#Rick and Morty theories

[glitteringcrab]

Rick C-137 and Evil Morty (part 2)

From Rick C-137's and Evil Morty's interactions up until now, I got the impression that Rick C-137 can sorta see through Evil Morty's cold façade and recognize the hurt child hiding underneath. In Unmortricken, Rick C-137 tended to try to smooth things over a little bit (what with Rick C-137 complimenting him, defusing the situation almost every time Eyepatch Morty got aggressive or challenging, convincing Morty Prime to step down, offering Eyepatch Morty to work together, voicing reasons and excuses for them to keep working together, treating him with respect, listening to his suggestions, returning his portal gun immediately, trusting him in his own home).

And I think Eyepatch Morty kinda responded to all that, because although he was on his guard the whole time, he never seemed scared of C-137 the way he seemed with Rick Prime at the end of the Prime fight.

In fact there are moments when he seems unbothered by Rick C-137 standing right next to him; in one instance EM is even casually standing between Rick C-137 and Morty Prime...! (I would have thought he would prefer to stay as far away from Rick as possible, therefore on Morty Prime's left, but nope)

...and in the very beginning there is even a moment when he walks up to Rick C-137 until he stands close to him... (which I felt was surreal)

And you know what else was surreal?

THIS.

Rick C-137 left Eyepatch Morty alone with Morty Prime, in his own basement.

If there was a bigger act of trust on Rick's part than this, I don't know what it is.

At first glance, maybe it wasn't so big an issue... We know Eyepatch Morty doesn't go out of his way to pick unnecessary fights, and if Rick (like us) has surmised that Eyepatch Morty holds some fondness for Morty Prime, it's not a stretch to think he was unlikely to try anything "evil"...

But at the same time, it is his own basement. You know, the place he lives? Where he holds priceless equipment and weapons that could be stolen? Right below the house his family is, who could be threatened as blackmail?

He could have teleported the trio of them anywhere else, and split ways with Eyepatch Morty before resuming the Prime Hunt, so that Eyepatch Morty would never know which dimension he lived in, never had the chance to study his defense systems.

But no. He teleported Evil Morty in his own dimension, inside his own house, past his own defenses.

And, here's the thing...

...Do you think Rick C-137 expected to return victorious after the Prime Hunt?

Sure, he intended to kill Rick Prime, but...

Do you think he was willing to die trying?

Do you think he expected to survive?

Do you think he intended to return home afterwards?

Or...

...

Assuming Rick C-137 found Rick Prime but didn't make it back (for whatever reason)...

Have we given any thought to what would happen to Morty Prime after Rick C-137 was gone?

Physically, I mean. He would be sad, for sure, but would he be safe?

Rick has plenty of enemies and a colossal network of illegal activities he kept up with, but that's not what I'm worried about. They wouldn't have much reason to target a dead man's house, and someone like Space Beth, Birdperson or Unity would be able keep them at bay anyway.

...But what if another Rick, a truly bad one, made the Parmesian dimension his home?

What would happen to Morty Prime then?

Do you think Rick C-137 had given this matter any thought at all?

...He might have, but it's not like there's a lot he can do (I guess he could throw himself in the Omega Device, but (a) when he started the Hunt he didn't know Prime had re-built it and (b) that's supposing he survived the Hunt in the first place): He can't live forever so it's bound to happen sooner or later anyway, there are infinite Ricks, and there is no one who can actually stand up to a Rick...

...Except one.

...And suddenly Rick C-137 bringing Eyepatch Morty in his house feels almost like an invitation.

Like Rick C-137 wanted someone capable to take over watching over Morty Prime.

[bluescreenexe]

would it be a stretch to say i think that somehow, rick prime is going to trap rick c-137 somewhere. and that i think he's going to return to the smith household posing as rick c-137. and that since rick c-137 replaced prime, prime is going to replace him back. do you think. do you think this is a possibility

do you think he's going to try and fuck everything up for c-137. do you think he's going to ruin everything rick has made for himself. am i going crazy or do you see my point

[summersmithlatinxgyatt]

There's likely a part 2 to my Rick Parasite theory coming. Thank you to anyone who reblogged it, but I am hoping it still explodes. This is something I removed from the theory originally to make into its own post

Season 4, Episode 1 shows other dimensions have become fascist seemingly without an explanation. These are the dimensions that have Operation Phoenix set up. Rick had no back-up clones due to killing them all in 'Big Trouble in Little Sanchez'. The fact he goes into other dimensions for this means that the other Ricks must have known about him, but each of them comes in confused and ready to kill. So what's going on here?

Rick had escaped the clutches of The Citadel and cosmic prison. He would go out of his way to destroy it, leaving it in physical shattered remains. In Season 3, Episode 1, we see that Rick changes bodies with other Ricks in a similar way. However, that's because his mind was still intact - it was the body that was being cut-off forcibly. He dies in an accident in Season 4, causing the chain of events of his holograms and clones. I think this is an attempt from The Citadel to rebuild and catch Rick. What's the proof?

The Ricklantis Mixup shows blatantly (mainly through its cold opening) that not everyone hates The Citadel and wants it gone. The fact there's politicians at all means there are people who genuinely care for The Citadel. That means it can splinter off properly - again, this is evident through the existence of political parties. Other Ricks would create their OWN Citadel. Even if they're small compared to the scope of The Citadel, they're still the smartest man in their own dimension. This would allow them to create a government in their dimension that serves as a mini-Citadel that controls the entire planet

As the Wiki points out, there seems to be no racial hierarchy in the first fascist government we see. I don't know if this applies to any other government we see because they're based on species - we don't know if they coexist or all species are divided

However, the system of fascism in the first one mentions sterilizing China. Rick would obviously be able to pull this off, but it seems that each politician Rick went out of their way to set up their own government in their dimension, as I hinted at. This allows total control and means private Citadel-esque systems control each dimension personally rather than having a watchful eye over each dimension

Fascist Morty might seem like an anomaly, but there's a great explanation for this

He says this Rick was 'too political', meaning he must have been focused on his new role as a dictator. When he mentions missing old adventures, this is something that can explain why they did this in the first place

This is sort of a chicken and egg situation on which came first, so bear with me. But I think when The Citadel was destroyed, Ricks in their dimension were distraught and wanted to bring it back in some way. They must have also heard that Rick C-137 was on the loose, causing there to be a perfect solution. If Rick ever dies, they can cause the rerouted Operation Phoenix vats to bring C-137 to them. With these fascist Citadel-esque governments in place, they keep their ideologies going and kill C-137 right in their own dimension. In a way, they brought the Citadel home and to Rick

The thing about adventures though - they KILL

The idea of a Meeseeks Box still existing is interesting, even Kirkland versions of them. This IS an autocracy, meaning that Rick can literally spawn in Meeseeks to do whatever he wants. It's perfect! That means no soldiers can turn on him, they're temporary servants that can only do one thing and do it right

In the situation of an 'adventure', even if Rick can leave for a while by using a Meeseeks or two (or relying on other figures like the president), it's still dangerous. If he dies, the vat is used as Rick reincarnates. They CANNOT allow that to happen. Considering Operation Phoenix carries a limited number of bodies (and Rick seems to have had the most growing), it's risky because they'd be wasting one on the fascist Rick while waiting for C-137 to come

Wasp Rick doesn't seem to be an outlier, though

Notice how Fascist Morty took control quickly of the situation and seems to follow these political ideaologies as well. He just wants to have a stable mix of a controlled government and adventuring Wasp Rick also mentions that Wasp Morty has been looking at alt-right forums after berating C-137 for using up a vat. Sound familiar?

However, Wasp Rick goes on about how his species is already brutal. So here's the final part of this theory before a recap

The dimensions that Rick's vat can reroute to seem to be on the perpetual state of having a body available to use. Considering the hatred that a Morty might have against Rick (already being shown), the death of The Citadel means that they resent Rick-centered governments AND the Rick who also caused adventures to slow down! That means Wasp Morty was likely looking at anti-Rick forums that explore a DIFFERENT kind of political ideology. I mentioned that there are different parties already, so maybe Morty was looking at a forum that introduces Morties to hating their Rick

This episode LITERALLY has Morty already going against C-137 Rick's wishes so...this theme is still continuing

Wasp Rick is angry because his Operation Phoenix vat system is being restricted to catch C-137. Rick is also aware that Wasp Morty is looking at these forums, so this is clearly an ongoing issue where other dimensions' fascist Ricks try to introduce this ideology. Wasp Rick has his vats being restricted right now as a result through what I'll call a phantom Citadel - the conceptual Citadel still trying to control each Rick and the orders that'll usually be sent out to follow

RECAP: The Citadel is trying to reform through Ricks that are angry and they decide to set up their own fascist Citadels they can run. During this, they realize that C-137 is still out there, but they decide to bide their time. In the event he dies, they'll have Operation Phoenix vats monitored and restricted. If adventuring is banned, it would also give these Ricks excuses to stay in their dimension and rule as well, creating either angry or prepared Ricks that are all branching off a similar fascist ideology - even if the political systems seem to be different across each dimension

I'd suggest leaving a comment if you'd like to see more Rick and Morty theories. These do not do well on my page sadly, and this acts sort of as Rick Parasite Theory 1.5. Part 2 might come out as well so...let me know if you want that. Or I should make this all into a YouTube video...

[the-rick-parasite-theory-archive]

For now - the final piece of this theory is being worked on

I have to do a little bit more editing and might involve things like Mr. Poopybutthole or Bird Person's place in these theories

Currently confused as to if the talking cat and sentient churro fit into this theory too

And worst of all...the maps

I have to make family trees of parasites, characters, a timeline of events, and mapping out this massive cosmology I've made

There is still no given date to this and if production takes longer than the official Part 2 of the Rick Meta-Parasite Theory, then it probably will come out in 2025

I've also considered making a YouTube video on all of this...thoughts? It'll get more traction hopefully

[whovianbuffalo]

... Is Evil Morty a teeny bit taller than Morty here? Is Evil Morty actually ageing now that he's escaped the central finite curve?

THEY ARE SO SPECIAL TO ME

[the1realricksanchez]

theres this scene in the night family episode where rick watches his car blow up, and the way the animators show the car and then pan to him is so clearly mimicking him watching diane die. idk about yall but if i had the most traumatic memory of my life happen in an explosion in my garage, and there was another explosion in that VERY SAME garage, i'd have flashbacks too. idk. idk. idk . idk idk

[izzy-belles-stuff]

i dont want to go back to school i wanna stay home in bed and watch sitcoms while eating sugar cookies and noodles for later

[smartestmammalintheuniverse]

How did Prime decide on Diane being killed using the Omega Device? The bomb that killed C-137 Diane and Beth was aimed at Rick C-137. The bomb only takes out the garage and doesn’t reach the rest of the house or neighboring houses. Rick survived because the car shields him. It would’ve taken time for him to make the device, a long time, based on size, alone. Beth Prime talks about her mother like she hated her. Prime mocks other Rick’s for even loving her. It does show his obsession when he says, “our wife.” Rick C-137 talks about having a bad marriage whilst pretending to be Prime.

So why kill Diane in every universe? As his marriage failed, he saw how much Rick loved his wife and how all of these other Rick’s refused him because of their families. His hatred for Diane mixed with his narcissism(which is why he didn’t kill Beth) and insecurities from Ricks denying him sent him into a spiral where he created the Omega Device. A device that could kill his wife over and over again and also punish every Rick who denied him…

[mochabonesblog]

FUCK

is this anything

[dirty-bear-rick-sanchez]

Credit to @hazelnut-u-out for the edit!

[glitteringcrab]

Have there been any theories about WTF is going on outside the Curve??

There's like a gazillion portals opening.

Some of them are square, triangles, or hexagonical.

All sorts of colors (including green and yellow).

NO ONE SEEMS TO COME THROUGH MOST OF THEM.

(With very few exceptions, compared to the sheer number of portals opening)

And as for those that do have portal travelers, it seems that, unlike Eyepatch Morty, most of them are not well-prepared.

WHO IS OPENING THE OTHER PORTALS???

This ain't a localized phenomenon, either. We can't say anything along the lines of "oh, in this specific place the fabric of space-time is extra fragile and portals are randomly opening all by themselves" because when Eyepatch Morty portals away from the trippy alien base, the new location also has countless traveler-less portals:

Gosh, there are even portals right outside his home:

Is space-time itself, like... permanently broken outside the Curve? (By what??)

Is someone opening them on purpose? (Who??)

Are they remnants of something else? (Some attempt of, I dunno... interdimensional mass transit that went awry?)

Is this a side-effect of the Curve itself? (i.e. it is stable, at the expense of the rest of the multiverse)

Did Rick Prime have anything to do with it? (not in the sense that he gifted other people portal travel -not again- but more in the sense that he created a weapon that pierced holes to the fabric of space-time itself)

Are they all safe to enter? (or would some of them lead to places like the blender dimension, or would disintegrate you on the spot, like that bootleg portal fluid Rick?)

Are you in constant danger of one appearing RIGHT INTO YOUR PATH at the last possible moment? (and you have no choice but go through it, especially if you're a small golden spaceship speeding away from a monster?)

Are they caused by some sort of... chaos beast? (like the one that pooped Chinese fortune cookies lol: each time a baby laughs an alien poops an angel gets their wings a portal opens)

Are they spewed intentionally by some sort of interdimensional monster? (and lead right into its stomach)

Are the countless portals a self-defense system, designed and employed by nations that Farts tried to cleanse? (since Farts are gaseous and can't go through a portal, maybe having a myriad portals all at once going anywhere is the only way one can escape)

Is it a trap? (laid by whom...? And how does it work? Is it meant to lead people to their deaths? Is this something along the lines "When everyone is Super, no one will be"? Did someone like the Farts freely grant portal technology to everyone, leading to reckless, pointless usage of it and absolute chaos?)

Is this simply the nature of the inter-dimensional space, end of story? (but there weren't any in the inter-dimensional space that Eyepatch Morty first arrived after he escaped the Curve... Is this a recent phenomenon? If so, what changed??)

[bluescreenexe]

it feels like rick and morty are drifting apart and it's making me a little sad? i'm glad rick is spending time with the rest of the family and getting out of the house etc etc but i wonder if their distance isn't building up to some huge plot point. maybe prime does kidnap morty like everyone's been saying and maybe when rick has to go save him he acknowledges the distance that's been put between the two. ykwim?? ya feel me?? maybe he feels bad for not paying enough attention to morty and blames it on himself especially with it being implied that morty does a lot of solo missions for rick now

[summersmithlatinxgyatt]

I've created another blog entirely

This is where I'll also post all 4 parts of the Rick Meta-Parasite Theory for those who are still intrigued by it.

@the-rick-parasite-theory-archive

Part 2 will be posted here too but it will still link to the other blog that'll house it. That project is getting so massive so it's hard to draw the line. As a result, minor deviations of the theory will be broken up into their own posts. I don't wanna spoil them yet BUT I'll say that I removed the section about the psychic cat - only to add it to another mini-theory that makes more sense

Part 1 WHEN REUPLOADED TO THE OTHER BLOG will make it clear which aspects are also outdated

There's also a chance this gets a YouTube video or even channel. Stay tuned and thanks for the support from Part 1. Part 2 is 90% done

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Some corrections and clarifications I missed in the recent theories that I skimmed over:

It just dawned on me that the mini-connections for The Animal Theory failed to mention Beth being a horse doctor, showing that the love for animals still carries on. However, I also forgot to mention the horse people alien race or whatever they were from Season 5. I CHOOSE to forget that, but it's still valid bits of evidence

For Part 2, I went on about the absolute size of the fear hole. The reason that Morty was able to escape the hole and still seemingly understand or see out of it to understand that Rick never even went in is because this current layer is an anchor for him. I've used the term anchor and canonize hand-in-hand because their current layer is their important canon layer. Again, with little information and grasp on what's out there like the chaotic multiverse that The Story Train was pushing through, it's non-canon stuff you can't hold onto (which I proved in Part 1). As a result, everything seems to be in this fear hole but not aware of it and its layer. It's like the semantic dissection of "You are in space" - you are at all times, it's just you are on the planet Earth that keeps you from floating around aimlessly. You're in the fear hole, it's just you're in a given layer at all times you've become familiar with and a part of

Obviously, fascism seems to be the end goal of these animals nearly each time. I AGAIN somehow left out Snuffles - a dog in the first episode who gains intelligence and decides to rule over humans. Another obvious detail is the fascism in the snake planet. Now here's the part I just need to clarify:

Is Rick just also inherently fascist?

No

I think animals take this ideology on because it then helps them become their apex form - Rick. It's just a grueling way to reach this, their means to an end that the broken-up Citadel of Ricks just so happens to bank on

[skimpilydressedwithanaxe]

Bad boys, bad boys what you gonna do when they come for you

[whewchilli-theghetto]

diverting from my usual byl*r and loust*t and j*kook ramblings (censored cuz ion want this showing up when you type in those names) i wanted to let out this rick and morty rant.

it's about rick and morty's relationship specifically and its complicatedness.

i was watching "fear no mort" aka the hole episode and how morty said his fear was that rick wouldn't even jump into the hole to save him. i saw someone mention (either on tumblr or reddit) that morty had to have subconsciously known that rick WOULD save him. like obviously i 100% get why morty would consciously think that with rick not only telling him how replaceable he is but also SHOWING him how easy it is to replace him. but, correct me if i'm wrong, rick has replaced summer, beth and jerry (left them on the cronenberg world), made a clone beth, mixed up jerry in the jerryboree and could not care less (lmao need more of those jerricky episodes really)...but he has never replaced morty c-137 (OUR morty), aka his "original" morty. again, correct me if i'm wrong!

i say "original" because rick c-137 never had a morty. because rick prime, aka morty c-137's original rick, killed diane AND beth! so there's no morty or summer or jerry (sumn i just thought about today like that makes sense sjkld). so he latches onto the morty of his sworn enemy. and afaik he has never replaced him because he actually does love him and care for him! so i agree with that tumblr or reddit user that said that morty knew subconsciously that rick would jump in after him. and when you look at the episode...he literally could reach in and pull morty out. so why not just watch and see what happens and if anything happens he would have pulled him out. very easily. and rick has proved many times how protective he is of morty. even way back in season 1 he said "but they made a big mistake, morty, they brought you into it" in the m night sham-aliens ep, in s2 sacrificing himself for morty in "a rickle in time", in s3 "rickmancing the stone" he was literally about to leave summer until morty said not to.

that's why he knew. on the surface, rick acts like a prick and probably would leave him to die. but he has never done it, never even replaced him when he could have so easily. even opting to switching to a new universe WITH morty rather than leaving him behind with the destruction...

sigh the lore just hit me and i needed to let it out somewhere. i didn't reread this so if it sounds nonsensical then that's on jerry.