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deadbeatdadjokes · 2 years ago

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Ralsei? Just curious 👀

people will go on and on about how off putting and strange he is forgetting that this is a severely isolated and socially stunted teenager living under a crushing religious doctrine that emphasizes his lack of worth as a person like of course he’s Fucked Up. it’s how he’s learning to be a person. it’s howhe’s spent so long believing that his only purpose is to be Useful and Agreeable to the lightners. it’s how he’s molded a doormat personality around the fear of not being Useful and Agreeable. it’s how he’s starting to realize he doesn’t need to. it’s how he’s not afraid to be sassy to the lightners anymore. it’s how he’s playful and snarky when he lets himself be authentic. it’s how his relationship with susie starts out as overbearing and stiff with him trying to force upon her an archetypal personality because thats what ralsei has done to himself in order to Fit the prophecy, but once ralsei begins to let go of his idealized understanding of Destiny he realizes that he genuinely likes susie as a person, not just as a delta warrior. it’s how he’s just a kid with bad coping skills and maybe some information that he is withholding but he is trying so hard.

#Yes 2 All #my thoughts exactly bestie #ralsei’s relationship with his own purpose and how the legend at first seems to restrain him from acting as anything #but the friendly helpful guide character when he’s probably ready to slash Lancer’s bike tires by the middle of Ch1 #it’s really cool to see him get more comfortable with people #that isn’t to say that ralsei isn’t a naturally nice guy he’s just rlly awkward and a people pleaser so it’s good to see him finally realize #that he doesn’t have to be ‘pleasant’ or ‘passive’ to have people like him for who he is and value his own input #Susie grabbing him in ch2 like ‘bitch ur with me die mad about it we are GOING to spend time together’#top ten anime betrayals if ur Kris #but so wholesome #(it’s fine they went on the acid tunnel ride together later anyways) spending quality time with Peachboy #deltarune #ralsei deltarune #LANCER SAYS GOODBYE TO HIM TOO EVEN THOUGH HE ISNT LEAVING #so he wouldn’t feel left out 😭#boy you got LANCER saying ‘yo get some friends homie’

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firehananas · 3 years ago

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Just random thoughts/theories on Deltarune (spoilers)

Kris x Ralsei x the player OT3 /j

We all know Ralsei seems to know he is in a video game (mentioning the script, suggesting “Kris” to save or provoking cinematic to talk to Kris without the player around, among other things). We also know he is fond of Kris, which they don’t reciprocate. This lead to awkward situation where they can flirt with Ralsei while they don’t want to. And Ralsei responds positively (being flustered and blushing) nevertheless the flat/confused tone Kris might used when they disagreed with the choice the player made. To prove they don’t have a high affinity with Ralsei, check the healing teas or even the carnival’s choice.

So… what if the crush/attraction/whatever is going on the head of fluffy boi goat isn’t addressed for Kris BUT FOR THE PLAYER THEMSELF. Heck, he didn’t seem at all bothered to the idea his own town is named after the player rather than him, the prince, the fun gang or even Lancer (another friendly local nobility). And no one, excepted the possible “two entities” (depending your point of view), in the intro might know our name. It’s never referenced again, excepted when saving. That’s very weird.

But I also have to admit we don’t know why would Ralsei be infatuated with the player. Is it for similar reasons that Monika in DDLC? Freedom is a big theme in Deltarune after all... But even myself don't buy it. There must be something else. Nonetheless he eagerly wants to be liked by the player (and Kris by proxy).

Else: Ralsei is an old self insert of Kris

Then it would explain the awkwardness when they are together, the strange alikeness between him and Asriel to the point of sharing an anagram name, and the reddish horns (remember the plastic horns Toriel bought for Kris).

Here, Ralsei wants Kris’s love but more in a worshiper/divinity way? Since he would had been created for Kris’s happiness... and Darkner had been explicitly existing thanks to the Lightners wishes.

It doesn’t necessarily contraindicated or jossed the first theory (he could be pursuing both the player and Kris) but it seems unlikely to be both.

The Legend: The player is the Angel to banish and Lancer is the prince

Similar to OFF or Oneshot, the player is an entity coming from another world, guiding their “chosen one” with a compelling “voice” for the better... or the worst. The player is the being the more fitting to be the “Angel” (for now) as they also represents a threat to the world(s), or at the very least, Kris.

I’m surprise everyone seems to think the Angel is Noelle: she is an angel, but definitely not an Elderich entity... more like a martyr at worst. Poor sweetie :c

I also really like the idea the real prince of Darkness isn’t Ralsei but Lancer. However, I admit I thought of it just because it could be a nice subversion. I have no actual proof to pursue this theory, save from “Ralsei is suspicious and Lancer a nice peachboy who got a bit too much spotlight to be insignificant.” But it’s nothing concreted. Who knows what Toby has in mind?

Either way, when the ‘Angel’ will be banish, it’ll be the end of the Dark World — and obviously the game itself.

Kris is a well taught teen (or awkward with tities)

On a lighter note, the reason why Kris seem so delight to respond “perish” to Queen might not be because they’re suicidal but just because they didn’t want to answer “bosom”. Heck, if Toriel ever heard about this, they’ll be banish to their bedroom until the end of time. (Thought with the other answer, she mights force them to therapy. Wouldn’t be necessarily a bad thing tho /hj)

Or they’re just being embarrassed by saying it aloud and then it would be pretty funny lmao. They’re okay eating random moss, licking pages and even flirting with anything - but saying “boob”? How dare you, player! Curse you!!

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Another funny thing I noticed... When a cinematic is done, most of the time, Kris’ll turn toward the screen and because of their neutral expression, it gives me a “wtf was this bro” look. I found it hilarious.

Miscellaneous - just ideas I hope will happen/be confirmed:

The ending of the weird route will lead to a final fight with Susie (with or without Ralsei) and it’ll be heartbreaking as Susie will acknowledge there is something possessing her friend.

Regular road will instead lead to a fight with the original vessel we have created back chapter 1. And it’ll be messed up in a hilarious way.

The whole fun gang will learn the truth about the video game situation they’re in.

Close to the end, Kris will gain enough freedom to talk directly to the player and give them a “why you suck” speech. It would be awesome if they get an actual face, like Susie and Ralsei in their dialogue, while doing so. They’re also probably insecure at the idea their new made friends preferred the controlled Kris over the real Kris.

If not craft for weapons, the clear crystals will give an extended ending/epilogue of the normal/pacifist route (similar to OFF, but less random and goofy).

I just despised the idea Kris being evil, don’t @ me if you are comparing them to Chara (”they got red eyes and are acting weird with a knife”) only to justify the bad things the player did. They are troubled and misguided, and I hope Toriel keeps in check their, uh, “knife hobby”. But they’re certainly not a creepy killer. Just a creepy, well meaning teen.

Regarding the red eyes thing, maybe they are red because “eyes are windows to the soul”...?

Ralsei’s talk with Kris out of focus will be revealed, and it was something related to making fountains/the prophecy’s steps including the part of the player.

#kris deltarune #deltarune #deltarune spoilers #ralsei deltarune #Angel deltarune #deltarune theory #deltarune susie #lancer deltarune #deltarune chapter 2 #i liked the first chapter but this sell me in #it's just...so intriguing #Between Queen Spamton Noelle and even this annoying falco #we got such cool characters #and the whole dynamic between the player and Kirs - that's my jam #I can't wait the next chapters #take my money toby!!#and also susie is best girl #hana talks

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