#SMG4 Rant

[perfecttragedyraspberry]

Personally I think they should add some kick, some drive back into the SMG34 ship. Like add some angst, trauma, fights that last over multiple episodes. So here is my rant.

Personally for me, I really want them to delve into SMG4's trauma with IGBP because there's no way in fucking hell he doesn't have struggles from that still. Or even just moments where he's pained wit what happened and what he did to people. Even if they have forgiven him, add some interesting angst to him. Or give him an obstacle that forces him to recollect IGBP or reface those very emotions he felt during that time.

Then with SMG3, as much as I love the silly character he is now. I want to see more of his struggles. In the movies he has been in it's not like he's had to like grow from his actions or in actions. Unless we count when he went to save 4 and Mario at puzzlepark, or 4 in IGBP. But even in smaller episodes it feels like when he does have growth it's not touched upon. And no I don't want them to spoon-feed fans characterizations, but I want more of a focus on a change on the characters as episodes go further. Personally I want a movie around him as his struggles and maybe have him do it with some of the nonmain cast. Put an obstacle in his way to make him get either a traumatic experience or something that makes it hard for him to act as he usually does.

SMG3 is such an interesting character if we want to look at him being a rival. I guess they aren't much anymore but normally the more angsty codes rival gets beat down on time and time again making them come to terms with some new emotions or trauma. We haven't really seen much of that lately in the last few years. As much as I love him being silly in the cafe, make it an apparent issue of why the cafe is something important to show how far he's come. Or anything else really. In a sense I kinda want him to get the shadow treatment but obviously not in the same way. Like why is it not covered more on why he feels lesser than 4? That is such an interesting thing to consider that the have not really delved into. And I really don't understand why they aren't. Its something they could really use to open up his character and then make him falter or face some obstacles. Why are they letting this go to waste? Please I just want him to get a little fucked over.

Maybe I'm just an English major looking to hard into characters, but fuck I want my favs to get some interesting stories again. Not that I don't like they're current stories, I think they deserve a little trauma as a treat.

[yagirlyubnub]

Religion in the smg4 universe

so like. Heaven���s a thing. And hell’s a thing. Jesus and god are a thing. Satan’s a thing, there might be multiple of them, and one of them’s papa John. Then there’s sunset Paradise, which I’m not sure how it connects to the main smg4 world but apparently it DOES, and that has the fuckin PHEONIX

Also the internet graveyard. Does that count as some sort of afterlife??????

[troubldteenz]

Toxic Yaoi💔

[meg-girumi]

"01001001 01110100 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01000101 01001110 01000100"

Thought that he looks very... VERY similar to Puzzleman from UnderHero

⬇️Anyway. My thoughts about WOTFI 2024!⬇️

That. Was. Something... First of all I didn’t expect for Puzzles to swear in the first 3 minutes of movie (Like it’s the sign that he went way too coo-coo crazy).

The challenges were fun to watch but I don’t have much to say 'bout them. Except that these two scenes made me laugh)

Next the song! It was fire as always (I generally like this types of songs. And looks like this one is going to be on repeat for the next few weeks. Yet "Creative control" still in the first place. Btw the "Creative control" is what brought me to the smg4 community so yeah) And the epic battle that comes along with the song! Noice :]

This one scene reminded me of Puzzleman

Like literally:

Up next this frames

I’m just speechless. The side that we thought bout but never seen. Inner child… (and a blue screen. I’ve tried reading it but it’s too difficult)

Also scene where Meggy meets Kid Puzzles is cute and sad at the same time. Kinda wanted to see more of it

The ending was quite unsettling (even though I’ve expected to some sh-t to hit the fan)

But putting Puzzles in F-NG MENTAL ASYLUM??!!! Sheesh, man…

Overall I liked it! The new merch is also cool! I really want that hoodie…

As for Mr. Puzzles future I think it would be funny that in few months he’d return "normal" (or at least pretend to be normal to get out of here) with a health certificate proving that he’s (not) fine

And I REALLY hope that it won't be like after Puzzlevision where he returned almost right after.

[the-lion-guard-88]

Guys this is way too funny

“The PUZZLEVISION Saga ruined my generation, I’m Gen Alpha and 13”

Kid, you know what ruined Gen Alpha?

The amount of brain rot majority of kids nowadays look at such as the SK word that I refuse to say

I know we had SKPuzzlebox, but guess what? “Mr. Puzzles’ Lowest Point” was literally an episode to point fingers at kids nowadays with Mr. Puzzles’ full crashout

The PUZZLEVISION Saga is NOT brain rot

It’s a work of art /ref

The stuff Gen Alpha kids watch nowadays is just a show about heads in toilets at war with no plot

The PUZZLEVISION Saga, however, has a whole story to it that left people laughing, crying, and getting intrigued with the amount of artistic ability in it because it had smooth animation, it had voice actors in which the villain put out his entire heart and soul to do those lines, it had TWO KILLER SONGS that left many people like myself binge-listening to them

But most importantly

It had a story

In other words

You may think people should want SMG4 to be deleted

But other people including myself only have three words to say about the PUZZLEVISION Saga

Those three words being

[grinnames]

Godbox AU x The Fallen AU: Two Monsters

My hand slipped, here's what happened as a result:

Godbox!4 and Fallen!4 have a little heart-to heart.

AKA Fallen!4 faces his demons, both literally and metaphorically.

Fallen AU by @michaelscorneroftheinternet and @dorriostareyes

This idea has been in my head for a while! I just thought that this interaction would be really interesting, because Godbox!4 would definitely have very complicated feelings about Fallen AU. Godbox!4 doesn't necessarily enjoy killing, and only does it if it's for his evil plans, or if he thinks it would be funny. (For example, he is more likely to enjoy dropping a piano on someone's head more than just stabbing someone like a commoner) He also gets a little sad when people die, because then there is no more fun to be had with them!

He is also always down for tormenting Godbox!3 and any other SMG3 for the matter, however he also hates betrayal, and knows exactly what it's like to be left for dead (even though that's a lie that the Entity twisted his mind to believe) He'll find himself sympathizing with Fallen!3's plight. So, in some twisted way, he would not like Fallen!4 and would be quite disgusted with him.

However, he would also have this sort of morbid fascination with Fallen!4 as well...

I also wanted to try out some new speech bubbles!

[sh00t4th3m00n]

I just realized something and I need to fume for a second.

Ok so we all remember Mr. Puzzles' dad's reaction when Little Puzzles told him about wanting to own an amusement park:

But then he says this immediately after:

At first I was confused because I thought these two lines sounded contradictory. Like, you just said his dream of owning an amusement park was childish, but wait, now it's suddenly this elite, respectable, super-aspirational thing that's only possible with "CrEaTiVe ViSiOn," which is apparently such a high bar that Little Puzzles will "never have it?" You get what I'm saying?

But then it hit me: he's bullcrapping and 100% aware he's bullcrapping. He doesn't care about "creative vision" or think that highly of it, BUT he knows Little Puzzles DOES care about it. He cares about it a lot. And he uses it to present his shooting down of his dream in a way he knows Little Puzzles will understand and take to heart. Even if he himself doesn't share the mindset that gives it its bite because it's what'll get Little Puzzles to shut up. (And maybe this is me being overanalytical, but I feel like you can even see it in his pose when he says it. Like he's doing the "waving your hands in a sarcastically whimsical way" move, you know the one. That one line just oozes condescension.) Like it wasn't enough to voice his distaste for Puzzles' dream; he had to make him feel bad for even having it just to really cement it. Like he learned to speak Little Puzzles' language just enough to tell him his dreams were stupid.

And it makes me HATE THIS MAN EVEN MORE.

[waterizsilly-comms-open]

I hate you so much wpnz

SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!

LETSSS GOOO, HES THE FATHER, most of my theories were correct about him and Karen teehee

Also Mr puzzles???!?!? NOOOO, stay dead at the asylum my guy/j

Hopefully we get a good arc with the both of them in it or in gonna cry

Ultimate team up imma right?/j(im cringe ik)

Also he's not a fish or something, he's genuinely made out of weapons-

Ok—

Anyways, lil rant about his character

Seems like he genuinely did want to be together again with them, but his ambitions as an assassin blinded him,as well as his arrogance, he's def gonna get along well with puzzles/hj

Like I'm actually really mad tho, I knew he was gonna like turn bad at the end but like- noooo, they were so sweet💔💔

It's fine(no it's not)

Hopefully, HOPEFULLY, this'll be the end if Mr puzzles's arc (when they make the new movie and stuff) cuz gosh just- stay dead dude, also wpnz, get therapy, you fumbled hard with Karen, like just get therapy and you might have a chance, or not and just get sent to jail, I'm fine with either LOLLL

[ressoverkr]

SMG4 Fandom: WE WANT THINGS MORE FASTER ON THIS SAGA!!!

SMG4: If you all say so... *Brings Mr. Puzzles back more faster*

SMG4 Fandom: NOOOO!!! WHY DID YOU BRINH HIM SO FAST 😭😭😭😭😭😭

If you're going to ask for something, please don't complain once you get it 🙏

[milkissesx]

I’m not american, I’m not from the USA, but I DO have to say that this health insurance revenge thing going on is pleasantly entertaining. Quite humorous and exciting to see people support this, as capitalism has hurt so many people, it’s basically considered mass murder. So for anyone that’s a snowflake and hurt by these people celebrating, reflect on yourself and ask if you’re truly upset about this.

These people are scamming citizens that are on life support, need medical attention, and leaving them to die.

MILLIONS of people die, they’re getting killed by these corrupt CEOs. So how can they NOT be serial killers, but the man who did us all a favour IS a killer? Not logical.

[vextheallay]

On This week's doodle list, we gor

A height comp between 3 and my Human Eggdog design. How tall would Eggdog actually be based on this?

Speaking of Human Eggdog design

Working on it

A wild snake SMG3 asking for food

@coralalala64's little bat Vampire boi. He might be tiny but he is full of anger!

And an SMG3 that needs to fucking sleep

[ominus-potato]

Just asking how do you feel about smg34?

Prepare for a long rant lol bc oh boy do I have opinions on this.

I like the ship, don’t get me wrong, but they’re just really god damn boring for me. Not quite as boring as Melony x Axol but still very vanilla.

It’s just a typical enemies to lovers trope which is so overdone now. They aren’t even enemies anymore. Just frenemies. Let’s face it, they’re never going to be canon. Their relationship will forever be teased but I will be VERY surprised if the SMG4 team actually follow through with them. The moments are nice but it’s just fan service.

2023 was an amazing year for SMG34 and it showed a real development in their relationship with IGBP and Wotfi 2023. But honestly, outside of a few teases, I really don’t think we’re going to be getting any concrete development for them for a while.

Without development, they really are just textbook enemies to lovers and that trope just doesn’t interest me on its own. Especially when they’re past the enemies phase but not quite lovers. It feels like they’re just eternally stuck in this weird grey area that only exists for the sake of fan service and I just couldnt care less about that kind of stuff.

Especially when SMG34 fans absolutely loose their shit about them standing next to each other when they’re the two characters who have had the most development out of everyone! Like bro. The SMG4 team are just fucking with you lot and you eat it up every time until it becomes the whole focus of the entire show!

Like, a side character could appear that we haven’t seen in a year and I just see countless people complaining that “ohhh SMG3 wasn’t in this episode!” Or “Ohh why didn’t SMG34 interact!” But if they DO interact then everyone just completely brushes aside the side character to just fawn over the thing that has more content than anything else!

Oh and god forbid you say you ship SMG4 or SMG3 with someone else. This is mostly directed at the TikTok SMG4 community but bloody hell it’s so annoying.

“NOO SMG4 LOVES SMG3! NOT MARIO!!”

“*SMG3 comes in to steal SMG4 away from Peach*”

“Hmm but I like SMG34 :(“

LIKE STFU THIS ISNT ABOUT THEM! I posted a video dedicated to rarepairs bc I love rarepairs and want to bring more attention to them and I got way too many comments about SMG34 when they are by far the most popular ship in the fandom.

And don’t get me started on the Snowtrapped jokes.

Fuck. Ing. HELL CAN WE PLEASE GET A NEW JOKE?

“Ha ha they did the boombaya in an igloo”

“Snowtrapped 2.0 when??”

“They need to remake Snowtrapped.”

The obsession some fans have with that episode just bc SMG3 and SMG4 had sex in it is honestly just irritating at this point. There are so many good episodes about their relationship! To show their development! One joke every so often is fine but for some people it’s every other word out of their mouths and I’m just sick of it.

What if Mar4 shippers just started going:

“Haha Wotfi 2014!” Over and over again. Or some of the other episodes where they are insanely homosexual with one another. Bc I’m telling you, way too many people brush over the Mar4 tension in the earlier episodes.

In conclusion, SMG34 is that ship you start to ship when you first join a fandom bc it’s cute, there lots of content for it, and it makes sense. A lot of people hold onto that first ship but for me, I end up finding dynamics that interest me a lot more. Now, I only really interact with SMG34 content if one of my friends has made it bc I just struggle to get excited about it now.

If ever there’s a moment in an episode that’s cute, instead of enjoying it, all I can think about is how a scene of SMG3 and SMG4 standing next to eachother is going to completely destroy any actual conversation about the episode.

I don’t hate the ship. I do like it. But it’s just so basic.

I’ll take a rarepair over SMG34 any day.

[theartistisme43]

I hate to put this in the main tag, but GUYS. STOP FUCKING GATEKEEPING CHARACTERS. It is NOT illegal for someone to ship a character like SMG3 with someone else, or any character for that matter! Unless it’s a proship and just a person having fun, leave them fucking be or I swear to god. There’s more to life than trashing people with fiction, and if you don’t like it, don’t look. We’re all here to collectively enjoy SMG4, not fight over ships that aren’t even illegal 😭 I’m sorry but there’s been too much fighting here. I love smg34, but I fucking hate pointless discourse. Let’s let people have fun with characters and ocs.

[daydreamersinasylum]

Are you okay, Puzzles..? (910-P..?)

"Hey.. I couldn't help but notice you're in my stargazing spot.."

He walks up to me.. from the ladder, specs of dust brushed away as he sits.. rather comfortably next to me.. eventually in my lap?

"I-I should go.."

A hand grabs my leg, "Don't go, please..? Teddy would be sad.."

He really doesn’t know who I am.. or.. or does he? I watch as he sits.. bringing out what looks like a damaged, well used notebook full of drawings.. wait a second.. this was my astrology book.. gasp

"Did you want to log constellations with me..? Maybe something spectacular happens tonight!! Is that why you're up here, mister?"

“Hey.. I believe one of the dippers are showing up tonight..”

“Really??"

He nods, smiling softly at the young Puzzles, “I believe so.. do you trust me?”

“If you could predict a meteor shower, in your dreams!” They both end up laughing, Little Puzzles moreso.

“Do you imagine what it’s like to see the stars up close.. a telescope, situated right here? The movies exploration of the moon must have been extraordinary..”

Little Puzzles sits at my knee, “A telescope?? I’ve always wanted one of those.. they make them so futuristic in cartoons.. I have my toys but they’re nothing like the real thing. I'm glad you think space is cool too.. people just call me some sort of nerd!"

I chuckle as he rambles on.. amusing little gentleman, he has been a charmer, an 'Annie' all these years..

"If we got a telescope.. I'd love to share with you.. mommy taught me all about sharing! It's what friends do, they have all sorts of fun in the movies anyways.. if only Dad would let me have friends sleepover, then we'd work together and save for one ourselves! It'll be just like the movies!"

“Yeah.. you got that right. Everything does look cooler in the movies..”

I look down.. disdain.. not even in my older years did I not get to use a real telescope until I think my college years. I got glimpses, but not full ones with the TV head making it hard to use-- my screen glitches as the unfortunate fact resurfaces. . .

I-I cut off my own head before I got to truly experience using a telescope normally..

If he knew who he became.. who I was? How can I ever face him.. knowing I did this to him.. m-my poor younger self, his innocent face.. this flashback I'm in seems to be a few years before the INCIDENT. He must be about 6 years old by now..

I look to young Puzzles, as he points out various constellations and sets of stars we get to see.. our home, fenced, against a big hill towards the city.. the city where I always dreamed afar, my inspiration grew to be a movie star.. I hold my face as I feel my TV screen shift.. articulating my thoughts. It flickers.. and flickers... as my thoughts overtake my usually arrogant.. ego-maddened expression. I can't.. I can't make it stop..

Am I having a panic attack?

My senses heighten as I realize I'm struggling to breathe.. my heartbeat drumming out of my chest.. i-it hurts.. a gasp.. static all over my body as I panic.. I can't move.. everything HURTS. Wincing, I hold my head.. but no matter how much I hold it-- I can't help myself like I did with a h-human head..

He notices as I lie down.. my thoughts drowning out my ideal TV expression, “Are you alright..?”

.

.

.

My thought bubble bursts,

“What..? I’m n-not.. alright..?”

I sit up slowly, as if I didn't hear him properly.. the ringing in my head won't leave me alone like the voices that have taunted me all night..

“Did.. you want to talk about it..?”

I look surprised.. as I maintain my gaze to the stars I loved so much, what could I possibly say that won’t traumatize him..? I can’t exactly tell him my thoughts as if he were my therapist..

After a while.. I feel him laying his head on my leg.. awkwardly. “You uhm.. don’t have to answer.. if you don’t want to.”

My ever loving question is.. how does he see me? Feel my presence? Is he also a hallucination..?? Where is Stardust!? SHE DISSAPPEARED!

“Starlight? Are you on the roof again?”

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(Guys, I think he's spiraling, hope he doesn't fall off the roof.. but if he does, make it a blanket burrito. -- Cosmic)

[meg-girumi]

"The council is going to decide your fate..."

This little puzzle piece of- finally arrived!

I'M SO HAPPY RN!!!!!

[the-lion-guard-88]

⚠️Attention SMG4 Fans! Especially Mr. Puzzles fans⚠️

I just wanted to let you guys know about a specific person on YouTube by the name of “NesrinBulut-zm2gc”

This guy has repeatedly went onto my posts and talked about their hate for the PUZZLEVISION saga. While there’s nothing wrong with that, this guy has repeatedly harassed me and my fans for simply liking Mr. Puzzles as a character. An example of this is them saying us Mr. Puzzles fans deserve to be in jail for liking him as a character

This guy also goes as far as saying Mr. Puzzles is like D1ddy. Comparing Mr. Puzzles to a certified p3d0 is so fricken nasty

I’m almost 100% sure I saw them comment on @blue-doofus’ YouTube video of “Just A Man”, but when I looked back, it was removed

Here’s a big one

So this guy has been repeatedly going to other peoples’ pages saying this whole “Do I think the PUZZLEVISION series is overrated? Yes” paragraph, but the thing is…

HE DID THIS ON A POST OF MINE THAT WAS MADE TO MOURN A FRIEND OF MINE WHO PASSED AWAY ON FRIDAY

He did this under @hplonesomeart’s comment and I didn’t notice it until I was looking at previous comments. Thankfully HP and another person told him about his actions and I made a reply to him because I was genuinely pissed off and am still not in a mentally stable state

I will share more info if anything happens, please stay safe from this guy if he starts to harass you for liking Mr. Puzzles or spams on your page

As a Mr. Puzzles fan, I will say that you don’t deserve to be in jail for liking a character. I’m honestly ashamed that I need to say this because it’s common knowledge that nobody deserves to be in jail for liking a FICTIONAL CHARACTER

So yeah, please be aware of him. Stay hydrated! 💚🖤❤️