#Omoc (Stargate)

[daincrediblegg]

i just saw a thirst trap of john kramer. as one of the foremost leaders of the old man fucker agenda, what are your thoughts? 🎤

Having recently learned that he is portrayed by Tobin Bell who is also in Stargate SG-1 and plays the jerk leader of the Tollans named Omoc, I can with confidence give my support to this old man fuckery. Also no one has home alone-d harder.

[cotter-pin]

2:34 PM - October 22nd, 2024 (Tuesday)

Spoilers for ep 16th season 1 of the stargate

i'm loving the planets looks (for some reason i thought this was going to be a halloween or christmas ep lol)

bro narim was flirting with sam and called her an angel (smooth)

there was a jumpscare

They got the leaders from the past episodes, I'm loving that

omoc is such a jerk and blunt (with all that good inside that he hides)

I like daniel's actor acting

[jadelotusflower]

Stargate rewatch: 1x16 Enigma

Volcano planet!

Narim is the first, but certainly not the last, to fall in insta-love with Sam.

There’s a weird panning shot out from the water jug in the briefing scene. William Gereghty directed the one - he also did The Broca Divide and will go on to several more over the course of the series. They were already getting bored of shooting the briefing room I guess, but why focus on Sam pouring a glass of water she doesn't drink from?

She does hold the glass for the entire scene though, and I can only imagine Amanda Tapping figured that the director made her pour the glass of water, she needed a character reason for it. It's Sam Carter's comfort glass! She needs to know refreshment is nearby after being on hot ashy volcano planet.

Daniel back with his coffee though I see. No hydration, only diuretics Daniel Jackson.

Omoc, you crotchety bastard, I love you. I know Tobin Bell is Jigsaw in the Saw franchise, but I don’t watch those movies, so he’s just Omoc to me.

Nothing says advanced culture like a silver jumpsuit.

Sam is setting up the UAV - this is the first time this appears in the show, and Daniel brought along his coffee to gleefully elude to Narim's crush.

There’s a pattern with the parade of love interests for Sam, a tendency for them to be written/portrayed as…for lack of a better word…wet?

Garwin Sanford commits to the softboi hearteyes vibe though. He’ll bring a similar energy to Narim’s Earth doppelgänger/Weir’s ex on Atlantis.

Daniel has another (?) cup of coffee watching the UAV footage.

Did they ever sell merch of those SGC mugs? I want one!

And Daniel with yet another cup of coffee in the briefing! At least Hammond’s got one too this time. Jack is making the better hydration choice and drinking water. Well, he has a glass in front of him, but like Sam he does not drink from it.

Sam naming the cat Schrödinger is so cute. Also how I, as a teen, learned the concept of Schrodinger's cat.

“I’ve studied [quantum physics] - among other misconceptions of elementary science.” LOL

This was another Katharyn Powers episode. She had some misses, but she sure had some hits too.

Omoc can sense romance a-brewing, and he is Not Happy about it.

Tuplo! So happy to see this guy again. He thanks Hammond for allowing him to be the first visitor from the Land of Light “to your Earth.” Precious!

lol, everyone has a glass of water except Daniel, with his coffee.

“We know that you are in need, and that you are here among those who have proven themselves our friends.” So damn precious! Honestly the people of the Land of Light didn’t deserve to be subjected to the snooty Tollans anyway.

Hammond is appalled by Omoc's rudeness. Just livid, a nice little character beat.

One of the strongest ongoing themes of the series is the morality around advanced technology and whether it should be shared with us, if we should share it with others, what justifies its use and who decides.

But when does non-intervention become amoral - the Tollan know of the Goa’uld but “don’t interact with them” - thereby allowing others to suffer and be enslaved because of their isolationist policy, but on the other hand where is the line drawn? When does help become artificially advancing a culture that's not ready for it? Arguably the SGC engages in quite a bit of the latter, hence this meme:

The Tollan’s perspective - that technology should never be gifted to a society who cannot obtain that knowledge themselves - is very similar to the Nox, so it’s appropriate that’s who they’ll be collected by at the end of the episode.

The SGC gobbles up as much tech as possible and often misuses it - there’s a parallel here to Jack’s son, who dies because he was toying with a weapon he didn’t understand, that I don’t think is ever really articulated in the show.

And let's face it, if the SGC got it's hands on some cool advanced weapons from the Tollan the US government would totally use that shit to blow up its enemies and probably themselves in the process.

“What your mind doesn’t know, your heart fills in” is a very sweet description of Sam.

Enter Maybourne in his slimeball era, throwing his weight around and drinking coffee not from an SGC mug so we know he's Not Welcome.

Daniel pulling the Civilian card - sure he can’t be court martialed, but he could be fired (or arrested for treason). I guess they’re banking that he’s too valuable to the program, and since he seems to face no repercussions for this, they're right!

But Omoc starts to thaw, trusting him and even trying to explain Tollan science like he would to a child. I do enjoy it when an advanced alien adopts one of our team like they’re a stray puppy.

I really wish we’d seen Omoc again, I love a grump that somehow can't help but be won over by our earnestness.

“We have that custom too.” Okay that’s cute, I kind of like Sam/Narim in this episode.

"Your race has learned nothing...but you have." I love Lya. I want her to tell me she's proud of what I've learned.

[stargatecaps]

[spockvarietyhour]

Tobin Bell, still calling the shots from his bed unaware of how he’ll end up being tied to the Jigsaw franchise

[simply-ellas-stuff]

Orin from Charmed /Jigsaw from the Saw Series / Omoc from Stargate SG-1

Maia from Shadowhunters

Cooper Lee from One Tree Hill / Ensign Samuel Anders from Battlestar Galactica / Alec from Charmed

Melinda Gordon from Ghost Whisperer

Robert Quinn from The Fosters / Navy Lieutenant Jonas Cobbs from NCIS / Ryan Thomas from Life Unexpected / Kyle Brody from Charmed

Satomi Ito from Teen Wolf

Talia Hale from Teen Wolf / Lt. Cmdr. Faith Coleman from NCIS

Penny Peabody from Riverdale / Leslie 'Livewire' Willis from Supergirl

Beth Sullivan from Hawaii Five-0

Francine from The Secret Life of the American Teenager / Jeanette from Big TIme Rush / Jessika from Jonas / AJ from StarStruck / Jordan from Good Luck Charlie, It's Christmas!

Young Derek Hale from Teen Wolf / Tribute Boy - District 3 from The Hunger Games

Young Piper from Charmed

Sarah from The Fosters / Kelly Gibbs from NCIS / Savannah O'Neal/Emma Reynolds from Frienmies / Madison from Ghost Whisperer (that must've been a fun reunion) / Clara Fowler from Penny Dreadful / Mary Jones from Freakish

So I'm watching Criminal Minds [spoilers for the first six seasons, that's as far as I have gotten].

Jasper from Twilight is a mess of a human being and... somehow got locked in his own mind??... still confused about that one.

Mike from Twilight is an over-privileged dick.

Lydia from Teen Wolf needs some serious therapy after the shit she's been through.

Keith from One Tree Hill is a bad guy and I don't like it.

I'm sure I'll notice more, but... For now that's all I'll add more when I find more people I recognize LMFAO

[pass-the-bechdel]

Stargate SG1 s01e16 ‘Enigma’

Does it pass the Bechdel Test?

No.

How many female characters (with names and lines) are there?

Two (20% of cast).

How many male characters (with names and lines) are there?

Eight.

Positive Content Rating:

Three.

General Episode Quality:

Good fun.

MORE INFO (and potential spoilers) UNDER THE CUT:

Passing the Bechdel:

Lya only shows up right at the end, and does not interact with Carter.

Female characters:

Samantha Carter.

Lya.

Male characters:

Daniel Jackson.

Teal’c.

Jack O’Neill.

George Hammond.

Omoc.

Narim.

Tuplo.

Harry Maybourne.

OTHER NOTES:

“What’s this stuff in the air?” I’m sorry, Daniel, this is one of the stupidest exposition-questions I’ve ever heard and I’m sorry you got stuck having to utter it.

Maybourne and co just got Nox’d. Very embarrassing.

I wish they didn’t insist on pushing a romance angle for Carter and Narim, as it’s the most forced and unnecessary part of a mostly very solid episode, adding a triteness where the tone of the piece is predominantly apprehensive. The friendship chemistry between the two characters is good, and the balance of scientific wonder and frustration makes a strong backbone to the narrative to which the foreground interactions of these two characters lends quality dimension. Narim being as reticent to share information as Omoc, only less condescending about it, helps to temper the hostility of the Tollan’s attitude, while his enraptured delight at the sight of regular everyday Earth animals suggests a ray of hope that cultural exchange might still be both possible, and welcomed. Tossing a romantic angle into that smooths down the dimensions rather than adding to them, as it leans the relationship between Carter and Narim in a much more cliche direction. It’s a shame.