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YESSSSSS

i wish they were friends and went on adventures

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no more adventures, im done!! >__<

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Now that you're gone.

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I wonder who’s that is!!!

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My hypothesis was that Birdperson(s) only meet Ricks who are out for revenge against Rick Prime, and their journey takes them to a rebel phase, which includes jumping dimensions a lot.

Meaning, he didn't meet Rick C-131. He met another Rick. All Birdpersons meet Ricks from different dimension than their own.

(Yeah, I know, the metaphorical boat is still leaking water. I'm not satisphied with this explanation either)

There's something that doesn't make sense about Rick C-131, our Beth's original Rick. We were told that he abandoned Beth at a young age like most Rick, so he dressed up as Prime and left her. But birdperson (C-131) remembers him as our young Rick at his revenge arc??? This doesn't make any sense.

I think it does make sense if it happens after Solaricks because the C-131 dimension was destroyed by Mr.Frundles, but no it happened before that. Is it a writing mistake?

I hope they make C-131's backstory to clear things up a bit, even though he's just a background character

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I agree. I don't get the "sexist" thing, since this show has really good female characters (Beth and Summer). Heck, even Jessica got her character arc and literally escaped the fate of being the protagonist's love interest.

I also think Diane's absence in the show is the very thing you described: the only way for us viewers to feel the loss (otherwise we can just... replay the episodes she were still alive in)

Edit: I just realized: we are experiencing the effects of thw Omega Device OURSELVES. We know this person exists. We have some snippets of her. She was important, we know that much. There is a loss there. But something is wrong. No one is mentioning her. Was she important? But... we don't know anything about her. Who raised Beth? She must have. When did she die? We don't know. Maybe she wasn't important since no one is thinking about her, after all.

You know you are missing something, but can't tell what, or how much.

i think it's interesting that i see a few people here on tumblr who feel like diane is under explored by the show. i agree that when a female character is used as a simple narrative device for other characters it's usually because the writers are falling into the classic sexist tropes of using women as (a man's) tragedy instead of actual people. but i never saw diane that way? to me, the fact that we know so little about her is more connected to the fact that she is, and has been from the start, a ghost to the whole story. she's not even here, and yet she's been haunting the narrative from the start. all we get are echoes of her, what people remember, what people think of her, and that feels like a narrative choice rather than neglect for the character, at least to me. it's not that she's not a person, but rather that *we* don't get to know her because she's haunting us as much as them. she remains just out of reach, just outside of what we're allowed to know. we can only see the vague shape of who she was, despite the fact that that person is present in every version of rick and beth, and has been affecting everything indirectly despite being literally erased from existence. i feel likes she's meant to be a puzzle. it's like hearing stories about a relative you never got to meet, and creating that vague idea in your head that is never quite right.

compare that to dreamy dead wife in john wick for example (or my extremely niche but most hated example, anne weying in the venom 2018 comic run), who have literally no significance to the plot or the audience aside from "was very nice and very dead and triggered the plot only to be promptly forgotten forever and barely ever mentioned again". we're never meant to wonder about them, to try and piece together who they were. they were sweet, and now they're gone, and that was that.

diane reminds me more of the way agnes montague is written in the magnus archives (sorry, way too niche again ;v;). in a q+a the writer of the magnus archives mentions how the fact that we never actually meet agnes was a deliberate writing choice. she's meant to be a mith, just a ghost that we have to piece together through the clues that other people give us. she's a fundamental part of the story, but we still never get to meet her, and it makes her feel like a proper haunting, both to the characters and to the audience.

all this to say: i do very much enjoy diane as a character and the season 8 finale has ruined my fucking life

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That's a great question, but I suspect this whole thing is metaphorical. They are memories. Snippets of our perception of a person; not the real thing. Supposing some years in the future we get sophisticated enough A.I. and androids and we can feed those with our memories of a gone loved one: it still wouldn't be the real thing. No more than writing someone's autobiography. We can never trully get into someone's thoughts behind the veil, their real emotions, their inner demons, their hidden strengths. We can try in various ways to keep their memories alive, but it will always be a shade of their real self.

I think... I think that was the point of that episode.

Wait if rick was able to make memory rick real, whats stopping him from making Diane real? And cloning her and repopulating the Dianes??

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Wait, was the "greatest fear" that Rick kinda had to face according to the creators in season 8 letting go of the memory of Diane...

...or was it THIS??

Seeing the damage he has done to Morty, the kid whose safety, despite Rick's constant abuse, has been Rick's priority this whole time?

Realizing he has failed Morty

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You're not wrong. This season was Rick and Beth.

Which is not bad, by itself. If Rick is really changing, then he will spend less toxic time being obsessed with grandson.

If Morty is to have a healing arc, Rick may have to first become mature enough to help etc.

But until (if) this happens, the series is in this weird state of limbo. Are they still going on toxic adventures? Is Morty still selling drugs for his grandfather? Is he still missing school? If not, is he doing better in class? Making friends? NONE OF THESE WERE ADDRESSED.

Rick's character arc is great and all, but I care a million times more about Morty's character arc.

Please conclude the series. Please conclude the series. Please conclude the series. Don't let that kid be abused and neglected for eternity.

the streets are saying drop the and Morty they're just calling it Rick 🤣😢

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Awesome, incredible concept.

Impecable execution.

I love this image so much, it is masterfully done.

And I always feel moved every time I look at it (until the mental image of Eyepatch Morty looming behind Rick Prime with a sledgehammer pops up in my head 😂)

One more move.

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Man, imagine being victim Rick.

You agree to an idea that bloats your ego, no longer needing anyone or having any ties to anything. Ultimate freedom and power offered to you by a Rick who FINALLY understands your plight of being surrounded by mediocrity.

You undergo a procedure, giddy with excitement and selfishness.

And then you can no longer move. You are forced to watch yourself taking actions, your hands move to change your clothes, pack a bag with your belongings that ANOTHER deems valuable, your eyes scan your haircut in the mirror, your fingers change it, your mouth open to dismiss your daughter, your legs move to abandon her...

Yes, you wanted this. It was your decision (your new master would tell you this, cackling). But you have been tricked, and now nothing will be your decision any more. You want to undo this. You want to go back. You realize your family was what mattered. You have been duped by a force greater than you, you were never as smart as you thought you were.

But there's nothing you can do anymore.

Spoilers for Rick and Morty S08E10

(in fact, spoilers even if you have watched it)

except for @arolock who figured out this terrifying truth more than a year ago

HERE WE HAVE LIVE FOOTAGE OF A FRESHLY SNATCHED RICK BEING MIND CONTROLLED* BY RICK PRIME INTO ABANDONING HIS FAMILY

*...puppeteered?

Cause we sure as hell know this Beth was not Beth Prime.

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YOU DID CALL ITTTTTTTT :D :D :D :D

Spoilers for Rick and Morty S08E10

(in fact, spoilers even if you have watched it)

except for @arolock who figured out this terrifying truth more than a year ago

HERE WE HAVE LIVE FOOTAGE OF A FRESHLY SNATCHED RICK BEING MIND CONTROLLED* BY RICK PRIME INTO ABANDONING HIS FAMILY

*...puppeteered?

Cause we sure as hell know this Beth was not Beth Prime.

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Spoilers for Rick and Morty S08E10

(in fact, spoilers even if you have watched it)

except for @arolock who figured out this terrifying truth more than a year ago

HERE WE HAVE LIVE FOOTAGE OF A FRESHLY SNATCHED RICK BEING MIND CONTROLLED* BY RICK PRIME INTO ABANDONING HIS FAMILY

*...puppeteered?

Cause we sure as hell know this Beth was not Beth Prime.

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I just read that they don't intend to stop Rick and Morty, like, at all, and I'm pretty bummed out.

I mean, it's cool and fun series, of course, with lots of things to explore, and I do believe they can keep things fresh for a good while, but...

...it want it to end.

I want the Central Finite Curve to be brought down for good.

I want Morty to grow up. Have a 15th birthday. Go on with his life. Focus on school. Get friends his own age.

I want Eyepatch Morty to find real peace and comfort and stay safe, FOREVER. Never again to get pulled up in any mess of any sort.

I want Rick to stop. I want no more selling crystals which are drugs, no more selling guns, no more shooting people to death, no more keeping prisoners in his basement.

I want Rick to apologize. REALLY apologize. For everything he's done.

I want the extent of his involvement in the Morty Market to be revealed and addressed.

And I want Rick to get THE HELL AWAY from Morty, because he has already done a lot of damage, and if his involvment in the Morty Market is even a little bit as I suspect, it's freaking unforgivable unless he keeps his freaking distance from the kid.

And I want the Smith family to go on without him.

I want it all to end, and them to become a normal family, at least as normal as they can be in this setting. I want them to move on.

I want closure.

I want the Rick Experiment to stop.

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Well, now we know what Eyepatch Morty is thinking when he's silently and stoically glaring at someone.

“Come into the wolf’s house and piss in its bed, you’re gonna get bit. That’s just the nature of the wolf! That’s just the nature of the wooolf!” -Matrix Morty

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i remember you

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Hi..💔