#Queen Uberta

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Derek wants everything to be perfect for Odette at the ball

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Now I’m covering the Swan Princess movie that just came out on Netflix for work and oh my word.

It’s a mess

Why did Netflix pick this up

and also, Swan Princess fandom, how many sequels did I miss, because WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE

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Comparison post- Swan princess characters pieces by Fran48

Comparison post of the two versions of my swan princess characters piece . They took several weeks to complete. 

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AGSZC's Favorite and Most Similar Swan Princess characters

Angeal: Speed, the turtle is his favorite, and Speed, the turtle and Puffin are his doppelgangers.

Genesis: claims his favorite is Rothbart to be edgy and cool, but he secretly loves Speed, Jean Bob, Odette, and Derek, and has a love-hate relationship with Queen Uberta (Derek's mother), much like he has with his own mother. The characters he is most like are Puffin and Jean Bob.

Sephiroth: he identifies with Odette, but Queen Uberta (a mother) is his favorite.

Zack: his favorite is Jean Bob, the frog. Zack keeps cackling and comparing him to Genesis every time he's on screen. Zack has big Derek energy (they both have bad cases of foot-in-mouth disease, but good hearts and wholesome puppy energy).

Cloud: won't tell anyone, but he feels like Odette and is besotted with Derek, who looks like Zack, Genesis, and Angeal in different lights. He also high-key thinks Odette's swan form looks like Sephiroth and is pretty besotted with her as well. Someone help him, he is a mess.

[princesssarisa]

I've been thinking about The Swan Princess. I haven't seen the entire series, but the original movie was a childhood favorite of mine.

I've been thinking of some ways the movie could have been better.

First and foremost, the issue of "What else is there?" How to offend women in 5 syllables or less keep the plot point of Prince Derek saying those words when Odette asks him if he loves her for more than just her beauty, yet without making so many audience members permanently hate him for it.

I actually wrote two entries on the Fridge Brilliance page on TV Tropes about this plot point. (1) This is a fairy tale, and in most classic fairy tales, love is just a matter of beauty, so that's what Derek expects. (2) There are hints throughout the song "This Is My Idea" that young Derek and Odette like each other long before they admit it to themselves. Adult Derek thinks at first that he fell instantly in love with Odette when he saw she had grown beautiful, but by the end he realizes he loved her long beforehand, for who she is as a person.

But maybe those things should have been made more explicit.

I personally would have made the movie more explicitly a deconstruction of classic fairy tale romances with their beauty-based Love at First Sight, more in the vein of later movies like Frozen. I would add some dialogue either before or between the verses of "This Is My Idea" showing Queen Uberta (bubbly romantic that she is) reading a classic Love at First Sight fairy tale to young Derek, and telling him that someday, when they're grown up, Odette will be beautiful and a single glance will make him love her. I might also add some dialogue for adult Derek later in the song, where he complains about having to marry Odette and imagines his preferred scenario – riding through the woods one day, suddenly encountering a beautiful dancing maiden, and knowing instantly that she's the one (a la Disney's Sleeping Beauty, or the original Swan Lake). This would show that he believes in classic fairy tale romance. Thus when "What else is there?" eventually happens, the audience's impression won't be "Derek is a shallow jerk who only values women for their looks" but "Derek has been raised with a fairy tale concept of love as something you feel just because the other person is beautiful."

Later, the ball scenes and "Princesses On Parade" would make it clear that Uberta is again trying to force the fairy tale concept of love on her son, hoping for a Cinderella-style Love at First Sight at the ball. But of course it doesn't work, not only because he's faithful to Odette, but because Love at First Sight isn't real.

I would also add some scenes throughout the movie where Odette and Derek each reminisce about their shared childhood. Odette could tell her three animal sidekicks about it, while Derek could recall it with Bromley and Rogers. This would help to avert the problem some critics find with the movie as it is: that Odette and Derek seem like different people as adults than as children and are much blander than their feisty child selves. It would also show us explicitly that they did like each other long before they knew it. We would see flashbacks to their childhood fights and pranks, and their adult selves would laugh wistfully and make remarks like "I wouldn't admit it to myself, but I enjoyed all that" and "We were never really enemies, we were just too stubborn and foolish to admit that we were friends."

Around the same time, I would also have Odette say a word or two about "What else is there?" to her animal friends, to explain why she's fully committed to Derek again despite having broken off their betrothal earlier. (Of course the cynical view would be that she only forgives Derek because she wants him to break her spell, but this movie isn't supposed to be cynical.) She would say something like "I shouldn't have left him. I know in my heart that he truly loves me, he just couldn't put it into words."

Going back to the childhood scenes, I would also find some way during "This Is My Idea" for young Odette to show her kindness. If at the end of the movie, Derek is going to say that he loves Odette for her kindness, then we should see her display it in front of him. I might show her finding and caring for a small animal in need – e.g. a stray kitten, or an injured bird – and young Derek would act nauseated by the sappiness of it all. But later, when Odette wasn't around, we'd see him find another lost or injured animal and care for it just like she did, showing that her kindness has rubbed off on him.

In his ultimate love confession, I would also have Derek say that he loves Odette's "cleverness" as well as her kindness and courage. That would reinforce the point that he fell subconsciously in love with her during their battles of will and wits in their childhood.

I think these tweaks would bring more consistency and depth to the love story and ensure viewers' sympathy for both of the two leads.

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The Red Dragon Prince (The Swan Princess Parody Casting)

A handsome Prince longs for friendship with a Princess from another land, but an exiled Changeling who wants him for herself conjures up a spell to transform him into a fierce red dragon. Forced to embark on a dangerous quest to reverse the magic, the prince is helped along by some new-found animal friends.

Happy Valentine’s Day, everyone! This is my gift to all of you!

Pitaya Dragon Cookie as Human!Odette (Cookie Run)

Dragon!Pitaya Dragon Cookie as Swan!Odette (Cookie Run)

Hollyberry Cookie as Derek (Cookie Run)

Queen Chrysalis as Rothbart (My Little Pony)

Fatalis as King William (Monster Hunter)

Ananas Dragon, Lotus Dragon, Lychee Dragon, Longan Dragon, and Snapdragon as Themselves/Odette’s Siblings (Cookie Run)

Kaoruko Hanasaki/Cure Flower as Queen Uberta (Heartcatch PreCure)

Tsubasa Yuunagi/Cure Wing as Bromley (Hirogaru Sky PreCure)

Cozy Glow as Rothbart’s Helper (My Little Pony)

ToadMan as Jean-Bob (Mega Man)

Kooper as Speed (Paper Mario)

Storm Eagle as Puffin (Mega Man X)

Here’s your hint for the next casting (It’s a dinosaur movie):

🦖🌃🎪

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The moment we’ve all been waiting for…*Announcing the release date of the 11th film in The Swan Princess series!COMING MAY 23RD, 2023The Swan Princess: A FairyTale Is BornWatch the trailer here!

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Fic: “Filled With Clarity”

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Fandom: The Swan Princess (1994)

Rating: G

Summary: While they're still young, Derek realizes Odette is not what she seems.

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For years, Derek has hated the sight of her.

Odette could hit with her fists and leap from trees and play with the wooden training swords, just as well as Derek—but, Odette also fought dirty. 

She cried. 

She tattled to Queen Uberta.

What a pain…

Bromley rolls his eyes, tired of watching Derek glare from the corridor's entrance while Odette speaks shyly with a guard. Aren't they supposed to be promised to each other? Didn't their parents want to marry them together?

Oh, no…

Derek scolds himself by thwacking his hands against his cheeks, but unable to look away.

Odette's teeth expose when she prettily grins. 

Her fingers unconsciously touch the golden heart-shaped locket on her neck.

When one of the castle-guards points it out, Odette unfastens her necklace, cheerfully showing off. Unknown to her, Derek hardens his jaw, infuriated by the blushing. He acts impulsively—Oh, and Mother would be distraught—

Derek hurries into a run, going by, snatching the locket out of Odette's fingers. 

And keeps running.

"Ugh—!" Odette shouts, her blush darkening. "Derek!"

She follows him laughing proud-stomached and running towards the inner courtyard. Servants duck out of the way, narrowly avoiding collision.

Odette chases him all throughout the grounds.

Her defiant, beautiful expression…

Derek becomes mesmerized by it, as always, but he feigns ignorance, smiling mischievously and dangling the locket right above Odette's head. Still out of her reach. Whatever clever words longing to manifest from Derek's lips—they stray. As soon as Odette's brilliantly violet eyes meet his.

They know.

They know it like a heartbeat… Odette, in soft, silken purple, reaching out eagerly… and Derek, wide-eyed, holding out what is hers…

A first memory of each other.

Derek's hand loosens.

"Ah!" Odette winces, the golden and swan-carved locket thumping onto her. She rubs her eye. "That hurt, Derek!"

His heart gives a sudden, panicked clench. It isn't imagining Queen Uberta's wrath—no, Derek hastens to Odette's side, clasping her arm. 

"I'm sorry—I'm so sorry, princess—" he mumbles, urging her to look at him. His other hand gently tilts Odette's face. "—oh—oh, Odette, I didn't—"

She rubs her eye again, smiling.

It's beautiful.

And… Derek can't hate it.

"Has it happened? Has the incomparable Prince Derek finally fallen in love?"

Derek grumpily bats away the end of Odette's long, yellow side-braid she uses to tickle under Derek's nostrils. "You're a fool if you believe so," he says resentfully, letting her go.

"No more than you are," Odette replies, throwing her hair over her shoulder.

Irritation burns through him.

"You are," he complains.

"You are."

"No, you are."

"No, you."

"No."

"No."

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(The Swan Princess, 1994)

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Swan princess wip- Clavius by Fran48

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[airasora]

Ok ok ok I came across one of your older posts about Odette, where you mentioned that she had tomboyish traits and hobbies considered traditionally masculine and then she's a prim and proper lady. And that she must have been educated that way. And i fully agree but it also awakened a rant I've been thinking about for YEARS and given what you wrote i thought you may agree.

Because Derek being a terrible boyfriend has been discussed to death, correct. But can we please talk about their PARENTS? Both of them!

These two arranged a marriage when one was a toddler and the other a literal newborn. Not only without input from their children, but as the years pass, very obviously against what they want. They talk about their own children like a business transaction MULTIPLE times ('parenting and politics' referring to the wedding as a 'merger' and so on. In the Spanish version, which is the one I watched as a child, Uberta goes as far as calling it 'a wedding and a transaction'). They keep writing to each other about forcing their children to get married. Everyone and their dog could see Odette and Derek didn't want it, see chorus going 'the only point in which they didn't disagree was that the very thought of summertime was dreaded', but William and Uberta don't care. It's pretty obvious to me that William did indeed 'educate' those traits and hobbies out of Odette, and then jumps on the bandwagon of asshole toxic masculinity even further by scolding his daughter about the whole 'you're beautiful' incident with a truly callous 'what else did you want Derek to say to you?'

Uberta is passive-agressive and manipulative to a fault, and at times a downright liar, like with the whole beauty pageant and trying to trap Derek with another bride. When her son publicly offends Odette and she leaves, the only thing she bemoans is 'so many years of planning, wasted!' so she evidently also doesn't give a shit about Odette as a human being. She doesn't mourn William, who was supposedly her friend, and is annoyed and or dismissive about the ONE thing Derek is doing right, which is looking for Odette until he finds her or her body, and trying to figure out who or what killed William and his men, in so many instances i can't even quote them all. ('yes, yes, the fat animal or whatever') and insisting Derek will stop his own mourning and search (again, the ONE thing he does right) as soon as a sufficiently beautiful potential bride is put in front of him.

No bloody wonder Derek turned out like he did with role models like that! I'm surprised Odette didn't!

(also can we talk about the impressively alarming implications of Odette claiming 'I've got bruises with their fingerprints' while her father is bodily dragging her toward the carriage?!)

I absolutely 100% agree with you!

So, as a kid and a teen, I kinda just judged everyone in this movie; Odette and Derek for only falling in love when their hormones deemed each other a fine piece of ass, and William and Uberta for forcing this marriage on their children who fought against it their entire lives and then had the AUDACITY to get mad when it "didn't work out" in their favor.

Speaking of, why the hell didn't THEY get married??? Odette's mother and Derek's father are NEVER even mentioned, why didn't William and Uberta just get married? They'd get what they wanted, but I GUESS you could argue that their fellow reign wouldn't last long and they wouldn't be able to make an heir, but even then they would still have Derek and Odette and, given the time, Derek would probably become king and marry some woman and make her queen and Odette would be... I don't know, a princess?

Either way, William and Uberta could have gotten married and they would have gotten what they wanted anyway, but movie's gotta movie I guess.

I do think both Uberta and William love their children, they are just... way too far into their own goals and dreams and are forcing those on their children. I think Uberta is a little better, because even she was horrified when Derek couldn't think of anything to say about Odette except she was beautiful. You could argue she was horrified that he was ruining the potential marriage, but I'd like to think she's at the very least aware that the outcome was HER son's fault, and not Odette's.

William does try to understand Odette when they're on the carriage on their way home, but - and this is gonna sound sexist - he's a stupid man and doesn't see why being called beautiful isn't enough x'D

Sidenote: One of my favorite lines in any cartoon ever is Rogers saying: "You should write a book; how to offend women in five syllables or less." Also, when Derek loses the queen in chess and he says: "That's twice in one day." The movie is horrendously flawed, but damn does it has some funny lines every now and then xD

And yes, Odette was 100% "designed" to be a proper lady so she could become more likeable to Derek and be what society deemed a good woman. I like that the only hobby we really see her have once she's grown a bit is that she reads, but... that book could be anything. Let's say it's one she's reading for fun though; then that begs the question WHY is reading the hobby she latches onto as a teenager?

A lot of people who loves to read (I'm one of them) say that one of the reasons they love reading books is that they can transport you somewhere else and forget your own worries for a while. I could see that being Odette's reason for reading. Not only is it "calm" and not too tomboyish, but it also gives her an escape from reality. Kinda like Belle, we all know she needed an escape badly as well.

Reading though, also, wasn't considered ladylike. Or rather, why would a woman need to read? Why would she have to be intelligent? That wasn't what a woman's purpose was! So I think you could argue that MAYBE William allowed this one hobby as it was something that could be "hidden". Meaning, let's say she climbed a lot of trees as a kid. We see her running around and fighting a lot, but this would not only make her seem unladylike, it would also be a visual bother. Reading, despite it being "a waste of time", does not make her look less beautiful and composed. It's not a downright bad thing that she's reading, it's just useless for William's plans for his daughter.

Also... YES!

"I got bruises with their finger prints."

Someone WROTE THAT and was like: Yeah, let's put that in a kids movie 🤪

[princesssarisa]

7 question ask: Aurora/Briar Rose

Three facts about them from my personal headcanons.

While I don't see her disliking the name "Aurora" the way some fans do, I can imagine her always keeping "Briar Rose" as a nickname, and Prince Phillip calling her that in private.

When she was growing up in the forest, Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather always taught her to think lovingly of her parents. They never told her their names, of course, and they gave her a simplified version of what happened to them – e.g. "They were unable to take care of you, so they entrusted you to us" – but they made sure that she knew how much her parents loved her and thought well of them, to prepare her for the day when she would learn who they were and go back to them.

Prince Eric in The Little Mermaid and Princess Odette in The Swan Princess are both descended from her and Phillip. Probably from two different children of theirs who each married into the royal families of different lands. The Swan Princess obviously takes place first, later than Sleeping Beauty but still in medieval times. Odette could be their granddaughter or great-granddaughter: it's no wonder that she looks so much like Aurora, with such similar luxuriant blonde hair and violet-blue eyes. (Prince Derek's mother, Queen Uberta, was probably also named after the by-then deceased King Hubert.) Eric is a more distant descendent, since The Little Mermaid takes place in the 19th century, but Aurora and Phillip's portrait can be seen in his castle.

A reason they suck: I'll admit that of all the Disney Princesses, she's probably the least developed as a character. It's alright, though, because what we see of her is lovely, and because she's not really the protagonist – the three good fairies are.

A reason they are great: Brief though her characterization is, she still comes across as a person easy to love: joyful, affectionate, romantic, playful, intelligent, dignified even as a peasant girl, and with a magnificent singing voice.

A reason I relate to them: I also enjoy romantic fantasies.

(what I consider to be) the top tier otp/ot3 for that character:

Prince Phillip is her one true love.

Five things that never happened to the character that I believe should have happened:

In a perfect world, that Maleficent had never cursed her.

In the same perfect world, that she had grown up with her parents.

Even if the above couldn't happen, that Flora and Merryweather hadn't accidentally revealed her to Maleficent's raven with their silly pink-vs.-blue wand fight.

That she had brought Phillip home to meet Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather right away instead of telling him to come later that evening. Even though it's probably "seemlier" for her to tell them about him first instead of bringing him straight home, then she and Phillip would have learned each other's identities right away, and much angst would have been avoided.

That she had been given a few lines to speak in the final scene.

Five people that character never fell in love with and why.

King Hubert. He's an old man and he's her true love's father.

Maleficent. She shows no signs of attraction to women, but even if she did, she wouldn't love the villainess who tries to kill her.

King Stefan. No father/daughter incest!

Flora, Fauna, or Merryweather. Again, she likes men, and besides, they're her foster mothers!

Phillip's horse Samson. No bestiality!

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TUGOFFELEES THE SWAN (cat?) PRINCESS AU!!!

Mistoffelees as Odette,

Tugger as Derek,

Macavity as Rothbart

Munkustrap is definitely Roger's

Grizabella as queen Uberta (but old doot is still here bc I dont have the heart to kill him off)

Either Bustopher or Gus for Mistos dad/ king

Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer share the role of Bromley

And Victoria filling a similar role as them but for misto!

Specific scene must haves include-

'This is my idea' song

'How to offend a woman (man) in five syllabus or less'

'Princess Parade' (Cettie is definitely one of the princesses)

'Far longer than forever' bc of course

Macavity targets Misto in hopes he can have him join him as a fellow magic holder, in taking over both kingdoms (and potentially producing more magical offspring depending how dark you wanna get?)

Now whether or not Misto is turned into a 'white swan' or a 'black cat' is still up for debate bc I like both options,

With the black cat, instead of transforming in a lake, he transforms in the middle of the junkyard!!

But I also love the classic lmao

(Also Tumblebrutus is Jean Bob, Pounce is Speed and Plato as Puffin - also Demeter and Bomba also have a sort of Bridget role considering their connection to Mac)

If anyone else has any ideas for the au or wants to do some art I would love to see it!!!