio shows like DGS and watched videos of live events. I also got really into stage plays and musicals in the past year, which I had difficulty understanding at first too, but now I can understand them fine.
Short Version:
-I made kana charts and flash cards, then practiced writing song lyrics in both hiragana and katakana.
-I watched some lessons on youtube ===> [Youtube Link Here]
-I used a dictionary to learn and memorize words I heard in anime, games, etc.
-I reviewed the new words I learned every morning and night.
-I studied the “Japanese Grammar Guide” by Tae Kim.
-I read “Remembering the Kanji” by James W. Heisig and used the “Kanji Stories” app with it. (not sure if this app is still available)
-I use the “JEDict Lite” app to look up kanji, but you need to know stroke order for it to work. [Itunes Link Here]
-I use a Japanese dictionary app made by Bravolol. [Website Link Here]
-After about 3 years, I stopped studying and just started reading visual novels and listening to drama CDs.
-So that has led me to the point I’m at right now. My Japanese skills got better really fast after I started using the language and translating things myself. I am always still learning and wouldn’t say that I am fluent, but I also didn’t expect to be able to understand it this well, so that’s perfectly fine with me. Part of the reason I started doing these translations was because my reading and comprehension skills weren’t at the level that I wanted. It takes another type of skill to translate, so even though I know what they are saying, it is still hard to put it into English, but I’m getting better at it.
-If anyone wants to learn Japanese and wants some tips, I would recommend studying the grammar, vocab, and kanji all at once, rather than how I did it. My kanji skills are still lacking because I started studying it a whole year or two after I started learning the language.
-My other tip is…… Just have fun!! When I first started learning, I would get super happy whenever I heard a word I could understand in a song or anime. When I thought about giving up, it was mainly because I was too focused on trying to rush, but you need to remember that it is impossible to learn an entire language overnight.
-I have heard a lot of other people say they learned the language because they studied it in college or used a textbook, but you can definitely learn it through self-study so don’t give up hope! You just need to find what works for you. ^u^
-Just a random note, Tsukiuta is special to me because it is the very first drama series I started following each month. Although I couldn’t speak any Japanese back then, I followed it for the music. When I started listening to drama CDs, Tsukiuta was at the top of my list and I listened to all of them in the several months before the anime came out, so it was the first drama series I knew that got turned into an anime. It was a super weird feeling seeing the characters animated after only being able to hear them. The very first live stage I watched without subtitles was also the Tsukiuta stage, which got me obsessed with stage plays and musicals. Now it has become the first series that I have translated for other people. (Just my own thought here but I’ve slowly been working on some cosplays, maybe I should make my Rui cosplay first too so it will follow the pattern XD)
-Well that got long but I hope I have motivated someone else to learn the language too! It is still crazy for me to think that 5 years ago I knew absolutely nothing, but I’m translating stuff now. I love being able to give back and help other people, especially since I know how upsetting it is when you want to read or watch something, but there aren’t any subtitles. >x<
-If anyone else has any other questions, feel free to ask! ^u^
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Know THYSELF: The Importance of Knowing who You are, and why this Matters
Subtitle: This super-long post also has some tips somewhere in the end =)
Hi everyone, I hope you are all doing well.
I was gonna post a spiritual log but I got guided to write this, after I reviewed my own stuff aka my natal birth chart, my human design and the gene keys I was born with. To be honest, knowing the self is probably, and in my opinion the best gift you can give your self, as well as others. Because truth be told, some of the most miffing people out there, (based on my experiences) are those who don’t know what they want, if they actually want want they want, or have no idea how to deal with personal issues and stuff because they don’t actually take time to get to know themselves. Inversely, some people are also annoying because they don’t know how to interact with other people, and are too caught-up im in their own worlds to even care or think that they may have hurt other people by being too-self-absorbed. Spoiler alert: I WAS and probably am still on this entire spectrum so I am not saying that I have transcended this whole dilemma and I am better than anyone else. Lol that would be a dream tho, not.
*If you click the links you can get your own charts generated, just add your birth date, exact birth time, and more or less exact birth location, if you wanna learn more stuff down the rabbit hole*
OK, now that the intro-ish stuff has been brought down with, I shall formally start this very long-ish post by writing stuff about why it is important to know your self.
Partial Self-awareness: The myth that you already know everything you know about yourself right now, but some part of you says otherwise.
Well, that sucks right? I mean, no matter how much you say you know what you want or you are completely sure about something major about your self, there is at least a 10% chance that you may have missed a spot. And this normally won’t make itself known until you start forming relationships outside of your own zone: friends, workmates or schoolmates, lovers, mentor-student relationships, even having pets or kids. Normally when we are by ourselves, at the very least we feel a bit more confidence, strength, even some self-love. Because we see ourselves through our own lenses, albeit tinted at times. However, once we start seeing ourselves through the eyes of other people, as well as getting stimuli that are often beyond our realm of control, we often get surprised, and we start acting out of character. And by that I mean out of the character that we thought we knew, in a negative way. Left unchecked, unassessed, or even ignored, this anger or frustration goes on to become triggering mechanisms that would eventually sap us of our good vibes, our zest for life, or even wanting to go out and get some sun, or moon, or stars. In really worst cases, not knowing the self fully can cause self-sabotage in the form of self-doubt, insecurities, jealousy, having zero initiatives, you know, stuff that can make or break relationships. And if you already invested a lot of emotional, financial, and whatever attachment to these things, losing them can really hurt like hell, which leads to more self-sabotaging behaviors, more ruined stuff, and so on. Like a gut-wreching death spiral that only sees death as an end goal.
But don’t worry, it’s not all doom and gloom, for if you know yourself fully, and chose to heal or change what needs to be changed: attitudes, beliefs, mindsets, perspectives, the stuff that relies on your own perceptions, then at least half of the issues become readily solved.
How?
By learning how to recognize patterns of behaviors and responses that were causing the self-sabotage in the first place, and doing stuff to change them so that instead of feeling down and worthless, you instead regain your self-composure, your balance, and most importantly, you become EMPOWERED. YOu grow to become a better version of yourself. See? I told you the importance of this cannot be stressed even more lol.
But seriously... You might start asking “How come I didn’t even know these?”
Well, actually, your conscious monkey brain doesn’t, but your deeper than an iceberg subconscious sure knows. Not that it’s smarter than your conscious or anything. It’s just more powerful though, because it has more storage capacity and won’t budge no matter how many times you do your affirmations or what. Not that I bash affirmations, goodness no, They’re very helpful with proper usage. But the subconscious mind is a lot thicker than your skull, and more often than not everything it has learned won’t just simply go away no matter how much motivational speeches or conscious affirmations you do. Well, for me and a whole bunch of people who bashed the Law of Attraction when we first tried it. Around 90-95% of the trial users lolol I am trying to make the mood happy here ok? Also don’t be angry at your subconscious mind, it’s the reason why you can sing sappy songs while riding a bike or driving your car. It’s also the reason why you could just start making pancakes without needing a book, assuming you have been cooking it all your life. It has some cool skills too, you know. But when it comes to chasing our dreams and our happiness, despite our best and intentioned efforts, the subconscious mind can either help us tremendously or be our biggest hater, basher, and even barrier and blockage.
This is because the subconscious mind has greater capacity, as well as a deeper connection to your outer world. It sucks to know and hear this but yes. After doing subliminals for 2 years and just now getting the hang of it and getting some harsh unwanted results due to my own unresolved issues,yes, this is a very painful truth. And this is where the idea of gaining power by knowing yourself comes to play.
Why?
So you can heal your own wounds. Resolve your own personal issues. Become closer and more connected with other people, in deeper ways. And most importantly, be a better person than ever before. All with the help of your subconscious mind.
*Quick reminder, the subconscious mind can be likened to a recorder. By itself it does only one thing: PLay recorded stuff. Unless you push “Record” in order to change a track in the tape (or memory card yeah I work with both types lolol), it can’t change the stuff that were already written on it, and it will only play whatever tracks are already recorded in it. Forever. Click here to learn more about this dual-sided nature of the subconscious mind and how such changes can affect our genetics, through DNA methylation. Trust me, we learned this stuff back in college and is only appearing out now.*
Yay, the first part of this post is already done! NOw let’s move on to the next two. I shall base my stuff on HUman Design because aside from it working for me, I haven’t seen anything like it that helped me learn even more about myself, amybe a lot deeper than getting natal birth charts. Not an expert but you can check the materials here. It’s one big rabbit hole if you wanna read more into it. You’ll need your human design chart though.
There are two ways of learning who we truly are: learn directly or indirectly.
1. Learning who the self is, directly.
*If you already got your human design chart, please check if you’re a Generator: Pure Generator or a Manifesting Generator (has the 20-34 channel connected, throat to sacral center aka the red square in the belly part of your diagram) because this is for you. All other types are in #2, but since this is for you to learn who you are, or who you are not, you can read this part too*
Well, that should be easy, right? Well, yeah, easy on paper, but not gonna lie it’s quite challenging to do in real life. BEcause learning how to do it involves a lot of taking risks, gaining new experiences, meeting new people, going to new places, and all that enrichment stuff. BAsically going out of your comfort zone. I’m not saying you should abandon all your core values here. But if you’re only not wanting to do something because you’re scared (i.e. you are uninitiated with meeting new people through dating apps) and not because you’re going against your personal values (i.e. being forced by a bunch of friends to go on a date with someone that harassed you when you already stood your ground and asserted yourself to this person), well the former is a component of your comfort zone and should be expanded, by all means.
Basically, just be open to new and expansion-making experiences. Doesn’t need to be grand. You can start with going back to old hobbies, adding new skillsets to those you already have, read books that you normally wouldn’t read, stuff like that. Or expand your current knowledge on what you already know.
You can also start from scratch, learn something new, or try out something that scares the heck out of you, like learning trigonometry or advanced calculus, or learning the mechanisms of cell-signalling cascades lolol not kidding there though. Meet new people in classes, events, or just try participating in online forums as a noob. Watch a movie that you didn’t wanna watch and never did because of all the bad reviews, but this time with an open mind and heart.
Or do someting cathartic, like CLEANING. Clean your house, clean your inboxes, clean your friends list, your phone contacts, and don’t forget to clean your mind of the subconscious garbage, because seriously that’s a lot more hard work than unfriending a bunch of people lolol but I am serious here. People uinderestimate the energizing effects of cleaning, because it literally removes energetic cords, it clears the energetic field (yours) and I have to tell you that as a person who just moved into a new place, seriously cleaning is both an annoying and a rewarding experience. It can help you assess your values in life, what matters most to you, and what makes you happy. Even before Marie Kondo started her stuff, I was already doing this since college. That was almost a lifetime ago. Dang I feel old, and fabulous lol.
But then you might ask, “WHy am I doing this, exactly?”
So you can learn what you like and don’t like. What gives you joy and what doesn’t. What makes you happy and what makes you feel effed up. Not that it gives a more solid self-identity, but rather it allows you to be fluid, and gives you a chance to be on both sides of the fence. So that you can give better opinions and suggestions. But at the same time also empathetic to the ideas of people on the other side of the fence. You can even be a better friend or lover or companion who can spread your joy and love, especially since Generators have the type of aura that is welcoming and energizing to others (my Projector friend told me so, she feels great after we had our gabfest and after I give her card readings. lolol shameless self-promo). Comprising roughly 70% something of the world’s population, if all of the generators consistently do their best in knowing who they truly are, miracles can happen, and there would be less annoyance and frustration, and more satisfaction in our daily lives. In turn, we get to channel more high vibrational energies to everyone else on the planet. As a Generator like you (I’m actually a Manifesting Generator, still same more or less), this is our gift: to share others our enduring strength by energizing ourselves as well as the people around us. Which is why seriously, now is the best time to be open on both sides because in the midst of all the current (and probably will only escalate more) chaos, you only need your inner guide, your personal compass, and knowing that you are confident with your choices because YOU had the actual experience only makes you even more powerful, because you can truly speak from the heart. Not everyone can do that, because the other people who are scared to take this leap just stay on one side for their entire lives. You’re born to be better and stronger than that, so just do it. (Or not, just trust your gut. We are gut peeps lolol no really, that’s part of our design) Also, based on your design (a defined aka solid sacral center, the square under the diamond shape) you have more than the usual capacity to endure, and to allow things to happen for you based on your gut instincts. Even when the going gets tough.
Additional important note: As Generators (the workforce of the world lol but yeah really), because our sacral centers are defined aka solid (especially when combined with a defined solar plexus center aka a yellow triangle at the right side of the square) this means that we innately have a strong sense of self: who we are and what we want, or don’t want. Or we don’t easily get influenced, even if we were conditioned to be. Thus, our power lies in knowing who we are, and knowing who we are gives us consistency, reliability, and ultimately satisfaction in our choices and decisions. That is how we generate our power, by following our gut feelings and following through till we complete our task or goal. After finishing it beautifully as expected (of us lol), it gives us a wonderful sense of completion, and it makes us feel great about ourselves. We trust ourselves better. And this is a form of self-mastery that can really give you peace. However, self-doubt, not following through, or not asserting ourselves takes away our precious power, which leaves us drained, exhausted, burnt-out, angry and frustrated, well, basically stuff that leads to depression and not to mention a really weak physique, and we really need to have a strong body for all of our motor centers aka the stuff that helps make things happen) to be at tip-top shape. This whole shite happened to me way back because I just kept myself getting trampled even though I was already unhappy with my work and how I was being treated, all for the sake of getting some cash. I basically gave my power and self-worth away, and I ended up with a really horrible (now a somewhat chronic) back pain (I am currently having this condition as I type this now. It popped up due to my need to release anger, see previous Thought log lol) and even deeper depression. While it may take us a bit shorter time to recover compared to other types, it still sucks that we have to stay in recovery, and in a whole lot of pain. So preventing burnout by doing what we love (that’s where we get even more energies to do a whole truckload of work) and attaining a strong sense of self-satisfaction and self-love is really what we need to push ourselves towards self-improvement and to attain a more fulfilling and magical life.
Basically, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. That’s exactly my point.
2. Learning who the self is, indirectly
*Check your chart if you’re a Manifestor, a Projector, or a Reflector, this is for you. Sorry if the stuff won’t be as rich as the previous one since I have more experiences as a Generator, Also I based these on some Projectors I know lol haven’t met an actual Manifestor or Reflector they’re like around 9% and 1% of the population respectively, so if you’re either, please don’t hesitate to say HI. But if you’re a Generator, especially a Manifesting Generator, feel free to read lol*
So if you happen to read the entire segment on Generators, and you’re not one, I’ll give you a pat on the back (or hugs if you want), that was a lot of stuff to read. And it isn’t even for you. But ironically, if you happened to read it, then you just did some learning about yourself INDIRECTLY. TA-DAH!
But I am not making a bamboozle here. What I said was something that many people actually base or formulate their own opinions with. By interacting with others, they learn more about themselves by hearing many perspectives, churning them into their own brand of butter, and eventually formulating something out of it. Unless you’re a Manifestor, you just say the word and people make your butter lolol yeah really.
But seriously, for people with this method of learning about the self based on outside sources is even better and more effective than trying to figure out things on their own. Having the opinion or experiences of others (most-likely a Generator because there’s more of us lolol the power of Statistics) is a better option in learning (i.e. you watch what experts do instead of doing all of the available options out there by yourself) than trying out what works because having to do stuff through a process of trial and error can actually put an energetic strain on these three types. While Generators can do all of that trial and error thingy because of their scarily solid willpower and their strong energy centers aka the sacral center, because this is not defined aka clear and white as a ghost for Manifestors, Projectors and Reflector types, it means that whatever energies you already had will be readily depleted, and recovery can take a long time, even when you feel like you exerted only a little effort. Trust me when I say that what you did was more than enough if you felt like you just wanna lay down and sleep for the entire day, or week.
If you’re wondering how I had in idea on why this is so, well...
I don’t know about the other two types since I don’t personally know of any Manifestor or Reflector, but I guess having a Projector younger brother who gets exhausted playing games if he tries to figure stuff on his own and a Projector friend who gets easily drained after getting duped by other people to become a sounding board and later regrets it before ending up in a daze really helps me better understand open sacral center types a bit better. I just compare them to myself in similar situations, and assessing what happens to them after I give them a piece of my mind or whatever. For my brother, aside from watching video tutorials or reading GameFaqs (lol) based on whether I watched him play or not, just chatting with him while he slays demons, monsters, or whatever he’s playing at the moment sorta extends his play time by about 30mins at least compared to when I don’t appear around him to watch. He’s probably unaware though lolol BUt my Projector friend who is also one of my Soul Sisters and is quite familiar with Human Design (because I pushed her to get an overiew aka me explaining her chart to her and she actually realizing how legit the whole thing is lolol Manifesting Generator issues hahaha) actually tells me that each time we chat on the phone, she gets readily-grounded and energized, as well as having a better sense of herself after the call. I won’t exactly know if it’s because of me being a Generator who naturally does it, or because she gets free extended readings (lolol again, shameless self-promo here), or just the combination of getting her questions answered as well as getting her energetic fix. She just tells me that she feels depleted at the beginning of the call, after geting caught up and too-anxious on thinking what to do, why things happen, basically the mind starts running so fast But then she gets super-excited and revived during and before ending the call, because she receives clarity on what she needs to do, even if it makes no sense to me logically. And I weirdly after that can still go on and gab some more, I sometimes even do chores after that.
So what is the point of this segment about Projectors?
Well, it has two points:
Sometimes it is easier to walk the pavement than make it. Unless you’re a Manifestor who initiates things. But (then again, this just means that they’ll make the layout, the others will just do the manual labor) they can only do so much with their own power, and it would be a bit helpful for them to ask aid from other people like filling in the other “back-end” stuff that needs to be done aka follow through with the details. Being humble and telling people what you plan to do, how it can be done, and putting trust on other people that they will do it the best way they can with their power (because probably they’re Generators lol), can revitalize your energy and creative ideas. Same for Projectors, it is better to just create a plan, and assuming that people were already on board with your plan (because your abilities got recognized, your ideas didn’t get rejected and you felt great) to manage people who can do it through delegation and division of labor (they’re probably Generators because again, statistics lolol honestly I wanna be a Manifestor but nope), and just rest. Sorry, I can’t say much about Reflectors though, but I believe that they need a long time to ruminate things and decide, or else they’ll end up being disappointed with their choices and feeling even more disempowered.
Learning about other people’s opinions, knowledge and experiences can be rewarding because you not only learn about your own needs in a deeper sense through sifting and distilling of the information carefully, but also by having an idea on what makes the people around you tick. This can help you become really good at catching on their current states, which can improve your communication and rapport with them. It also makes them more receptive of you, especially if you’re a Manifestor because let’s face it, you can be quite intimidating and seem angry all the time (or so they say). It also saves the Projector a lot of disappointment due to rejection because they gain a better sense of not pushing their output into the faces of the people and instead waiting for the right chance aka getting recognized and invited by others to share their stuff. Trust me, a lot of people just wanna share their own unsolicited opinions and advices and while some can take the heat when rejected, others just cannot and it is hard for them to let go, to the point that they think it is a personal attack. Hint: it’s not.
In Conclusion: There is no right or wrong way to know more about your true self.
Any method can actually work for any type, just as long as you don’t feel threatened, compromised, or be under so much stress. Just remember to work with what you’re designed with: Generators can do the trial-and-error thingy, and Manifestors, Projectors and Reflectors can go for other people for their input and other kinds of information sharing so that a consensus can be reached aka you'll get to know better if something is for you or not based on whether you like it or not. Also, you don’t have to rush things (ahem, GENERATORS, AHEM), sometimes going with the flow is just as important as paddling, sometimes it’s even better and gives more magical results.
I hope this super long-post helped you in any way. I did whatever I can within my knowledge and intuition so that this post can be made. If even just one person helps this make their lives better, then this is all worth it.
Thank you very much for reading. Any comment, suggestions, even just a short reply are most welcome. If it helped you in any way, I would love to hear about it.
Be well always, and may you find the healing you seek.
With love and hugs from Source above,
三日月 🌙
Mikazuki
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July 24 Dancitron Movie Night - Titanic
Basically everyone hated the main characters. Most of the room was disappointed in how many of them survived. Swoop seems to have never figured out that they weren’t, in fact, watching Twister.
Prowl went to a dark place after the movie. It probably doesn’t help that, after the movie, he asked to see the entire real-time two hour and forty minute CGI reconstruction of the Titanic sinking. And then sat there and watched the entire thing.
ItsyBitsySpyers 7:35 pm *Soundwave sets a folded up tarp behind himself before he gets comfortable in his usual spot. It's gonna be a long night.* FakeProwl 7:35 pm *look who's here early tonight* Bevel 7:36 pm *trundles in and to what's become her usual seat* ItsyBitsySpyers 7:36 pm *Soundwave pings Prowl hello and nods.* *And then does the same to Bevel.* Bevel 7:36 pm *waves to Soundwave and Prowl* FakeProwl 7:36 pm *nods back. very polite and professional. and cool and calm.* boomtank 7:37 pm -and Blaster is just going to wander in now- Bevel 7:38 pm *waves to Blaster* ItsyBitsySpyers 7:38 pm *Is surprised by Blaster's early appearance. Hello bob, same's the others.* boomtank 7:38 pm -tired wave to both- ((mun has to pick up Primus in about half an hour, otherwise I'd be letting Unicron do it FakeProwl 7:41 pm *Prowl's not entirely sure, as he hasn't been playing the closest attention, but this MIGHT be the best pre-movie music channel Soundwave has played thus far.* ItsyBitsySpyers 7:41 pm *There are others he'd like to play, but silly Earthlings don't always make sure their channels are functional 24/7. This one IS good though.* ((is that a specsdragon i see)) ((and say hi to primus and unicron for me o/ )) Small Furry Dragon 7:42 pm ((hi it is me)) FakeProwl 7:43 pm ((*waves)) Small Furry Dragon 7:43 pm ((I finally get to sit in ur channel and pat ur zori)) boomtank 7:43 pm ((Unicron is over my shoulder and waved at the screen Bevel 7:44 pm *has shifted to a more modern train alt mode so she fits the uniend/aligned aesthetic a bit more than usual. she's still mostly purple with blue tho because those colors are awesome fight her* ((heya ooc peeps FakeProwl 7:45 pm ((*waves at unicron too*)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:45 pm ((starting in 15 so y'all get snacks or whatever you need)) FakeProwl 7:45 pm ((will brb with food)) FakeProwl 7:55 pm ((brb'ed with food)) Impact 7:56 pm ((Soooo, what's the movie? :3)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:56 pm ((Titanic)) Small Furry Dragon 7:57 pm *puts out some energon cookies for the movies* *retreats to a nice corner for the duration* Bevel 7:58 pm ((i saw titanic in theater when i was teeny Impact 7:58 pm ((i've never actually seen it!)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:59 pm *Soundwave notices cookies he didn't add to the snacks have appeared on the bar. Knowing it's been a while since Zori's had any, he calls Zori down with the others. Poor big bug is gonna probably sit there nibbling on them most of the night.* FakeProwl 7:59 pm ((i saw it during a movie day in high school. i tuned out the whole thing. probably to write fic, im sure.)) Shockwave 7:59 pm ((Ah, found the right tab. Hello there.)) Impact 7:59 pm ((I don't know if i'll last the whole movie because sleeepy)) ((at least impact already knows the titanic sinks)) ItsyBitsySpyers 7:59 pm ((OKAY SO HERE'S THE WARNINGS: I don't really know. I adore y'all but I ain't watching a 3 hour movie twice in 24 hours to screen. There's partial nudity at some point, death, classist junk, and idk what else.)) Bevel 8:00 pm ((it's the titanic story but with random ocs as the stars instead of any of the awesome real life ppl basically Impact 8:00 pm *Is immediately distracted by Zori's presence when she comes in* Zori! 3:D ItsyBitsySpyers 8:01 pm *Zori pauses with a cookie halfway to his mouth and blinks his visor. Oh! It is the Impact.* #hello FakeProwl 8:01 pm ((im not used to hearing this song without a recorder)) ItsyBitsySpyers 8:01 pm ((LOL)) Bevel 8:01 pm ((lol Impact 8:01 pm *Holds up her arms. Hugs okay?* Hi! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:01 pm ((also, a belated hi to Shockbox!)) Impact 8:01 pm ((sis remembers seeing this in theater)) ItsyBitsySpyers 8:01 pm *...Yeah, okay. He'll hug her. It's nice to still get hugs like this.* Impact 8:02 pm *hugs!* FakeProwl 8:02 pm ((ye, shockbox! it's been a while)) Small Furry Dragon 8:02 pm ((thank for subtitles! much appreciated!)) ItsyBitsySpyers 8:03 pm ((np, they're always there unless i forget - i use 'em too)) Shockwave 8:03 pm ((It has indeed! I suppose I should let you all know that I've sort of changed blogs-- I'm doing a shitposting thing now, with normal roleplaying in between.)) ItsyBitsySpyers 8:03 pm *Soundwave pulls his legs up onto the couch and prepares for what he's heard is a good cautionary tale.* Shockwave 8:04 pm *He makes an entrance, joining tonight for a reasons similar to Soundwave's motive.* Swoop 8:04 pm *RETURNS FROM THE GYM BOTH IC AND OOC FOR MAXIMUM DINO-SMELLINESS* Small Furry Dragon 8:04 pm *the dragon fluffs themselves and curls up, their snout poking out from between their paws. time to movie! and keep sneaking appreciative peeks at the Zori enjoying their cookies.* Shockwave 8:05 pm *Oh good, everything is pungent.* FakeProwl 8:05 pm *Gives considering look to Soundwave's pulled up legs. If HE can get away with it...* boomtank 8:05 pm -Blaster is on the OTHER side of the room when he spots Shockwave- FakeProwl 8:05 pm *... No. Better not. Slouches forward and chinhands.* Swoop 8:05 pm *literally rolls head over stupid ptero-butt in front of the screen* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:05 pm //Down in front!// Impact 8:05 pm *plops next to Zori* Bevel, come sit with us! Swoop 8:06 pm :V Shockwave 8:06 pm *Once again, that particular Blaster seems strongly dedicated to avoiding him. Shockwave has grown accustomed to this.* Swoop 8:06 pm *the crest doesn't go down???? that far??* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:06 pm *Soundwave nods at Shockwave, then huffs, amused by the tiny little swimming thing.* FakeProwl 8:06 pm *Oh. Swoop.* Shockwave 8:06 pm *Shockwave returns that nod and takes his place.* FakeProwl 8:06 pm *murmurs to Soundwave* How much combat is in this movie? *because it doesn't exactly look like a war movie* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:06 pm [[Claws to yourself today, Swoop, or you will go out again.]] Swoop 8:06 pm Me Swoop am better door than window :> boomtank 8:07 pm -May be a bit biased against Shockwaves- Bevel 8:07 pm *considers Impact and Zori a moment before getting up and moving as carefully as her bulky butt will allow, hope no one small is sitting behind them* Swoop 8:07 pm *rolls on his back and kicks his tiny stupid bird feet in the air* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:07 pm @Prowl: (txt): ...Not combat movie. That, next week. Impact 8:07 pm Spooky FakeProwl 8:07 pm *mutters* Which means Swoop is going to be insufferable. *quiet sigh* Shockwave 8:07 pm *Fairly biased, Shockwave would think. They are on opposing sides, though Shockwave can't imagine what another version of himself did to inspire a revulsion quite that intense.* Small Furry Dragon 8:07 pm *someone small is too busy having their vision blocked by Swoop. hope Impact and Bevel don't mind a furry friend coming to join them.* Swoop 8:07 pm This floaty movie. Us go OUT and do floaty thing instead 😃 😃 😃 Shockwave 8:07 pm *...Not that he's very motivated to find out.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:08 pm *Zori pats the dragon hello. It's nice to have company.* Bevel 8:08 pm *furry friends are definitely allowed* Swoop 8:08 pm in space "snoop vision" keheheh snoop boomtank 8:08 pm -Let's just say alot- ItsyBitsySpyers 8:08 pm @Prowl: (txt): Will call distraction tactic if needed later. Swoop 8:08 pm *is the distraction tactic bird? let it be bird. he wants to see bird* Shockwave 8:09 pm *Well, if drama needs to happen, the mun now knows who to direct attention to.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:09 pm *Maybe.* Small Furry Dragon 8:09 pm *the dragon purrs and curls back up again. this is much better!* FakeProwl 8:09 pm Appreciated. Impact 8:09 pm *Furry friends are great!* Swoop 8:09 pm *literally only puts up with these boring movies for the chance at making bird laugh with awful jokes* Bevel 8:09 pm *zori is big enough that petting him would not require her to be extremely careful hmmmm* Impact 8:09 pm eeeew wet stuff ItsyBitsySpyers 8:09 pm [[Disgusting.]] Swoop 8:10 pm Keheheh Sludge come back to cave, look like that! Sometimes :> Shockwave 8:10 pm *Shockwave finds himself quite intrigued by the small furry dragon, aware that one of his alternates specializes in dragon-esque creatures.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:10 pm [[As he said. Disgusting.]] Shockwave 8:10 pm *He just stares at it while listening to the movie.* Swoop 8:11 pm Sludge pretty gross Him name SLUDGE keheheh boomtank 8:11 pm ((annnnd I gotta go pick up Primus Swoop 8:11 pm Because Him dumb and also smelly gross keheheheh Small Furry Dragon 8:12 pm *the dragon gently ignores the staring. Shockwaves do what they do, but this dragon is much too small and much better at baking than battling.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:12 pm //Maybe they oughta spray 'im with a hose.// Swoop 8:12 pm TRIED! Him too big keheh You shoot one side, him roll other side into new puddle! Impact 8:13 pm Dun dun! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:13 pm [[...She must be ancient for a human.]] Swoop 8:13 pm OH! Me Swoop know that human. Actor human. Know him. Because. Him fight tornados and monsters :> Him pretty cool Him die a lot Soundwave, this fight movie? :> FakeProwl 8:14 pm She looks old. Older humans have extra baggy skin. It has a lot of folds. Impact 8:14 pm They get wrinkly! Swoop 8:15 pm Her in wheelchair Shockwave 8:15 pm *Lack of fighting ability does not quite inspire disinterest, but it may lead his curiosity to run out faster than usual.* Swoop 8:15 pm Him Chip have wheelchair Wheeljack say Him make BETTER one but, keheh, Chip say no no no thank you! Him say no exploding, thanks kehehehhehehh Shockwave 8:16 pm *Though he ponders the small dragon's origin, he turns his focus back to the film after not too long.* Impact 8:16 pm *giggles* a dish! Small Furry Dragon 8:17 pm *whispers* Well-plated food can be pretty. Prettier than naked humans. *preens* Swoop 8:17 pm When tornado attack, Soundwave? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:17 pm [[No tornadoes. It is a sea adventure.]] Impact 8:17 pm naked humans look weird Swoop 8:17 pm SEA tornato *tornado Impact 8:18 pm i like food better! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:18 pm [[-Why- does their skin fold?]] Small Furry Dragon 8:18 pm I don't understand why they have fur on their heads, but nowhere else. It's weird. *gapes in a dragon smile* I like food better too. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:18 pm [[Is it a protective measure?]] FakeProwl 8:19 pm *ooh. forensic reconstruction of a wreck.* Impact 8:19 pm I think it stops being stretchy so it wrinkles! Shockwave 8:20 pm *That part seemed actually educational, if a bit...crudely presented.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:20 pm [[Strange.]] Swoop 8:21 pm That a long time ItsyBitsySpyers 8:21 pm *Slow lean.* Bevel 8:21 pm Oh this is a human historical record. Impact 8:21 pm this movie has pretty music! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:22 pm *Leans forward. Is that a--* [[Old Earth vehicles. Fascinating.]] Swoop 8:22 pm When them fight each other for rock? Impact 8:22 pm It was red! Bevel 8:22 pm *watching the cars* Swoop 8:23 pm Swoop could sink :> Dinobots could sink :> FakeProwl 8:23 pm I'm so glad we didn't land on Earth back then. Swoop 8:23 pm That boat not so tough Shockwave 8:23 pm *"God himself could not sink this ship," Ah. Blatant irony.* Swoop 8:23 pm Seaspray boat. Him not tough. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:23 pm *Soundwave looks over at Prowl and resumes his slow tip in that direction.* [[Why?]] FakeProwl 8:24 pm Imagine me turning into one of those. Small Furry Dragon 8:24 pm *the dragon blinks at the "health inspection"* What an odd thing. Windchill 8:24 pm (( Jfc this film. )) Bevel 8:24 pm I went to an Earth before this. It was cool. Swoop 8:24 pm Her hat big FakeProwl 8:24 pm *cringes at the ship horn* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:24 pm //Y'know Seaspray useta be a Wrecker, right, Swoop?// Windchill 8:24 pm *Slinks in, late as usual.* Swoop 8:24 pm Seaspray sucks. Me Swoop could snap in half. No hands! Glub glub ItsyBitsySpyers 8:25 pm *Soundwave tries to imagine Prowl as one of those cars.* Swoop 8:25 pm *is here to do two things: impress Bird and murder fish* *sadly, neither are present* Windchill 8:25 pm *Takes a seat near the back.* *points* Horses. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:26 pm [[They may be outdated, but they have an appeal.]] Small Furry Dragon 8:27 pm *the dragon is more confused now* Lice? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:27 pm *Rumble waves over his shoulder at Windchill.* Bevel 8:27 pm Bugs. Impact 8:27 pm bugs that go on heads! FakeProwl 8:27 pm They're so hollow, though. All Earth vehicles are, of course, but these are even worse. Windchill 8:27 pm *Windchill appears to be thinking.* FakeProwl 8:28 pm The engine block is solid enough, but I feel like the rest of it would snap in half trying to transform. Bevel 8:28 pm You would need a really small bot to make a car like those. Windchill 8:28 pm *It's an illusion. He points at Rumble.* Not-horse. Swoop 8:28 pm Them run over little boat next time :V Bevel 8:28 pm *holds her hands up* Really thin. Windchill 8:28 pm *And that's that.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:28 pm [[He manages well enough.]] Gestures to himself. Tags it as humor. FakeProwl 8:28 pm *glances at Soundwave. Manages to not quite smile.* ... Fair enough. Small Furry Dragon 8:28 pm Don't they have ways to clean their fur? We have sprays for that. But more ice too, I think. Impact 8:29 pm *giggles* Picasso! Windchill 8:29 pm Who gets out all of their paintings to decorate a ship cabin when it's so...temporary? Impact 8:29 pm he becomes a big thing! Windchill 8:29 pm *Rich people wtf.* Swoop 8:29 pm *tries to bite his own toes* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:29 pm [[A rich human, he supposes.]] Windchill 8:30 pm *Shakes his head.* Swoop 8:30 pm *is going to eat his own feet, just you wait* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:30 pm *He's not taking the blame if they have to send a footless Swoop back to Ratchet* Windchill 8:30 pm *Well THAT'S a spectacle.* Impact 8:30 pm oooh Windchill 8:30 pm *He'll bet Swoop has stinky feets anyway.* Shockwave 8:31 pm *Leaning forward at this display.* Swoop 8:31 pm *has a stinky everything* Small Furry Dragon 8:31 pm *gapes at the ship's workings* ...Wow ItsyBitsySpyers 8:31 pm [[So this is how human ships work.]] Windchill 8:31 pm *A stinky BUTT too.* FakeProwl 8:31 pm *when's the ship crash. he wants to see the exact process of this beast going down.* Impact 8:31 pm cool! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:31 pm *Not for a while, sadly.* Swoop 8:31 pm JUMP! Bevel 8:31 pm I want to watch the ship work more. Impact 8:31 pm Me too! Small Furry Dragon 8:31 pm Me too! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:31 pm [[Primus, no, jumping would be terrible.]] [[It'd be COLD.]] Windchill 8:31 pm Don't get too attached. Swoop 8:31 pm Me Swoop fly by water before. It fun :> ItsyBitsySpyers 8:31 pm *Shudder.* Small Furry Dragon 8:31 pm *the dragon giggles a little* I guess we spoke at the same time. FakeProwl 8:32 pm They're high enough the impact with the water might kill them. Impact 8:32 pm hee! Swoop 8:32 pm Go low low close to water It IS fun :V Boat hit fish!!! keheheh dead Windchill 8:32 pm They're not fish! *OUTRAGE* Swoop 8:32 pm They fish ItsyBitsySpyers 8:32 pm [[What are they?]] Windchill 8:32 pm Porpoises. Impact 8:32 pm dolphins? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:32 pm [[They're very sleek.]] FakeProwl 8:32 pm *those are obviously fish but Prowl is not getting in a fight with Windchill, of all people, about it* Swoop 8:32 pm You a porpoises keheh Windchill 8:33 pm They eat fish. Swoop 8:33 pm Fish dumb Windchill 8:33 pm Fine, I'll be a porpoise. Swoop 8:33 pm Kay! Windchill 8:33 pm *Squeaks.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:34 pm [[That... is a very large ship.]] Windchill 8:34 pm *He's watched too many documentaries about sea life okay. He had to say something. Not fish.* *snorts* Swoop 8:34 pm Me Swoop can do that :> Blow smoke ItsyBitsySpyers 8:35 pm *Dislikes the Cal human already.* Windchill 8:35 pm *Rolls his optics.* Impact 8:35 pm *giggles at the freud comment* Small Furry Dragon 8:35 pm Glaciers aren't stable, and they're very big. *the dragon fluffs a bit* Bevel 8:35 pm *laughs* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:35 pm *And more.* Whirl 8:35 pm
FakeProwl 8:35 pm *grimaces. Who is this human Freud and why does his name sound like—* Impact 8:35 pm Hi whirl! Windchill 8:35 pm *GET OUT OF HERE WHIRL.* FakeProwl 8:35 pm *never mind it* Windchill 8:36 pm *STOP SPYING ON US* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:36 pm [[Do sit down, Whirl.]] Whirl 8:36 pm *bobs his head* Yo, Impact. Swoop 8:36 pm Him drawy bot Bevel 8:36 pm *waves to Whirl* Swoop 8:36 pm Like Sunstreaker Whirl 8:36 pm *time for more bobbin* And Shovel. Small Furry Dragon 8:36 pm *politely lifts paw and waves at Whirl* FakeProwl 8:36 pm *points* Those two are going to have a romance plot based on absolutely nothing but physical attraction to each other, and it's going to be annoying. Windchill 8:37 pm Ew. Impact 8:37 pm bluuuuh Windchill 8:37 pm Parties. I hate them. Whirl 8:37 pm ...*stares at the. Small furry... dragon? And, figuring it's just as well, bobs his helm back* FakeProwl 8:37 pm You can tell because he looked at her for three seconds and somebody said he won't be able to stand next to her. Swoop 8:37 pm Her have red hair ItsyBitsySpyers 8:37 pm *Counterpoints.* [[The Cal human is trying to control her. That is no better.]] Bevel 8:37 pm Ew. Swoop 8:37 pm Cool :> Small Furry Dragon 8:37 pm *the dragon laughs at prowl's comment* Impact 8:37 pm The Cal human is gross Whirl 8:37 pm *enters at last and makes his way for a seat near Windchill* Windchill 8:38 pm *Side eyes Whirl. He sees u.* FakeProwl 8:38 pm Oh, no, all of the people around her are atrociously annoying. Bevel 8:38 pm Sparkly dress. Whirl 8:38 pm *side eyes back* FakeProwl 8:38 pm But we're SUPPOSED to find them atrociously annoying, which makes it tolerable. Windchill 8:38 pm SHE'S atrociously annoying. Whirl 8:38 pm All of you are atrociously annoying. Swoop 8:38 pm JUMP :V Windchill 8:38 pm Thanks! We try. Whirl 8:38 pm I'M atrociously annoying. Bevel 8:38 pm Blowing smoke in people's face is rude. Windchill 8:38 pm Except me. Impact 8:38 pm Swoop! FakeProwl 8:38 pm Whereas we're going to be expected to enjoy the love story. Swoop 8:38 pm :> Windchill 8:38 pm *he leans back.* Whirl 8:38 pm The only creature free of guilt is Killer. Small Furry Dragon 8:38 pm Do humans make sequins out of insect carapace, too? Windchill 8:38 pm It comes naturally to me. Swoop 8:38 pm Cliff diving fun Her go Feel better ItsyBitsySpyers 8:39 pm //If they don't, they oughta.// Swoop 8:39 pm Because SPLASH FakeProwl 8:39 pm *... is she going to try to swim back to land* Swoop 8:39 pm Me Swoop push Snarl off cliff one time Whirl 8:39 pm Pfft. Yeah. Cliff diving. Swoop 8:39 pm it AWESOME SPLAAAAAASSHH!!! Keheh Both JUMP! Windchill 8:39 pm *Fakes a yawn.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:39 pm [[He could have thrown that from where he was.]] Swoop 8:40 pm Yah, both jump Windchill 8:40 pm Short movie. Swoop 8:40 pm Pchoo FakeProwl 8:40 pm *... oh. that's why she's up there.* Windchill 8:40 pm *She's weak.* FakeProwl 8:40 pm *mumbles* If she's so determined to jump, let her. You don't know her reasons. Small Furry Dragon 8:40 pm *ah, yes. water is cold, water is wet. speaking the obvious, there.* Swoop 8:41 pm Her bad at jumping Him push Whirl 8:41 pm Pfft. That's the way to do it. Windchill 8:41 pm They keep talking about cold. *he drapes an arm over his forehead.* Small Furry Dragon 8:41 pm *the dragon yawns. cold water is a fact of life.* Whirl 8:41 pm Almost as cold as you. Windchill 8:41 pm Me? Impact 8:42 pm Even if it's a dumb love story I'm gonna be sad when the ship sinks 3:( Swoop 8:42 pm Her bad at jump. Him bad at grab. Small Furry Dragon 8:42 pm It's a pretty ship. Swoop 8:42 pm Everyone sucks. When tornado come, Soundwave? Windchill 8:42 pm I could be a lot warmer. Swoop 8:42 pm KAHAH! Small Furry Dragon 8:43 pm I suppose this is more dramatic for people without wings. Whirl 8:43 pm *nods* Or people who aren't waterproof. Swoop 8:43 pm What them mad for? 😕 Whirl 8:43 pm Pfft, way to stick up for the guy. Seems a bit too little, too late. Impact 8:44 pm *scoffs* Swoop 8:44 pm Her Carly beat Him up Windchill 8:44 pm *Whispers.* Impact 8:44 pm 'women and machinery" WHAT A DUMB ItsyBitsySpyers 8:44 pm *Catches the mumble and thinks back to Prowl 's request back when he had the pipe through his head. ... Not a thought for now. Saves that for later.* Small Furry Dragon 8:44 pm *the dragon just bares their teeth* Humans are weird. Windchill 8:44 pm Whirl. Sit on me. Bevel 8:44 pm Humans are dumb. Whirl 8:44 pm *whispers back* No. I'll put my feet on you, at best. I don't do the sitting. FakeProwl 8:45 pm Why did she wait until AFTER he'd been handcuffed to come up with the story? Whirl 8:45 pm Exactly! Windchill 8:45 pm I'll take what I can get. Whirl 8:45 pm You'd think she could've stopped them right away. Windchill 8:45 pm Because she's selfish and stupid. Bevel 8:45 pm Maybe she was upset about almost dying? Small Furry Dragon 8:45 pm She could have bitten someone. He could have bitten someone. Whirl 8:45 pm THAT's no big deal at all! FakeProwl 8:46 pm Ah. Of course. Shock. Impact 8:46 pm oh! the mirror! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:46 pm [[And there's no tornado, Swoop. There is something else.]] [[Be patient.]] Swoop 8:46 pm *transforms and rolls over onto his belly* FakeProwl 8:46 pm It EXPLAINED what there is at the start of the movie. Whirl 8:46 pm *scoots his chair back, lifts his legs, and settles his feet on Windchill* Swoop 8:46 pm Me Swoop want to see moo cow go flying keheheh Windchill 8:46 pm *Rumbles.* Thanks man, I feel so much warmer now. *Sarcasm? Who knows.* FakeProwl 8:47 pm *mutters* For the people who were paying attention. Impact 8:47 pm I was paying attention! ItsyBitsySpyers 8:47 pm [[Except the ability to make her own choices, apparently.]] Whirl 8:47 pm If my feet get cold, I'm taking them back. FakeProwl 8:47 pm If there's nothing he couldn't give her then why doesn't he give her a little bit of dignity. Windchill 8:47 pm Okay. I've been warned. Small Furry Dragon 8:47 pm Where I come from, girls eat men who try to control them. Whirl 8:48 pm That's a good way of handling that sort of thing. People who wanna control you. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:48 pm =I approve.= Whirl 8:48 pm I suppose maiming will do, if eating isn't an option? Bevel 8:48 pm Eat the rich jerk, Rose. Impact 8:49 pm *giggles madly because eating the rich* Whirl 8:49 pm Why the hell would she bring it up if she doesn't wanna talk to him about it? Small Furry Dragon 8:49 pm Our goddess did that, they say. Well, ate a god. I'm not sure he was rich. *wiggles wings in kind of a shrug* I guess we're not made to be controlled. Windchill 8:50 pm Crush her hand. Damn it. Whirl 8:50 pm Nice. I don't think my goddess ever ate anyone. Not really her schtick. What's yours called? Windchill 8:50 pm She's almost as bad as her beau. Whirl 8:50 pm *antenna pins back briefly and he shoots a Look at Windchill* FakeProwl 8:50 pm They're obnoxious and I can't stand either of them. Windchill 8:51 pm *Side eyes Whirl* *What.* Impact 8:51 pm boooooobs Small Furry Dragon 8:51 pm We only have the one. She's just the Goddess. I think the Cousins have a name for her, but my kind doesn't. Whirl 8:52 pm Huh. Interesting. Windchill 8:52 pm *Whatever, then.* Bevel 8:52 pm Rude. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:52 pm [[Two minutes ago she was insulting him.]] *Shakes his helm.* Swoop 8:53 pm Them hats big :> Like bird kehehehehh Bird with flowers Bevel 8:53 pm *giggles* Whirl 8:53 pm *peers* Is that the lady? From... hmm. Windchill 8:53 pm I think so. Misery? Was that it? Whirl 8:53 pm Yeah! Windchill 8:53 pm I forget. Bevel 8:53 pm Misery? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:53 pm [[Her voice print matches.]] Whirl 8:53 pm *nods* She sounds like her, yep. FakeProwl 8:54 pm ... Is it? Windchill 8:54 pm Eh. I recognize faces easier. Voices are easier to change. Whirl 8:54 pm *speaking of voices, he heard a familiar one earlier, and swivels his helm around; is Ravage at the bar?* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:54 pm [[A squid boat? A boat with squid?]] Whirl 8:54 pm Smell's the best way to do it. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:54 pm *Ravage is ON the bar.* Windchill 8:54 pm Smell? Impact 8:54 pm a boat for catching squid? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:54 pm [[...They are already making plans?]] Windchill 8:54 pm You should smell me. I might be stinky. Swoop 8:55 pm Kehehhehehheheh Small Furry Dragon 8:55 pm For catching squid, I think. We have them for the water worms. Whirl 8:55 pm I already have. I more or less always am. *withdraws his legs and stands up* You smell like ice and earth. Which is... kind of weird. But makes sense. 'Scuse me. Windchill 8:55 pm Lame. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:55 pm *Cringing so hard. Gross human fluids.* Swoop 8:55 pm KEHEHEHHHEHHH Windchill 8:55 pm You should sniff Swoop then. FakeProwl 8:55 pm She's switched out one man who tells her what not to do for another man who doesn't listen when she says she doesn't want to do something. Swoop 8:55 pm *loves this* Impact 8:55 pm eeeew Swoop 8:55 pm *best part of the movie* Whirl 8:56 pm I'm more or less always smelling everyone, Windchill. Shockwave 8:56 pm *Really did not enjoy that scene.* Windchill 8:56 pm I mean get in REAL CLOSE. Small Furry Dragon 8:56 pm No, you eat insects. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:56 pm [[She has terrible taste.]] Whirl 8:56 pm *and sliiides on up to the bar* Hey barkeep. I think I might owe you? FakeProwl 8:56 pm She doesn't have taste. The first man, I'm sure, was thrust upon her. The second one thrust himself upon her. Windchill 8:57 pm I like this lady the best, I think. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:57 pm *Ravage crosses his paws and stares at Whirl.* =Little bit. You have payment?= Swoop 8:57 pm Penguins Windchill 8:57 pm Nah, not penguins. Small Furry Dragon 8:57 pm Mealworms, I think, Swoop. They're tasteless. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:57 pm [[She would be best served abandoning them both and enjoying her time on the ship alone.]] Windchill 8:57 pm Penguins work for their dinner. FakeProwl 8:58 pm Taste has nothing to do with it. She's afforded no agency. The one thing in this entire movie she chose to do for herself, she was prevented from completing. Swoop 8:58 pm Yuh-huh penguins black and white ItsyBitsySpyers 8:58 pm [[A fair point.]] Swoop 8:58 pm waddle Windchill 8:58 pm ...So am I! Whirl 8:58 pm Nothing fancy this time. Just an exchange. *whispers* Swiped this from Swerve's. *and he procures a bottle of what passes for Cybertronian wine; nothing fancy, but fine enough* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:58 pm //Wooooow. Cold.// Windchill 8:58 pm Maybe I was a penguin all along. Swoop 8:58 pm Maybe! Windchill 8:59 pm I can waddle too, if I want. Swoop 8:59 pm DO it Bevel 8:59 pm She got another pretty dress. Windchill 8:59 pm Okay! Impact 8:59 pm *reads up on Molly Brown on her tablet instead of watching* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:59 pm *Ravage sniffs the bottle. He doesn't have Ratbat's nose for fuel - it's made for tracking other things - but he can smell it well enough.* Impact 8:59 pm Molly Brown was cool! Small Furry Dragon 8:59 pm His hair's even shiny like some sort of beetle! Doesn't he clean himself? Windchill 8:59 pm *He gets up, and sidles around behind the seats, waddling back and forth. Proof.* Bevel 9:00 pm *leans over to read over Impact's shoulder* Swoop 9:00 pm *EXPLODES laughing at Windchill, complete with random flailing* Impact 9:00 pm ((there was this titanic game we used to play)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:00 pm =Good.= *Grabs it in his tail claws and hops behind the bar* Windchill 9:00 pm *Honk honks.* Impact 9:00 pm ((it was in french, we sucked at it and kept getting shot)) Swoop 9:00 pm *chirps* Whirl 9:00 pm *nods* Good. Any chance I can get something tonight, and settle my tab next week? FakeProwl 9:00 pm ((> titanic > getting shot what kind of titanic)) Windchill 9:01 pm *Slows just enough to eye the film.* Gossip. My specialty. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:01 pm =Yes. You are good for it.= Whirl 9:01 pm Nice. The usual, if you don't mind. Impact 9:01 pm ((you're supposed to solve a mystery or something before it sinks, i think?)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:01 pm *It'll be up in less than a minute.* Windchill 9:02 pm *Sits down, making a pained expression.* *What nonsense.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:03 pm [[...What is that goo.]] Windchill 9:03 pm Eggs. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:03 pm [[...They're very small.]] Small Furry Dragon 9:04 pm Are they bug's eggs? Windchill 9:04 pm I think they're fish? FakeProwl 9:04 pm *sounds like a miserable way to exist* Bevel 9:04 pm *sounds almost enjoyable to her, with less sleeping under bridges* Windchill 9:04 pm *An optic narrows. He's sure he has everything worth knowing about caviar in his Earth database somewhere, but he can't be bothered.* Small Furry Dragon 9:05 pm *wiggles wings in another shrug* We have bigger fish where I come from. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:05 pm *Is quite content having somewhere to stay now.* *Two somewheres, in fact.* Whirl 9:05 pm *has more or less had his fair share of sleeping in streets and under bridges. But. Well. He might have to get used to that again* *he's gonna take his drink as soon as it's done and return to his seat* Bevel 9:06 pm *technically has two places, but considers Blurr's ship her current address* Windchill 9:06 pm *Let's not start a conversation on horrible places we've all slept.* Impact 9:06 pm It's a party FakeProwl 9:08 pm *she says she can't do it and he straight-up ignores her and pulls her closer.* Windchill 9:08 pm That looks exhausting. Bevel 9:08 pm *nods her head along to the music* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:08 pm *And now she's said to stop and he hasn't.* Bevel 9:08 pm This looks fun. Whirl 9:08 pm *he likes his definition of a party more, at least; hunkers down over his drink like a horrid gargoyle* Swoop 9:08 pm Keheh them tap tap tap tap! Windchill 9:09 pm (( I'm sorry all I can think of atm is my coworker who got drunk, went hiking and decided to Irish tap dance when he got up there. Busted his ankle.)) FakeProwl 9:09 pm *had to turn his audials down to listen to this scene* Swoop 9:09 pm ((Sounds like a fun coworker)) Whirl 9:09 pm ((I REMEMBER THAT(( Windchill 9:09 pm (( My new favourite story. )) Swoop 9:09 pm Him Slag drink like that keheheh Bevel 9:10 pm ... Shockwave 9:10 pm *Being that this film is not historically accurate in any way, these scenes are quite boring to him.* Whirl 9:10 pm En pointe. Nice. Swoop 9:10 pm En pointe ItsyBitsySpyers 9:10 pm [[Impressive.]] Bevel 9:10 pm On point? Swoop 9:10 pm *is a little parrot* Shockwave 9:10 pm ((..I shouldn't say in /any way/, but you get what i mean.)) Whirl 9:10 pm The way she was standing, on the tips of her toes. Kind of difficult for most dancers to do. Impact 9:10 pm on tippy toes! FakeProwl 9:10 pm ((the boat eventually sinks. that's about where the similarities end.)) Bevel 9:10 pm Oh. Impact 9:10 pm humans can dance like that but it hurts Swoop 9:10 pm *immediately scrambles up to his feet to try* Impact 9:10 pm it looks pretty though ItsyBitsySpyers 9:11 pm ((some of the passengers in the latter parts are real people iirc)) Bevel 9:11 pm *watches Swoop* Small Furry Dragon 9:11 pm I think I prefer to dance on all four feet. Whirl 9:11 pm *also watches this* Swoop 9:11 pm *has borb feet for grabbing, not tippy toeing* Whirl 9:11 pm I don t dance, myself. Windchill 9:11 pm Me neither. FakeProwl 9:11 pm *dryly* How long until the tornado? Impact 9:11 pm 😮 Windchill 9:11 pm That was it. Bevel 9:11 pm Eat him. Small Furry Dragon 9:11 pm *hisses* Eat. Him. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:11 pm //Punch his fraggin' lights out.// Impact 9:12 pm eat him! Swoop 9:12 pm *still, he is athletic and mimics the way she slide up her feet until he is on the tips of his toes* Whirl 9:12 pm Hear, hear. *toasts* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:12 pm *Frenzy applauds Swoop* Swoop 9:12 pm *unfortunately, he gets excited and that turns into a wobble which gets hm back on the balls of his feet* aww keheh Bevel 9:12 pm 😞 Whirl 9:12 pm Hey! You did it, birdo. *toasts to that, as well* Windchill 9:12 pm *Claps.* Small Furry Dragon 9:12 pm Wow! Nice job, Swoop! Swoop 9:12 pm *hops to get up on his toes, stays there for a 1 2 3 count, then hops back flat footed* *TA DA!!!* Bevel 9:12 pm *claps for Swoop* Swoop 9:12 pm *poses* Impact 9:12 pm *claps for swoop!* Windchill 9:13 pm Boo hoo. Swoop 9:13 pm *is the weiner* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:13 pm [[...So that is why the mother is forcing her into this.]] Shockwave 9:13 pm *He's confused by the clapping, he was focusing on the film.* *Goes back to the film, though.* Swoop 9:13 pm *bends over to touch his toes, as if to check on them* Windchill 9:13 pm Maybe if they learned any real skills they wouldn't have to be dependent on other people. Bevel 9:13 pm Yes. Whirl 9:13 pm Yep. Impact 9:13 pm mmhmm Bevel 9:14 pm Sell everything but the pretty dresses. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:14 pm *Has like no sympathy.* Bevel 9:14 pm *she has priorities* Small Furry Dragon 9:14 pm Seamstresses are hard workers. I respect them more than I respect that mother. Swoop 9:14 pm *stands on his fingertips* FakeProwl 9:14 pm *zero sympathy* Impact 9:14 pm me too! Bevel 9:14 pm *sparkling dresses she could never wear being one of them* FakeProwl 9:14 pm *pities the girl who's surrounded by controlling people. her rescuer included.* Windchill 9:14 pm *Blows in Swoop's general direction, just in case it knocks him over.* FakeProwl 9:15 pm She should have jumped. Swoop 9:15 pm *is way too used to being body slammed for a gust of wind to matter* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:15 pm *She is selling her creation to keep her high caste things. He hopes the creator is first to drown.* Swoop 9:15 pm *turns this pretzel'd mess into a handstand instead* Windchill 9:15 pm *She doesn't deserve to have a creation.* Whirl 9:16 pm She should've. Swoop 9:16 pm *walks around on his hands* Whirl 9:16 pm *toasts Prowl, as well, and drinks yet again* Windchill 9:16 pm *Sniffs. Caste nonsense.* Impact 9:16 pm ((apparently my affronted noise when finding out the mother lives was funny)) FakeProwl 9:16 pm *wow, did he just get toasted by Whirl* Swoop 9:16 pm *can he grab a snack with his feet? we're about to find out* Windchill 9:16 pm *DO IT.* Small Furry Dragon 9:17 pm *ice warnings are normal, though? water gets cold, makes ice. such is the way of things.* Bevel 9:17 pm ((one hopes she becomes a seamstress and becomes a better person in this universe ItsyBitsySpyers 9:17 pm [[Ah. Yes. A brilliant idea with ice warnings, putting on all speed.]] Windchill 9:17 pm Wow, thievery. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:17 pm [[...Half.]] [[Let him guess which half.]] Small Furry Dragon 9:17 pm *the dragon snorts* Swoop 9:17 pm *catches a treat with his birb toes and kartwheels away to victory* Windchill 9:17 pm Naturally. FakeProwl 9:17 pm Mhmm. Whirl 9:17 pm You sure, Soundwave? Sounds like a toughie to me. Impact 9:18 pm I think I'm gonna go to bed now. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:18 pm [[Rest well, Impact.]] Bevel 9:18 pm Night, Impact. Windchill 9:18 pm For the best. Impact 9:18 pm I don't wanna watch the boat sink. Small Furry Dragon 9:18 pm Good night! Whirl 9:18 pm Seeya, pipsqueak. Windchill 9:18 pm Bye, short stack. Bevel 9:18 pm Rude. Eat him too. Whirl 9:18 pm He's annoying, too. Impact 9:18 pm *gives Zori one more hug before leaving* Small Furry Dragon 9:18 pm *giggles* Eat them all. FakeProwl 9:18 pm He's known her two days, he insults her and then tries to confess love. Whirl 9:19 pm How come we never watch any DECENT romance movies? FakeProwl 9:19 pm If their relationship lasts two years, he'll become as condescending and controlling as her current fiance. Whirl 9:19 pm ...well, okay, we watched the one, with the aliens. Windchill 9:19 pm *scratches chin.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:19 pm [[He's not sure the humans make them.]] FakeProwl 9:19 pm He's already well on his way. Windchill 9:19 pm Strong, he says. Eh. Whirl 9:19 pm And also, that one about the fly. Swoop 9:19 pm It better after them put wings on the things Bevel 9:19 pm It is because she is supposed to be untouchable. Swoop 9:19 pm for tornado floating :> Windchill 9:19 pm I think I've seen a few decent ones. Whirl 9:19 pm There should b e more romance films with armed combat. Windchill 9:19 pm YEAH. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:19 pm \\PIT YEAH.\\ Bevel 9:19 pm There should be less romance and more combat. FakeProwl 9:20 pm He pretends to tell her that she has agency in choosing her future, when what he's doing is ordering her to choose him. Whirl 9:20 pm Romance AND combat. *points at Bevel* At the same time. Windchill 9:20 pm I like that idea. boomtank 9:20 pm ((back Bevel 9:20 pm Romance is boring. FakeProwl 9:20 pm Could we skip both and just have a solid mystery. Windchill 9:20 pm *shrugs.* I like romance fine. Swoop 9:21 pm Them steal ship and pirate movie next time :V Whirl 9:21 pm I'll take a decent film noir, if that's whatcha mean. We should watch The Maltese Falcon sometime. Swoop 9:21 pm Falcon is bird :> boomtank 9:21 pm -hasn't been paying attention- Windchill 9:21 pm Sure is. Swoop 9:21 pm Maltese is...... dog? JUMP!! Whirl 9:21 pm Damn, Swoop, you right. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:21 pm [[He will look for a mystery soon. And investigate the falcon movie.]] Swoop 9:21 pm Me Swoop am right lots of times :> Windchill 9:21 pm Didn't she have a traumatic experience on the railings of this damned boat already? Swoop 9:22 pm Him Grimlock say Me Swoop am smarty pants boomtank 9:22 pm -looks up at this part- Small Furry Dragon 9:22 pm That can't feel like flying. boomtank 9:22 pm -stares- Swoop 9:22 pm that not flying????????????????? JUUUUMMMPPP then fly boomtank 9:22 pm Isn't that dangerous? Whirl 9:22 pm It really can't. Swoop 9:22 pm jump THEN fly Bevel 9:22 pm No that is falling. Swoop 9:22 pm same thing keheheh Small Furry Dragon 9:22 pm Flying is gliding with more falling, but also more going up. At least, that's what the hatchling instructors claimed! Windchill 9:23 pm ...What? Whirl 9:23 pm Maybe for you lot it is. *preens* I'm a HELICOPTER. Bevel 9:23 pm *bored now* Windchill 9:23 pm *That doesn't sound right.* Bevel 9:23 pm I can fly! Swoop 9:23 pm whirlybird :> Windchill 9:23 pm Some of us have engines. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:23 pm *Soundwave places a :| on his screen. Then he rolls the eyes.* Swoop 9:23 pm NOW them rescue old lady from smashed house because tornado attack her Dog okay Whirl 9:23 pm I have an engine, too. I've got two rotors arrays and one jet turbine. Windchill 9:24 pm I know you do. Small Furry Dragon 9:24 pm I don't think I can go as fast as you all do. Whirl 9:24 pm ((SWOOP UR KILLING ME HAHAHA)) ((TWISTER)) FakeProwl 9:24 pm Finally. Talk about the wreck more. That part is interesting. Swoop 9:24 pm ((GOOD)) ((I'M KILLING ME TOO)) ((WE DIE TOGETHER)) Whirl 9:24 pm Well, in your defense, you use analogue flight, right? With the flapping? Windchill 9:24 pm Let's pretend to know a thing about art, it's in the script. boomtank 9:25 pm -huffs and goes back to reading. More interesting- ItsyBitsySpyers 9:25 pm [[That's not a heart. It's a triangle.]] Small Furry Dragon 9:25 pm With the flapping, yes. *extends a wing to demonstrate* Whirl 9:25 pm *nods* Yeah! You might not be fast, but analogue flight's pretty neat. Windchill 9:25 pm I can do that. Whirl 9:25 pm Second-best thing to rotors. Windchill 9:25 pm *shakes his head in slow motion.* *It looks even stupider when he does it.* FakeProwl 9:26 pm ... The picture of her was found inside the safe. Windchill 9:26 pm Was that a dime? FakeProwl 9:26 pm Which means her fiance is going to discover the picture. Small Furry Dragon 9:26 pm You think so? It seems so normal to- okay they're taking their clothes off, I'm not going to look. Windchill 9:26 pm I suppose it was worth more then. *points* Boobs. Small Furry Dragon 9:26 pm Zori, may I hide my eyes behind your legs? ItsyBitsySpyers 9:27 pm *Holds a claw up over the dragon's eyes.* Small Furry Dragon 9:27 pm Thank you, Zori. Swoop 9:27 pm Boobs? Whirl 9:27 pm *perks up and swivels his head around* Oh. Hey, Professor. Didn't see ya. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:27 pm #hi *He's hiding with the dragon and Bevel.* Windchill 9:27 pm *He gestures, as if cupping boobs on his own chassis.* Her chest. Swoop 9:27 pm *mimics the gesture with ZERO understanding on his face* Whirl 9:28 pm *stares at this display* Windchill 9:28 pm *Does it again. Make them bounce.* Swoop 9:28 pm *cocks head* Windchill 9:28 pm Boobs. Whirl 9:28 pm Do you have a point. Windchill 9:28 pm Me? Swoop 9:28 pm *looks at Windchill* *looks at Whirl* *looks at Windchill* ??? Bevel 9:29 pm *will be a good barrier between boobs and robots* Swoop 9:29 pm *nope he's got nothing* Whirl 9:29 pm *looks at Swoop, obviously just as confused* I don't know what to do with this creature. Windchill 9:29 pm I just like boobs. FakeProwl 9:29 pm She has lead a sad, sterile life, if that was the most erotic moment of it. I suppose that's not a terrible surprise, given her fiance. Whirl 9:29 pm Eroticism's overrated. Windchill 9:30 pm *snorts.* Small Furry Dragon 9:30 pm ...Is it safe? Whirl 9:30 pm You know you're living life when you've set yourself on fire, somehow. Windchill 9:30 pm It's not so bad. Bevel 9:30 pm Yeah. Swoop 9:30 pm When Wheeljack want to find Dinobots, him shake goodie box Whirl 9:30 pm I'm sure. *takes a nice long pull* Swoop 9:31 pm ME SWOOP on fire ALL THE TIME :V In face Windchill 9:31 pm You are? *Squints.* Swoop 9:31 pm YAH Me Swoop can do fire RIGHT NOW :V Small Furry Dragon 9:31 pm *peeks out from behind Zori's claw* Windchill 9:31 pm Not in Soundwave's place. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:31 pm [[No firebreathing.]] Swoop 9:31 pm Little fire *holds fingertips sooooo close together* FakeProwl 9:32 pm ... Where does she think she's running? This is a ship. Small Furry Dragon 9:32 pm Swoop, I am flammable. Windchill 9:32 pm Do it outside. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:32 pm [[No. There is an organic here.]] FakeProwl 9:32 pm She should have sent Jack out of the room alone and stayed in her room by herself. Whirl 9:32 pm It's probably more fun that way. Swoop 9:32 pm :< Windchill 9:32 pm She doesn't care about consequences. Like me. 'Cept I'm better at running away from them. boomtank 9:33 pm ..... Whirl 9:33 pm Poor thing's desperate to live a little. It's why she does dumb things, like try to run away on a ship. And fling herself at the first person to throw her a shred of sympathy. Small Furry Dragon 9:33 pm I don't think they should be running around fire in long clothes. Whirl 9:33 pm She's miserable. Miserable people do dumb stuff. Windchill 9:33 pm ...This is true. FakeProwl 9:33 pm Oh yes. Run around the pumping piston in a long, flowing dress. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:33 pm [[Her antics are endangering multiple people.]] [[And he is encouraging them.]] Whirl 9:33 pm I'm not defending them. I'm explaining them. Small Furry Dragon 9:33 pm I've got long fur, and the docents chastised me for running in the kitchens. Windchill 9:33 pm She's not smart enough to have thought about it nor care. Swoop 9:33 pm Them watch The Shining in car and then tornado attack tear up movie screen Windchill 9:34 pm ...Why The Shining? Whirl 9:34 pm I think they're just as annoying as you lot do. Swoop 9:34 pm Carly say Shining scary movie ItsyBitsySpyers 9:34 pm //That'd be a blessin' at this point, Swoop.// [[He knows you are explaining. He is just - irritated.]] Windchill 9:34 pm Oh, great Whirl 9:34 pm Have a drink. Soothe your nerves. I happen to know a good bartender. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:34 pm *Taps his visor.* Windchill 9:34 pm *Snorts.* Whirl 9:35 pm *a cheeky, sidelong look before he takes a deep drink* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:35 pm \\I'LL HAVE ONE.\\ Bevel 9:35 pm *bored with all this romance, especially since Jack is almost as bad as the Cal guy* FakeProwl 9:35 pm I can understand the desperation of misery. I'm not going to stop criticizing her for it. Windchill 9:35 pm I'm gonna remember that line. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:35 pm *Frenzy sticks his tongue out a the screen and goes to get something serious from Ravage* FakeProwl 9:35 pm *is quite sure he's JUST as bad as the Cal guy. It's just earlier in the relationship.* Windchill 9:35 pm I know a guy with a lot of hands. Whirl 9:35 pm Hell yeah, Frenzy. Swoop 9:35 pm Him kill her?? FakeProwl 9:35 pm *No controlling abusers are at their worst at the very start of a relationship. Otherwise how do you lure them in?* boomtank 9:35 pm -back to staring at the screen for a moment- Are you joking? Small Furry Dragon 9:36 pm *DUCKS BEHIND THE SAFE ZORI CLAW* Windchill 9:36 pm If only. Whirl 9:36 pm Okay. Now. I'm not an expert, but. There's no room in there for anything fun. boomtank 9:36 pm EW Windchill 9:36 pm Not really, no. Bevel 9:36 pm *gets up to go to the bar with Frenzy* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:36 pm //Yeah, that ain't noticeable or nothin'.// Swoop 9:36 pm ?? Windchill 9:36 pm And I'm an expert. FakeProwl 9:37 pm How long have they known each other, exactly? Is this the third day? Shockwave 9:37 pm ((I keep getting pulled away from the computer, hghghghfhfh.)) Windchill 9:37 pm Something like that. A few days. To be fair. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:37 pm [[...That is a beautiful burn of a letter, though.]] FakeProwl 9:37 pm ... It is. I'm impressed. Windchill 9:37 pm My mate and I only knew each other for a day. Small Furry Dragon 9:37 pm *peeks up from Zori's claw* I missed it. Drat. Windchill 9:37 pm So I can't talk. Bevel 9:38 pm What did it say? *was poking at the bar, not watching the movie whoops* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:38 pm [[She gave the Cal human the drawing and said that he could keep her locked in the safe now.]] boomtank 9:38 pm Oh no Bevel 9:38 pm *giggles* Whirl 9:38 pm Yeah, it was pretty decent. boomtank 9:38 pm distracting the lookout Windchill 9:38 pm Dead. Death by sex. Whirl 9:38 pm That's no way to go. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:39 pm \\BLAZE OF GLORY, THAT'S HOW.\\ Small Furry Dragon 9:39 pm Why are they surprised to see an iceberg in the ocean? Whirl 9:39 pm Amen! ItsyBitsySpyers 9:39 pm *Raises his glass* Whirl 9:39 pm *raises his, as well* Windchill 9:39 pm I think you can do both. Or, *he rests a hand on his chest.* I could. FakeProwl 9:39 pm I think it's more the fact that the iceberg is in FRONT of them that's surprised them. Whirl 9:39 pm Well, have at it. ...*tilts his head; this ship' Windchill 9:39 pm I would, but I don't see it going over too well. Whirl 9:39 pm s guts are fascinating, really* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:40 pm *And Soundwave pulls out his tarp. It'll be nice and toasty in exactly the way these fleshlings won't.* Whirl 9:40 pm Why couldn't the movie have been about these guys. Small Furry Dragon 9:40 pm Fair enough. I expected they'd have seen a few more, though. But I think Earth might be warmer than where I live. The poles are smaller, at least, but the planet's smaller too. Swoop 9:40 pm Flying better than swimming. Flying, you just go UP OVER thing. FakeProwl 9:40 pm The impression I got from earlier in the movie is that they're very used to seeing them; they only become a concern when they're on a collision course. Small Furry Dragon 9:41 pm True enough, Swoop! *the dragon would toast, but the dragon did not bring food or drink for dragons* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:41 pm //Ugh, my audials.// Swoop 9:41 pm KAHA Whirl 9:41 pm *sighs* Shame. Looked like an interesting piece of machinery. FakeProwl 9:41 pm They also mentioned that the weather conditions would make it harder to see icebergs earlier, so they have— *covers audials* —have too little time to try to steer out of their way. Bevel 9:41 pm Too loud. FakeProwl 9:41 pm Hence the manic scramble when they DO see an iceberg. Swoop 9:41 pm Maybe tornado drop it there :V Tornado drop a house on road and them DRIVE THOUGH Windchill 9:41 pm Well, if they weren't going so fast, they'd have more time. Swoop 9:42 pm it pretty cool Whirl 9:42 pm Tornados are fun, though. FakeProwl 9:42 pm That as well. Small Furry Dragon 9:42 pm Some people used to try to steer icebergs, in our history. That... failed. Very much so. Windchill 9:42 pm *He knows a thing or two about high speeds and lack of maneuverability.* FakeProwl 9:42 pm *looks at Soundwave and murmurs* Why is Swoop so preoccupied with tornados? ItsyBitsySpyers 9:42 pm @Prowl: (txt): ...Dinobot? Windchill 9:42 pm This is where it gets exciting, I suppose. Swoop 9:43 pm *why isn't EVERYONE preoccupied with tornadoes???* FakeProwl 9:43 pm *blank look. he doesn't see the correlation.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:43 pm @Prowl: (txt): Interest: destruction. FakeProwl 9:43 pm Icebergs are destructive. But he's still on about tornados even after the iceberg hit. boomtank 9:43 pm Oh no Windchill 9:44 pm *Icebergs are passively destructive, that's probably why.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:44 pm @Prowl: (txt): Swoop: flier. Iceberg not obstacle, threat. Small Furry Dragon 9:44 pm *cackles* I like that logic. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:44 pm [[...He wonders if Seaspray ever had rats.]] Swoop 9:44 pm *soundwave is right AND ALSO FUCKING TWISTER IS A MASTERPIECE* FakeProwl 9:44 pm Hm. *fair enough, he supposed.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:45 pm //Aw, c'mon.// Bevel 9:45 pm ... Small Furry Dragon 9:45 pm *squints* *planting evidence. nice.* Whirl 9:45 pm Yeah. That's low. Bevel 9:45 pm He should have felt that fall into his pocket. It is really heavy. Whirl 9:46 pm But then again, it's what I expect. Windchill 9:46 pm Yup. Not really. FakeProwl 9:47 pm She doesn't know him. She's known him three days. Whirl 9:47 pm Honestly, I don't care if she believes him, as long as she gets away. Swoop 9:47 pm Soundwave Windchill 9:47 pm Exactly. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:47 pm [[She should have been telling them about the ice. Not standing by while they did this.]] Whirl 9:47 pm Obviously, she lives. Small Furry Dragon 9:47 pm *amused huff* Well, that's a thing. Whirl 9:47 pm Maybe they'll both eat it and save her the trouble. Shockwave 9:47 pm ((...So, wait, if this is all flashback, how is she telling the guys about scenes where she isn't involved?)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:47 pm [[What, Swoop?]] Swoop 9:47 pm This movie is movie where grandma get boiled? or that different movie? FakeProwl 9:47 pm ((she's psychic?)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:47 pm ((some of it's known, isn't it?)) Bevel 9:47 pm ((most of this is in logs and personal accounts yes ItsyBitsySpyers 9:48 pm ((anyway, she's an actress. she embellishes.)) Small Furry Dragon 9:48 pm ((I think it's the guys' forensic analysis stuff, and other's knowledge)) FakeProwl 9:48 pm ((i guess these scenes aren't ones that she's telling them about, they're just showing them to us.)) Whirl 9:48 pm ((ye)) Windchill 9:48 pm (( There were survivors. )) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:48 pm [[...Where a grandmother gets boiled? What?]] Shockwave 9:48 pm ((Hm, alright.)) Swoop 9:48 pm Yah Bevel 9:48 pm ((including at least one person in the room during this scene Swoop 9:48 pm Grandma jump out of boat and boiled Sludge hate it Him spook ItsyBitsySpyers 9:48 pm [[He does not know that film.]] Swoop 9:48 pm Because him giant aby Bevel 9:48 pm Eat him. Swoop 9:48 pm *baby Small Furry Dragon 9:48 pm *hisses* EAT HIM. Windchill 9:48 pm *raises eyebrows.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:48 pm //RIP HIS HEAD OFF 'N FEED IT TO HIM// Whirl 9:49 pm Yeah! *toast to that sentiment* Small Furry Dragon 9:49 pm Hear, hear! ItsyBitsySpyers 9:49 pm [[...There are newbuilds on this ship.]] boomtank 9:49 pm ...okay, I haven't been paying attention and I really don't like him ItsyBitsySpyers 9:49 pm [[In the low caste area.]] *...Oh.* Whirl 9:49 pm Yep. Windchill 9:50 pm 'Course there are. Swoop 9:50 pm what caste means? Whirl 9:50 pm I bet I can guess how well they're gonna do. Small Furry Dragon 9:50 pm Swoop, it's a ranking. High castes are the ones who tell everyone they're more important than low castes. FakeProwl 9:51 pm *leans forward. much more engaged now that the ship's sinking.* Swoop 9:51 pm Caste is rank Like commander? Windchill 9:51 pm Not really. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:51 pm [[A social ranking. Where you are placed in life.]] Windchill 9:52 pm Caste is your place in society, your purpose and your worth. It is assigned to you and you cannot leave. Swoop 9:52 pm That dumb. Beat up boss. Then you boss. Duh. FakeProwl 9:52 pm I know it's not going to happen. Whirl 9:52 pm You can definitely go down. Windchill 9:52 pm That's what we did. Whirl 9:52 pm Just never back up. FakeProwl 9:52 pm But I hope the pretentious ones keep hanging out in the ballroom while the poor ones go to the boats like they're told to. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:52 pm [[As does he.]] Windchill 9:52 pm Eh, that's mostly true. Small Furry Dragon 9:52 pm I hope the same. Windchill 9:53 pm I lied, I moved around a little bit. *A lot.* Whirl 9:53 pm We never had... I mean, the powerful were in power. There was no official system. Just an unofficial one. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:53 pm [[We did.]] Whirl 9:53 pm Cozy up to the powerful, and you're in. Do anything they don't like, and you're out. Windchill 9:54 pm Sounds gross. Whirl 9:54 pm Didn't even have to be done TO them. Swoop 9:54 pm *cocks his head at Whirl* Whirl 9:54 pm *drains his drink bitterly* Swoop 9:54 pm *doesn't even a little bit get it* Whirl 9:54 pm *that's for the best* FakeProwl 9:54 pm ... We absolutely had an official system. Based on shape. Swoop 9:55 pm Shape? Whirl 9:55 pm Well, eyah, that was... that wasn't a linear caste system, though. Not the same way these folks are talking about it. FakeProwl 9:55 pm It was fairly linear. Windchill 9:55 pm *Shakes his head.* boomtank 9:55 pm The higher castes were....abusive at the best ItsyBitsySpyers 9:55 pm *Soundwave pings his deployers for permission. The usual group give it.* FakeProwl 9:55 pm The lowest microscope was always going to be above the highest miner. Swoop 9:55 pm Fireworks :V Cool Windchill 9:55 pm Where I come from, your shape was the excuse, but it was arbitrated on what was deemed useful at the time. Whirl 9:56 pm *tilts his head* Fair. FakeProwl 9:56 pm Excepting the few who were legally permitted to move up or forced to move down. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:56 pm [[Rumble and Frenzy were construction. Buzzsaw was an artist. He was a spy. And they refused Ravage one.]] Windchill 9:56 pm So people with the same shapes might end up in very different places. Whirl 9:56 pm Yeah, see, there were plenty of folks who were exempt. Swoop 9:56 pm Bird? :> ItsyBitsySpyers 9:56 pm *Truthfully.* [[He does not know.]] Bevel 9:56 pm Why did they refuse Ravage? FakeProwl 9:56 pm The exemptions were a small minority. Whirl 9:56 pm *tilts his head at Soundwave* Swoop 9:56 pm Mystery bird :> Sneaky kehheh Windchill 9:57 pm ...Oh, I get it. FakeProwl 9:57 pm And there's a parallel to the exemptions in this film. They talked about "new money." Windchill 9:57 pm Dead artist joke. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:57 pm [[Because he happened to be created with four legs.]] Small Furry Dragon 9:57 pm *bares teeth in a snarl* Disgusting. Whirl 9:58 pm Did you ever get a chance to pay 'em back, Ravage? ItsyBitsySpyers 9:58 pm *Glances at Whirl. Yes?* *Slow blink.* Whirl 9:58 pm And--all right, all right. You'd know better than I would, Prowl. Made your point. i'll take that as a yes. Shockwave 9:59 pm ((Whoop, bed time, goodnight all.)) Whirl 9:59 pm ((night!)) Windchill 9:59 pm (( night! )) Small Furry Dragon 9:59 pm ((goodnight shockwave!)) Bevel 9:59 pm ((night boomtank 9:59 pm ((g'night FakeProwl 9:59 pm *slight nod* It was more rigid in Petrex than most places. Whirl 9:59 pm And you had the dubious honor of having them breathe down your damn neck. It's a wonder you made it this far sane. Windchill 10:00 pm *Snorts.* Small Furry Dragon 10:00 pm Bite your wrists, Jack. Blood helps. FakeProwl 10:00 pm *flat look* Would you believe it KEPT me sane. Whirl 10:00 pm *SNORTS* Whatever it takes, I guess. FakeProwl 10:00 pm Didn't think so. Whirl 10:01 pm Y'know. She's an idiot, but she's a brave idiot, at least. Windchill 10:01 pm They tend to go hand in hand. FakeProwl 10:01 pm She was going to kill herself three days ago. What does she have to lose? Swoop 10:01 pm ((JASON!!!)) ItsyBitsySpyers 10:01 pm =I was named nothing of worth remaining.= He bares his fangs. =It was true, when I found them.= Whirl 10:01 pm ...yeah, you're right. I get that. Heh! Bevel 10:02 pm Cybertron sucked. FakeProwl 10:02 pm Could've been worse. Could've been led by Starscream. Windchill 10:02 pm It got worse. Or, did where I'm from. FakeProwl 10:02 pm It did everywhere, I think. Whirl 10:02 pm *heaves a sigh and stares into his empty glass* Why'd you have to bust that out when I'm out of booze, Prowl? Bevel 10:02 pm Maybe your Starscream. *likes her Starscream just fine thank you* Whirl 10:03 pm *looks to Ravage* Y'know, I think I get why you ate them. It must be pretty satisfying to just EAT someone who treated you like that. But maybe... I've been spending to much time with Blurr. Windchill 10:03 pm *He's not going to say anything to that.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:03 pm =Mm.= No denying that. He crosses his paws. =And I was hungry.= FakeProwl 10:03 pm You should have drank slower. Windchill 10:04 pm *Points* Small Furry Dragon 10:04 pm *the dragon smiles at Ravage's comment* Windchill 10:04 pm Don't tell Whirl what to do. FakeProwl 10:04 pm Finally! ItsyBitsySpyers 10:04 pm [[About time.]] FakeProwl 10:04 pm It's about time she punches somebody dragging her around. Whirl 10:04 pm I need a lot of liquor. Amen to that! Swoop 10:04 pm Her cut off him hand :> Small Furry Dragon 10:04 pm That could happen, Swoop. Whirl 10:05 pm I--y'know, I bet. She won't. Swoop. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:05 pm =Come, come. I will serve more.= *Hops back off the bar and fixes another.* Swoop 10:05 pm Why won't???? FakeProwl 10:05 pm He'll bleed to death if she does. ... Not a great loss, I think. Swoop 10:05 pm Nuh huh Small Furry Dragon 10:05 pm Better than drowning. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:05 pm *Least he can do for someone who didn't judge him for what he did when he tracked his namers down.* FakeProwl 10:05 pm Is it? Whirl 10:05 pm It's really not. Swoop 10:05 pm Cauterize Whirl 10:05 pm *hops up and trots over to the bar* FakeProwl 10:05 pm She has no heat source to cauterize him with. Windchill 10:05 pm They don't have fire, Swoop. Swoop 10:05 pm There lots of wood For fires Small Furry Dragon 10:06 pm Well, for my kind? Yes. Some of the Cousins lack fur, but when you have fur and you sink, you keep going down. Windchill 10:06 pm No ignition. Plus it's wet. Small Furry Dragon 10:06 pm That was not enough practice. Bevel 10:06 pm *laughs* Whirl 10:06 pm *he's going to very pointedly turn his back to the screen he is not watching this, no thank you* boomtank 10:06 pm Oh.... Whirl 10:06 pm *Ravage you saved his goddamn life tonight* boomtank 10:06 pm wow She got it Small Furry Dragon 10:07 pm Well, I wouldn't have gambled on that. Windchill 10:07 pm She could have hit the pipe and broken it instead. Maybe. Swoop 10:07 pm Her suck at axe Her need different weapon Or her get beat up Windchill 10:07 pm Not sure what it's made of and I'm not looking it up right now. Whirl 10:07 pm https://68.media.tumblr.com/b618887d827a2226ea756daa216510c1/tumblr_inline_odjz8eaac91spllu4_540.jpg ((whirl and ravage)) Windchill 10:07 pm (( Oh my god. )) ItsyBitsySpyers 10:07 pm ((LOL)) Small Furry Dragon 10:07 pm ((well I just laughed like swoop)) Bevel 10:07 pm ((bwahaha Whirl 10:07 pm (( 😎 )) Windchill 10:08 pm The whole ship is sinking and he's fussing over one door. Amazing show of denial. Bevel 10:09 pm ...these humans are stupid. Small Furry Dragon 10:09 pm Is that news? Bevel 10:09 pm No. boomtank 10:09 pm ............. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:09 pm *Rubs his crest. How did any of this come to pass. Who vetted these crew members.* FakeProwl 10:09 pm This movie's much better now that the ship's sinking. Windchill 10:09 pm *High caste people, that's who* boomtank 10:10 pm I....I am not surprised Windchill 10:10 pm Don't need a gun for luck. But it helps. Bevel 10:11 pm *covers her face with her hands* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:11 pm [[It is interesting to watch how people behave in situations like these. But this should never have been necessary.]] FakeProwl 10:11 pm No, it shouldn't. Whirl 10:11 pm *looks over his shoulder* Nice. Swoop 10:11 pm *cheers for breaking things* FakeProwl 10:11 pm But watching it go down is far better than watching three different people telling the girl what to do. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:12 pm [[And these humans blocking the escape. They deserve to be locked behind one.]] Small Furry Dragon 10:12 pm When the Goddess ate the Eaten One, they say that the largest of the Cousins threw their bodies at his walls to break them down. It's fun to see how mythos transfers through universes. boomtank 10:12 pm -back to reading. Ignoring the movie now- ItsyBitsySpyers 10:12 pm [[He will not argue that. It is much better now.]] \\YOU GOT SOME COOL MYTHS FOR FLESHIES.\\ Whirl 10:13 pm Yeah. You dragons are all right. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:13 pm [[...And he admires these musicians.]] Small Furry Dragon 10:13 pm I suppose we do. I was raised on it, it seems so normal to me. Whirl 10:13 pm Oh, damn, I've still got to fight that one guy. I know a dragon who's mechanical. We've gotta beat each other up. Small Furry Dragon 10:13 pm Then again, I keep being surprised to see stars. Windchill 10:13 pm (( Hi Winston. )) Whirl 10:14 pm ((IKR?)) Windchill 10:14 pm (( Also the hunter/dad from Jumanji. Amazing. )) *Nods* Dragons are for fighting. Whirl 10:15 pm Oh boy. He might bite it after all. Small Furry Dragon 10:15 pm Not me! I bake. Some of my kind sing, or we so, or spin wool. The other Cousins are better fighters. More claws. Armor-like scales. Windchill 10:16 pm That's cool. *Like, it's cool but it doesn't fit his Skyrim narrative.* *Which is honestly the extent of his dragon knowledge.* Small Furry Dragon 10:17 pm *the dragon isn't exactly skyrim either. fuzzy, not prone to shouting, more insectivore than carnivore* FakeProwl 10:18 pm *is far more invested in the father who's trying to comfort his daughter than in the main characters* Windchill 10:18 pm *Same.* Whirl 10:19 pm *takes his drink back to his table* oh, sod off, movie. Nobody cares. Bevel 10:19 pm *uncovers her face at the shouting* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:19 pm *Facepalms.* Bevel 10:19 pm Noooo boomtank 10:19 pm -doesn't look up and STILL feels the urge to facepalm- Small Furry Dragon 10:20 pm *doesn't have palms and still facepalms. facepaws* boomtank 10:20 pm -the main characters are so stupid- Windchill 10:20 pm *Contorts his face a little.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:20 pm [[Really.]] [[-Really.-]] Bevel 10:20 pm Go back to the other passengers please. FakeProwl 10:20 pm ... I'm actually hoping he hits. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:20 pm [[So is he.]] FakeProwl 10:21 pm Not that I can stand him. But I'd really like them dead. Small Furry Dragon 10:21 pm Why are they going back to the water? boomtank 10:21 pm Save one of them from their stupidity ItsyBitsySpyers 10:21 pm [[But this is hardly the time.]] Windchill 10:21 pm It'd be cooler if they had guns too. FakeProwl 10:21 pm Maybe he'll follow them into the water and freeze to death too. Whirl 10:21 pm Oh, he's about to eat it! ...damn. Wait...... Windchill 10:21 pm Eh. Seen this film before. FakeProwl 10:21 pm ... Is this where the ship splits? Small Furry Dragon 10:21 pm *shivers* That's a terrible sound. Whirl 10:22 pm It SPLITS? Bevel 10:22 pm Yeah. FakeProwl 10:22 pm Oh. You missed the first ten minutes. Bevel 10:22 pm ...he thought about leaving the newbuild. FakeProwl 10:22 pm Yes, they had a little CGI presentation about how the ship's going to sink. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:22 pm *Who left without their creation?* Whirl 10:22 pm Oh. Neat. Windchill 10:22 pm *Shakes his head.* What were they doing down there? ItsyBitsySpyers 10:22 pm *Oh, good. Only separated. ... Not that it will help.* Bevel 10:23 pm No! boomtank 10:23 pm AH! Small Furry Dragon 10:23 pm Oh. Whirl 10:23 pm Well. It's not like they would've been able to save the kid anyway. No more boats. boomtank 10:23 pm The...the child Whirl 10:23 pm Might as well go quick. Windchill 10:23 pm *Time for his best stone cold expression.* FakeProwl 10:23 pm The front of the ship fills with water first, so that end sinks first. When the rear lifts into the air, the strain breaks it in half. boomtank 10:23 pm Oh... Small Furry Dragon 10:23 pm *accidentally clinging to Zori without asking. the dragon's fur is all puffed out* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:24 pm *Zori gently paps her with claws and offers her a cookie.* FakeProwl 10:24 pm ... He could have given them the keys. Small Furry Dragon 10:25 pm Th-thank you... But I made those for you... *still clinging* *floods of water = bad* Windchill 10:25 pm People act stupid when they're scared. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:25 pm ((i'm sorry if anyone else doesn't do well with flashing, i didn't remember that it got like this)) boomtank 10:25 pm Oh...Primus this isn't good Windchill 10:25 pm (( I forgot too and I saw this recently. )) Bevel 10:25 pm ((it'll stop in a moment ItsyBitsySpyers 10:26 pm [[So much for that boat.]] [[Did he just--]] boomtank 10:27 pm He did FakeProwl 10:27 pm ... You know, if the movie had started with... I don't know, maybe the sex scene, solely to establish that the two characters are attracted to each other. And skipped EVERYTHING before that—the movie would have been much better. Windchill 10:27 pm Much shorter. Whirl 10:27 pm Yep. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:27 pm *...Oh. He's going to--* Small Furry Dragon 10:27 pm Oh no. Bevel 10:27 pm *jumps* boomtank 10:28 pm ................. Windchill 10:28 pm *No reaction.* Small Furry Dragon 10:28 pm *snarls* That's awful. Bevel 10:28 pm He only saved her to save himself. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:28 pm [[At least he saved her.]] FakeProwl 10:29 pm On the bright side, the child's just been adopted into the upper class. Small Furry Dragon 10:29 pm For now. FakeProwl 10:29 pm Awful controlling father, though. boomtank 10:29 pm He's going to drop her the moment he's safe Windchill 10:30 pm So many babies. Small Furry Dragon 10:30 pm Is there something about not laying eggs that make people terrible parents? ItsyBitsySpyers 10:30 pm [[Shock, he assumes.]] [[The captain.]] Small Furry Dragon 10:30 pm Or, at least, not care for their young. Windchill 10:30 pm No. FakeProwl 10:30 pm Appears to be. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:30 pm [[He does not know about the question.]] Windchill 10:30 pm Pretty sure. I don't lay eggs. Whirl 10:30 pm *shrugs* Windchill 10:30 pm I take offense to that. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:30 pm *Admires this musician. Still playing alone.* Whirl 10:30 pm Maybe some of them just don't have the instinct. We don't. Not in my dimension, anyway. FakeProwl 10:31 pm At least the musicians are acting like decent, civilized people. Bevel 10:31 pm They are still playing. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:31 pm *Tiny thread of warmth in his broke-aft spark.* Whirl 10:31 pm ... *a toast to them, at least* Bevel 10:31 pm *would cry if she were physically capable of doing so* Whirl 10:31 pm *he can respect artists dying doing what they loved* Small Furry Dragon 10:31 pm *bows head. the dragon can respect this, too* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:32 pm ((this scene gets me so bad)) boomtank 10:32 pm ((noooo FakeProwl 10:32 pm ... In moments of crisis, people do not rise to the occasion. They fall back to their level of training. If the whole ship had been trained the way those musicians were, many more lives could have been saved. Bevel 10:32 pm *whines* The newbuilds. Small Furry Dragon 10:32 pm *gently pats Bevel with a paw* Windchill 10:32 pm *He'd argue with Prowl, but he's too busy not emoting.* boomtank 10:33 pm -once again, buries face in datapad- Windchill 10:33 pm (( Captions always crack me up holy hell. )) FakeProwl 10:33 pm ... Did that man JUST figure out the boat is sinking? ItsyBitsySpyers 10:34 pm [[There is a difference between knowing something and seeing it before you.]] FakeProwl 10:34 pm Pfff. Windchill 10:34 pm Dead. Small Furry Dragon 10:34 pm *sorry Zori, you get the cling again* Swoop 10:34 pm DEAD ItsyBitsySpyers 10:34 pm *Zori hums for the dragon. For once, it is nice to be big. He can protect them.* FakeProwl 10:34 pm Oh, is this where it breaks? Windchill 10:35 pm Close to it, I think. Small Furry Dragon 10:35 pm ((d'awww Zori you are the precious scorpion childe)) FakeProwl 10:35 pm *oh, damn. the main characters are back.* boomtank 10:35 pm -not looking up, not looking up SO not looking up- Windchill 10:35 pm I barely remember anything. 'Sides the lyrics to that damned song. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:35 pm [[...Wait.]] [[If the ship is going to go straight up, then all of these people are...]] Tilts head. [[Well then.]] Whirl 10:36 pm Yep. Last time I checked, they couldn't fly. Swoop 10:36 pm sucks for them Flying the best Windchill 10:36 pm Dead. Swoop 10:36 pm DEAD Windchill 10:36 pm *Dammit SWOOP* boomtank 10:36 pm -Hasn't looked up and still curls up in seat- Whirl 10:37 pm *snickers* Swoop 10:37 pm Soundwave ItsyBitsySpyers 10:37 pm [[Yes?]] Small Furry Dragon 10:37 pm Zori, did you know that you're the best? *don't mind the poofing* Swoop 10:37 pm When them get tied to the pipe? And tornado suck up Whirl 10:37 pm I don't think your tornado is gonna show. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:37 pm #thank you #you are good too #:) Windchill 10:37 pm *Yeah baby show them propellers.* Small Furry Dragon 10:38 pm ((wINDCHILL NO)) Whirl 10:38 pm ((djeskjf)) Windchill 10:38 pm (( She's aft up he can't help it. )) FakeProwl 10:38 pm ((draw me like one of your french boats)) Windchill 10:38 pm (( I mean if you're gonna die, might as well go aft up. )) Small Furry Dragon 10:38 pm ((oh no soundwave died)) Windchill 10:39 pm (( Bevel, you have the remote. )) FakeProwl 10:39 pm ((bevel can u pause it)) Bevel 10:39 pm ((she can Whirl 10:39 pm ((bevel HAS THE POWER)) Small Furry Dragon 10:39 pm ((SOUNDWAVE LIVES)) Swoop 10:39 pm There ... like..... four tornados Bevel 10:39 pm ((Soundwave now has the power again Swoop 10:39 pm One kills a dad ItsyBitsySpyers 10:40 pm ((sorry y'all. my laptop likes to forget how to noise sometimes.)) FakeProwl 10:40 pm Oh look, it's all that china that was never used. Windchill 10:40 pm Why are we killing dads with tornadoes? Swoop 10:40 pm dunno fun boomtank 10:40 pm Ohno ItsyBitsySpyers 10:41 pm *Cringe.* Swoop 10:41 pm KAHHAHAHAHAHAH Whirl 10:41 pm Ouch. Swoop 10:41 pm THUNK!! Small Furry Dragon 10:41 pm Why would you jump off the- oh. That's. Ouch. FakeProwl 10:41 pm She's going to get her chance to jump after all. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:41 pm *LOUD HUFF* Bevel 10:41 pm Chip the glasses and crack the plates. *hums to self* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:41 pm *He doesn't know if he should have laughed at that but he did. Can't take it back now.* Whirl 10:41 pm That guy got it easy. Small Furry Dragon 10:42 pm Agreed. Whirl 10:42 pm A nice quick zap and he's done. Bevel 10:42 pm Now it breaks. FakeProwl 10:42 pm There we go. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:42 pm [[There it goes.]] Swoop 10:42 pm ZAP dead Windchill 10:42 pm There we go. Swoop 10:42 pm COOL boomtank 10:42 pm Ooooohno Small Furry Dragon 10:42 pm *winces* Poor ship. She tried her best. Whirl 10:42 pm Run by idiots. boomtank 10:42 pm all the people that fell off... Swoop 10:42 pm SMASH dead FakeProwl 10:43 pm ... The special effects on that crash could have been better. A more impressive splash. boomtank 10:43 pm Yes, Swoop, they're all dead Bevel 10:43 pm *giggles* FakeProwl 10:43 pm Oh, NOW he wants her to climb over the rail. Windchill 10:43 pm Man. Bevel 10:43 pm *all these people dead and Prowl's talking about special effects on splashes* boomtank 10:43 pm Oh no ItsyBitsySpyers 10:43 pm [[It is an impressive sight.]] Windchill 10:43 pm Even I can't get my butt up that far. Small Furry Dragon 10:43 pm The splash was impressive enough for me. I drown in water. Whirl 10:43 pm You're just inflexible. Windchill 10:44 pm *Gasps in offense.* That's true. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:44 pm //My everythin' hurts lookin' at this.// FakeProwl 10:44 pm *he's trying not to think about how much of this could have been prevented by an adequately trained crew.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:44 pm *That's ALL he keeps thinking about.* Whirl 10:44 pm Getcha a drink, Rumble. Windchill 10:44 pm I'm more flexible than I was, though. Swoop 10:44 pm glub glub glub KAHAHA boomtank 10:45 pm Wouldn't the force of the water going down with the ship suck things down with it? Small Furry Dragon 10:45 pm *winces* Bevel 10:45 pm *all she can think about is if they'd have just had enough lifeboats and filled them right* Let go. FakeProwl 10:45 pm ... They could have both saved themselves a lot of trouble if they'd jumped three days ago. Windchill 10:45 pm *He's convinced that the whole thing amounts to hubris.* FakeProwl 10:45 pm I mean. They've ended up in the same place. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:45 pm [[Well. She wouldn't be there to tell them the story.]] Small Furry Dragon 10:46 pm That is fair, but the docents would have scrubbed my mouth for saying such a thing. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:46 pm [[But everyone else would.]] FakeProwl 10:46 pm No great loss. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:46 pm *Fair.* Swoop 10:46 pm that lots of scream ItsyBitsySpyers 10:46 pm *Pulls his tarp tight. You know what? Swoop's right. It's nice to be a flier. No icebergs. No icy water.* Windchill 10:46 pm I've heard more. Swoop 10:47 pm just keep swimming, swimming, swimming :> boomtank 10:47 pm -swoop no- Small Furry Dragon 10:47 pm *poofy and shivering* I wouldn't be screaming that long. It's horrible to drown, it must be. Whirl 10:47 pm Well, at least the jerk she cozied up with knows enough to keep her alive. FakeProwl 10:47 pm *at some point some time ago, laced his hands together to prop his chin on.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:47 pm *...Ice in the air, if he's not careful, but y'know. Still better.* Small Furry Dragon 10:48 pm ((where the fuck is the game of thrones soundtrack coming from)) FakeProwl 10:48 pm *they've been squeezing tighter since.* Small Furry Dragon 10:48 pm ((oh it's my dad. why is he still awake.)) ItsyBitsySpyers 10:48 pm ((pffff)) Windchill 10:48 pm I like their use of the blue filter, letting us know it's really cold. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:49 pm [[Her. He likes her.]] FakeProwl 10:49 pm Mm. Windchill 10:49 pm I picked her out pretty early. Small Furry Dragon 10:49 pm Eat him, Molly. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:50 pm [[...Though he would have liked her more if she decked him.]] Windchill 10:50 pm *Nods.* Whirl 10:50 pm Yeah. Small Furry Dragon 10:50 pm Yep. Windchill 10:50 pm Dead. FakeProwl 10:50 pm ... He's helping. He's good. Bevel 10:50 pm Good guy. Swoop 10:50 pm them ice Like SKyfire FakeProwl 10:50 pm Empty the half-filled boats into a single boat and take the empty ones back for rescue. Whirl 10:50 pm *takes a long drink* Did we ever see her jerk fiancee get it? Small Furry Dragon 10:50 pm We did not. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:51 pm [[Good.]] Whirl 10:51 pm Damn. FakeProwl 10:51 pm If they'd all done that... Bevel 10:51 pm Hero. Windchill 10:51 pm I got some bad news, bub. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:51 pm [[They said something about an insurance claim on the necklace being filed. He assumes the fiancee lives.]] Small Furry Dragon 10:51 pm I can't believe they aren't dead. FakeProwl 10:51 pm Mm. That's right. Windchill 10:51 pm You're gonna make... Lots of babies. Small Furry Dragon 10:51 pm Not exactly romantic, there. Windchill 10:52 pm *Keep it together something about that is awful and hilarious.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:52 pm [[Really? Because it looks pretty miserable.]] Swoop 10:52 pm Her Carly make a baby Whirl 10:52 pm Yeah. Some lucky hand of poker. Swoop 10:52 pm Him Daniel :> boomtank 10:52 pm He's trying to be romantic ...kinda stupid ItsyBitsySpyers 10:52 pm //...Why ain't he on the door?// FakeProwl 10:52 pm ... Somewhere on the east side of the Atlantic is a very relieved Swede. Whirl 10:52 pm Well he was incapable of being romantic the whole movie so far. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:52 pm \\HA!\\ Small Furry Dragon 10:52 pm Heh. boomtank 10:52 pm -snorts- Windchill 10:52 pm Sven, that was his name. Lucky Loser Sven. Whirl 10:53 pm I mean... if they can do it without sinking, it'd be easier for them to keep warm. boomtank 10:53 pm And if he gets on the door it'll sink...I think Bevel 10:53 pm Let go. Small Furry Dragon 10:53 pm They might be able to make it work, if they thought. But thinking is hard when you're freezing and drowning. Swoop 10:53 pm There lots of floaty dead people Him can climb them ItsyBitsySpyers 10:53 pm *That's unnerving.* FakeProwl 10:53 pm ... God. boomtank 10:54 pm Primus... Bevel 10:54 pm Noooo Windchill 10:54 pm That's pretty grim. Small Furry Dragon 10:54 pm *hides eyes behind the Most Valued Scorpion* boomtank 10:54 pm No..... ItsyBitsySpyers 10:54 pm *Pet pet.* FakeProwl 10:54 pm *turns off his optics, bows his head, and presses his laced hands to his crest.* Bevel 10:54 pm *covers her face again* Whirl 10:54 pm Reminds me of Maelstrom VI, actually. *nods and takes adeep drink* boomtank 10:55 pm -staring at screen in horror- FakeProwl 10:55 pm *just for a second. then looks up again.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:55 pm @Prowl: (txt): ...Status? Windchill 10:55 pm *He can't believe he's sitting through this awful dead baby movie again.* Swoop 10:55 pm *hasn't seen whole corpse filled battlefields like some folks so this is neither here nor there for the murder baby* Small Furry Dragon 10:55 pm It must be weird, to be dying and see lights staring down at you. FakeProwl 10:55 pm *affirmative ping.* Whirl 10:55 pm 'Cept we're the ones who filled the ocean up. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:55 pm @Prowl: (txt): Not glass. ... Curious. FakeProwl 10:55 pm *which doesn't really mean anything, since soundwave didn't ask a yes/no question. but he gets an affirmative ping all the same.* Windchill 10:56 pm (( U know my fave thing is people making lighthearted fantasy Titanic cartoons. As in I hate it. )) (( Like show some goddamned respect. It'll always be too soon. )) Swoop 10:56 pm her bad at waking up Small Furry Dragon 10:56 pm ((there was a good animated one, I think the guy who made Gertie the Dinosaur did it? we watched it in Animation History.)) FakeProwl 10:57 pm ((make up a different giant boat to have your lighthearted fantasies on)) Windchill 10:57 pm (( Good. I've only heard of the terrible ones. )) Swoop 10:57 pm Me Swoop really really REALLY good at waking up keheheheh Windchill 10:57 pm Can you wake the dead, Swoop? Swoop 10:57 pm YAH Whirl 10:57 pm I came pretty near it, once. Swoop 10:57 pm Me Swoop am pterodactyl Whirl 10:57 pm But that's a long story. Swoop 10:57 pm Awesome for screaming Windchill 10:57 pm I can scream too. Small Furry Dragon 10:58 pm *HISSES* *have a poof Zori* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:58 pm *...Is vaguely uncomfortable. And thinking of asteroids.* Windchill 10:58 pm Mostly it's for killing people though. Swoop 10:58 pm Scream killing Windchill 10:58 pm Yeah. You get people in tight quarters with a dense enough atmosphere...And scream loud enough. Bevel 10:59 pm No screaming. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:59 pm *...Offers Prowl a bit of tarp?* Swoop 10:59 pm Why her whistle her SPLASH that better Windchill 10:59 pm I wasn't planning to demonstrate. *He's not here to murder organics, even if they are dragons.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:00 pm [[Seven hundred. Of potentially eleven hundred. Which should have been twenty-two hundred.]] Small Furry Dragon 11:00 pm *the dragon much appreciates it* boomtank 11:00 pm So few survived Windchill 11:00 pm It shouldn't have sunk at all. Swoop 11:00 pm When is tornado going to throw truck at them? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:00 pm [[There is that.]] FakeProwl 11:00 pm ... It's disgusting. Whirl 11:00 pm Keep watching, Swoop. It's bound to happen. Swoop 11:01 pm Kay Windchill 11:01 pm *Whirl u liar.* Whirl 11:01 pm Ugh, this guy. Small Furry Dragon 11:01 pm *hisses* FakeProwl 11:01 pm *Nearly shouts at Swoop. Just grits his dentae.* Swoop 11:01 pm *is happy to be here* :? *:> Whirl 11:02 pm Honestly? Probably a good thing for her. Small Furry Dragon 11:02 pm *pats Zori* I hope I didn't scratch you up... Whirl 11:02 pm Maybe she learned a few things from it all. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:02 pm #I am okay #do not worry Windchill 11:02 pm Maybe. Small Furry Dragon 11:02 pm I owe you some more cookies. Whirl 11:03 pm She seemed to have had a good life. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:03 pm [[If he was so important, why did she not talk about him?]] FakeProwl 11:03 pm ... She's so lucky he died. Whirl 11:03 pm Yeah. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:03 pm [[And yes, she is.]] Bevel 11:03 pm She had a good life without him. Windchill 11:03 pm *Nods.** Whirl 11:03 pm Ugh. Romance. Or, I guess I should say--bad romance. *shakes his head in disgust and drinks* Windchill 11:04 pm Yeah. *He's not sure how anyone here defines bad romance though so shhh.* Oh man, this part. Why not just give it to the guy. FakeProwl 11:04 pm ... Does she have the diamond. Is she going to throw it in the damn water. Windchill 11:05 pm Yup. Whirl 11:05 pm What's he want it for? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:05 pm //For real!?// Small Furry Dragon 11:05 pm Oh no. Swoop 11:05 pm JUMP FakeProwl 11:05 pm If you don't want it, give it to someone who does. Windchill 11:05 pm Right? Ticks me off. Swoop 11:05 pm JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP Bevel 11:05 pm Shiny. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:05 pm //Boss. Boss, y'better have somethin' real good next week.// Windchill 11:05 pm *No more dead babies.* Whirl 11:05 pm I second this notion. Cos wow, what a turd. boomtank 11:05 pm REALLY?! Windchill 11:05 pm *Snorts.* Small Furry Dragon 11:05 pm Amazing. FakeProwl 11:06 pm Pointless. Windchill 11:06 pm I told you she was selfish. And none too bright. Swoop 11:06 pm No one jump? :< Windchill 11:06 pm No, they just shot themselves. Whirl 11:06 pm What the HELL, movie. You show us that godawful story Windchill 11:06 pm What beautiful photo editing. Whirl 11:06 pm and then show us pictures of her going deep sea fishing and LEARNING TO FLY A PLANE. boomtank 11:06 pm -nope. Facepalms. Drops reading to do this too- FakeProwl 11:06 pm Who cares about her stupid life! Whirl 11:06 pm And you don't tell us THAT instead? FakeProwl 11:06 pm Over a thousand died! ItsyBitsySpyers 11:07 pm [[...Well. He -did- say it was a cautionary tale.]] Bevel 11:07 pm *whines* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:07 pm [[It just happened to be at least a dozen of them.]] Whirl 11:07 pm I'm saying that would have been a MUCH better movie! Swoop 11:07 pm wait where was can? so guy can uhhh figure out how to beat up tornado *is so confused* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:07 pm [[Swoop, for the love of Primus.]] Whirl 11:07 pm Just keep watching, Swoop. FakeProwl 11:07 pm Oh, would you—DROP the damn tornado. Windchill 11:07 pm The problem with this is up until the final act it romanticizes the entire thing. Then goes back to romanticizing it. Whirl 11:08 pm Dumb. Small Furry Dragon 11:08 pm *facepaw* Bevel 11:08 pm Stupid romance. Whirl 11:08 pm D on't listen to him, Swoop. The tornado's right about to show up Windchill 11:08 pm Let's just forget the tragedy to make the audiences feel better. Bleh. Swoop 11:08 pm ???? Windchill 11:08 pm *Oh no.* *OH GOOD.* Whirl 11:08 pm Thank you, Soundwave. Windchill 11:08 pm *We'RE SAVED.* Whirl 11:08 pm I owe you my goddamned life. Windchill 11:09 pm *He knows that song.* Whirl 11:09 pm *well. technically he already does actually* Windchill 11:09 pm *Y'all were THIS CLOSE.* Swoop 11:09 pm ???????????????????? Windchill 11:09 pm *Crosses his arms.* Whirl 11:09 pm Oh, damn. Look at it go! TYhere it is. Worth the wait, right? Look at that tornado. Windchill 11:09 pm *He was denied.* boomtank 11:09 pm Titanic. Not Twister Bevel 11:09 pm Better movie next week. Swoop 11:09 pm YAH twister awesome????? that not awesome????? ???????? Whirl 11:10 pm You see it, Swoop? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:10 pm ((...I completely blanked on what i was going to YT)) boomtank 11:10 pm Yes, but this wasn't Twister. No tornados only icebergs Swoop 11:10 pm ((TWISTER)) Whirl 11:10 pm ((st elmo's fire obv)) Windchill 11:10 pm (( THE ELMO SONG. )) Swoop 11:10 pm But tornadoes BETTER????? Whirl 11:10 pm They are. You're missing it, too. FakeProwl 11:10 pm ... Really? Icebergs? boomtank 11:11 pm Yes ItsyBitsySpyers 11:11 pm [[He wants to know more about them.]] boomtank 11:11 pm But none in that movie FakeProwl 11:11 pm ... *yeah, all right* Windchill 11:11 pm That's fair. Small Furry Dragon 11:11 pm They're big, they're cold, and you cannot use them for sea travel. Swoop 11:11 pm Soundwave, you show cow get thrown around PCHOOO tornado!! Small Furry Dragon 11:11 pm Also once someone found a giant insect in one. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:11 pm [[No. He is not showing tornadoes.]] Small Furry Dragon 11:11 pm That was fun. I think they actually tried to eat it. Swoop 11:11 pm this guy sound like A TOOL FakeProwl 11:12 pm ... Can we watch the CGI of the Titanic sinking next. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:12 pm [[He will look for something on that.]] FakeProwl 11:12 pm It's on the right. Second video. boomtank 11:12 pm -sighs- ItsyBitsySpyers 11:12 pm [[...So it is. Thank you.]] FakeProwl 11:12 pm *nod* Swoop 11:13 pm Me Swoop find Bird. Us go see tornado. Way way cooler than boring talky video. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:13 pm [[Very well. Try not to get caught in it.]] FakeProwl 11:13 pm Then leave. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:13 pm [[...There was more beneath the water?]] Swoop 11:13 pm *WILL ABSOLUTELY GET CAUGHT IN IT, PCHOOOOOOO, swoop out* FakeProwl 11:13 pm ... "It's BELIEVED that the iceberg that sank the Titanic"? They never caught the culprit? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:14 pm *Looks at Prowl* Whirl 11:14 pm The culprit was the dumbass crew. FakeProwl 11:14 pm You know what I mean. Whirl 11:14 pm Iceberg was just... iceberging around. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:14 pm [[...Where would they get stasis cuffs that BIG?]] Whirl 11:14 pm Doing what iceberg's do. Wasn't its fault. Bevel 11:14 pm *laughs* FakeProwl 11:14 pm Oh, shut— I'm a cop, I called it a culprit, get over it. Small Furry Dragon 11:15 pm I would pay to see someone arrest an iceberg. Whirl 11:15 pm SOMEone's prickly tonight. You need a drink. FakeProwl 11:15 pm The— murder weapon, then. ... Dammit. *that's not better* Small Furry Dragon 11:15 pm Well, pay in baked goods, but that's what I have. Whirl 11:15 pm The murder weapon was the controls for the ship. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:15 pm *Sits up slightly. He was only going along with what he thought was a tiny joke.* FakeProwl 11:15 pm The guilty— mmph. Whirl 11:15 pm The iceberg was merely landscape. FakeProwl 11:16 pm *just. jams a hand over his mouth and angrily chinhands.* Whirl 11:16 pm *takes a nice long drink* Windchill 11:17 pm "That looks good," he says. Small Furry Dragon 11:17 pm He's an artist, explaining his art. It just so happens that his art is reconstructing disasters. Windchill 11:18 pm I know what he means. Still poor choice of words. Small Furry Dragon 11:18 pm Fair enough. Whirl 11:18 pm Also--couldn't help but notice your tense, there. You decided to go on and do it, Prowl? *looks over* Bevel 11:18 pm 😞 FakeProwl 11:18 pm ... Do what? *his first thought is "jump off the boat?"* Whirl 11:19 pm You know. FakeProwl 11:19 pm What? Whirl 11:19 pm ...@P: The cop thing. @P: That you asked me about forever ago. FakeProwl 11:19 pm @W «... I turned down the job offer. Immediately after we spoke.» Whirl 11:20 pm @P: All right then. FakeProwl 11:20 pm @W «What's it matter?» Bevel 11:20 pm Play something happy. Windchill 11:20 pm Like. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:20 pm [[Hmm.]] Windchill 11:20 pm Penguins Whirl 11:20 pm @P: Just curious. You said you ARE a cop. Windchill 11:20 pm or Kittens. Whirl 11:20 pm @P: Thought it meant something. Windchill 11:20 pm Not the Madagascar ones. *Points* Eggs hatching. FakeProwl 11:20 pm @W «Well, I also said the iceberg is a culprit. Clearly I misspoke.» Whirl 11:21 pm How about... sea life. Underneath the ice. Maybe barnacles. Windchill 11:21 pm Hmm, barnacles are cool. Small Furry Dragon 11:21 pm Sea life has hard shells, lots of jaws, and will eat you. Whirl 11:21 pm *aloud, he snickers* @P: That IS true., Windchill 11:21 pm All of the other animals are like. Small Furry Dragon 11:21 pm That's the important part. Windchill 11:21 pm Vicious predators. Whirl 11:21 pm That's what I like about it! I've got a pet barnacle that dismembered someone, once. Windchill 11:21 pm Orca whales...which are porpoises, leopard seals...Penguins. Small Furry Dragon 11:21 pm ...You do what makes you happy. Whirl 11:22 pm ...and speaking of which--damn, good thing you reminded me. *looks over to the twins* Oi! You two. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:22 pm //Huh? What?// Whirl 11:22 pm I might need you to watch Killer again soon. Y'good? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:22 pm //It ain't knocked up again, is it?// Whirl 11:22 pm Not that I know of. Windchill 11:22 pm *Suspicious eyeballing Whirl's way, but he'll say nothing.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:23 pm //Cause I ain't handlin' barnapocalypse 2.0.// Whirl 11:23 pm Well, you're welcome to come and ask Killer, if you want. But I've got no idea what makes it get... frisky. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:23 pm //Pfff.// //How 'bout I take your word for it?// Whirl 11:23 pm *salutes* FakeProwl 11:23 pm *Has stopped watching the screen. Is just glaring at the floor, now.* Whirl 11:24 pm I'll bring it by next movie night? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:24 pm //Sure.// Whirl 11:24 pm And I'll comm you if I need it watched sooner. ..I like that sound, they make. Small Furry Dragon 11:24 pm *yawns* Organics have to sleep. Sorry. Thanks for letting me join, Soundwave. I'll send by something tomorrow. I'll make it first thing in the morning. Whirl 11:24 pm *peers at the scren* Small Furry Dragon 11:24 pm Night everyone! ItsyBitsySpyers 11:24 pm [[Goodnight, dragon.]] Whirl 11:24 pm Seeya, dragon. Bevel 11:24 pm Night Windchill 11:24 pm Bye... Whirl 11:25 pm *begins to mimic that penguin noise* Windchill 11:25 pm Sounds about right. Babies eat a lot. An outrageous amount, in fact. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:25 pm *Soundwave is still mostly looking at Prowl, trying to figure out how to help. Or if he should. ... Well, he can say one thing, at least. And hope it doesn't go wrong.* Windchill 11:25 pm Damn. Probably best that Swoop wasn't here for that display. Eheheh. Whirl 11:26 pm How far do you have to fly to feed the grub? Windchill 11:26 pm Depends. boomtank 11:27 pm -and he's standing up to leave- Thanks for the movie, I gotta go now. G'night ItsyBitsySpyers 11:27 pm [[Goodnight.]] Whirl 11:27 pm Seeya, Windchill 11:27 pm But I'll have to expand my range eventually. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:27 pm @Prowl: (txt): Soundwave liked descriptions. Not untrue. Windchill 11:27 pm It helps that I know where all of the old 'con mines are. boomtank 11:27 pm ((thanks for the stream, and g'night! Whirl 11:27 pm Hmm. Hey, Windchill? Windchill 11:27 pm Eh? Whirl 11:27 pm *makes a penguin noise right at him* Windchill 11:28 pm *Makes a gross dolphin noise right back.* FakeProwl 11:28 pm ((and now whirl and windchill are making the noises that mated birds use to locate each other)) Whirl 11:28 pm *recoils* Don't you spit on me you disgusting creature. (9JHDHK)) FakeProwl 11:28 pm ((you will never, ever be able to convince prowl you aren't in a relationship)) Windchill 11:28 pm *Sticks his tongue out. You summoned it.* Whirl 11:28 pm ((the legend LIVES ON)) Windchill 11:28 pm I am disgusting. The...Most Disgusting, even. Whirl 11:29 pm Keep THAT thing away from me, too. *he's pulling his legs back* Nah, not the most. FakeProwl 11:29 pm *acknowledging ping. prowl's indifferent to the comment.* Windchill 11:29 pm *Sucks it back into his head like a noodle.* Whirl 11:29 pm So. ...we're watching videos about animals. Windchill 11:29 pm Not the worst? I'll have to try harder. Whirl 11:29 pm What about frogs? Windchill 11:29 pm *Whispers.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:29 pm *...All right. He'll just. Let Prowl be. For now.* Windchill 11:29 pm Or True Facts about the Echidna. Or the uh. Bevel 11:29 pm ... Whirl 11:29 pm ... Windchill 11:30 pm Sea cucumber. Good stuff. Whirl 11:30 pm Damn. I'm glad we don't have to do this. Windchill 11:30 pm ...I suppose I'm lucky Riot hasn't absorbed me yet. Bevel 11:30 pm *impressed with this anglerfish's shifting abilities* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:30 pm *Wiggles a feeler to try to amuse himself.* Windchill 11:30 pm It sounds like something he might do. Whirl 11:30 pm Me too, honestly. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:30 pm *Doesn't quite manage.* Whirl 11:31 pm Watch out, Soundwave. You might catch something. Windchill 11:31 pm This one is good too. *He's seen it.* FakeProwl 11:31 pm *... stretches to reach under his back kibble.* Windchill 11:31 pm FROG! *points* We gotta. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:31 pm *Curious look* Windchill 11:31 pm ...After the owls. FakeProwl 11:31 pm *give him a moment to rummage.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:31 pm [[We will.]] Whirl 11:31 pm *points* That's my whole situation. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:31 pm *Rumble tries* Windchill 11:31 pm *Does it.* *Bobs his head.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:32 pm //HEY!// FakeProwl 11:32 pm *got it* Windchill 11:32 pm Like me. Bevel 11:32 pm Apes of hamburger. Windchill 11:32 pm Specialized. FakeProwl 11:32 pm *offers soundwave sham-wow* Windchill 11:32 pm Hunting machine. Whirl 11:33 pm Neat. Windchill 11:33 pm *Well, that reminds him of SOMEBODY.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:33 pm *...Looks at the sham-wow. Looks at Prowl. Then back to the sham-wow. ............. T...akes?* Windchill 11:33 pm *Somebody sitting next to him, in fact.* FakeProwl 11:33 pm *there, you anglerfish. Now you've got your bait.* Whirl 11:33 pm *excuse you he cannot eat anything. He can only drink* *he can, regrettably, vomit* ((he's gonna catch a Pipes)0 Huh. I... ItsyBitsySpyers 11:34 pm *Wiggles it around for a second, trying to understand what he's supposed to do with this. Wiggle. Wiggle. What is--? Wiggle. OH.* Whirl 11:34 pm They use sonar? Windchill 11:34 pm *The difference in appearance is minimal, sadly.* Yeah, kinda. Whirl 11:34 pm *stares. Since when did he and owls have so much in common* Whirl 11:35 pm ((I LOVE THAT ONE)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:35 pm *Maybe Prowl isn't quite that mad at him after all?* Windchill 11:35 pm Frog... Whirl 11:35 pm *perks up* Look at 'em. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:35 pm *...Wiggles the shamwow at Prowl.* Whirl 11:35 pm PRAISE. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:35 pm //Praise!// Windchill 11:36 pm Sexy winking. Whirl 11:36 pm *holds his drink aloft* FakeProwl 11:36 pm *looks at it.* Windchill 11:36 pm Look at its fingers. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:36 pm //Oh, gross.// FakeProwl 11:36 pm *... bats at it.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:36 pm //It's eating it!?// Whirl 11:36 pm Neat! Windchill 11:37 pm Amazing. Whirl 11:37 pm Brutal creatures. Wonderful. Windchill 11:37 pm Am I...a frog? Bevel 11:37 pm *giggles* Whirl 11:37 pm I am not a frog. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:37 pm *Ravage abruptly laughs himself off the bar and thunks* Windchill 11:37 pm *Leans over and whispers.* I might be a frog. Whirl 11:38 pm Well. You'd better tell Riot. Windchill 11:38 pm He knows. Whirl 11:38 pm ((oh hey NEDDLES)) ((IF ANYONE HAS A PHOBIA OF HOLES)) (9THERE IS A SURINAM TOAD IN THIS)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:38 pm ((OH GOD okay i won't look)) FakeProwl 11:38 pm ((oh right, the nasty frog)) ((yeah don't look)) Windchill 11:38 pm (( Ahaha here we go.)) (( I AM STRONG. )) Whirl 11:39 pm ((it's done!)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:39 pm ((i accidentally looked and my skin is crawling)) Whirl 11:39 pm Glad that we don't have to do THAT, either. (9OH NO NEDDLES IM SORRY)) ((I didn't think about it till we were partway through)) FakeProwl 11:39 pm ((i don't have a phobia of holes but THAT FROG almost makes me have one)) Windchill 11:39 pm I heard in some universes...it's similar. (( I am only bothered by holes in skin. Like that. )) FakeProwl 11:40 pm *oh hey there's a two hour and forty minute video of the titanic sinking in real time* Windchill 11:40 pm (( But I looked anyway because this is me we're talking about it. )) Whirl 11:40 pm ((i fine with that stuff)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:40 pm *Soundwave's feeler catches the hand batting at it and coils around the wrist. This is his now. ... He'll bite later. And not fuse.* *combined apology and affection ping. thank you.* Bevel 11:40 pm *loves them* FakeProwl 11:41 pm *all right. successfully played the part of the prey.* Whirl 11:41 pm These guys are pretty cool, too. Windchill 11:41 pm Fart ink. I can only aspire to such. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:41 pm [[They are smarter than many vertebrates as well.]] FakeProwl 11:41 pm *... affection ping* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:41 pm [[..."Head hole"?]] FakeProwl 11:41 pm ... There was a suggested video for a real-time collapse of the Titanic. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:42 pm [[There was?]] FakeProwl 11:42 pm Yes. On the last video, it was a suggestion on the side. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:42 pm [[Allow him to do two more and then he will look at it.]] Windchill 11:42 pm Hmmm. Whirl 11:42 pm Those are pretty cool. FakeProwl 11:42 pm *nods* Windchill 11:42 pm Mantis shrimp! The punching shrimp. Whirl 11:42 pm *looks down at his claws and extrudes his deedly-boppers. Horrible writhing things. They are not like suckers* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:43 pm *IF HE COULD DO THAT... if only* Windchill 11:43 pm My favourite, too. Bevel 11:43 pm I love them. Windchill 11:44 pm The pee pee arm. Whirl 11:44 pm *snrk* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:44 pm *He's suddenly glad his feeler was busy being an anglerfish and not an octopus arm.* Windchill 11:44 pm Looks like a fight. Egg. Whirl 11:45 pm Which is how fragging SHOULD look. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:45 pm [[...They're so tiny.]] Bevel 11:45 pm Itty bitty Windchill 11:46 pm I like the colours. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:46 pm //It looks kinda angry.// Whirl 11:47 pm It looks neat. Windchill 11:48 pm *Claps eagerly.* The fastest punch... Bevel 11:48 pm *it looks like a Soundwave she met once...* *also definitely a couple of Thundercrackers* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:49 pm *Isn't afraid of shrimp.* Windchill 11:49 pm I love them. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:49 pm *Is surrounded by seven of them most of the time* Whirl 11:50 pm ((PFFT)) FakeProwl 11:50 pm *one of them even has punchy arms* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:50 pm ((last one and then i'mma poke that other link)) Windchill 11:50 pm (( The kinkiest animal )) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:50 pm ((i've never seen this one but it was asked for so bear with me)) FakeProwl 11:50 pm ((if u mean prowl's suggestion it's literally 2 hours and 40 minutes u don't wanna see that)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:50 pm ((how do you know)) Bevel 11:50 pm ((i love snails i'm not sorry FakeProwl 11:50 pm ((because the youtube timestamp says so)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:51 pm ((no i mean that i wouldn't watch that)) FakeProwl 11:51 pm ((also because that's how long it took for the titanic to sink)) ((OH.)) ((well, for starters, it's midnight.)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:51 pm ((...true)) Whirl 11:51 pm ((if pipes were here he would be having flashbacks) Bevel 11:51 pm ((sorry pipes Whirl 11:51 pm ((they're not bad flashbacks) FakeProwl 11:51 pm ((was he impaled with majesty's love darts)) Bevel 11:51 pm ((oh well Whirl 11:51 pm ((ONLY HE KNOWS)) Bevel 11:51 pm ((not sorry pipes Whirl 11:51 pm (( 😎 )) hUH. That's. Hm. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:52 pm [[This is going nowhere he thought this would.]] Windchill 11:52 pm Oddly familiar. Whirl 11:52 pm *drains his drink* Windchill 11:52 pm Dung beetle. Oh man. *He's had to endure many a dung beetle joke.* Whirl 11:52 pm I think I'd admire that kinda chutzpah, myself. FakeProwl 11:53 pm Search "real time titanic." It'll be the first result. Windchill 11:53 pm What, sex darts in your head? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:53 pm ((...true facts about morgan freeman?? what???)) FakeProwl 11:53 pm ((wh.)) Whirl 11:53 pm AT my head, at least. Windchill 11:53 pm Well...I can't argue. Whirl 11:54 pm Ok, well, if you lot are going to watch this, I'll leave you morbid weirdos to it. FakeProwl 11:54 pm ... We can mute the narration, probably. Windchill 11:54 pm Yeah. No thanks. Whirl 11:54 pm *stands up and streetches* Windchill 11:54 pm You're leaving me? Whirl 11:54 pm All right, I will be here next week, for sure. And I'll try and bring Killer. Yep. Abandoning you to your fate. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:54 pm //An' a jar. Jus' in case.// Windchill 11:54 pm My just desserts. Bevel 11:55 pm Night, Whirl Whirl 11:55 pm I'll see if I can scare one up. Windchill 11:55 pm I'm gonna go, too. Whirl 11:55 pm Seeya, Bevel. *bobs his head to the rest of the room* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:55 pm *For a moment, Soundwave feels like someone was imitating him. But he didn't hear it. Weird.* [[Goodnight, Whirl.]] Bevel 11:56 pm *for once it wasn't her* FakeProwl 11:56 pm *slouches forward to re-chinhand and watch the video* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:56 pm *What do you mean, "for once". It shouldn't be an ever.* Bevel 11:56 pm *it's definitely a not ever yep yep >_>* Windchill 11:56 pm Bye, suckers. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:57 pm //Seeya!// Windchill 11:57 pm *Waves.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:57 pm *Curiously watches the chinhandsing. Prowl is oddly interested in this story. Is it the forensics thing? It's the forensics thing, isn't it?* Bevel 11:58 pm *interested in the broke ass mechanics that completely fucked this ship over, why would the water tight bulkheads only go partway up the ship?* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:59 pm *Because humans have a lot to learn about how to make things that aren't constructed out of meat?* Yesterday Bevel 11:59 pm *apparently but it was a flaw they knew about, surely that means they could have built a better way* FakeProwl 12:00 am *they're actually better at making things out of metal than they are at making things out of meat* Bevel 12:00 am *idk sentient life in nine months is pretty impressive* FakeProwl 12:00 am *well they don't TRY to make it. it's an automated process. they're incapable of DELIBERATELY constructing a new sentient life.* *giving humans credit for that would be like giving cybertronians credit for a new hot spot firing. ... or whatever goes on in bevel's universe.* Bevel 12:01 am *in most universes anyway. point made in this imaginary conversation* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:01 am *Bevel is a special case. And why are they not all saying these things out loud?* Bevel 12:02 am *well you see, when the well loves itself...* FakeProwl 12:02 am *... no reason* Bevel 12:02 am *too busy watching the ship sink in real time* FakeProwl 12:02 am *yeah, that. same.* ... Do you think the annoying narration is still going? ItsyBitsySpyers 12:03 am *Good. That means neither of them will notice him pulling the shamwow out of his feeler and inspecting it. He's going to test it on his vis--!* Bevel 12:03 am Maybe? ItsyBitsySpyers 12:03 am [[...We can check.]] Said while holding it to the glass. FakeProwl 12:04 am *... whose glass?* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:04 am *His face.* FakeProwl 12:04 am *then prowl doesn't notice yet* Bevel 12:04 am *Bevel hasn't noticed anything or she'd be in hysterics like the mun* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:05 am *...Seems to be in the clear. Clean clean.* Bevel 12:05 am ((omg i'm dying FakeProwl 12:05 am *soundwave may be pleased to discover that the sham-wow is EXTREMELY realistic* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:05 am *You bet your aft he is. How do we know this?* *Because he sits up a little and starts testing it on a bunch of other self surfaces too* *...This is really soft. How did Prowl's tires get leather and his face not have an internal structure for a so long but this is like a real thing?* *Who was in charge of priorities?* FakeProwl 12:07 am *hey, the upgraded version was designed to blend in among humans* *they added in textures for textiles and skins before they added in textures for facial mesh.* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:08 am *...Rub rub. Whoever they were, his hand appreciates them.* FakeProwl 12:08 am *humans wear a lot more leather jackets than rubber tires* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:09 am [[He doesn't remember drumming in the movie. Did the musicians have a secret drummer?]] FakeProwl 12:10 am I think that's the engine. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:10 am [[...That's impressive.]] [[But he is grateful his engine doesn't get that loud.]] [[It'd be Pit for stealth.]] Bevel 12:11 am That would be bad. FakeProwl 12:11 am You're also not that large. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:11 am [[Well, he's not perfect.]] This message has been removed. FakeProwl 12:12 am ... You don't need to be that large. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:12 am [[No, he doesn't. But he would easily get more observation done.]] FakeProwl 12:13 am Hm. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:13 am [[Instead of flying over a city he could simply look down on it and watch several portions at once.]] *Rub rub.* [{Of course, he'd also be seen.]] Bevel 12:14 am Less stealthy yeah. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:14 am [[And his spark would give out in a nanosecond. So. He'll stay as he is.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 12:15 am *On the plus side, if he was that big, Prowl wouldn't have to worry about following in Ice Cube's footsteps.* FakeProwl 12:20 am ... It doesn't look like they've rendered the people on the Titanic, have they? Bevel 12:20 am I do not see anyone. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:20 am [[They'd be too small to really be seen, wouldn't they?]] FakeProwl 12:20 am At this resolution they might be too small to see, but at least it would be possible to see if there were a mass of them. Maybe it's too early for crowds to have formed. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:21 am [[Ah, yes. There - it said they were only beginning the evacuation.]] FakeProwl 12:21 am Mm. They're still indoors. Bevel 12:21 am The lights on the side are only just starting to sink. FakeProwl 12:22 am *... watches as the lights disappear under the water, one by one.* Bevel 12:22 am *finds this depressing and interesting and not sure if she should feel bad for the latter* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:24 am *It IS depressing and interesting. It's also pushing him to unwanted thoughts now and again, which is why he keeps distracting himself with the shamwow and the occasional bit of chatter.* *But he is mostly watching.* FakeProwl 12:24 am *that's one row completely gone.* FakeProwl 12:26 am *it is depressing. he's not distracting himself from it.* Bevel 12:27 am ((i'm actually kind of fascinated grimly by this but i'm also thinking i should probably lay down like a responsible adult. boo FakeProwl 12:30 am ((go. be an adult.)) ((damn i missed the last message)) ((they need to like, ding when they've got a status update.)) Bevel 12:31 am ((that would be really nice Bevel 12:32 am ((only problem with being an adult is that bevel would watch the next two hours FakeProwl 12:32 am ((im gonna go get rid of my dirty dishes but im not gonna be an adult for another half an hour.)) ItsyBitsySpyers 12:32 am ((I looked away to catch up on dash and there's a whole row of lights gone again)) FakeProwl 12:32 am ((brb)) Bevel 12:33 am ((it's faster than you realize, which is terrifying ((ok, gonna be an adult. assume bevel is well and truly way too involved in this video FakeProwl 12:36 am ((back)) ItsyBitsySpyers 12:36 am *Rumble's just. Gonna slowly make his way over to Soundwave. And curl up against his arm.* ((wb)) FakeProwl 12:37 am *Heard a sound, glances over at the— Is Soundwave using Prowl's sham-wow* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:38 am *...................Maybe. He might be quietly scrubbing at his leg with it.* FakeProwl 12:38 am *... stares.* *... all righty then. gonna. look back at the video.* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:39 am *Feel free.* FakeProwl 12:40 am *there goes another row of lights.* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:40 am [[The -first-?]] FakeProwl 12:40 am ... They made the decision to evacuate the ship—what—twenty minutes ago? ItsyBitsySpyers 12:41 am *Particularly rough swipe with the cloth.* [[It's been most of an hour.]] FakeProwl 12:41 am Why did they only send a distress call now? ItsyBitsySpyers 12:41 am [[Because they're idiots.]] [{Or were.]] [[The humans still would not have survived in the sea, but at least the rescue ship would have arrived quicker.]] FakeProwl 12:42 am That's an unacceptable answer. It's a dismissive answer that allows the real causes—preventable causes—to be ignored. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:43 am [[They were clearly untrained, unprepared, and uncontrolled.]] FakeProwl 12:43 am "It happened because they're idiots" is no more useful than "it happened because of an act of gods." Acts of god can no more be prevented than idiocy. Chalking the situation up to idiocy is as good as saying that nothing could have been done. WHICH idiocy, specifically, made them take the better part of an hour to send out a call—even twenty minutes after they chose to evacuate? Were they understaffed and couldn't spare someone to man the radio? Did they need to get their radio operator out of bed? Did they disagree on which distress signal to send out? Specific things—preventable things—things that can be addressed. Things that can be changed so that the same idiocy doesn't happen in the future. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:45 am [[He expects hubris played a role.]] [[And a desire not to upset the precious, fragile little high caste humans.]] FakeProwl 12:46 am Hubris doesn't explain why it took another twenty minutes after they got over their hubris and admitted they had to abandon ship. They were willing to disturb their fragile little high caste humans from their beds twenty minutes before they called for help, and a call for help needn't be heard by the high caste humans. If THAT were their motive, the call for help would have come twenty minutes before they worked up the nerve to wake their passengers. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:48 am [[He doesn't know why. Perhaps nobody knows why. If the movie is to be believed, much of the crew went down with it.]] [[The narration isn't telling us.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 12:49 am *Look at the gap. There could have been boats in that gap.* FakeProwl 12:49 am ... Things could have been different. Things could have been done differently. They could have been trained differently. They could have been trained better. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:50 am *The hesitation and the repetition catch his attention. He stops scrubbing at his leg and stares at Prowl.* FakeProwl 12:50 am Even once it was too late to load up the ship with more lifeboats and too late to avoid a collision—they could have reacted differently. They only had enough boats to save half the passengers, but half the passengers COULD have been saved. Roughly. Barring unavoidable accidents, broken boats, an inability to lower them properly due to the ship's listing... FakeProwl 12:53 am If someone clever enough was on board they could have started tearing up the tables and benches to make rafts. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:53 am [[...They should have had someone like you.]] *Scrub scrub.* FakeProwl 12:54 am ... I— I would have... *falls silent* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:55 am [[Protected them?]] FakeProwl 12:56 am ... I would have been the one locking poor passengers behind gates to prevent riots around the lifeboats. ItsyBitsySpyers 12:56 am *Oh.* FakeProwl 12:58 am ... When there's only enough room for half the passengers to survive, the other half need to be prevented from fighting for a place on boats that can't fit them. Fighting reduces survivors. It would be the only... *falls silent again.* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:58 am *And he said he would see the people locking them behind doors locked up themselves.* *Way to go, self.* [[It is not the only way.]] FakeProwl 1:01 am *doors were opened that were never used. murmurs,* So disorganized. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:02 am [[They waited far too long. For everything. Passengers were noticing the water before they were told. They were not brought up until there was barely time left to board. People panic when there is no time.]] FakeProwl 1:02 am People panic when the boats are full and there's no room left for them, too. People panic when ships are sinking. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:04 am [[Then that's the real problem. The boats.]] FakeProwl 1:05 am In the proposed scenario it's too late to do anything about the boats. The number is the number and there should have been enough for everyone, but there aren't. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:05 am [[There would be if someone attentive enough insisted on having them and not catering to delicate visual sensibilities.]] FakeProwl 1:06 am And when there aren't enough boats for everyone, someone has to choose who's to die. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:06 am [[And did not bow before policymakers who do not care about those lower than themselves.]] FakeProwl 1:06 am *nods at the notice that just came on the screen* Lightoller chose men. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:09 am [[Organics often choose that. The newbuilds will grow to be the new adults.]] FakeProwl 1:09 am Who they chose isn't important. What's important is a choice had to be made. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:10 am [[Who they choose -is- important.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 1:12 am [[You do not think it would be possible to allow only some of the rich and some of the poor? There was no other place they could have gathered the rich to allow the crew to separate them into groups? Only this fancy dining hall that, again, would not offend them?]] [[They could not have lied and said women and children to the left side boats, men to the right, and then locked the men away?]] FakeProwl 1:13 am No, they couldn't have. The couples and families would have objected and insisted that they stay together. They would have furiously protested their separation. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:13 am [[Then simply separate the group as a whole.]] [[Half here, half there.]] FakeProwl 1:14 am There was a notice on the screen earlier about a couple that refused to part, so they both stayed on the ship and put their maid on the lifeboat instead. That would have happened en masse. They would have followed their mates to the wrong sides of the ship. That's what locking up half of them does. Half here, half there. Which half doesn't matter—whichever half is EASIEST to lock up is the half that SHOULD be locked up, because time was short and elaborate gimmicks waste precious minutes. Getting the passengers together en masse and splitting them into two would have taken half an hour. If the ship's already segregated in half, it takes five minutes to lock one half away and ensure there won't be hundreds of doomed lives milling on the top deck when they find out there aren't enough boats. Which half is saved doesn't matter. Just that it's the EASIEST half. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:16 am [[That condemns the poor for circumstances beyond their control, often to the point of their birth. They are placed in a position where they are beneath everyone, and then when lives are at stake, they are confirmed as worthless.]] [[And the rich were no better. They were corrupt. Selling their creations, abusing each other.]] FakeProwl 1:17 am And that's damn tragic and should never have to happen. But I would rather save a thousand rich lives than five hundred mixed lives. Not because the rich deserve it any more than the poor, but because there's five hundred more survivors. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:18 am [[Then you should be the person in charge of designing the ship so that -nobody- needs to perish.]] FakeProwl 1:18 am That's not the POINT! We're talking about what happens when it's ALREADY too late! I'm not the person who designs ships, I'm the person who has to choose who dies! I'm ALWAYS the person who has to choose who dies! ItsyBitsySpyers 1:19 am [[And his point is that you do not have to be.]] [[At least not only when it is too late.]] FakeProwl 1:20 am *face screws up. forcibly smooths it. looks away.* ... We're never going to have a world so perfect that there won't have to be choices between who lives and who dies. It's an impossibility. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:23 am [[Of course it is. We are fallible creatures. There are probably entire universes dying every day, and he cannot fulfill his oath and help save them all. But we can try to minimize the need.]] FakeProwl 1:24 am I can't save all the idiots from themselves. I spent four million years trying. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:25 am [[So did he. Not quite to your extent. Our faction beliefs were too different. But near enough.]] FakeProwl 1:25 am How'd that work out for you. ... I'm sorry. That was uncalled for. ItsyBitsySpyers 1:31 am [[It was.]] [[And it didn't. Our population is smaller than yours and mostly comprised of Vehicons and Insecticons, he lost everyone but Laserbeak, and the Decepticons tore themselves apart.]] [[Lately, he has been trying something new. Abandoning all the weak results in losses he cannot accept. Nor will he continue catering only to those who are already powerful.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 1:34 am [[And he is certain he will fail more often than not. But he is tired of doing the same thing.]] FakeProwl 1:35 am *... if that's a moral Soundwave considers relevant to the conversation, then he's missed Prowl's point completely.* ItsyBitsySpyers 1:35 am [[He understands the desire for maximum efficiency.]] FakeProwl 1:36 am *prowl doesn't think it's worth correcting. doesn't matter.* ItsyBitsySpyers 1:41 am *He pauses. His words aren't working. He knows what Prowl's trying to get at. He knows what he's trying to get at. He can't quite make them meet in the middle. Trying anyway.* FakeProwl 1:45 am *returns to watching the video* ItsyBitsySpyers 1:57 am [[But perfection is not possible for imperfect creatures. Mechs will die or be hurt. He may lose one of his deployers again, or himself, or you. He would rather not, but he might. And it might be him choosing. If it is, he will try to get as close to his ideal as he can.]] [[But he would prefer to put himself in a position where he can learn and guide and ensure that he rarely has to do it, until his interference is not needed.]] *Tiny vent. This isn't right. He hates his head for limiting him out loud when it's so powerful inside.* [[We aren't filling boats anymore. Those ships sank, and we cannot recover the lives we lost. He is trying to help design a new one so that you do not -have- to make those choices.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 1:59 am [[Primus knows Starscream will only choose himself. You, at least, will try to get as many as you can, and he can sneak others into the spaces left behind.]] FakeProwl 2:02 am *watches silently as one lifeboat almost lands on another* *he doesn't want to load lifeboats anymore. he wants to sit on the ship and watch it sink. he's not going to say that.* ItsyBitsySpyers 2:03 am *Soundwave kind of already knows.* *Not the extent of it, that it goes past Prowl to encompass the whole planet. But the idea that Prowl, at least, would like to jump the rails.* FakeProwl 2:05 am *dully* I'm glad the orchestra kept playing. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:08 am [[As is he.]] Another tiny vent. [[Sentimental beings, music lovers.]] FakeProwl 2:09 am Well-trained. They did their jobs properly when many others did not. No one would have blamed them or remembered if they hadn't. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:13 am [[No, they wouldn't. And he does not think they would be considered responsible for anything, unlike the other crew members.]] [[But it likely gave some of the escapees and the doomed a few more moments of comfort.]] [[He would not like to die to silence, himself.]] FakeProwl 2:15 am ... I think I would. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:15 am [[...Why?]] *Realizing that might sound judgmental, he quickly tags it as curiosity.* FakeProwl 2:16 am ... I don't know. FakeProwl 2:18 am ... I don't want to be distracted, I suppose. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:18 am [[From the experience?]] FakeProwl 2:18 am From my own death. It seems like the sort of thing I shouldn't only be paying half attention to. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:19 am [[He supposes not. There wouldn't be a do-over.]] Pauses to look down at Rumble, who is sleeping with his arms locked around Soundwave's forearm. [[Usually.]] FakeProwl 2:20 am Hopefully. *... shouldn't have said that.* ItsyBitsySpyers 2:26 am [[...You asked him to extinguish you if you were badly damaged. When - after the pipe. He didn't listen then.]] *Thinking about Rose on the rails and what Prowl said during the movie.* [[He apologizes for that. If it is ever his duty, he will do what he promised when he became your ally. And he will try to keep the area quiet.]] [[But he would--]] Long silence. [[He would talk about you.]] FakeProwl 2:27 am *goes very still* ... It doesn't matter. The pipe DIDN'T cause permanent damage. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:31 am [[No. It didn't. He is thankful for that.]] [[He would rather talk -to- you.]] FakeProwl 2:32 am I know. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:32 am *The big pipes falling reminds him of Tyran Ratchet. He turns away from the screen for a second.* *And just nods.* ItsyBitsySpyers 2:34 am *Pulls his tarp tighter.* FakeProwl 2:34 am ... It sank so fast at the end. ItsyBitsySpyers 2:36 am [[It did. He assumes it was because there was nothing to block the water.]] FakeProwl 2:38 am Yes, it was very streamlined like that. But it's still just... Two and a half hours. And then, seconds. Not streamlined. aerodynamic. ... Aquadynamic? ItsyBitsySpyers 2:40 am [[...He likes that one. Use that one.]] [[It still surprises you that things move so quickly.]] Not quite a question, not quite a statement. FakeProwl 2:40 am It's not surprise. It's... *he doesn't know what it is. shakes his head.* ItsyBitsySpyers 2:41 am *...Kind of wondering if Prowl is wondering if it's like that to die.* FakeProwl 2:42 am ... What's that video? The six unexplainable mysteries. *oh. premonitions and conspiracy theories. he'd been hoping for forensic mysteries.* FakeProwl 2:48 am *... those were all horrible* ItsyBitsySpyers 2:49 am *He wouldn't know. His mind was very much elsewhere. Like here:* [[It's only over in seconds in reality, you know.]] FakeProwl 2:49 am *wasn't the loss terrible enough without conspiracy theories that it was deliberate?* *gives Soundwave a baffled look* ... Well, yes, I suppose so. *they dragged it out for, what, 15, 20 minutes in the movie?* ItsyBitsySpyers 2:52 am [[No. No. The--]] He rubs his crest with his free hand. [[In reality, it only takes seconds. Sometimes. But in your spark, in your mind, it's hours. Days. Longer. Sometimes he feels twice his age.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 2:59 am [[He wouldn't want silence. He's already dealt with it five times without distraction. Ten, with the copies. It's--]] His hand drops and covers his visor, then slides to his lap. [[For all that he would willingly take for himself, he would never ask to feel that again.]] FakeProwl 3:00 am *... oh. Soundwave's not talking about the ship sinking.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:00 am [[The ones in the water, the ones falling, all of them - it was not seconds to them.]] FakeProwl 3:01 am *well, NOW he's talking about the ship sinking, but.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:02 am *Sometimes he wonders what it did to Starscream. He'll try not to think about that too.* FakeProwl 3:02 am *glances at soundwave, then looks at the screen. what does he say to that? what does he possibly say to that.* FakeProwl 3:04 am ... If you're dying in front of me, I'll sing for you. I mean—no, obviously, if you're dying in front of me, I'll try to stop it. That's the first priority. I just mean—hypothetically—if I can't— *he's going to stop before he makes it worse.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:07 am *He can't turn his whole self without waking Rumble, so he just pulls the hand he never let go of to his face and presses it against his visor.* *And nods.* FakeProwl 3:08 am ... *scoots next to Soundwave* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:10 am *Curls an arm and a feeler around Prowl and is quiet.* FakeProwl 3:11 am ... I probably, just—strike you as profoundly spoiled and ungrateful. ItsyBitsySpyers 3:15 am [[No. More fortunate, overall. Angry. Depressed. Lost. Mistreated.]] FakeProwl 3:16 am Never had a near death experience. ... Or a vicarious death experience. ItsyBitsySpyers 3:16 am [[Knock Out is profoundly spoiled and Starscreams are ungrateful. You are neither.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 3:17 am [[More fortunate overall, as he said. And you cannot have the second. He is built for something you are not. He will not blame you for that.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 3:19 am [[But he will - did - tell you.]] FakeProwl 3:19 am *... has to stop and think a few comments back.* *"depressed"? "lost"?* *... yeah. maybe so.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:23 am *He is qualified to recognize both on a personal-experience basis and is certain it's more than a maybe.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:26 am [[His apologies. His glossa has run away with him.]] FakeProwl 3:26 am *shakes head* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:26 am *Pulls the tarp off himself with free feeler and drapes it over Rumble instead.* FakeProwl 3:27 am *... is prowl's hand still on soundwave's face. runs thumb along the edge of his visor.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:30 am *Still is. He presses against it and into the thumb, then returns the gesture, though his thumb strokes the bottom of a chevron instead. There's no visor. Yet.* [[You will need rest soon. Tonight has been...]] Rough? Depressing? Frightening? Sentimental? Awkward? Frustrating? [[...A night.]] FakeProwl 3:34 am Mm. *he doesn't want to leave yet.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:38 am *Lets his arm drift down to Prowl's shoulder and pulls. If Prowl's going to insist on staying, Soundwave doesn't mind being a pillow. He's used to sleeping in piles anyway.* FakeProwl 3:39 am *leans on Soundwave. optics don't dim. he isn't tired.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:41 am *Someone Prowl hates would probably say Soundwave was projecting. Soundwave would probably throw them under the nearest steamroller.* FakeProwl 3:42 am *Soundwave would have Prowl's eternal gratitude.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:44 am *That, and telling himself the flickering out is for work or recharge keeps him from worrying too much.* *He'd wear that proudly. If secretly. Nobody else would need to know why he had it.* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:46 am [[Sing before that happens.]] Pause. That's rude, isn't it? [[Please.]] FakeProwl 3:46 am ... Before what happens? *lost the train of conversation somewhere* ItsyBitsySpyers 3:48 am [[What you said earlier. So it is associated with something pleasant.]] Another pause. [[Not now, necessarily. But some time. He likes hearing your voice.]] And a third. [[Now it -is- running away.]] FakeProwl 3:49 am ... Which thing I said earlier? Oh. *it took him a moment to work it out* Yes. Right. Sure. Just—don't die, and we won't have to worry about it. ItsyBitsySpyers 3:50 am [[He isn't planning to. Though he would like to eventually hear it anyway.]] ItsyBitsySpyers 3:52 am *Primus, he needs to block himself from being able to write text messages before he says or does something he can't take back or smooth over.* *...Some more.* FakeProwl 3:54 am *small nod*
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