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#Not going to bother tagging it as RWDE from now on
There isn't a single RWDE that has two functional brain cells.
You're proof. You constantly post opinion and conjecture as fact and I'm surprised you don't cringe reading your own crap.
Just leave, we don't want you, we don't need you. Just quit talking.
If this is the same Anon as before, then know this is the last time I'm giving you attention and will delete any further messages. You were fun for a laugh or two but this is your third strike. After this, I'm done with you.
I've gotta admit, it's funny how you say I "constantly post opinion and conjecture as fact" when I've only written up 22 posts tagged as "rwde" over the course of 2 and a half years, 4 of which were from this year. Not to mention that the blog you're borderline stalking/harassing is a multifandom blog. If you bothered to look at my posts listed, you'd see just a bunch of GIFsets and fanart for anime and games I like.
Also, as a writer who's been posting her own stories, both original and fanfic, for 5 years now, I'm used to cringing at my work. It's part of the process of improvement in one's skills.
And no, I'm not going to stop talking about this just because you and others are uncomfortable with it. I've been doing the bare minimum in censoring specific words and tagging my posts correctly, meaning the least you can do is block me. If you won't give yourself the courtesy of doing that, then Idk what to tell you
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warsmith-38 · 3 years
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How I would do RWBY pt. 5
Season Five.
Lingering drama amongst teams despite stable exterior.
Everyone’s a little wary of Blake on account of her cutting and running on them a couple seasons ago.
Everyone’s a little wary of Ruby and her insane berserker moment against Cinder.
Everyone’s a little wary of Yang and her being a bit of a dick recently.
Everyone’s a little wary of Weiss being a little emotionally fragile at this whole experience.
JNR is wary in general on the grounds that they didn’t sign up for this level of shit.
Everyone’s a little frazzled in general on account of recent events.
Qrow is giving them the rundown on Salem and Ozpin as far as he’s aware.
Says that they’re ancient demi-gods that have been fighting each other since before history.
He only knows so much because Ozpin is pretty tightlipped about his past and only gives certain individuals certain amounts of information.
Speaking of, Ozpin is there to greet them at Haven.
And teams CFVY and SSSN, leading to a happy reunion.
Haven headmaster is indisposed and can’t be present. (He’s on the phone with Salem)
Ozpin gives the skinny on what they know of Salem’s plan.
The exact plan still eludes them.
What they do know is that she has the remnants of the White Fang that follow Adam with the greater White Fang being uninvolved, a loose cabal of personal agents here and there, and literally countless grimm to bring to bear.
Easy odds, as far as they’re concerned.
They also tell him that Cinder has been beaten.
He doesn’t really care, seeing her as just another dime a dozen assassin.
He happier about Tyrian (Salem’s only truly competent assassin) being dead than anything about Cinder.
Ruby is quick to also say that being dropped down a pit doesn’t necessarily mean Cinder’s dead and if she shows up she gets first dibs.
Speaking of, Cinder is quite alive.
She is quickly found by Emerald and Mercury.
Cinder is wounded, but still powerful enough to kill the both of them should they piss her off.
Brief recovery period.
Discover that Salem isn’t returning her calls.
Salem’s decided that she’s gotten all she can out of Cinder and that she’s not worth further investment.
She can find another urchin, creep, or psycho to mold.
Brief moment of heartbreak is capped off with new plan to regain Salem’s favor.
Emerald and Mercury try to offer other options but eventually agree to come along because they have fuck all for other opportunities.
Get to Mistral and seek help of local crime boss for passage to Atlas to go about evil business there.
Crime boss restrains Emerald and Mercury.
Reveals that Neo already purchased their services.
Neo is angry at Cinder. Blames her for Roman’s death.
Cinder and Neo fight, Cinder wins, and shifts the blame of Roman to Ruby.
Neo acquiesces and teams up with Cinder and co. for revenge on Ruby. (Team CEMN for the win)
First act of new team is to kill local crime boss for trying to dupe 3/4 of them and steal their shit.
Neo just shrugs. No honor among thieves. They overcharged her anyway.
Set off for Atlas to cause problems on purpose to regain Salem’s attention.
RWBY + JNR take a well-earned moment of respite.
Catch up with CFVY and SSSN, fill them in on what’s been happening.
Ruby tries to bridge gaps by returning to being the designated weapon repairwoman.
Grills everyone for not taking better care of their shit.
Because how hard is it to do basic maintenance people?
Given downtime is able to upgrade Jaune’s sword + shield.
Sword has cooler design and shield can produce bubble shield effect now.
Ozpin takes RWBY and JNR aside to ask them to join his inner council.
He would have done it earlier but he was waiting to see if Ruby’s second semblance would ever awaken.
When they agree he elaborates further on Qrow’s earlier explanation.
He’s a great big windbag so he just info dumps everything (that they need to know) on them at once.
Explains that he is opposing demi-god to Salem. A deity of order and building as opposed to destruction and chaos.
Explains that he and Salem were created from on the whims of an ancient god of creation to guide the free peoples of the world and keep them all safe and sound.
Creator god fucked off after making the two of them on the grounds that it is explicitly a creator god not god of anything else.
It made the world. Caring for it is somebody else’s problem.
He and Salem disagreed as to how best to help people.
Salem thought that growth through conflict was the way to go and Ozpin thought that being the guiding hand from behind the scenes would work the best.
It eventually devolved into just trying to kill the other for getting in the way of each other’s plans.
Salem’s goal is to remove Ozpin from the equation and let people build and thrive in the natural way with a disaster, war, or genocide or two every now and then to keep them on their toes.
She’s basically the big evil boogeyman of the world.
Ozpin’s goal is to remove Salem on the grounds that he feels that the best thing he can do to keep order is not to allow said disasters, wars, or genocides and keep people alive for his later plans.
Either can only be killed by direct action of the other.
They keep themselves separate and ideally safe from each other.
Salem has been trying to find workaround for this for ages.
Salem created the grimm as a means of keeping humanity on its toes, fed by negative emotion in an attempt of dissuading such feelings.
They failed both at that and as a means to permanently kill Ozpin, but she now had an army for the rest of her plans.
Ozpin responded by creating and seeding the world with dust, giving the people a means to fight against the darkness surrounding them.
He never puts himself in the direct spotlight of history. Always the vizier, never the king.
Dust also had the side effect of eventually irradiating humanity and giving them aura and, furthermore, semblances.
These newly powered people, when dead and buried, eventually fossilize into more dust.
Most dust mines are ancient burial grounds. Creepy ain’t it?
Ozpin tried to capitalize on his success and tried to create super-soldiers to use said dust, aura, and semblances to protect humanity by combining human and animal traits.
Yep, Ozpin created the ancient faunus.
That and racism is indirectly his fault too.
He made the original faunus to be overseers and guardians to humanity.
In essence, they were designed to be feudal warlords with extra animal abilities that secretly answered only to him and ruled humans with iron fists.
Resulting human rebellions happened and Ozpin used his creations as scapegoats, letting them take all the blame and quietly …quieting anyone who knew the truth.
And that’s where the racism first came from. It has long since changed and muddied, but that was the initial reason.
He words all of this nicer and glides over the parts that make him look bad.
Salem and Ozpin have been picking at each other like that for eons.
Fall of Beacon only happened to try and distract Ozpin long enough for the latest scheme to kill him to be tried.
Destroying his pet project school was just a bonus.
Suffice it to say that that particular plan failed its main objective but still caused everything to fall apart.
Salem is now officially persona non grata, if she wasn’t already, among those present to the explanation.
Adam is trying to get more support from Sienna.
He has a small band of hardliners (psychos) with him but wants more bodies for his plans.
Gives big speech about faunus supremacy and the like.
Sienna tells him to fuck off, points out that he’s just repeating platitudes and doesn’t really care about the cause.
Reiterates his excommunication, citing working with Torchwick and Salem (despite the fact that she was cool with it at the time) as well as getting an unignorably large amount of his own people killed.
Collateral damage only goes so far, even for terrorists.
Adam vs Sienna.
Sienna wins and Adam slinks away, defeated but alive.
Adam’s hardliners get some more members but nowhere near what he wanted.
He’ll have to make do.
Salem wants him to do as terrorists do across Mistral.
Adam suggest that since Fall of Beacon worked fairly well… second verse same as the first?
Salem puts the kibosh on that plan.
She wants people to learn and thrive in a semi-natural way, she doesn’t want to just wipe them all out.
She’s fine with a little culling now and then but too much killing and they’ll never recover right.
Has new plan to try and kill Ozpin.
Has resurrected Tyrian, making a faunus/grimm Frankenstein thingy that she can directly possess at will.
All she needs is an opportunity to infiltrate him into Mistral.
Adam’s job is to provide an exploitable distraction.
He’s okay with that.
Yang has argument with Blake about running off like a punk.
Blake says it won’t happen again.
Yang says once bitten twice shy.
Ruby talks to Blake about Raven and Tai and the abandonment issues Yang has as a result of them both.
Meeting Raven and realizing that she was just a piece of shit this whole time only made things worse.
Says that Blake leaving like she did didn’t help.
Ruby also admits that her own leaving probably wasn’t great either.
Ruby wants her to know that she has faith in her but Yang has always needed a little more than faith.
Weiss airs some grievances to Yang about her dickish behavior.
Yang apologizes for her churlishness and reassures Weiss that the team is still going to be together but she is still mad at Blake.
Weiss tries to help smooth things over further but is interrupted.
Ilia shows up, is met with gun barrels.
Says she was sent by Sienna to take care of Adam, avoiding getting slotted by everyone.
Is kept at arm’s length but if she’s helping then, sure fine whatever, she can help.
Coco, Yatsuhashi, Weiss, and Ren try to talk to Ruby about not going crazy the next time she sees Cinder.
The best they can do is get her to agree that being so out of control insane while fighting her might not be the best way to fight.
They try and say that that’s really not good enough.
Ruby changes the subject via some odd noises she hears.
Haven headmaster (Lionheart? I barely know, or give much of a shit about, canon at this point) is part of The Cabal and is giving regular reports to Salem.
How else could CEMN masquerade as Haven students?
Almost gets walked in on.
Cheeses it but leaves the grimm thing that lets him talk to Salem.
Ruby has brief conversation with Salem.
Salem tries to tempt her, says that Ozpin is an asshole that only wants to control people not help them.
Ruby calls her a bitch.
Cites that Salem ruined her life and got some of her friends killed for this crap, not to mention her fucking mother.
Salem is just listening, still stunned from the audacity of being called a bitch right to her face.
Ruby finishes off by saying that even if Ozpin is an asshole, better the devil you know.
She then kills the grimm.
People now know there’s a turncoat and the only absolute they have is that it’s not Ruby or Ozpin (duh).
Everyone walking on eggshells, not sure who the traitor is.
Accusations are thrown around.
Eventually, after some shouting, everyone comes to the conclusion that it’s also not WBY, JNR, CFVY, or Qrow.
Logic starts to work its magic.
Lionheart tries to calm everyone down, IE: distract everyone from the growingly obvious.
Adam is up to his old tricks.
Blake and Ilia notice and point it out.
Lionheart breathes a sigh of relief as RWBY and JNR mobilize to stop Adam.
Adam is just a distraction.
Tyrian is slipped into the city via some bribes and carefully placed murders.
Adam has placed bombs across the city and broadcasts to the city that they’re doomed.
The civilians start to panic and draw grimm.
Mistral defense force is now busy dealing with said grimm.
Team splits up to stop the bombs.
Tyrian makes his move, attacks Ozpin directly.
Salem assumes direct control, hoping that this will count as her killing Ozpin herself.
SSSN and CFVY pop up and fight Tyrian!Salem.
Start getting their shit kicked in because it’s a fucking demi-goddess in a crazy scorpion demon body.
JNR returns.
Qrow finally does something too.
Ozpin even gets off his lazy ass.
Everyone helps take on Tyrian!Salem and win, killing Tyrian for good and pissing off Salem.
Ozpin got killed again to do it. (He’ll be back)
Blake and Yang find Adam.
Fight him, beat him, he runs away, we know how this song and dance goes.
Blake chases him alone.
Says that she has realized that Adam had been trying to commit suicide by anti-terrorism for a while.
Adam gets enraged and fights Blake again.
Adam final boss fight.
Blake starts winning.
Adam goes beyond the brink of madness.
In his anger he manages to destroy Blake’s weapon.
About to kill Blake but sees a little trinket he gave her when they were kids.
Sees his own reflection and sees a monster where he should be standing.
Realizes his own sense of self-destruction.
“I must already be dead,” –Vlad Dracula Tepes. It applies, says I.
Blake puts Adam down.
Yang arrives, worried that Blake ran off… again.
Blake has completely broken down.
Yang comforts Blake, who just had to kill one of her oldest friends.
Bombs and terrorists are dealt with.
RW see Blake is having troubles and embraces her along with Yang.
Blake, with tears in her eyes, swears to never abandon her team and friends ever again.
RWBY comes together and all vow to be there for each other.
Team RWBY are truly together once again.
Ruby uses parts from Adam’s weapon to repair and upgrade Blake’s.
Ozpin gets back up. (What I tell ya?)
Lionheart is found out as the traitor and calls everyone chicken shit for siding with Ozpin.
Says that Ozpin is a paranoid control freak who would strip them of all free will and thought if he could.
In fact, he says that that exact thing is Ozpin’s plan once Salem is beaten.
Salem at least promised freedom.
Ozpin doesn’t exactly deny these accusations by promptly and rather brutally executing Lionheart.
Reactions are cut short when a news bulletin plays on the TV about problems in Atlas.
WF-SDC war has officially stopped being a shadow war and there is now open combat in the streets.
They catch a very brief shot on the telly of something that looks a lot like a grimm arm on some chick.
Ruby has reacquired target-lock.
RWBY and JNR set off once again, this time for Atlas.
Season five done.
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kob131 · 2 years
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Hey man, I know it's kind of your bread and butter here to respond to and critique RWBY "critics", but I just gotta ask: why do you bother with them?
Look, i've been in this fanbase since 2016 and I've seen my fair share of BS from all sides. After a point I just decided to tune out the naysayers and enjoy the show and the parts of the fandom I do enjoy
So why do you do this to yourself? Why listen to these arrogant asshats who think they know how to write RWBY better than the writers of the show? It feels like you're just setting yourself up for suffering
Again, not trying to dissuade you from doing it, I'm just tryna know why?
There's a lot to say about this. I'll try to give a good summation-
Tl;Dr- I don't enjoy RWBY fanfics very often anymore, I don't like RWBY fanart, I can't listen to RWBY music without it showing up-
I'm a stubborn asshole who enjoys picking apart and understanding media. And that's what I like to enjoy about RWBY. Issue is- There is no part of the fandom that I can enjoy that with.
I think to fully understand my position, I'd need to walk you through the journey of how I got here. I'll try to keep it brief.
I basically started in the Pokemon Shipping community. I really liked a certain ship from the anime, joined up with a budding forum and enjoyed hanging out there for a time. In it, my biggest contribution was analyzing certain songs from the movies through a self admitted shipping lens. I enjoyed interpreting the songs in such a way and wanted more of that.
And lo and behold, I got that. My youtube feed recommended me a couple of channels based around reviewing, like Mr. Enter, The Nostalgia Critic and Bennett The Sage. So I started watching them and analyzing their content to try and understand them. Along the way when I watched Gurren Lagann, I found Digibro and TheBestGuyEvar's videos on the subject. It incentivised me to keep going as I gathered
Some time later, I was introduced to RWBY and Red vs. Blue by my high school best friend (partially through Death Battle). Which got me really hooked. Speaking of Gurren Lagann, the moment I watched RWBY I instantly went "this feels like Gurren Lagann" which surprised, I was inspired by. And this is where I really got into a fandom for the first time. I followed certain artists, read some fanfics and got into it. I even started getting into analysis on the main subreddit. But I wasn't satisfied. So I heard about the 'rwde' tag on tumblr and thought 'A tag for criticism about RWBY? Sounds perfect! I'm sure the guy saying it sucks is just a little miffed about criticism!'
... I think you know the story from here. Me getting into fights with RWDE posters, making friends along the way, losing friends, doing the dumbest shit possible, somehow growing up- I'm sure you know about this.
Thing is, though I have changed (I think) as a person since starting this, my feelings about criticism and analysis haven't changed. I still enjoy that the most by far, especially compared to other aspects of fandom. I still by far get the most enjoyment from challenging my views on media and seeing what people can gleam from it. ... Except that the RWBY fanbase has been SHIT at this for years now.
And because of my Asperger's, RWBY is one of the few things I feel compelled to talk about. But I don't feel satisfied without discussion or debate and I can't get that from locking myself in a certain part of the fanbase. So I keep going, hoping that I learn something. Yes, there is one RWBY critic I actually like (@faboover ) but my apitite for this stuff is far more ravenous.
And before anyone gets any bright ideas about seeing this in a positive light- this is also likely due to my own stubbornness and routine (going into the 'RWBY' search on twitter).
Am I gonna find shit? yes, this fandom is the embodiment of Sturgeon's Law.
But I want something different god damn it.
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jadekitty777 · 5 years
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Alright so, I need to talk about this, because I haven’t really seen it expressed by anyone else.  Tagging as RWDE just in case y’all don’t wanna read my salt. Because it’ll fill the ocean these days.
But Qrow keeping Clover’s pin pisses me off.
Not for the action itself, it’s a very heartfelt thing for a character to do, but it’s because of the lead up into this moment.
Everything in the last two episodes had a lot of subtext of these two being deeply in love. From them seeing a last sunrise, to Qrow swearing revenge in Clover’s honor, to him sobbing over his body, to these lyrics “I’ll be with you until the end”, to these lines “The fear of growing close to someone… the subsequent fear of loss”. To, finally, Qrow keeping a memento to remember Clover by.
But here’s the thing: the showrunners never bothered to confirm them in canon. No kiss, no declaration of feelings, no night out together, nothing. As far as we were given, it was the idea SOMEthing could be there, but these two men hadn’t yet made that leap.
But CRWBY decided to mesh together every romantic trope they could think up into a few single minutes and apply it to these two, like they had actually done the legwork to get to this point. Like they had earned this moment, when all they really did is half-ass it. And, as a writer myself who enjoys to see a great story unfold, that is infuriating.
They didn’t even have the courage to make Qrow and Clover hold hands, which has been this series’ staple of ‘these two people are going to be a couple’ since V3.
Love takes time and love takes work and telling the story of love is no different. You can’t cut corners to tell it. But that’s what CRWBY did with these two and are now both trying to capitalize on it with merchandise and downplay their involvement to mitigate damage. And you know what I think about that?
Our darling boy Clover says it best:
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knightofbalance-13 · 6 years
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https://caddeter.tumblr.com/post/174539392695/for-fuck-sake
Dude, I just left the fandom. Why the fuck are you doing this?
KKKoBias, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Depression
Anger issues
A lack of impulse control
Asperger’s
Take your pick
No, seriously, what the fuck?  You harassed someone for an entire week.  You did nothing but attack they’re opinions and the user just because they dared say something mean about RWBY.  You enabled a portion of the FNDM to attack that user and made a bad situation worse.  And then, when people bring that shit back because A. That’s kinda hard to just forget.  B. You still practice the same behavior that almost caused someone to kill themselves. and C. You bring shit back all the time, no matter how legitimate what your saying is(Which knowing you, it isn’t), you try to make it sound like we’re the bad guys?
Funny hyow you don’t bring up the link in question whereas I did.
And do.
https://comments.deviantart.com/1/619991269/4290345087
Probably because if you looked at the comments, you’ll notice something:
A. While the comment chain began on Dec. 22 and ended on Dec. 27...The person in question only responded on Dec.26. Meaning that not only are you two days short but you’re also three days off. Two days of internet arguing is not that bad.
B. I didn’t enable anyone. I posted the link on reddit but I never encouraged anyone to attack them. And looking through the comments, it did NOTHING to the reaction which is mostly positive. I was wrong to post it on reddit yes, but that ISN’T your argument here so it is not correct.
C. I only bring stuff up when someone tries arguing a moral point. Dudeblade calling the CRWBY homophobic looks a lot less convincing when you see he is guilty of the same thing and still acts like he’s better.
D. I’m gonna be blunt: They weren’t gonna kill themselves. Having looked back at the situation in hindsight and discussed the situation: This was just someone trying to use suicide as a way to end an argument. I never told them they were shit or hell, even insulted them in the slightest or implied anything that would trigger such an event. And immediately afterward, they edited their journal entry with lies about the situation. None of this is like what an actual sucidial person would do.
You harassed a DeviantArt user and block evaded for an entire week, always ignoring when they told you to leave them alone.  You brought this into the RWBY reddit, and knowing you, I’ll be my entire house that you did it to tell them “Hey, look at this idiot.” You didn’t even bother to try and apologize until you were told to, like the spoiled, self-righteous child you are.  You called them a member of a fictional terrorist organization just because they said something you didn’t like and stood their ground.   You claimed you wanted to ‘educate’ anyone who disagreed, as in didn’t like, didn’t enjoy, didn’t find interesting or compelling, several emotional responses, completely subjective things, to see things your way.
A. I couldn’t have block evaded for a week if our conversation was only two days long.
B. Already apologized for it and stopped doing it.
C. https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/5khw9y/my_thoughts_on_pyrrhas_death_rwby_and_rt_by_jswf/
I never expressed that sentiment here. So do I get the house or do you just give it up?
D.
Being a terrorist isn't the point of the White Fang: It's the fact that they were once peaceful and in the right. Until their own hatred and anger devolved them into being no better than the force they fought. Kind of like what happened to you and your group. To the point that I see you as below me. And considering I think about killing myself, that's pretty fucking low/
Context disagrees with you: I did it to illustrate that he wasn’t any better than what he fought against.
E. Press Ctrl+F and type in the word ‘educate’.
I only said the word once and
And I never said "educate', just show them both sides of the argument. Just like in Civil War, there is no right or wrong here. Just a difference of opinions. I only aimed to give a balanced view.
It was a response to him saying that I was saying that. I never said that: you’re lying.
And you have the god damn nerve to try and say we’re making shit up?
Context, the link you gave never said that and what you’re referring to could just be me pointing out how you people make stuff up about the show, which is seperate from this argument.
jswb wasn’t and isn’t trying to shame people into not speaking against them, neither is the RWDE tag.  You are trying to scare people into not talking.  This has happened multiple times before.  Someone posts something you don’t like, and you stalk and harass them until they delete the post.  You threatened Kidgecat with physical violence over a shit post. The idea that you nearly caused someone to commit suicide isn’t an impossibility.  The only impossibility is the idea that you didn’t. You’re not some grand anti-hero trying to help the FNDM, you never were and never will be.  The first reason for that is that anti-heroes don’t see themselves as heroes.  The second reason is that every time you get involved, a situation goes from bad to worse as you pull out every underhanded trick, every lie you could tell, every alt blog you need to pull out and make, just because someone said, ‘Hey, I kinda don’t like this thing about RWBY.’  Be it an in-depth analysis or a fucking joke, you don’t stop until they concede, till they say your right and give up their opinion for yours.
1.
The guy I've been chatting with Knight of Balance, has basically says he wants to 'educate' everyone who disagrees with the direction the show has been going, insulting me and others who dislike Pyrrha's death and he wants to silence us. I hid his comments so he wouldn't get a chance to 'educate my audience', his words not mine. He says he 'won't let Miles and Kerry bring Pyrrha back'. Oh really? Let's show him that he doesn't control us. Do not be quiet about how awful, insulting, needlessly cruel, and forced Pyrrha's death was. Don't let them get away with it, let them know how disappointed you are and let your voices be heard. People like him think they can control us, let's show them how wrong they are. 
He says this right AFTER blocking me.
I broke down crying, shaking, nearly throwing up, I read all of those hateful, hurtful, cruel, and insulting comments and I replied to the guy's comment with a off-putting all caps reply telling him know that I was breaking down and was about to end myself and when I did that he backed off, probably feeling like he had won, because he said himself that he was 'metaphorically' willing to drag me down to hell. I was a nervous wreck, I was being overwhelmed and felt like I wanted to die. I grabbed some scissors and nearly killed myself but thankfully I was able to remember all of the reasons I have for living like my family, my friends, the stories I write and the fans I've gotten, the stories I want to continue reading or watching, I realized I had so many reasons to live so I was able to stop myself.
To stuff like this:
*Sigh* Look, I never meant for you to get this stressed out. Hell, I understand where your coming from. Thinking about killing myself is such a common occurrence now I'm not even fazed by it anymore. So putting aside my feeling towards you and your conduct, I want you to listen to what i have to say: Your life matters. No matter what you think I've said, no matter what other people have said, no matter what you say, your life matters. You have friends and family who love and care about you and if you kill yourself, all it will do is wound those around you. It's painful I know but it's true. The best thing you can do is seek help above all else. Trust me, psychiatrists maybe be expensive by by divinty' sake they are miracle workers. And I know you're sick of hearing about this anime but really, look up Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. That anime is a large part of why I get out of bed in the morning even thought I know there's a very good chance I'll choke to death on my breakfast, lunch or dinner or that my life probably doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. It taught me to keep moving forward no matter what I lose or what I suffer because there is a light at the end of the tunnel. The journey is hard and long but it's worth it. I never intended on hurting you. Had I known you were this psychologically fragile or you were this invested in Pyrrha I would have said nothing. I understand where you are coming from and I'm sorry I did so much damage to you. I was wrong and you were right. Good day.
So I don’t think any of THAT is valid.
2. Link ouright contradicts you...And that was froma YEAR and a HALF ago.
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3. And you guys have caused mental damage to several people in teh fandom. However not all of it is your fault because some people are just that way. Your reactions of ‘not my issue/fuck that person’ however...
4. Two points. A. Batman sees himself as a hero and he’s the basis for most anti-heroes. B. I stopped thinking myself as someone right a LONG time ago. I just act in what I think is best and trust that if I’m wrong, I’ll fail. I live by a ‘The right are the strongest’ AKA people who are right will defeat people who are wrong philosophy. People have beaten me before in debates and I have immense respect for them.
5A. Like not linking your proof?
5B. Like making up a quote?
5C. Stopped doing that after people told me it was wrong.
5D. Explain why I personally make an effort to care for certain critics of RWBY. Like @faboover who despite disagreeing with about Volume 4, I personally make an effort to help him and encourage him. Explain the CRTQ blog which I was the most active member of and made quite a few complaints about RWBY. Explain the event of this very situation you quote I NEVER call his opinion wrong, just his actions.
6. Then I wonder why a lot of my friends have differing opinions of RWBY.
You know what, screw it.  Not only is this going in the main tag, it’s only going in the main tag, and I’m doing everything I can to make sure the fandom sees you for the self-important, unrelenting, egotistical, uncaring, and cruel person you are.
So you try arguing a moral position while expressly trying to slander me? ... So you contradict everything you’ve done here?
And you got half of these wrong. I’m self important, I’m not egotistical nor am I uncaring. I am unrelenting though it switches from good to bad at times and I do have a sadistic side.
But here’s teh deal:
jswv is self important in thinking that disagreeing with them is hateful.
Sokumotanaka is egotistical because he thinks all criticisms against him are invalid and his opinion is objective fact,
And Dudeblade,someone I KNOW you personally interact with, is uncaring as he suicide baited an LGBT person after talking about LGBT suicide rates and proceeded to make a backhanded apology.
And the last two are EXCEEDINGLY cruel people, as well as sociopathic and bigoted.
So why don’t you call them out?
Easy: They agree with you. You don’t care about other people if they don’t agree with you. I’d bet if jswv was praising RT and I was arguing about how much of an ass kisser they were: You’d fucking love me.
Not that any of this matters: You people crossed the fucking line with that doxxing incident so i ain’t dealing with your shit anymore.
Go find someone else to call your boogeyman.
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If you don't like RWDE, why keep following the tag? Serious question, and I'm not saying you're wrong, or that those other fuckers are. There will always be incorrect opinions on the internet, so why bother yourself with this? I'm pretty sure nobody from roosterteeth's gonna see these tags, anyway.
Probably because, with every fandom seems to be doing nowadays, they usually take things way too far and end up accusing the content creators of horrible stuff.
I don’t want things to end up like Steven Universe, where they try to push someone into fucking suicide over a fictional drawing. Or Tokyo Ghoul, when people sent death threats and suicide bait to the creator just for having two opposite sex characters hook up.
Plus, it can get annoying seeing characters getting shit on for being, you know, characters...
“Jaune’s a selfish, screentime stealing douchebag!.”
“Taiyang’s an absuive, ableist, dudebro!”
“Weiss is still a racist, privileged, bitch for not apologizing to Blake!”
Etc and ad nausem.
Not to mention, I’ve seen people accused of racism, misogyny, homophobia, etc, over fictional characters. FICTIONAL. CHARACTERS.
Like, dude, I understand getting worked up over characters, but that’s just inane.
I once saw someone claiming that heterosexuality in RWBY was a cliche. 90% of the human population is now cliched, apparently.
Look, I know RWBY isn’t perfect, no show ever truly is, but it gets pretty annoying seeing people overexaggerate the flaws of the show. There are legit criticisms to be had, but it’s not going to help if people just keep complaining.
So yeah, I don’t have many good experiences with RWDE, and honestly, I don’t want the fandom to turn into a cesspool. At least, that’s how I look at things.
Still, I’ll try to keep the RWDE thing to a minimum. I don’t want it to take it over my life. Thanks for sending me this message, tho. Gave me a chance to see things in perspective. And honestly, I’d be glad to have some honest conversations with you. Hope you have a good one :)
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@pageoflore
Well, you told me to be brief, I shall be brief.
PS. I’m doing this on my own post so the OP can’t delete my reblog.
1. It doesn’t matter if op was “mean” about the headcanon, it doesn’t diminish the fact that you brought up blatant transphobic points, such as implying that queer headcanons cause people to become “dependent” and prone to lashing out. You’ve mentioned these points multiple times when dealing with people with queer headcanons. The fact that you’re unwilling to acknowledge that queer people get ticked off at other fans because of their queerphobia, that their anger is perfectly understandable and provoked, doesn’t mean that it’s not true.
Hey, here’s some facts on trans representation in media:
http://pacificcenter.org/trans-representation-in-the-media
2. Heterophobia does not exist in the same way that homophobia does. Heterophobia is born out of actual fear of getting murdered and homophobia is when bigots hate and want to diminish queer folks. When there have been hundreds of years of The Straights being murdered, experimented on, sexually assaulted, and socially outcast purely because of who they love, then you can fucking get back to me you little shit.
Compulsory homosexuality also isn’t a fucking thing that actually exists, while compulsory heterosexuality is well established https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_heterosexuality
https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/compulsory-heterosexuality - for the exact same reasons. Nobody is gonna arrest you for not shipping gay ships, even if you’ve let your alt-right buddies brainwash you into thinking so.
3. The post not only humanizes a man who is the face of genocide, but it implies that everyone has the capacity for the amount of hatred and cruelty needed to orchestrate the extermination of an entire ethnic minority. By agreeing with that post, you’re diminishing the horror that Hitler and his men committed.
4. If you actually read your sources you would know they’re alt-right - Breitbart in particular has been in the news lately because Bannon was advising the president for a time. So either you did read them and knew damn well what they were or you were pulling any random source that would support your points, which makes you the liar here, bud. Btw, here’s another time you pulled from alt right/far right sources to prove your point. Showing that you continue to be biased
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/163935557185/httpssokumotanakatumblrcompost163928898054r#notes
5. Assuming that any queer people that have lgbt head canons are inherently more likely to react violently is aggressively queerphobic. Like do I even have to explain why calling people with trans headcanons delusional and unstable is fucking awful? I will, by equating trans headcanons with instability and mental illness, you’re being transphobic
6. Humor that punches down, which you’ve defended, is shown through studies to be a gateway for other oppressive acts, and humor in general is used to define social groups and point out “outcasts” that make the group more cohesive. By defending stereotyping humor, you’re saying that censorship is more terrible than racism.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/humor-sapiens/201107/does-racist-humor-promote-racism
http://sjwiki.org/images/8/88/Racism_pyramid.png
http://news.jrn.msu.edu/bullying/2012/03/27/a-new-bullying-social-exclusion/
7. Links can be deleted, but sure, I’ll add links
(Compulsory Heterosexuality)
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/163995358715/that-kawoshin-evageek-knightofbalance-13#notes
(Transphobic statements)
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/163977205610/hey-dude-i-know-that-with-the-trans-danny-phantom#notes
(The original Danny Phantom post)
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/163969249240/cryptid-milk-queer-aviculor-plasmas-king#notes
(The defending stereotype humor post)
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/163960564185/celticpyro-offensive-humor-plays-on-stereotypes#notes
As for why I’m specifically addressing your posting history and political alignment, it’s because I want to be quite clear on the fact that I don’t detest you arbitrarily or because you have “different opinions~”. You’ve repeatedly shown yourself to be a bigot with no intention of allowing others to educate you on things outside your scope of reference. That’s why no one who is actually familiar with your behavior can stand you, unless they’re also already steeped in this bullshit.
So now that we have that out of the way, let us continue with this fuckery. 
2. You’ve shown far more tendency to stalk, belittle, humiliate, and attempt to control others than anyone - in the rwde tag or otherwise. I’ve personally witnessed you attack people over minor phrasing or opinions different from yours, completely unprovoked and out of the blue. Admittedly members of the RWDE tag can be abrasive in their opinions, but generally speaking they stick to the tag and don’t really go out of their way to bother people unless they’re being shitheads. Case in point, tbh.
Also you have admitted yourself to creating sideblogs in order to circumvent people block you, in order to bait people into agreeing with sockpuppets spewing suicide-baiting behavior, and in order to have arguments with yourself. Which I guess is necessary since you couldn’t argue your way out of a paper bag.
Here’s links to your alt accounts, btw:
https://rwbyfan18.tumblr.com/post/158649725205/checkmate
https://shadecritic.tumblr.com/post/158838072733/technoskittles-knightofbalance-13#notes
https://shadecritic2.tumblr.com/post/158857532333/rwbycriticism-i-cannot-risk-making-a-tai-post-in#notes
https://shadecritic3.tumblr.com/post/158646451814/corn-on-the-kob-sounds-like-hes-just-starving-for#notes
4. As a final comment, not everyone who disagrees with me is a bigot! However you personally? You’re an asshole, and you have absolutely no sense of nuance. You have zero grasp of what it means to belong to a minority, which is ironic as fuck considering how much you love using your autism as a shield while at the same time implying that others’ mental health makes them unreliable and dangerous.
“RWDE” as a tag is not moderated or controlled by anyone, and though most regulars take care to call people out when they’re assholes, there’s nothing we can do if people choose to use the tag. You, on the other hand, have full control over who you follow and what you choose to reblog. This is just a thought, a suggestion, but maybe fucking look closer to home and start knighting on yourself before you try preaching to anyone else you little shit.
Oh and just in case anyone is confused about whether or not you’re a huge piece of shit, here’s you talking about pedophilia with your usual charm, grace, and sense of morality.
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/164081508615/darkvioletcloud-rwbycrit-riproarrude#notes
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/164077458930/mageknight14-takashi0-darkvioletcloud#notes
https://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/164076260355/mageknight14-darkvioletcloud-rwbycrit#notes
Here’s how fiction, media, and fandom impacts us in reality
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/feb/14/fictional-characters-make-existential-crossings-into-real-life-study-finds?CMP=share_btn_tw
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mind-stage/201211/do-fictional-characters-affect-our-real-life
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0055341
https://ed.ted.com/lessons/jessica-wise-how-fiction-can-change-reality
http://www.letusfindout.com/how-does-media-affect-our-lives/
https://www.reference.com/world-view/media-affect-lives-6b6a615175e11882
https://www.themarysue.com/the-psychology-of-fandom/
http://www.gnovisjournal.org/2012/09/26/how-do-we-explain-fandom/
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865637961/How-fandom-connects-a-community-and-improves-lives.html
Here’s links to studies on how pedophiles using the internet to find and groom victims/how pedophiles groom victims
https://www.rt.com/uk/359895-nspcc-pedophiles-grooming-online/
https://patch.com/massachusetts/sudbury/bp–stats-about-online-predators-and-precautions-parec47b01a336
http://puresight.com/Pedophiles/Online-Predators/online-predators-statistics.html
http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-632111.pdf
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01639625.2016.1197656
https://ojp.gov/ovc/publications/bulletins/internet_2_2001/NCJ184931.pdf
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that with how media impacts us in reality and how pedophiles groom children that AdultxMinor ships can be used to harm minors involved in fandom culture by sexual predators. Also, since I don’t deal with pedophile apologists, don’t expect anymore responses from me.
Take all of this...and throw it in the trash. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand and is in fact a form of logical fallacy. Three in one in fact: “Poisoning the well” (The points about the “alt-right” sources when they give one example playing of people’s hatred of Trump when in fact there is no proof that said adviser approved anything viewed as alt-right Trump has done), “moving the goalposts” (The entire first part of the post) and “Ad Hominin” ( the first ahlf of the post, and pounts 2 and 4.) Within these are the three uses of fact manipulation by RWDE: Lie, Cheat and Misinform. (Lie: Saying that I made transphobic statements in the link, talking about a post that “humanizes” Hitler when actually it was showing he just did stuff normal people did, doing nothing about his crimes, Saying that I was talking about queer peopelw hen my posts were about people who obsess over headcanons to the point that’s all they talk about. Cheat: not reblogging this directly as to manipulate the facts more easily as well as calling all my sources as alt-right simple because one person advised Trump and not showing how they acted alt-right, let alone showing how the other sources were “alt-right.” Misinform: Talking about how I was defending pedophiles when I was actually defending media and saying that the people (AKA the pedophiles) should be the ones punished and locked away, not the media itself.)
All you should take from this that out of about 15 points, only two even remotely pertain to the original two posts. For the math, they spent 86.7% of the post attacking me instead of addressing the points I original made. That is how little is actually here. Now this isn’t for my benefits: I could go in depth and totally deconstruct
So let’s address the actual points shall we?
1. You admittedly didn’t become a fan of the show until after Monty died. You don’t know what M&K or other members of the RT crew have or have not historically said and done. You’re completely unaware of the various developments the fandom as a whole has gone through, both purely as a fandom and in our relationship with the creators. Why you think you can know everything that has gone on and is going on in the fandom is anyone’s guess.
Research. I’ve asked people and looked back through the history of fandom as well as drawn upon long term fans of the show to see what was going on. I know for a fact that the LGBT character was never promised in a specific volume. I can also show that Miles, the one accused of being egotistical the most, has shown modesty and humility, thus disproving or at least casting very severe the whole argument about RT being egoistical isn’t true.
3. Every bit of criticism we’ve given, even in the beginning has been met with a handwave and then was ignored. From the queerbaity “Just wait for it, it needs to feel earned, it needs to be natural.” to the pretty racist “Here’s some more poc characters, one is a villain and a few are heroes but it won’t matter because none of them will get any lines after this” to the white fang plotline which is a complete dumpster fire - though there are others who have covered that better and more in depth than I have. Also, if you have any proof that Miles is actually listening and implementing things because of criticism, I would like to see that.
A. That is limiting their creative freedom and freedom should never be waved for anything aside from physical harm.
B. That is racist thinking that because a racial minority is villain means it’s racist, especially since 1. not every person who fails under your generalization as a few of people who fit under that classification have called you out and numerous others have not aid a word against it thus it comes across as “these people don’t count because they don’t fit the mold I think they should fit” and 2. Thinking that racial minorities can’t play any role other than the “perfect, can do no worn, center of attention” hero and thus preventing them from being realistic and good. Also, POC stands for Peoplel of Color. Which is Colored People backwards, the same title that these groups were getting called back in the days of blatant racism. Good job there.
C. Jaune Arc getting less and less focus with each Volume. he went from having an arc in Volume 1 to sharingan arc with Pyrrha and Blake in Volume 2 to being a plot/angst device in Volume 3 to being built up only to have Jaune push away all of his build up to make Ruby look good in Volume 4. You all just refuse to acknowledge it and focus solely on him, which ironically makes you all sexist by your own logic.
The fact that only two points of yours, 13.3% of your post, is actually about addressing my points and the rets is trying to attack me personally shows how little you actually have against me. And what little you have is easily debunked.
You claim that I am a pedo apologizer but judging by your arguments, what you actually mean is “Um...I have nothing to actually so....PEDOPHILE!” which is an example of Godwin’s law which states that when you use a universal insult against someone, you’ve pretty much consceded the argument. In fact, it should have ended the minute you called me alt-right AKA a Neo Nazi, showing that you just keep trying lob more and more labels onto me because I disagree with you and you can’t prove me wrong. Just as I have said in the past.
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And right off the bat you lie, so how about we take a look at this so-called “rebuttle”
I’m only bothering unblocking you and refuting this because I hate being accused of things I never said or meant. Also because the point went right over head, as it usually does.
And yet you will do the exact same thing to me that you accuse me of doing to you, except you will have no proof and no reason to other Ad Hominin. Also, first sentence and you lied: I can’t reblog this post and you don’t need to unblock to respond: People have done it before with me so this is complete bullshit.
1) If you’re including songs in an official soundtrack it’s because they’re reflective to the events that happen in canon. That’s the message I was trying to convey to the people reading the post, and that’s why it makes Jeff’s comments revoking the songs’ canonicity confusing and frustrating to hear.
Yeah well Word Of God triumphs assumptions: Any fan can tell you that what a creator says is law and thus if Jeff is only giving his interpretation and says that his songs aren’t canon, then that’s the truth, not what you claim. SO basic fandom laws beat you on the first point: Not a good start.
2) Jeff didn’t just decide to make the songs on his own as some kind of unrelated fan project he thought people might like. He was hired by RT to produce profitable content for their show. It’s meant to be as close to canon as possible. If the soundtrack and the show tell two different stories you’re bound to have a problem.
Mind providing the proof that RT hired him for that specific reason? Because Jeff’s actions and words seem to draw the conclusion that they wanted him to make an engaging soundtrack and left him to his own devices and interpretations of how it sound go, similar to how they didn’t have specific fight scenes with Monty, letting him do what he wanted instead. Also, notice how Bmblb isn’t in the show itself. So it’s not contradicting anything.
But I will point out how when Not Falling In Love With You and All Our Days got shot down you didn’t saw a word but when a song supporting Bumbleby gets shot down, suddenly this is a problem. This shows that your intent is not to criticize RT but attack RT and try to make them look bad for shooting down the canonicity of your ship. So your attempt at being factual and such is defeated by the fact that if this were a problem before, you should have spoken up sooner.
3) You are correct, people can watch a show simply because they enjoy it. Identification doesn’t always factor within individual cases of viewership.
However, this is not the point in case. What Jeff had said in an interview with Murder of Birds back in January is that since no characters (he mentioned Ruby as an example) were never specifically mentioned in the songs, then these songs don’t have any actual meaning.
This is conflicting since these songs share motifs and themes relating to certain characters. Jeff then dismisses the fans and tells them to “go outside”, hurting the feelings of the fanbase who are invested in the characters he writes songs about. These people pay money to own these creations he was employed to sell because they hold sentimental value in them. What these fans pay provides Jeff with the means to make a living. He is, in fact, biting the hand that feeds him. Berating the fan base is not taking the “moral high ground”. It’s antagonizing your audience for a critical minority whose activities Jeff may not even be aware of.
That actually makes sense considering Yang’s theme only takes about her love for battle and nothing about her maternal side, Blake’s theme only talks about the White Fang’s struggle and not her personal struggle with her fear. Meaning that Jeff made the songs in a way that would entice viewers and not in the way that perfectly represents the characters,
And considering the fact that, again as I said in my post, he’s been harassed, attacked, called every form of bigot imaginable, his friends have been sent hate mail, Arryn was driven to delete her tweet and people still hound him about it: he has every right to call people who do that out. And judging from his words, he didn’t call the whole fanbase out: only the people that made this into a controversy IE the RWDE tag. Don’t try lumping the entire fandom and you together as if you rare all the only fans of RWBY. From what I saw, most people didn’t care at all. It was only a select few Bumbleby shippers and regular RWDE tag posters making a fuss over it. SO I think you should get called out for quite frankly disgusting behavior.
Or, you know, some people buy it because they’re good songs. See, that’s your problem: you generalize the entire fanbase into what you think and believe but not all fans share you mentality. Unless you can PROVE that the fans do so, I’m gonna go by the fact that they do this for a number of reasons in which your side is only one of and thus your argument is invalid. My proof being the fact that this is the first time I’ve seen this argument on any blog despite following famous and active RWBY blogs and following MurderOfBirds myself.
4) What Jeff said was not in response to the BM/BLB incident, nor did the original post ever reference it in any way. As I mentioned before, the event in question was an interview Murder of Birds hosted in January of this year. The situation that rose with BM/BLB has nothing to do with the argument I was trying to convey.
Except that was the only example of this action being seen as bad or controversial at all, so it’s the only example applicable to your argument. So this either means you’re lying or your argument is entirely hypothetical and thus should be disregarded.
5) I have never said I consider myself to be a “true” or “real fan”. A search through my blog will yield no such evidence of me making such statements. This is a false accusation. If anyone has made such statements, I am likely not affiliated with them. Furthermore, the RWDE tag is not an organization or a hivemind. I am not responsible for the actions of individuals who interact with it unless I am personally implicated in any altercations.
No, RWDE is a community that supports a hivemind mentality, as shown when the most regular of your posters git attacked for showing an opinion that contradicted what the majority said.
And yet you claim that your opinion is the entirety of the fandom’s opinions: Your actions and your words aren’t lining up.
6) You haven’t prevented anything. You overestimate your place in the public relations between the CRWBY and the fandom. The RWDE tag isn’t as menacing or influential as you think it is. We aren’t some Saturday morning cartoon bent on causing havoc and it’d be best for all parties involved if you didn’t think we’re characters you can “boss fight” instead instead of real people with actual feelings and differing opinions.
Yeah, I might feel a little bad...if you didn’t take my words out of context:
AKA The exact same thing I TRY to prevent. Congrats, you justified what I do here.
Notice the word “TRY” which denotes that I try to do it but I don’t necessarily succeed in. You just warped my words to make me look worse and make you look better. so your point about me treating you as things and not people kind of falls apart, especially since I haven’t argued that your opinions are invalid without logical reasoning, especially here where all I said was “your opinion is not the only one.” The only person seeing people as things would be the ones treating RT as slaves who aqre not allowed to do anything they don’t approve of, who must do exactly what they say at the moment they want it and call them bigots of every variety, assault them, disregard what they want and use their friends as an attack on them AKA what the RWDE community does. So don’t wait upon for me to start being especially compassionate.
7) You bring RT’s queerbaiting into this yet this isn’t about queerbaiting so now you’re not even addressing the issue at hand. But since you wanna talk about obligations, RT isn’t obligated to make characters canonically straight either. They just did. So why not do the same with LGBT characters? You can’t seriously expect one gay character can possibly represent several orientations and gender identities. Aren’t you a Knight of Balance? Surely you’re annoyed by the disparity of het relationships and the absence of same-gender ones. Unless you’re just a self-serving hack who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Actually, take a look at my post you won’t see queerbaiting anywhere in there: Just one mentiopn of teh LGBT character as a response to what RT owes you which also relates to the BMBLB controversy which, again, is the only example you have of this event happening so it does in fact connect to the argument at hand. Right off the bat, your whole argument is invalidated.
Even more so by the fact that thuggish supports what I said before: You see RT as slaves who can only do what you want. See, what comes first and foremost is what the fans’ freedom and the creator’s freedom. The fans are allowed to do what they want so the creators are allowed to do so. You do not respect that at all: You want the freedom but gi8ve RT very little. Something that a select few of a select few of a select few want takes secondary priority to what the creator’s freedom as well as their relationship and viewpoint of their fans. SO nice try. I can’t supp rot there being an LGBT character because it means condoning your actions and what you say and do so good job, lost an ally.
And that’s a mirror your calling a self serving hack, probably because yopu only speak up now when BMBLB got shot down, not when Alll Our Days or Not Fall In Love With You did, the first and second times this happened and thus when you should have made this argument if you cared.
8) I thought you hated Evangelion? Why are you suddenly praising Evangelion as a source of inspiration for RWBY? Besides, no one except trolls would consume media actively made to spite them. So per your claims, it seems the creator failed to piss off people seeing how it made that much money, which in fact isn’t a very successful amount for a movie.
1. *Stands still as eyes grow dark* Piece of advice: Never do that again.
2. Actually, most anime movies don’t gross that much unless your name is “Mizaki”, especially in 1996 when EoE aired. And that doesn’t discount Evangelion as a whole which, despite my immense hatred for it, is one of if not the most profitable anime series of  all time and insulting it’s audience is something it has always done. So your point fails once again.
9) RT DOES need me. Fans like me PAY to keep them afloat. A company is nothing without revenue. If there are no customers, you go out of business. Besides, when has anyone in rwde advocated piracy? I watch the episodes in the RT website or YouTube. If I’m not mistaken, I even reblogged someone calling out those who pirate the show.
No, fans like you usually pirate the show, complain about it and then claim yu pay for it.
Right here: (https://web.archive.org/web/20170811202745/http://dudeblade.tumblr.com/post/162739489136/studiogible2016-rwby-rants-and-theories-no) And I have gone through the notes on your post, the reblogger’s post and Dudeblade’s post: You did no such thing. And none of the versions imply any of you blocked anyone so it had to be visible if it ever happened. SO nope: Wrong here.
Bottom line: Sorry, bucko. Sounds like you don’t have a leg to stand on. Now stop stalking my blog just to find shit to “debunk”. Find something to do. Maybe you’ll find articles not written by some alt-right shit-for-brains.
Bye, Felicia.
I’m not the one who lies, cheats and misinforms while using logical fallacies (like calling me alt-right there with no evidence and has no place in the debate thus making it Ad Hominin). Maybe I would respond to you if you weren’t being such a horrid debater. Also, sorry sweetheart, but that’s the thing: You can’t control me no matter how much you lie and whine. Public site and freedom of speech: I can call you out whenever I want. Even if you try to silence me because you suck at debating (as you did  here.)
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Oh boy...
By the looks of it, people tend to get offended on the characters’ behalf. People don’t believe that characters would do a certain action, or react a certain way.
The question that I’m going to at least try to answer, is “Why?”
Why do we want these characters treated a certain way?
Replace “people” with “the rwde tag and it’s detractors” then you’d be right. And we already know why you get offended on people’s behalf: In the case of Yang, you get angry because you project your family problems onto Taiyang despite the fact that multiple people have attested that’s not what you say. For Sun, it’s because you think he’s being abusive and yet ignore Adam’s abuse. And for Jaune....bias and to bash the writers.
Whether it be because the fans share the same experiences as them, or personalities, or simply because we think they’re ‘cool,’ - We relate to them.
This is why I think that people get so passionate about how these characters are being treated. If we were in their shoes, we would want the same level of respect.
Here’s the thing: you AREN’T them! As much as you relate to characters, that doesn’t make you them at all. You don’t have their experiences, personality, family and expectations. You aren’t them so what is offensive to you may not be to them, as shown by the numerous people who have told you that their families operate in the same way Yang and Taiyang does.
If this is why I have a beef with Tai, I’d like to share my reasons:
We already know why you have a beef with him: He doesn’t operate how you wanted him to, you project problems he cannot control onto him and you get encouragement to do so. No matter what you say, this is the truth built through observation and evidence such as admitting that Taiyang might not be offensive but refusing to take that route despite all the evidence says you should or that you directly compare your mom to him, who you hate, or that your stance on him was neutral at first but has degraded as more and more people egg you on.
For starters, we (as the audience) never really knew anything about Taiyang Xiao Long. The only things that we knew about him were the fact that he shut down after Summer’s death, and that he has a tendency to send dogs through the mail.
- (incidentally, I believe that Zwei started as a therapy dog.)
Those were the only things we knew about Tai. So, having him say such things like “You lost some brain cells with that arm of yours.” Comes out of nowhere for us (or at least, me.) Again, Port and Oobleck wereshocked by this, and rightfully so. Had Yang not laughed, the professor and doctor would have been scaredSHITLESS about Yang’s mental health.
Okay, first off:
A. The argument that Yang’s laugh can’t be taken into account about Taiyang being offensive is akin to saying that Yang was a terrible sister in Volume 1 if you exclude that time she was running to save Ruby’s life: it’s cruical and important and taking it out just makes you wrong and not the writers.
B. You act as though Taiyang did nothing from the moment we saw him in Volume 3 to Volume 4, Episode 4 whereas we see on at least four different occasions he’s a kind and caring father and thus that is established. Just as well, you can draw conclusions on a person by who their friends and family are. Port is not above insulting his students to teach them a lesson and Oobleck can be harsh as well. And then we have Qrow and Yang herself. Qrow is Taiyang’s long time teammate, brother in law and probable partner and he himself has insulted and criticized his nieces before as well and Yang herself has ditched Ruby to be on her own the moment they got to Beacon. These four examples show that Taiyang keeps the company of harsh but well meaning individuals. And then there’s the fact that Rooster Teeth VA’s share quite a few aspects of their personality with their characters, especially RWBY characters as Monty outright designed quite a few of them around the VAs. And Taiyang’s voice is provided by Burnie Burns, a fatherly member of RT...and one of the biggest snarkers in history, to the point the Lenoard Church isn’t that far off. All of these things point to the fact that what taiyang did wasn’t OOC but actually expanding on his character, his company clues us in that he’s like that and his VA supports that.
So you don’t have a point to stand upon here.
Now, I’m not trying to demonize Tai here (though I know that Kob will try to find a way to make it sound like I did), but this means that the writers don’t exactly understand how PTSD works, or at least, they don’t know how to present it.
A. You aren’t trying to demonize Taiyang here, you’re trying to demeonize the writers. 
B. Tv Tropes disagrees as U have shown that in the meta folder of the Awesome tag for RWBY, an actual Amputee praised Rooster Teeth for their work. So, as a person without an amputated arm, you have less of a reason to find it offensive.
They skipped over many things. Like Yang’s reaction to having to take off the arm, or how to emphasize that it was her decision alone and not because she overheard Tai’s conversation with her teachers, or what events led her to trying to go out on her own.
So? I can’t think of anything to cut out of Volume 4 as everything was so abre bones due to the fact that RT can’t make any more episodes or longer episodes of RWBY without losing money. RWBY’s primary focus is to make money, that’s how companies work.And what you are demanding would lose them money. Not to mention the fact that they have to work with 3D animation which is harder than 2D and have a very limited amount of time, espeically when you take RWBY chibi into account,
Boiling it down to the little that we see comes off as the writers only fulfilling the barest minimum requirement of what to represent. At this point, I don’t care about the prosthetic (so don’t even bother with that tvtropes entry) what I care about, is how PTSD was represented.
Probably because that’s all they can do and afford in that time span. RWBY isn’t on a major network nor is it backed by a huge company nor is it the sole project of Rt nor does it even make money to watch it. \
And once again, people in the group you are being offended for are fine with it. Maybe not everyone but unless it’s a majority, that’s just human subjectivity.
Also: You said you’d be talking about Taiyang and now you’re ranting about teh writing. Not a great omen.
Again, there have been other shows that have handled PTSD with more respect than RWBY. If Legend of Korra can do it, then I’d expect that RWBY, a show that one of the writers seems to believe is better than LoK (if his comments are to be believed), should have no problem.
A. Legend Of Korra had a previously established background and basis, ahd more eperience behind it, more money behind it and more time behind it.
And B. Miles just said he personally didn’t like it. Not professionally, personally. Of course, I doubt you know the difference.
Who is at fault here?
Nobody wants to see their favorite character being mistreated by canon. It simply implies that the writers hate them. But, I do think that we shouldn’t blame the characters for how they treat other characters.
We should blame the writers.
No, you are to blame for expecting something when the signs say something else, for not accommodating to what the creator wants to do and not you, for expecting to judge RWBY by standards it can’t possibly meet and for ignoring facts just to bash the writers. 
PS: Then why did you make several posts bashing characters and not writers? This whole thing is just an excuse to bash what you want isn’t it?
So, this is me saying it right now: I blame miles and Kerry for how Yang’s PTSD was misrepresented.
No, you are to blame for not comprehending that what you expected out of Yang’s PTSD wasn’t exactly what you got and taking that personally.
They used the lowest common denominator (Giving her only one on-screen nightmare, and only one on-screen panic attack) to ‘represent’ what Yang is dealing with.
That or teh bare bones is all they can manage: not like Maya is expensive or that Rooster Teeth isn’t a major studio or anything.
Her nightmares are never brought up again. Her panic attack is never mentioned after she had it. Those symptoms just… disappear. Never to be seen or heard from again.
As is a lot of stuff in RWBY, even before Volume 4.
Also, Charon’s chairman wasn’t heard from again after Season 8, guess we’ll never see him aga-He’s the main antagonist for Seasons 11 - 13. Well now I feel foolish.
I mean, Armed and Ready pretty much left no doubt that Yang is fully recovered, and I don’t want that yet. I want to see her overcome her fears and trauma. I want to see her confront people who have abandoned her (both physically and emotionally (which means that Tai will also be called out here)). And I just want to see her being allowed to resent the people who basically left her.
And yet when someone points out the fact that Yang has left people and hurt people as well, you get defensive and said she’s allowed to do that stuff. You don’t want Yang to get angry, you want her to get angry on your behalf even if it doesn’t make sense for her.
We also have the problem of the disconnect between the writers, and the actors
*Narrows eyes* You asshole, you better not!
- This means that if they have any objections to what is being said and/or done, they don’t have any say in it. They can’t object because, they’ve already written it, and have likely already animated it.
Ad libbing or on teh spot editing, such as the Maidens.
And you can’t animate something before doing voice work: It never works. That’s just stupid and shows how little you know about Rt’s production.
Like I said before, only jaune gets that kind of interaction with the writers. If (for example) Kerry were to write a scene that makes jaune look OoC, miles would object to it. But if they were to do the same with Sun, then Michael has no time to object because they’ve already written it.
Or maybe the OOC moment was used to make the character look vunerable or emphasize an emotion, like Blake Slapping Sun like Arryn said. But she was forced into that by Miles right? Not like you have used it to defend yourself from criticism, thus showing you only want stuff to apply to others, not you.
If an actor/actress has a problem with how something is done, they would object to it, and the writer would adjust accordingly. But the RWBY actors/actresses don’t get that kind of treatment. Because miles, Kerry, and Grey are too arrogant about their writing abilities.
Or you have a massive hate goner for the writers as well as a bias against males so you inject flaws into stuff to bitch about. Considering Miles has publicly put himself down numerous times, the latter is probably correct.
People would give them less heat if they were to get a woman to help them write. Or perhaps even a Black person, so they could write the White Fang better.
@tumblezwei @ula-star and @rainbowloliofjustice are all females and they have no problem with the writing if female characters.
Liekwise, @rainbowloliofjustice and @mageknight14 are members of racial minorities and they find nothing offensive with the White Fang.
Meanwhile, you a White male is being offended. Says a lot.
Huh. Maybe that’s why everyone hates the male characters so much. There’s only one gender writing the show into the ground.
The uh higher ratings, better reviews, more positive feedback and actual women disagreeing with you says otherwise.
Between how jaune kept harassing Weiss in Volume 2, and how Pyrrha was only written in to basically be a martyr and jaune’s love interest, there seems to be a disconnect between how the show was marketed (Being a show that focuses on four independent female characters who kick some ass) and what we have been presented with (Jaune & RWBY)
If Jaune harrassed Weiss then Pyrrha harrassed Jaune so that argument is mute.
Hey uh Dudeblade, Kamina from tengen toppa Gurren Lagann’s on the phone. He said that all mentor characters are like that and that he got less character development than Pyrrha. He also said that he was based off a woman, is replaced by a woman and is succedded by a woman so sexism is mute here too,
Jaune and his 5:52 minutes of screentime and Yang’s 16:32 minutes.
Now, I am a straight male myself, so I don’t know what they’re going through exactly.
And yet you will claim to speak for them here. Meanwhile, the three bisexuals I work with have made a post detailing why 90% of what you are about to say is bullshit. (https://team-crtq.tumblr.com/post/160160464449/rwby-and-ships)
Even I have more of a right to be offended since I’m some weird demi-heterosexual hybrid.
So… Anyone want to defend RT on how they made Weiss the “Morally Grey” character despite her being a blatant racist?
@mageknight14 and @rainbowloliofjustice , two African Americans, will as will I since Weiss had very good reason to think that way seeing as the only Fanaus she ever knew where the terrorists going around making her life hell. 
Seriously. Weiss being a racist is not a morally grey thing. The Schnee Dust Company using unfair faunus labor is not a “Morally Grey“ area.
And once again, you miss the point of teh character. Weiss dDOESN’T approve of this and she doesn’t like ebing associated with that because she disagrees with it. The only thing black and white here is your morality,
The writer’s attempts to actually write racism was pretty much racist. The only benefit I’m giving them is that they’re too incompetent to actually write it in the first place. - That’s it.
Considering the fact that you made an innocent implication that every single Fanaus was a member of the White Fang and thought like the White Fang, you are not one to talk.
Yeah, I have a bias towards the female characters, but the show was advertised as one that would be about four kickass female characters fighting monsters, and having an adventure.
And that excuses your bias how exactly? All this tells me that no matter what you say, you will always demand that the females get special treatment and shaft the males.
So why are they constantly getting the shaft?
Volume 4 was the first time that the collective male lines were larger than the first, and it was the second time that jaune had a spot in the top 3.
Okay, let’s modify the line post shall we?
Take away 75% of Jaune’s lines and give them to Ruby because tehy were all spent developing Ruby and making Ruby look better.
Erase Sun and Taiyang entirely and give their lines to Blake and Yang
Erase Ghira’s lines outside of the White Fang alone (no Blake) and he’ll have three or four.
Form where I am standing, the only male character who isn’t being used as a tool to build up a female character is Qrow and Iroonwood....Two males. Women aren’t getting the shaft and the previously mentioned ladies agree with me.
didn’t sign in to watch jaune talk to Ruby, I signed on to see Ruby get development.
Those two things go hand in hand: Most of Jaune’s talking is to develop Ruby. You got what you wnated, it just wasn’t exactly what you wanted so you’re bitching.
The girls shouldn’t need a male character to express for them. They should be strong, independent women.
Even if it’s in character for them? Like say, the character refuses to process things themselves so another character has to help them out. You essentially want the sexes to be completely separate from each other. 
Or you want them to essentially be islands of people. ... You know, they use to tell me that too. It’s now called Toxic Masculinity. Guess Men and Women are completely and totally different huh? (Sarcasm)
But if you absolutely need to have a male character help out one of the leading female characters, Blake could have had that lesson that Sun gave her given to her from her father, and there would be no problem. - Mostly because Ghira didn’t abandon his team.
Except Ghira doesn’t know what Blake is doing, doesn’t know the circumstances and isn’t one of ehr friends so the sentiment is meaningless.
Also: Ghira abandoned the White Fang by your logic and let them become terrorists by your thought process so it still doesn’t work.
I was only annoyed by Sun in Volume 4. But Sun wandered into hate territory for me when Blake was about to open up to her father about what happened. It wasn’t even a good joke. It was the media equivalent to showing a starving man a sandwich, then throwing it out. It was just cruel. Who asked for that to happen? - Which fan actively wanted that to happen?
And who said she was going to open up so easily considering teh fact she had been running away each time? Who is to say that Ghira would have gotten through huh?
Also: I guess you wanted Illa to film the Belladonnas, go to Adam and have Adam come in and kill everyone jsut so you can shove Sun out of a scene huh?
Now, you may be wondering why I dislike the writers so much.
Because they aren’t catering to your every whim and they aren’t doing what you want exactly.
Well, it’s because they’re shit at taking criticism. But, also because their cultish defenders are constantly making excuses for them.
The only cult i see is the one that suicide baits people,manipulates the facts, sets unrealistic standards, attacks anyone who criticizes them and thinks they’re radical ideals are always right,
If these guys want to be considered a “Professional production company,” then they should also have to take the criticisms that come along with it.
That’s like judging a newly created video game studio to the standards set by Nintendo: You ask a much smaller,much elss experienced company to meet standards created by decades of experience. I don’t judge RWBY as I would Kill La Kill: Studio Trigger have far more advantages. I judge RWBY as I would TFS, even harsher considering RWBY is an original IP: As a well known, respectable but ultimately small project. And if things don’t go my way: tough, that's who art works. And I’ll enjoy it regardless instead of drowning in my own bile.
If they’re an “Ammeter production company,” then they should need all the help that they can ge
But you’re noyt helping: You just want things to go your way so you try to bully people using mob mentality and big buzz words and use people’s prejuice against them. You are just being petty and hateful.
Point being, is that while I’m not going to pretend that the entirety of the rwde tag is constructive, criticism is criticism. Doesn’t matter how it’s put.
Okay then, i guess it’s perfectly right for me to say:
“You’re a piece of shit and everything you do is shit now either do exactly as I say or else”(Don’t actually endorse this)
I guess from now on I’ll keep you to the same standard I do RWBY...or you could push it and I’ll expect Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann levels of writing.
I can prove it, too. There was once a guy named Semmelweis. This guy was one of the leading pioneers in sanitation techniques. Even before Louie Pasteur. But, you may be thinking, “Why haven’t I heard of this guy before?”
- Because he was a dick. He was still right, but he was a dick who was rude to others.
And if Semmelweis was just trying to make people do as he told without any regard for what was right, only what HE thought was right then he deserved to be forgotten and he deserved to be wrong and ignored because he was just bending people to his will, just like you do.
Rwde tag is Semmelweis, or at least, some of it is. Rwde may be dicks, but rwde tag still has a point.
Said point is to terrorize, bully and manipulate people to get what they want through logical fallacies, mob mentality and slander.
Fuck the people who think that the rwde tag is full of hate.
The people in the rwde tag are just sick and tired of the mistakes that the writers could easily avoid by having more writers, or having an editor who isn’t afraid and is willing to be rough with them.
And yet you yourself will brush off any criticism towards you as blind devoution or blind hate or whatever, thus showing taht you just want things to go your way.
Well then, things are gonna go your way. *A sleek, metallic humanoid robot appears behind him, gear-like eyes glowing meancingly* Consider me your editor.
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In Response To Sokumotanaka
https://sokumotanaka.tumblr.com/post/157031362364/why-should-rooster-teeth-obey-you
http://knightofbalance-13.tumblr.com/post/157015887655/why-should-rooster-teeth-obey-you (Use this link to read everything up to his latest response then look at the above link to see said response)
You know, calling yourself a critic and then blocking out criticism is just reinforcing my hypocrisy point... Again.
“ I thought you said you didn’t read any of the extended? Cause if you did all statement you made were answered in the same format you use to answer mine, I never seen a person try to reach so hard and yet avoid the truth even harder. “
In my second post to him I said this: “ I don’t even need to read the extended post, I have all I need here. “ I went on to explain why my point was reinforced by showing that my main argument was that if he was going to be so aggresive and disdainful, why should I listen to him? I gave examples from the post I addressed ( “what the guy who can’t even spell it right was thinking.” / “ Tag: “You’re literally a pain in my back” ) and showed him using a post by the OP, @sunder-the-gold ( (http://sunder-the-gold.tumblr.com/post/154437477089/affectionate-criticism-versus-disdainful-criticism) ) why people won’t listen.
But I like to point out the was Post 2 out or now 5, in which the very next post I stated as follows: “ And if you are so confident in it then I shall give you some benefit of doubt and listen… “ in which I go through and respond to each and every one of his points (Doubt me? Go to the links and read. I encourage you to make your own assessment.)
So I obviously read it as I wen through his entire extended post and yet in the response to that he says: “ And using the excuse of “I’m not going to read the extended” is not going to help your case cause in the end YOU asked me to prove myself and provide evidence and sources which I did and yet you refuse to read it cause you’re scared it might disprove you which it will. “ This alongside the above quote shows that he is willfully ignoring my points from here on out as he acts as though I do not listen when I have quoted his responses in full.
“ No one’s enforcing your point, you’re just futhering mine that you’re a hypocrite, a liar, and a coward who won’t even bother to read an extended cause I hurt your feelings, get over it, how bout apologizing to the people you called out on that post and then I’ll take you seriously. “
Noteb how he does not show or explain how I am a hypocrite, a liar or a coward here which means to anyone who just reads the response they will be lost. I already addressed the point he made about me being a coward as follows: “ f you are talking about this (https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/5q12w9/the_rwde_tag_on_tumblr_officially_sucks/) then I should point out that I said an all of five lines about specific people there and simply used you and four others as examples about the low quality of the rwde tag which the post was about. I needed to give names or posts to support my argument or else they had no leg to stand upon, much like your arguments. I named the link you talked about, why couldn’t you?”
this marks the second time I have given this link as a response to his accusations when he should have linked to it in the first place. And note how he says he hurt my feelings. Note that my language has been rather neutral and how I have displayed quite a bit of calmness in my arguments. If my feelings were hurt than I would be more aggressive. That is because my feelings are not hurt and I did not read it because I was enforcing the point of attitude in my argument as I have displayed Sunder’s link numerous times. (http://sunder-the-gold.tumblr.com/post/154437477089/affectionate-criticism-versus-disdainful-criticism) and mentioned attitude numerous times. They are willfully misrepresenting my points to make me seem petty. This is an Ad Homien attack, another thing I have pointed out.
Just as well, as I have said before about the rwde post, i said a total of five lines about those people and he ignored the fact that he has done the same as well: (https://sokumotanaka.tumblr.com/post/157007893344/rwbycriticism-sokumotanaka-i-appreciate-you )
“No one’s on your side, never have never will. “
My friend @mageknight14 has been on my side and Sunder themself have shown support.
“ Just reread my past statement I don’t even have to prove you wrong you do it for me “
Note that I have already deconstructed his past statement and he did nothing to rebuttle me.
In short: This person has ignored my points as you can see for yourself and has digressed to attacking me and ignoring my points. Something a critic  shouldn’t do.
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