#Pale KarKan

[relaxxattack]

I saw an older post of yours, how is KarKan incest?

the dolorosa (kanaya’s ancestor and genetic clone), is the signless’s (karkat’s ancestor and genetic clone’s) mother.

kankri says here also that he would find it weird for porrim to date karkat because they are ancestor-descendant and reboot clone versions of each other. if versions of these two dating across universes is still considered gross then i don’t think it would be okay for kanaya and karkat to date.

people are just used to excusing it because ‘well it’s not “true” incest and moirallegiance isn’t “true” romance so we might as well have the adopted family members date!’

sure kankri is known to be sensitive, so i could just be being overly sensitive… but to really get down to it even if it wasn’t incest i don’t think kanaya ever needs to date a man

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What Your Favorite Karkat Ship Says About You

i’m going to be way meaner in this one bc im really picky with who i ship karkat with and i also don’t hc him as a tiny femboy twink, so i’ll say it again, if you don’t want your ship criticized, even in a joking way, just skip this

First off, I’m going to be a little harder on ships that are F/M because i think Karkat is gay, like as in only likes men. If you come in my replies saying he “canonically” had crushes on girls, i “canonically” had sex with your mom

and also comphet is a very real part of the gay experience

AraKat: you like shipping both of them with Sollux and want them to be a big happy polycule

TavKat: I genuinely don’t know what to think of this, i think you like crackshipping and we have very different ideas of who these characters are, or maybe you had a really fun rp one time

Solkat: If humans aren’t involved, this is The Go-To karkat ship, you like ships that make sense, ships that have a lot of material to work with and you also really like best friends to lovers

KatNep: You looove unreciprocated love/angst and im willing to bet that youre either straight or think one or both of them are (wrong) 

KarKan: you most likely ship them pale, and you love that the bossy pants of the group is getting bossed around, and/or someone needs to give karkat a shoulder massage and you want it to be her

KarRezi: You have been in the fandom since the very beginning, this ship is your life, you love it so much, or you love mean girl beating up her boyfriend tropes

VrisKat: You are hella heterosexual or a crackshipper, or a lesbophobe or delusional

EquiKat: Karkat is a tiny femboy twink to you and you want him to be with a big strong man/you like small dom/big sub tropes

GamKat:  You’re a veteran, there’s no telling if you ship it red, pale, or both, but you will defend this til the day you die or you love making edgy angsty art where Gamzee is abusive for some reason

EriKat: You love Eridan and you want him to have a friend/gentle boyfriend who can hold him

FefKat:  you like princess/pauper tropes, and also grumpy boy + sunshine girl pairings, but for some reason, fefsol wasn’t enough, maybe you ship Sollux with someone else, or maybe you ship all three!

JohnKat: You’ve been in this fandom forEVER, this was you first ship, and you will never let it go and honestly i have to respect it. You like classics and you like love-at-first-sight tropes

RoseKat: You are hella hetero, or you ship these two with Kanaya

DaveKat:  you like it because it’s canon and because you like yaoi

JadeKat: Heterosexual ass, you think these two are hetero, youre hetero, and/or you like tropes where the boy has to wear the girl down over time by being mean to her. Or, to be more charitable you like sunshine girl + Grumpy boy tropes or you like girlbosses

[mustachioedoctopus]

What's your favorite Homestuck ship?

what a question in 2024. anyways, redrom it's grimdorks or jadekan. blackrom, jegbert/terezi, and pale it's karkan forever.

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Complete tag list

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🏠 #John Egbert #June Egbert

>#Pepsicola #Johndave

>#Prospitcest #Johnjade

>#Roxygen

>#Egbertcest >#Spider8reath

🏠 #Rose Lalonde

>#Dersecest #Daverose

>#Lalondecest #Roseroxy

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>#Pepsicola #Johndave

>#Dersecest #Daverose >#Spacetime #Davejade

🏠 #Jade Harley

>#Prospitcest #Johnjade >#Spacetime #Davejade >#Guncest

>>#Beta kids #Beta OT4

🏠 #Jane Crocker

>#Dirkjane

🏠 #Roxy Lalonde

>#Roxygen

>#Lalondecest #Roseroxy

>#Roxyhal >#Callieroxy >#Eriroxy

>#Kankroxy

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>#Dirkjane

>#Roxyhal

🏠 #Jake English

>#Guncest

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>>#Alpha kids #Alpha OT4

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>#Nepkat >#Karkan

>#Karezi

>#Vantascest

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>#Gamtav

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>#Arasol

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🏠 #Terezi Pyrope

>#Karezi >#Neprezi >#Vrisrezi >#Gamrezi

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🏠 #Equius Zahhak >#Araquius

🏠 #Gamzee Makara

>#Gamtav >#Gamnep >#Gamrezi >#Erigam

🏠 #Eridan Ampora >#Eriroxy >#Erigam

🏠 #Feferi Peixes >#Vrisfef

>>#Beta Trolls

🏠 #Kankri Vantas

>#Kankroxy

>#Vantascest

🏠 #Meulin Leijon

🏠 #Porrim Maryam >#Aranrim

🏠 #Aranea Serket >#Aranrim

>>#Alpha trolls

🏠 #the signless

>#Discipless

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🏠 #the disciple

>#Discipless

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>>#Ancestors

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>#Egbertcest

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🍖🌈 #Proship-chan

🍖🌈 #Anti-chan

POKéMON: 🔴 #Entourageshipping I literally do not rebog/post anything else about Pokémon

EDDSWORLD: 💚 #Polyworld

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Thoughts on red/pale Kanaya x Karkat? I feel like people get so pissed at this ship for no reason

i dont like pale karkan purely because i hate putting kanaya into moirallegiances we gotta stop moirailzoning that girl. but i do really like red karkan <33 its comforting to me :)

[nightlight-stardust-and-rain]

I fucking NEED to write a Homestuck reincarnation AU with the ancestors. So I'll do it.

Tbh it'll be mostly our favorites hemoanarchist (gods do I love this word) ; The Signless, the Dolorosa, the Psiioniic and the Disciple. Because I love them, that's why. (let's say the Psiioniic died with the others bc if he's not dead he can't be reborn. He was still the helsman but for a shorter time)

So at first I was thinking "they could be reincarnated as Karkat, Sollux, Nepeta and Kanaya" but then I realized that there would be no Karkat, Nepeta, etc... And I love them. So nope nope nope. So I decided that they would be reborn six or seven sweeps before the beta trolls, with the same sign, same blood color and pre-scratch names. They're raised by the same lusus as their descendants. Now there's three ways to do it. 1) everyone remembers. 2) nobody remembers but they have feelings and dreams. 3) only one of them remember. The 3 would be interesting and sad ! Lots of angst. But as much as I love angst, I couldn't write it to save my life. I'm just overwhelmed by the "I want them to be happy". The 2 would be very interesting to write ! Slow burn and pining and also angst bc "why the fuck am I dreaming about my wrists burning ???". Also "I feel I loved you for so long but we literally just met ???". Nice. But sadly, I'll write the 1 ! Because I want to.

So. They're hatched like seven sweeps before their descendants. At first, they live their life quietly. Since Alternia is... Well, a whole planet, they never met when they were young (that would be too easy. They'll meet way later). They think they are alone :( cue angst. But their life isn't so bad. Kinda. Signless (and holy shit he has a lusus ! With his blood color ! He misses his mother but he's happy to have a lusus : he never had one before so) learns to shout loudly with Crabdad (lol) and doesn't go out much (bc you know mutant) but when he does everyone he mets is baffled bc he's super nice ?? He's like those people who smile at you on the streets and even if you know you'll never see him again you fell a little pale something. Half of his neighborhood got a little pale crush on him (he's totally oblivious because guess what ! He's still in love with Psii and Disciple). He studies psychology and other alien civilisations online bc he thinks it's interesting. That's all. He gives advices to people (he got a blog. He's pretty famous for his advice ! Both because he's wise and because his advices is always pacifist). He thinks he's in a other universe (again !) and then he discovers the story of the Signless (by sheer luck, since the story has been erased everywhere by the Condesce) and he's just baffled because wow, he's thousands of sweeps in the future ! Wow ! And also because "does that means that the Condesce is the same fucking Condesce that killed me/us ? WHEN WILL SHE DIE". The Psiioniic lives with his bipolar lusus (nothing new, he' s bipolar himself) and is the best hacker of all Alternia (come ON, of course he is !). Every goldblood knows him, there's a rumor (that nobody takes seriously) that he's the reincarnation of the Psiioniic ! (every time Psii hears this rumors he laughs so hard he cries. It's just so... So funny) he uses his skills for hacking more or less everything, subtly attacking the Condesce (nothing major he knows he can't win), fucking with highbloods (and if he specifically targets those cerulean that act like pirates, those indigo with bows, those violets orphaners, that's nobody's business) and search for the others three, because despite thinking he is alone, there's still a spark of hope (honestly, if we're being realist, he probably would have found them in one or two sweeps since he's really good. But that would be too easy ! So no). The Dolorosa is not in the caverns (and is thankful for that, because after a lifetime outside, she isn't ready to go back to this claustrophobic darkness where she would search and never find a hint of candy red). She does clothes. She's very good ans even does clothes for highbloods. She's both respected and feared. There are rumors about her, rumors of white light and stains of cobalt and violet blood on her lipstick. But those are only rumors, right ? It's strange for her to be this young, but it's also good. The Disciple lives in the forest, with her lusus. She's the best huntress ! Tbh she's a bit of a cryptid. People talking about the beast in the woods. Most olive bloods knows it's her ; she's not the first olive to live in the woods after all. She tries to find the remaining signlessists (is that how it's written ?) to 1) check if what they teach is really what Signless taught, because she knows how cults can be and 2) if they still have the right idea, maybe join them. Maybe not. She's not exactly a signlessist, after all.

Let's say it's a no game AU because I don't want them to die. Also, to be clear, I ship Psii/Signless/Disciple as in Psii/Signless + Disciple/Signless. I don't really ship Psii/Disciple, I see them as... Very good chaotic friends with blackflirting, could be pale or black or red but have this sort of "ewww" reaction about dating each other so no.

When they're seven sweeps, their lusus brings home a wiggler that looks exactly like them (everyone reacts differently : Disciple squeals because Nepeta is so cute ! Psiioniic look at Sollux like... What ? Is ? This ? Another Captor disaster ? In this house ? We're doomed. Dolorosa is surprised but well. She already raised a child, and this time her lusus will help. Signless is shocked. Really. He stays silent for hours and maybe cries a little. After a while they all figure out that they're their descendants - that leads to a "wait but if this is my descendant... Am I biologically my own descendant ??" confusion but eh). They're all very fucking surprised but well.

Nepeta grows up with her big Sister Meulin and their shared lusus. She never really understood that having a big sister was weird until she met Equius. After all, three of her friends also had siblings ! She loves her big sister ; Meulin is clever and nice and pretty and strong and she wants to be like her when she grows up ! But sometimes her big sister looks at the red blood of the beasts they kill with sad eyes, sometimes she draws a symbol Nepeta doesn't knows, she never kills bees, she has a lot of respect for the jades, and she hates being alone. Her sister hates loneliness more than anything. Sometimes, even with sopor her sister wakes up crying about people she doesn't knows. But her sister is the best of all. And when she tells Nepeta stories of love and equality, Nepeta listens, and understands.

Sollux grows up with his annoying big brother Mituna. They have this sibling rivalry (some trolls think it's blackflirting - ewww). His brother is the best hacker of Alternia and Sollux thinks he's very cool (even if he will never admit it). Sometimes his brother shakes his hands and legs for hours mumbling strange things (still moving still moving still alive not trapped not a helsman she's not here I'm not here) and touches the back of his neck, as if he expected something to be here. Some days his brother flinches just seeing pink. He spends days searching people online - Sollux thinks it's kinda stupid ; nobody has blood that red. His brother wears a necklace with a symbol that isn't his. He has three sharpies with three colors - Sollux expected yellow and blue and red but those are bright red and olive and jade. Sometimes he draws on his hands with those sharpies - always the same symbols. Sometimes he wakes up screaming and he talks in his sleep - about ships, about pink, about blue arrows and bright red blood and someone that was everything. Sollux doesn't really understands. His brother is sad half of the time, but it's okay, because Sollux isn't better. But he wouldn't have it any other way (he sure would like to do without the voices and the bipolarity and his brother's depression but we can't have everything)

Kanaya thinks her big sister Porrim is very wise. Maybe a bit too much for her age. Sometimes her sister seems very old. Porrim is beautiful ; the prettiest troll Kanaya has ever seen really, but there's a old sadness deep in her bones that's always here. Her big sister always hated the ocean. Most trolls feared it (because of the seadwellers) but her big sister hated it. She had an odd look on her face every time she saw a spider and never wore anything with blue or violet or pink. Her sister had a sad smile when she helped her to do her red skirt. Her sister is wonderful. Almost more like a mother to Kanaya than their actual mother. When Kanaya was little, she told Porrim so. Porrim laughed very hard and maybe cried a little, and Kanaya doesn't remember her answer (I have only one child, little sister, and it isn't you).

Karkat thinks his big brother Kankri was someone else, before he was his big brother. He sees many things on him that shouldn't be here. He sees his big brother rubbing his wrists sometimes, and flinches every time Karkat grabs them (Karkat does it because of that ; he wants his brother to know that he doesn't have to be afraid). His brother can't cook meat, because the scent of burned meat makes him gag and cry and rub his wrists harder. His brother never does anything to the little beehive on their house - he says he likes bees. His brother loves meowbeasts, like Karkat's olive friend. His brother believes in rainbow drinkers - it's strange. Rainbow drinkers doesn't exist after all ! When he was very little, Karkat thought that Kankri was a coward - he never fought anyone and was always talking about peace and equality and love ! Lame. But then when he was four sweeps he told his brother that he wanted to be a threshecutioner and Kankri suddenly looked very afraid. He explained him things ; about their blood, about the empress, about the culling, about equality. After that, Karkat decided that Kankri was cool in a very strange manner, and that peace and equality andd love wasn't that bad after all. Karkat thinks that his brother is one of those heroes we never talk about, and nobody remembers them because they did heroics things without hurting anyone or killing monsters. He thinks that being like his big brother would be nice. He knows he has anger problems, he tries to deal with it (it helps that he isn't the only one, with Sollux being bipolar and Nepeta being autistic). His brother helps him with his quadrant confusion, when he says he has a pale crush on Kanaya but he also has a crush on Nepeta and Sollux but it's like on all quadrants ! (yup I ship them all) his brothers laughs and tells him about his own history with his lovers and how they were everything to him without really being in a quadrant. It... Slightly help (Karkat still thinks his crushes are unrequited. Fool).

Those four little trolls grows up with their lusus and someone else, and it changes little things. Nepeta begins to write books of romance and adventure and she tells stories to those who wants to hear them. Sollux knows he can count on his friends and his brother ; he doesn't have to bear everything alone. Kanaya knows that if she doesn't wants to go to the caverns, her big sister will help her. She doesn't have to be an adult before really being one. Karkat is a pacifist and thinks his shouting skills are actually very useful to scold people (he isn't wrong). He wants to deal with conflicts without violence or blood spilled (especially not his !!!). He's working on his anger. It's hard, but he isn't alone. He told his closest friends about his blood color : Sollux Nepeta and Kanaya (he wanted to tell Gamzee as well but Gamzee can't keep a secret).

Honestly the reunion between the ancestors would be very emotional of course. Like at this point Karkat and Kanaya would totally be moirails and Sollux, Karkat and Nepeta would be dating (after a long chat about the quadrant thing they decided to say fuck the quadrant system). So they would like meet in person and their big brothers/sisters would go with them but like... Just to make sure they're alright you know (alternia is dangerous after all :/). And HERE'S the emotional reunion I guess. I won't write it, I don't know how to. But you see.

My main idea was a Reincarnation AU, then it became "Karkat, Sollux, Nepeta and Kanaya growing up with their ancestors but not as their ancestors and noticing strange things about their siblings". Hope you like it, because I sure do !

[casually-salad]

When your pale

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Some miscellaneous gift art I drew for @seaofdreams !! Featuring fantroll/self insert shenanigans and pale karkan bc that’s not a bad friendship right there.

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matching icons for u and ur crew!! pls like/rb if youre gonna use them (':

[gendertrickster]

Different Around You

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[honeyfox-moved]

IT’S STILL 6/12 HERE SO IT’S FINE

Happy wriggling day to the best crab boi!

[thedouglastrap]

Holy heck, I actually finished writing another fic? Have some pre-retcon quadrant confusion, as Karkat and Kanaya navigate the minefield that is Karkat Not Understanding His Feelings In The Slightest.

[overtrolled]

Karkat for the ask game?

ooh, okay, let's go.

My NOTP for them: hmm okay, so I am pretty willing to give Karkat a chance with any of the characters that he interacts with in HS. Since Davekat is the big ship, though, it tends to have a lot of content that is so removed from their dynamic via fandom telephone, especially since the comic ended, that i usually kind of avoid the ship. But if you want a ship that is like, one I actively dislike, I don't think I have one. My BROTP for them: this is a tough one because he has a great friend dynamic with like half the cast. I think I like his dynamic with Eridan the best for this. Karkat doesn't take Eridan's horseshit and that feels like something Eridan needs, and Eridan seems to give him a measure of trust which he needs. My OTP for them: idk i like johnkat a lot. i still read some of the old johnkat fics from the update period. i should see if there are any junekat fics, that could be fun. My second choice pairing for them: it's hard to choose. karezi is interesting but their dynamic always seemed like it would have trouble lasting long term. I like meenkat too but it similarly feels like a short lived relationship at best, although not all ships necessarily have to be about a lifetime relationship. but like i said, i will pretty much read karkat/anyone My fluffy pairing for them: pale karkan is a nice fluff pairing, although i also like jadekat. My angsty pairing for them: solkat, with vriskat being a close second My favorite poly ship for them: i think it would be funny if everyone wanted to bang him. My weirdest pairing for them: i don't think it's that weird, but fefkat is a rarepair i enjoy. there are interesting contrasts to their characters, and interesting parallels as well.

Thanks for the ask!

[hstbc]

What are your guy’s favourite ships?

That’s an excellent question! Here are the answers:

mod-red: rosemary, javepeta and davekat

mod-blue: JohnDaveKat and all pairings within it, (fanon)Cronkri and (fanon) Dirkjake

mod-pink: meowrails (duh), nep <3 sol, nep <3< eridan, sol <3 araida, callie <3 roxy, dirk <> ~~therapy~~ roxy (platonic of course), jade <3 rose, jade <3 davepetasprite, and dirk <3 equius

mod-yellow: rosemary, davekat, araroxy, arasol, davesolkat (or any variations of the 3), vrisrezi, jaderose, johndave, dirkjake (ikik...), pale davejade, dirk x therapy and pale karkan

mod-green: My top ship is DirkSol currently but top 5 not including that one is Dirk <3 John, Karkat <3< John, Rosemary, Gamzee <> Karkat, and CottonCandy

mod-teal: jaderoxy and kanrezi

mod-purple: davekat, rosemary and callieroxy

mod-gray: doesn’t really have any

mod-white: Dirk x Horuss, Pale!!!!! Vriska and Equius, Vrisrezi, Arafef, Arafefsol, mitula, Rose Mary, not a ship, but I love any Jane Dirk Friendship content, Nepeta and Equius, Arajake, DaveJohnKat (in any combination), Roxy and Callie, Jane and Roxy (ignoring the epilogues), Jade and Tavros!!!, Jade and Davepeta, and Jade and Davesprite

modlite-lilac: Lilac/not finishing homestuck, lilac/not reading hstbc: anyways ninjagos cool and i like polyninja and samuraishipping <3 (~~seriously tho i like davekat~~)

modlite-lime: Rosemary, Calliroxy and Stelzias can you tell I like women

modlite-coral: davekat (no quadrants) is the fav but i also love me some kanaya <> karkat, vriska <3/<> terezi, callie <3 roxy <3 jane, nepeta <> dave, and finally that good good wv <3 pm :33 (im not much for blackrom ajdjfjfk)

modlite-canary: janerezi, rosemary, meowrails and callieroxyjane