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Little Snippets #4
Danny knew he had screwed up and that he was going to be in so much trouble as he flew hurriedly through the streets of Gotham.
"Old man is going to be so pissed...." he muttered as he zigzagged through the buildings. He had just gotten back from a side mission with Clockwork when he learned that one of their villains had gotten their hands on portal technology. Not his parents mind you, no one could read their chicken scratch besides Danny or Jazz. No but Vlad's, who was supposed to be a redeemed man but apparently some of his inventions still managed to get onto the black market.
Danny hat been in the Ghost Zone when they had that found out and the old man pinged him to get back sooner. And oh boy was Danny in for a portal mess when he got back to Gotham. He instantly went out to help the old man. Batman was out on his own and Danny had been trying to give him support when he got tangled up and ended up thrown through a portal.
Yeah, he knew his the old man would give him a good lecture, like the day he had gotten taken under the other mans wing. So now after Danny finally made his way back to Gotham he flew through the streets in search of the old man, it looked like the portal problem had resolved while he was trying to find his way back but still Danny had a weird feeling about Gotham now.
"OLD MAN!" He yelled as he spied Batman on top of a building. Grinning brightly he came to an stop directly in front of the other waving happily. "Sorry it took so long but I am back and in one piece! No injuries! See!"
Danny grinned brightly despite not getting an instant answer or lecture back. Though he paused when he noticed the kid in colourful clothing and others like one with a red face covering helmet, one themed in blue and one in black and red. "Did you get help from others? And I thought you didn't like kid playing hero?"
He tilted his head confused as he studied Batman before his eyes widened. "Hey, since when is your insignia not red...?"
It was in that moment that Danny realized he messed up big time somehow and slipped up as he uttered his next words. "You're not old man Thomas...?"
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The Fandom’s Canon
Good morning, noon, and night, Miraculers! Recently, I’ve come across many different tropes and ideas that the entire fandom (or most of it) believes are true. This is probably due to the hiatus. This post is a partial list of what the fandom has considered canon, even though it hasn’t been confirmed through the show itself nor through the creators. Please note that when “Word of God” is mentioned, it means that Thomas, Jeremy, and other members of Zag Animation have confirmed it, but it hasn’t appeared in the show.
So keep in mind that this post is in no way trying to discredit headcanons, for all of them are good. The only objective here is to differentiate fanon from canon.
Nino takes pictures and video for the Ladyblog.
We do not know if Nino helps Alya with the Ladyblog. We don’t even know if Nino is tech-savvy with source codes, video format, video editing, et cetera. This is entirely fanon.
Akuma attacks happen every few days/weeks.
Canon has confirmed that akuma attacks can happen multiple times a day. Hawk Moth has all the time in the world and he desperately wants the Miraculouses. He has sent out up to three akuma a day, though this is rare. On average, he sends out at least one per day. He sends them out at any time of the day too, as seen in the Christmas Special. (Sources: “Lady Wifi,” “Princess Fragrance,” and “Antibug,” among other episodes.)
Marinette is nervous/not confident in herself/has not faith in her abilities/thinks Chat Noir wouldn’t like her civilian self.
If you are writing a fic before Marinette got Tikki, then this is true. However, ever since September 2 (”Stoneheart Origins Part 2″), this is false. Marinette has confidence in herself and her abilities. Sure, she’s clumsy, but she isn’t nervous, doesn’t lack confidence in herself anymore, and has faith in her abilities as a normal girl.
Marinette doesn’t want to tell Chat Noir who she is.
Tikki is the one who doesn’t want Marinette to tell Chat Noir her identity. Marinette wants to tell him. She says that in “Lady Wifi.” However, Marinette agrees with Tikki’s logic in not telling Chat Noir her identity, whatever that logic may be.
The public doesn’t like Chat Noir as much as Ladybug or the public relegates him to a sidekick role.
No. In “Pixelator,” the public adores him. They cheered him on when he was about to take Pixelator’s camera, which led to his capture. They trust Chat Noir. Moreover, the Copycat episode doesn’t show a single disappointed face when only Chat Noir shows up for the statue inauguration, showing that they’re pretty equal in the public’s eye. However, Manon and Antibug have been shown to make a difference between Ladybug and Chat Noir by respectively not mentioning him and calling him a sidekick.
Marinette has an online store/does commissions.
This has not been confirmed in canon. This has not been mentioned in canon. Marinette wears the clothes she makes, yes, but we have no proof that she sells them.
Gabriel Agreste abuses/doesn’t love his son/wife/family.
Gabriel does not physically abuse anyone in his family. Gabriel loves his family as shown in “Simon Says.” In the webisode “Adrien’s Double Life,” it is mentioned that Mrs. Agreste disappeared and that Gabriel changed when that happened. However, it is not explained the reason and the nature of the disappearance.
Gabriel may neglect Adrien to the care of Nathalie and indirectly emotionally abuse Adrien, but that depends on how you characterize Gabriel. Gabriel cares for Adrien, but he doesn’t know how to handle his emotions about his missing wife (as seen in “A Christmas Special”).
Gabriel forced Adrien to model.
According to the same webisode, “Adrien’s Double Life,” Adrien models sometimes for his father because he believes it can bring him closer to him, and because he thinks it helps Gabriel out. Adrien thinks modelling is fun, but he doesn’t want to pursue a serious career.
Adrien starves because he’s a model.
First, male model diets are far different from female model diets. Male models are encouraged to be huge and buff. Because Adrien is a teen, he doesn’t have to be buff. Second, Adrien can eat whenever he wants; he was given five dishes in Origins Part 1 just because he wanted a snack. Adrien eats at least three square meals a day. He probably eats more than that because of all of his extracurricular activities (basketball and fencing take a lot of calories). Nathalie takes care of Adrien. She doesn’t let him starve.
And lastly, as mentioned in the previous point, Adrien models for fun.
In “Animan,” Alya told/didn’t tell Nino about Marinette’s crush on Adrien.
According to Word of God, we don’t know. The creators do not know what Alya told Nino while in that cage. During the Miraculous Meetup in May of 2017, the four writers said that the cage came up almost every time they met and they couldn’t decide what actually happened there. They took a poll from the audience on who believed Alya told Nino and who didn’t. All but three people in the audience who voted said that Alya told Nino. Thomas took that poll into account as to what would be canon, but as of July, 2017, he has not said what happened in the cage. The true canon should come about with the eventual comic that discusses what happened in the cage.
Adrien thinks Marinette is scared of him/doesn’t like him.
This one is not technically false but would be in more futuristic headcanons.
Adrien and Marinette became friends when he gave her his umbrella. Marinette stuttered and blushed around him at first, but they are much more comfortable around each other as of “Kung Food” and “Gamer.” Marinette doesn’t stutter when he gives her compliments. They can speak with each other without Alya translating what Marinette said, and that shows that their relationship has improved off-screen. Marinette is not a shy girl, just an anxious one. Word of God says the characters do a ton of stuff off-screen that will never be mentioned on-screen.
It might be interesting to note, however, that Adrien actually feels inferior in their friendship (as seen in “Gamer”) because he thinks Marinette is a much more incredible person.
Adrien is oblivious to Chloe’s meanness and hatred.
He sees what she does. He just doesn’t call her out on it or throw her under the bus because she was his first friend. (”Origins Part 1″)
Marinette and Lila are friends.
Lila has never met Marinette. She met Ladybug. We have no idea how the two girls will interact, especially since Marinette does not like liars. Sure, Ladybug apologized to Lila, but Marinette knows Lila’s a liar. We don’t know if Marinette holds grudges, especially when the only source of Marinette’s ire is Chloe. We don’t even know Alya’s reaction to finding out Lila is a liar because there are only a handful of witnesses who saw Volpina as a villain and not a hero.
Master Fu gives up his Miraculous or Turtle!Nino happens.
As far as current canon is concerned (seasons 2-3, possibly 4 and 5), Master Fu isn’t giving up his Miraculous any time soon. Yes, there is going to be a new Miraculous holder that we don’t know about (as in, not Fox or Bee), but we also don’t know what Miraculous that person will have because it’s supposed to be a Miraculous that has yet to been seen in the show.
Gabriel has the Peacock Miraculous.
We don’t know. Thomas tried joking with the fans that it was weird that Plagg didn’t react to it, but the fans replied that Plagg doesn’t care about anything other than Camembert. It is unknown if Thomas was implying the Miraculous was a replica or the real thing.
The akuma butterflies return to Hawk Moth.
Nope. Word of God says they go off in the wild and are free once Ladybug has cleansed them.
Hawk Moth can compel good people to do bad things/people can’t reject Hawk Moth.
Nope. Hawk Moth finds people who are in despair and have practically no hope of anything getting better. Then he compels them to do bad things. He can’t compel a good person to do bad things and people can reject him as long as they’re not akumatized. He can, however, cause akumatized victims pain if they don’t do what he wants them to (as seen in “The Evillustrator” and this thread).
Nino isn’t Moroccan.
Nino is Moroccan. Alya is from Martinique. Nathaniel is German and Jewish. Lila is Italian. Marinette is half Chinese. These kids come from all over the world. That is the intention of the show. The creators take pride in the show representing so many different people, especially people from other places with French history involved.
Ladybug and Chat Noir are known around the world.
Nope. According to “Kung Food,” Ladybug and Chat Noir are hardly known throughout France. It is not known how much of the world knows about Ladybug and Chat Noir, but it is safe to say that their influence does not go outside of Europe. Eventually, it will get to America and China, but those countries currently have other heroes who don’t necessarily have Miraculouses. It’s safe to say that they also aren’t known much throughout history. Mr. Kubdel was in charge of the King Tut exhibit, most likely could read hieroglyphics, and did not even acknowledge that there were ancient superheroes in a papyrus scroll prominently displayed on the wall. Jalil Kubdel definitely reads hieroglyphics and he didn’t notice the ancient Ladybug and Chat Noir until after he was akumatized. There are probably hundreds of more Egyptian Ladybug and Chat Noir artifacts across the world, yet no one has put anything together. (Source: “The Pharaoh”)
Marinette is always late/sleeps in class.
The only times Marinette is late are when Marinette forgets to set her alarm and when she purposefully ignores her alarm several times and her mother telling her about the alarm. Though these have happened, they haven’t been recurrent enough in the show to be called a habit. Akuma attacks also cause Marinette to be canonically late, but those normally happen while she’s in school already and the students have to evacuate the building.
Marinette has never fallen asleep in class. Chloe, Nathaniel, and Ivan, however, have all fallen asleep in class at some point.
There we have it. 20 things the fandom has considered canon even though it’s either unconfirmed or not true. This list is not exhaustive of all the small things the fandom does and it is likely to change as seasons 2 and 3 premier worldwide. We here at the Box are not trying to force your fanfiction writing to be anything less than you want it to be. We’re just trying to provide accuracy where it can be provided. This post is mainly for people who prefer to write in more canon aspects.
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