#Nesta doesn't want worship!

[flowerflamestars]

Haunted holy and divine snippet

“I’ll bring you something,” Azriel murmured. Allow me, let me, my black stained hands were made for such work. He back away first, before standing, wings melting into shadow to allow her space. “You’re safe here. I promise.” An arched brow, her expression a wound long-festered. “What kind of safe, this time? Should I expect to be drowned, or beaten next?” Azriel had been made to kneel to lesser men his whole long life. There was no resemblance to the gesture when he slid to the ground at Nesta Archeron’s feet, Truthteller unsheathed. Pure and right darkness- it hurt, unexpectedly, her surprise. His blade did not bite, mournful. Azriel slowly, gently, wrangled her shocked still hands, until Nesta understood to wreath his grip in her own. Only then did star steel drink deep. “What are you”- She swallowed the sentence when Azriel raised his head. “I made my vows to Rhain. Rhysand inherited them. Yanked like they were leading strings my whole life. No vow is true without blood.” Black climbed through the silver of her eyes, pupils expanding. She could smell him bleeding. Not a monster, not a human, and not a faery either. “You will be safe,” Azriel whispered, drip of blood an echo, “I will keep you safe.” Nesta swallowed. “Why?” It was a question he deserved, though it made the sting no less. She let him meet her gaze. Stare. Morning skies and endless fire, corpse-pale dead and dreaming blue. Azriel told the truth. He would do nothing less, before her. “Because I cannot stand to do anything else.” “Fine,” Nesta exhaled, temper only in form, “Fine.” She pulled on his hands, as though to raise him. Nesta, who’d been a lady once- did those mortal lords render themselves supplicant for her favor? Had she ever accepted even one? “Rise.” She did not let go. Azriel could not stand without being near, so close the shadows hung still, silenced by Nesta’s gaze flickering over him. Her cold, brittle hands, hooked tight on his soul. A vow he had chosen. A vow he would keep. 

[fenrysmoonbeamswife]

Cassian went on a rampage because his mother was forced to do hard labour which caused her death but then he treated Nesta the exact same way in ACOSF. He was punishing her. He treated her like a servant and physically and emotionally exhausted her for the sole purpose of punishment.

Cassian seems to put women into two categories; women who are "good"—good typically meaning they think the sun shines out of his and Rhysand's asses, are generally more docile or pliable—these women deserve his respect and protection. (For example, while characters like Mor and Feyre are strong women, there are instances where we see them back down against Rhysand so they aren't "too" strong that they set off his ego). And then women who are "bad"—generally meaning they don't worship the ground he and Rhysand walk on, are not as docile or pliable—these women deserve to be treated like his mom was. This is definitely not a thing he's conscious of, I would say it doesn't even exist in his subconscious, but it's there and it's very clear in how he acts.

Based on his actions and how he treats women, how he defines "good" women or "bad" women seems to be based on how agreeable and androcentric they are and Nesta doesn't check those boxes so she must be broken/punished. There is evidence all throughout ACOSF that he's not happy with her being who she is, she isn't good enough, until she breaks down and becomes what he wants and quite literally accepts her fate.

He talks a big game about not wanting women to be oppressed, particularly with the Illyrian women, but he actively upholds misogynistic standards and ideals, including the Illyrian women, and participates in misogynistic behaviour and violence against women.

These actions directly correlate to his relationship with Nesta. He consistently shows that he doesn't even like her. He is sexually attracted to her and we see from their very first meeting he sees her as some sort of conquest, prey to be tamed, and his empathy is completely switched off when it comes to her. He shows more romantic affections towards the IC and Feyre than his own mate, who he pursued in the first place against her wishes. For example, he views Mor with love and affection but looks at Nesta with lustful eyes only. When she is emaciated all he thinks about is how hot her boobs are and her tiny waist, he never says he loves her, he is never affectionate or gentle with her, he never makes love to her only uses her body to get off, he didn't even correct her when she spoke about feeling unworthy of him. The one time he looked at her in some sort of loving way was when their bond snapped into place and even that just seems to be about possession and the fact that she has finally broken for him.

[wingsdippedingold]

does sjm know that a healthy friendship includes telling your friend when they do something messed up (as you should!) and not being an enabler?? pretty sure the IC is a cult

She in fact doesn't!

With the way she writes friendships it's pretty clear that she doesn't have many of her own. Like at all. She clearly sucks at navigating social relationships in general, and it shows bigtime with Rhysand and Feyre's lack of diplomacy, which is wild considering she wrote other decent high lords.

Also all her main friendships (the ic) are so weirdly involved in each other's sex lives, who tf fucks other girls in front of their friends? She made the batboys so homosexual but also the straightest men on earth. Also the only bonding they ever really do platonically is sex jokes.

I'm pretty confident the only long term relationship SJM has had is with her husband (which started when she was 19). Her "feministic" views are very pick me and reminiscent of girls who never experienced true female friendship. Now that's not to say m/f friendships aren't just as deep, but SJM has made it clear she hasn't really had those either. The way she wrote Feyre in Cassian (the only actual m/f friendship I can think of) seems more like a "one of the guys" girl's wet dream.

The entirety of Feyre's "found family" is made up of Rhysand's lackeys who would choose him at the drop of a hat.

Even the Valkyrie friendship is questionable considering Emerie blushed at Rhysand, despite him being one of Nesta's biggest adversaries. Any true friends wouldn't give him the time of day, high lord or not.

And you're totally right on the cult part, they all worship their charismatic leader Rhysand because they think he's this magnanimous guy who only wants the best, but he's actually terrible and manipulates everything to maintain his position

[achaotichuman]

I dont understand why you're anti Elain. Like there's nothing 4 u to anti considering we know nothing about her💀

Like all the bitch does Is bake and cook and yall hating over THAT?? damn

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YALL HAVE NO IDEA HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT THIS, I CANNOT BE GRINNING THIS MUCH IN PUBLIC OMGGG

Anywayyyy, so to answer your question anon. You are correct! We know very little about her, we have only seen the shit she does, and we can only make judgements based on her actions with no nuance because we don't have her POV yet.

You also don't strike me as pro Elain anon? You're taking away from her actions quite a bit. She has done plenty of things throughout the series.

What I don't like about her is her has to do with how she treats Nesta. She throws Nesta protecting and helping her, even to the point of neglecting her own self, back in her face and acts as though Nesta never actually cared about Elain herself and was only interested in making her trauma about her. Which is completely incorrect from what we see in ACOWAR and how Nesta protects Elain in ACOMAF.

I actually find Elain's selfishness very intriguing- I made a post about it here is the link.

But the thing about Elain, is SJM cannot write inherently selfish characters and have them work through that. Elain could force Lucien to eat glass and everyone would still worship the ground she walks on.

She doesn't experience consequences, all she has to do is shed a few crocodile tears and people bend over backwards to accommodate her wants.

I don't like characters with no substance, and in my opinion Elain is set up to be Rhysand 2.0

I go into more detail on this in my post.

And in any case I fully believe you, anon, are simply a teenager with too much time on their hands.

If you need a job to occupy your time, I recommend applying for a pharmacy assistant position, that was my first job. They're always happy to accept juniors, at least where I live.

And if you are somehow an adult sending these messages, I sincerely insist you get out of the house. Go out with some friends, have a few drinks, remember there are still some good things in the world. And if you can't afford that, parks are always free, and a good walk clears the mind of hate.

[nikethestatue]

Gwynriels/Gwyn fans love to list all these reasons they ship gwynriel or love gwyn. They are so exessive in their shipping/worshipping that they say shit like this:

"WE LOVE AZRIEL TO BITS, BUT GWYN IS OUR RELIGION .... HAVE NO DOUBTS THERE !!!!"

🤢🤢🤢

But if they're honest with themselves, they know their reasons for preferring gwyn over Elain is incredibly shallow, they know they are this huge gwyn fan because of teal eyes, coppery hair, freckles. They don't even try to be subtle about it. In every conversation or indirect posts and comments they tell elriels how plain looking Elain is with her brown hair, brown eyes, "smaller boobs than Nesta's" etc. etc. And constantly try to prove that gwyn is prettier than Elain, has bigger boobs than Elain. But when we say that they ship gwynriel because of looks they think we are threatened by "hOw poPular sHe iS". They refuse to acknowledge the part in acosf where gwyn's activities and words were clearly suspicious. If SJM's plan for gwyn is to reveal that she has ulterior motives then it's great for the next book that gwyn is popular.

Right....

Notice how Elain doesn't need to be compared to anyone. We don't compare her to Mor. Or Vassa. Or Gwyn. Or her sisters.

The size of Elain's titties isn't a flex. Her brown eyes isn't a flex.

If Gwyn is their 'religion' they wouldn't be trawling through TOG and CC looking for 'mate bond language'. Desperately trying to mate her to Azriel.

If she was their religion her needs and thoughts and desires would be front and center for them.

I am an Elriel because Elain wants Azriel. She was written as wanting this specific man. But if SJM wrote her with Lucien, I'd probably be an Elucien, despite not liking Lucien's character.

I am here to watch Elain's journey. Despite any man. I know it's a romance, and she'll end up with a partner. But I am curious about her story, what she has to offer, not who she'll end up with.

When GAs remove 'Gwynriel' from the equation, then we'll talk.

[highladyelenna]

It's "people are free to ship whatever" when they are shipping Rhys with his wife's sister cause they are jealous of Feyre and writing fics where he r*pes Nesta, cheats on Feyre with her ""sexier"" sister... Claiming he hates that Nesta doesn't worship him to fuel their hate

But it's suddenly a problem when it's a ship that they don't like??

Sure Jan, your hypocrisy is showing.

it’s okay when they draw fan art of rhys cheating on feyre with NESTA of all people, cause that’s totally his charcater right? he’s definitely not too busy worshipping the ground feyre walks on to even think about any one else.

it’s okay to draw tamlinxrhysandxAMARANTHA because it’s just a joke right?

it’s okay to draw tamlin x NYX because it’s just a joke and people can draw whatever they want right?

people can draw and ship whatever right?

right?

[theladyofbloodshed]

If Elriel happens, do you think Azriel would put Elain above Rhys? We already know Cassian doesn't put Nesta above him, so what are your thoughts about Azriel?

I don't want Elriel to happen as I don't think it would be good for either of them to be together. Nonetheless, Azriel has the capacity to go rogue. He argues against Rhys' orders (chain me to a tree and I'll fly with it on my back - v sexy) and Feyre's orders (which he got told she's your high lady in answer). He's the only one who is vocal about disagreement of orders and Rhys acknowledges in his POV that there's an icy rage in Azriel even after all this time.

Azriel is also the one with attachment issues, so I feel like he'd be very clingy and overbearing with his mate. To me, Azriel is the one most likely to put his mate ahead of Rhys.

Do I think it will happen? No. I do think Rhys will still be worshipped. I also think his mate will end up playing second fiddle to Morrigan, as it was in Nessian's relationship. To Cassian, Mor is his sister who he's fucked but she's so beautiful that she takes his breath away. Azriel has been in love with her for 500 years. I do not want to hear the poetry he spouts about her.

[writingsbychlo]

I wanna talk about an elain headcanon I have

nesta has a very muscular build and always will because of her training. mucle mommy, and cass goes wild for that.

feyre is always gonna have a slender build. she's got strong shoulders and core, especially the way she learsn to use her wings, but she could never wield a sword the way nesta does or climb the stairs at the house of wind. its like how rhys is muscle-y and strong but not in the same way as az and cass.

now, elain. lets talk about elain. elain is thin to begin, very slim, mostly because she's been starving for years and was always seen as weak and lithe, that's what she was supposed to be. just grayson's small, quiet spouse. but now she's got her freedom and her life to be the way she wants it, anything, she can have it.

she has access to food, and not only that, she learns to bake. I think elain would start to put on weight, and fast. she doesn't really work out the way nesta does, she likes to go for a walk and tend to her garden, she exercises and she's healthy, but elain is a plus size girly. and the way her body becomes? she was always meant to be a plus-size girly. her boobs would fill out, her hips get squishy and soft in a way that she loves, her thighs get pudgy. she loves it. she likes the way she looks.

she never liked being able to see a gap between her thighs or her sharp edges in the mirror, it made her feel so vulnerable and exposed, and just reminded her of their poverty and her helplessness.

she likes it so fucking much. she likes baking and eating the things she makes, she likes that cassian and her bond over cooking, because he's got a big appetite too. she likes that she doesn't feel like she's going to break anymore. she likes that she doesn't feel so invisible, that she's seen.

she does it for herself, she loves it. one big fucking bonus, though? is that it drives lucien wild. she'd never been much concerned with how he thought about her at first. she wasn't ready for a mate bond, she was still working on herself. she didn't think about it at first, but one day when feyre says lucien will be coming for dinner, she realises it's been almost a year since he's seen her.

when he walks through the door, he practically falls over himself as he sees her. the opposite of all his usual elegance. she's ready to turn her nose up, to give him an earful about judging her appearance, until cassian is laughing so loud nesta winces and elbows him, teasing lucien with "someone likes his mate's new look. at least try to control your scent, fox-boy."

if elain wore a few more daring necklines and tighter corsets to show it off during his visit, that was nobody's business but hers.

now, lucien makes her feel good every single day about it. whether it be feeding her treats, running his hands over her body and squeezing all his favourite parts, picking her up like she still weighed nothing, or whispering dirty things between the sheets like "so much of you for me to love, you drive me fucking crazy, petal."

I just have this headcanon that given the choice to be whatever she wants, elain is a very happy plus-size girly. she loves never having to question her food or meals, she loves her new body and the happiness it signifies, and she loves the way lucien fucking worships her.

especially in those revealing Day court robes, which hang low on her chest and show off her beautiful thick thighs.

[ae-neon]

Acotar is Maas before she fall in love with Rhys. She created rhys, explore.more and let herself grew detach of Feyre. I can feel her love and wanting Feyre to grow into something else. Her resentment to Fae is very interesting too since maas made her trapped with a fae. An interesting dynamic.

Then she grew attach to rhys. I sense of this because of her pattern with Rowan and Aelin. I read somewhere that originally , it was not Rowaelin endgame. Rowan as just suppose to train aelin and that was that. Then Maas say that she wrote fanfic of Aelin x Rowan turns out well..

I would say Rowan x Aelin is a susccess. Yeah this man is hell to Aelin the beginning. But buttttt Maas dont water down Aelin to have her propaganda "rowan is perfect, rowan is most powerful fae" pushing to the reader you know. Aelin is still stubborn, she keep her plan to herself and refuse to share it with rowan.

It drove rowan mad if I remember them correctly. At least, we can see Aelin taking time and do according to her desire. Not blindly agree with Rowan. Then we have aedion in their family dynamic. Then rowan wanting to have allies, goes to each Whietorn ship and begged them to support Aelin. He said it jn the book, he wanted to support his queen and make her.proud.

And then the famous "where is my wife" scene. Wecan see them both as individual character. Very different character. Aelin is an ass a lot of time, selfish and a pick me. I know, but her character does not change simply for rowan. Water down for rowan. It took another whole book to shift their dynamic from stranger to friends to partner to lover. It feel long and develope to me. Then the scene Aelin share her favourite place in Adarlan, showing Rowan how to play the piano. It was small but sweet moment.

Rowan, slowly taking his time to calm Aelin after the mask and torture by maeve. Offering ring, telling aelin to eat and take break from training. It so diferent you know with Rhys and Feyre.

Feyre from headstrong, stubborn and independent water down to suit Rhys. I feel like she is over sexualized at one point and it feels each of their interactions is solely for sex. Even the reading moment "you look delicious today, feyre." Fuck off rhys. Can you chill and not make everything about sex? Let this girl breathe, read properly and learn about the world will you.

The only moment I like both of them have is when bring Feyre observing map sort of? Even that interaction is cut off. I want more interaction of Rhys sharing with Feyre whathe know. He seem to have this potential 'tutor' vibe. He is old, surely he learn a lot. But all we got is their interaction in the lbrary and attempt of having sex.

Then Maas keep worshipping Rhys and feyre lose all her personality for Rhys to check all he need to be the most powerful male in history. Tf, your wing get hurt ashes and you already dying.

I am not saying rowaelij is 100% but they have something rhys and feyre dont. Independent of their life from being water down by each other. They can stand on their own character because we all know, what is Aelin if not for her stubbornness and being pain in the ass? You just need to say blond, stubborn, confident and an edgy teenager. Everyone knows it is Aelin.

Something feyre already lose back in book 2 for rhys. I no longer recognize this feyre.

Hello anon

I think sjm is really attached to Aelin as a self insert. It's understandable since she developed the character from a young age.

But I don't see why she also has to self insert into Feyre? It's obvious she doesn't care about her.

So why SJM didn't just choose a different sister to carry on the second book. Anyone who knows my blog will know why I think it should have been Nesta but acomaf is supposed to be Hades and Persephone right? So why not Elain?

Acomaf Elain is exactly who post acowar Feyre turns into to suit the position of High Lady.

In acotar, it's possible to think of Feyre outside of her relationship to Tamlin. If you were making a moodboard or aesthetic edit you could include archery and painting, the forest and a wolf etc and all of that would be about Feyre.

If you try to do the same thing for Feyre from acomaf onwards, what comes to mind? It's hard to picture who she is outside of Rhysand's influence because it doesn't exist.

In acotar Feyre's love story is with Tamlin but also as an individual she is developing her relationship with the world around her. Lucien, Alis and, even Prythian itself, is something Feyre must work to understand on her own. As a result she is a different person by the time she goes home. She has matured. She sees that she was wrong about Nesta and she is able to let go of the promise she made to her mother.

In maf and war her relationships with others is dictated by their relationship with Rhysand. She meets people and is almost instantly friends or enemies based on if they are Rhysand's friends or enemies.

Feyre only knows 3 Illyrians: her mate and her friends who are 'brothers' but she hates Illyrians, why? Because Rhys does.

Feyre instantly connects with Tarquin on a really good vibe but still betrays him and almost dies stealing something important to his court. Why? Because Rhysand says so. Feyre could have told Rhys to give her a few more days to earn Tarquin's trust and then asked him to let Amren stay in summer and decipher it so they could nullify the Cauldron and save lives in the war. Tarquin wouldn't have said no. But she can't even think for herself.

At the end of tog, more than half the people who fight in the battle are there for Aelin. Her connection to them has made their appearance special. Aelin also shares the books with other pov characters.

In acotar, during the war, after 3 books of only Feyre as the main character - who shows up to the battle for her? No one.

Her sisters aren't there because they choose to be and Feyre's father doesn't even have a name. Maybe the Suriel is there for Feyre but they immediately die after only 2 or 3 interactions the whole series.

Bryaxis? Doesn't become Feyre's monster pet afterwards. Stryga and the Bone Carver? Useless and dead. And it's not like Feyre has been building friendships with these people.

Friends, enemies, allies - they show up for Rhysand. Even the king of Hybern mostly speaks to him. He is the main character.

Even in the end, I think the only person who helps revive Rhysand just so Feyre is happy, is Tamlin.

[femmefatallexx]

ACOSF Opinion. Possible Spoilers.

I finished the final book today, A Court of Silver Flames. Here were my most notable opinions. (P.S. postpartum is fucking hard. I've missed reading and loving things so much I cried.)

First, Cassian is fucking h.o.t. and Nesta is my goddess. I always thought Rhys was amazing because he just loves with his whole soul, but Cassian doesn't just love. He understands, he fights, he worships. He loves with his everything, despite the darkness that Nesta struggles with, and he *understands* it.

Second, this book changed me. To see someone like Nesta able to start anew despite everything she's gone through and the darkness and the Death (iykyk) inside of her, it was beautiful. And Gwyn and Emery, they hold such special places.

Third, the character of Eris and the dancing scene with Nesta. Eris has always been portrayed as a darkness, an evil man with no soul. This book showed his intention, his soul, and the dance scene with Nesta and Eris broke my heart for him. His darkness and his need to hide his goodness to protect himself is so sad. The way they danced... fuck. I wish someone could dance with my soul like that and watch the world burn with us.

Lastly, Nesta must have some Sexy Fucking Thighs ™️ after climbing down and up 10,000 steps every day like that and I get why Cassian just spends his whole day worshipping her. Sometimes I forget that I'm bi and I just want to worship Nesta for every day forever.

[acourtofthought]

hello! hope you’re having a lovely day! i wanted to ask, how do you think sjm will write gwynriel becoming canon? and if it was up to you, how would you want gwynriel to be written?

Gwynriel is difficult for me to predict because there seems to be a lot of little clues hinting at possible directions for their story to go but not enough major ones for me to go on to say anything with certainty (aside from the fact that I do believe their mates). As far as what I'd like to see based on some of those possible clues, I'd like to see Az's shadows rebel against him because they're tired of Az commanding them to do what he wants rather than him acknowledging that they too have their own desires. I think the shadows have found their own mate in Gwyn's song / breath and because Az is probably going to be clueless to his own bond for a bit, he'll ignore their hints at spending time with her. As a result, I do think they'll abandon him until he begins to treat them as independent of himself, taking time to listen to their needs. As far as Az and Gwyn together, I wish I knew more about Az to get a better feel for the direction SJM might take Gwyn. Is he going to like torturing? Is it something he'll always do? Or does he feel such immense guilt over it and only does it because he feels he has to? If he likes it and feels guilty because he likes it, I think SJM will create a similar feeling of guilt in Gwyn. That she realizes how much she enjoys revenge on her enemies and faces the dilemma of whether she can be that person and a priestess at the same time. But I think both he and Gwyn will work through that together, helping the other to see that they are still good despite having a bit of darkness. If SJM swings things the other way and he walks away from torturing then I feel like Gwyn's personality will be somewhat similar to what it is now and she'll help Az let go of his past and the things he's done, accepting that he's still deserving of good things regardless of what has come before. Some easier things to predict: I think Gwyn will definitely be the one to poke and prod Az to come out of his shell though they still will be the couple who still prefers being alone together to being in large groups. They'll definitely try to one up one another all the time with their competitive natures and I think it'll drive Az mad that Gwyn tends to beat him at everything. I imagine something will happen that gives Gwyn a reason to put Az in his place and express anger towards him for something. I do think she has a bit of, not exactly hero worship but intrigue over Az because of how they first crossed paths and he's now training her so she has respect for him because of that. To me there needs to be something to shift power to Gwyn so that they are on equal footing. I think it would be cool if Gwyn were the one to call Narben from the sea. I'm sorry, I know that wasn't a great answer but Az and Gwyn (while I definitely see how SJM is building similarities between them!) are still a little difficult for me to read because I've only seen Gwyn as Nesta's best friend (meaning we're only going to see certain aspects of her personality) and I'm really not sure who Az is. He's full of rage and anger and he's definitely got obsession issues but I can't tell if that's all because he doesn't know how to break the cycle and the guilt comes from what he's done in his past or if the guilt comes from his constant desire to continue doing it over and over again (in terms of torturing). That he knows it's always going to be who he is and he's been unable to come to terms that he's still worth loving despite it.

[high-queen-feyre]

Ok... This has turned into a joke right?

I was finding ss, so it took time.

1) Using that line to convey that the power wasn't that big cause Helion compared it to a fish losing it's scale when,

Here is the full page:

The HL were talking about how they felt about Feyre's powers and Feyre having their powers since this was the first time they saw it. Helion isn't comparing what he gave to Feyre to a fish's scale, but how he was feeling like a fish losing a scale after he gave it to her. Which would mean mostly unnatural and uncomfortable/painful, cause

a) Most fishes don't naturally lose their scales

b) When scales are taken from a live fish, it's painful to them

So, despite the scale size, it's a pretty big thing, that's what Helion is implying here, that it was a pretty big deal and of course, it would seem little to him cause he still has his own HL powers and didn't give her everything.

Plus, he said "But I still felt whenever something brushed against that empty spot" You saying "wouldn't they have noticed" doesn't work cause Helion clearly noticed. In the very quote you provided.

2) The Tamlin thing

Tamlin thought her training these powers would make Beron and any other High Lord kill her to try to get their power back.

3) I agree, Beron would have let Feyre die than even give a bit of his power to her. Which is why Lucien and Tamlin were worried her showing those powers would put a target on her.

4) The entire PLOT AND POINT of The Book and Breathing was that the Queens and Tarquin had to give the book willingly. They owned it the seven Queens and Summer HL OWNED their halves of the books, otherwise, anyone could have taken it and the elaborate scheming where Rhys had Feyre retrieve his mother's ring to see if objects react to her power was pointless. Amren could hold the book after because it was already given to them. They can do whatever they want AFTER it has been given. This is why Feyre IS Tarquin in regards to power, the book called her Tarquin when she tricked it, to be able to touch it.

5) Feysand scene

"The power is bound to your life" It may have been Rhysand's BEFORE but it's Feyre's NOW. Just like every other power she was given.

6) Lucien and Eris

I would've loved to see Feyre go toe-to-toe with an heir but we didn't get that, we got this,

Why would they react like this, Lucien's face draining of color, Eris being scared, if the Night Court and IC were playing make belief "High Lady"? If she's not the High Lady, couldn't they be able to tell? Why would they freeze like she actually does hold power over them since they are just the High Lord's sons while she is a High Lady?

7) "Prythian would be in shambles" Babe Prythian been in shambles since book 1... Feyre being all-powerful wouldn't do anything to them. Also, Nesta and Elain are mega powerful and all of them are Made so why won't you say Prythian is in shambles after 3 humans being Made into super powerful Fae, why only with Feyre?

8) "It will be a 2 king type of situation" Not if the kings are in love #loveislove #happypride. But seriously, Feysand are working together as a couple so that's not nearly the same situation. And as for other Courts, Feyre has never given an order to them, or stood in a place of authority there. And they worship her as "Cursereaker" as they should cause she freed them all.

Please get off my page :) Thanks

"The land didn't choose Feyre to be High Lady because she didn't feel anything regarding it after Rhysand died and Rhysand instantly became High Lord after his father died."

Like why would it pass to her? She ALREADY was High Lady, so in fact she IS accepted by the magic since the magic didn't pass to Keir or someone but stayed with her. That whole scene of Rhys dying shows she is as true a HIgh Lady as fucking Beron of all people (wife beater, son torturer which I guess doesn't matter, what matters is "FeYrE wAs iLlEtRaTe" so she doesn't deserve it and is not worthy or whatever) is High Lord since she could give Rhys a glow of her power to bring him back.

Also since she remade the Caldron, is easily powerful enough to control it and LITERALLY BEND LIFE from it, she can frankly do whatever the fuck she wants, be whoever she wants :)

[taylors-fourth-cat-meow]

You something else i hate about Acotar?

Its the way family is portrayed.

Weather it be the IC dynamic or the Archeron family dynamic its just so fcking messed up!

Both the families revolve around one person (Rhys and Feyre) and the characters are judged based on how they treat/talk to that person. They are defined and labelled 'good', 'bland' and 'evil' with respect to that one character. Lets look at the IC first then we'll get to the Archeron family.

Mor is a girl boss, and "loves freely". She can tell Nesta, a traumatised child in comparison to her that she deserves to be sent to a torture prison from which she escaped and that can be justified by saying she is "protective over her family".

Now, I personally fcking hate Mor. And i also know that her being queer is a retcon but fck! it says so much about her relationship with her so called family. After 500 years she still doesn't feel comfortable coming out to them? Now thats saying a lot.

In acosf, Amren, Cassian, Mor almost everyone treat Cassian like absolute shit. He is their brother yet Azriel says that Elain should not be out in danger but its perfectly ok to put his brothers mate in danger? Amren totally treats Cassian like some jock whose acting out again cause he wants his dick in some bitch. Mor, don't even get me started on that dipshit. If she supposedly loves freely, she wud actually think about how it must hurt those she cares (feyre and Cassian) about because of the way she treats someone they care about (Nesta). Like the way the entire IC treat Cassian like absolute shit throughout the entire book. Force him to watch as they slut shame his mate, force him to watch as they put her in dangerous situations, force him to watch as she is kidnapped into a dangerous rite that can get her killed, force him to watch as the force her to seduce another man?

AND RHYSAND.

He legit treats Cassian like he is nothing more than his dog. He is a fcking general of the armies yet he treats him like he is a dumb hunk who needs to improve himself to be of any use? what was even the part of making him play courtier? who gave rhysie the right to "test" cassian? This is not the relationship between two brothers who are equals. This is fcking toxic if not downright abusive.

Also with the Azriel bonus chp. Instead of understanding and consoling how his brother, who feels left out (rightly so) and calling him out on his fck boy behaviour towards his sister in law, he just orders him around and pulls out his HL status.

And then with Mor, inviting her abusers into her safe place (Velaris), making deals with her ex-fiance who was the cause of said trauma, ( I highly doubt she's saying the full/true story bout that) that involves Eris to visit frequently. All this without her knowledge. He invalidates her? No wonder she doesn't feel comfortable coming out to them even after 500 years.

Now one could argue that Azriel and Casshole are brothers. And uk what yeah to some extent I wud agree with u. The only brotherly love shown is between those two. And uk why? Because the power dynamic is equal. They are both ostracised bastards. They are both powerfull Illariyans. They both hold High Positions in the NC. But Rhysand on the other hand? He literally pulls out his HL status all the time. He uses his power over his family members. It's doesn't matter that he doesn't like doing that. He still does it.

Mor, Azriel and Cassian all came from fcked up backgrounds but they didn't find love and acceptance among each other. No they found it in Rhysand. Their position, power and family only exists because of Rhysand. Because he deemed them worthy of being his family. And that gives him power over them. Which ultimately makes the whole concept of family fall apart.

I mean thats not the Inncer Circle, its the Rhysand Worship Circle.

[vidalinav]

I would die for scene in your nezriel fic (is it a fic? is it a long snippet?) where Cassian sees a hickey Nesta left on Azriel’s neck and starts questioning him about his new lover and meanwhile Azriel’s inner monologue is just like: well fuck… I bet he’d kill me if he knew…

To fit "canon" and I mean my fics world, Azriel would probably be more envious about Cassian and the mate bond in particular, and petty because he wants to rub it in that she's not his. Also technically, I've pretty much established that the hickeys don't stay for long periods of time, like they immediately heal, which is why Azriel hates that he can't have something permanent on/with Nesta. I suppose because of the last snippet, there's less time for them to disappear since he spent the day with her. But they disappear pretty quickly (I would assume because fae healing) and also I'm assuming that he needs to leave earlier so that he can get rid of her scent.

So... I tweaked it a little (A lot).

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Cassian's smug as he orders another drink and Azriel takes a sip of his water. He wills himself not to pull out Nesta's ribbon, a token he's stolen from her vanity, and wave it in front of his nose. This is who you're missing. This is who you can never have. The scent--her scent--is for his nose only.

It would coat his skin even now, if they knew for a fact the situation wouldn't blow up in their faces. Azriel would never go against Nesta's wishes to keep their relationship a secret even if his own wishes have now changed, and there's too many moving pieces.

In another court, there might be a duel. If their court was crueler, there might be a law that would put Nesta at risk. Whatever keeps Nesta safe, he tells himself.

Secrets are safe...

At least, he's told himself that. Their secrets are safe with him. But are they safe when they keep secrets?

Azriel's begun to wonder that. He's known his brother for centuries. Right now, Cassian orders another drink and swipes at Mor playfully when she pleads for him to come dance with her. He's half drunk already, but are they safe from him?

Azriel's fucking his mate after all.

Still, some part of him wants to pull out the ribbon, he keeps touching in the pocket of his jacket. I'm fucking your mate.

What will he do? What will he say?

Azriel is above such childish things, yes, and frankly it'd be disrespectful to Nesta and their time together. She isn't a stolen toy--a weapon he waves around saying look what you don't have. So Azriel takes a sip and looks to crowded room.

Sevenda's is blooming this evening, and the noise makes his skin itch. In just a few more hours, he'll be with Nesta again. He'll kiss her until she's blushing red, until her lips raise and he'll think he's seen the sun. Something angelic. And he'll worship her with his lips, with his touch, with books... if that's what she likes.

Time is precious now and though he loves their trysts by moonlight, he doesn't want her to think he's only there for the lay. Azriel wants all of her. The way she inhales romances... the odd little routines she has for her hair. She uses several kinds of soap for her bath and he wants to pour it in, to see exactly what makes Nesta smell as sweet as she does.

"You're quiet today," Cassian remarks, laughing under his breath. "Hot date?"

I'm fucking your mate.

"Nothing of the sort."

"You've been gone a lot lately," but it's Amren who speaks this time. She holds the glass of wine and it's the same color as the blood she used to drink. Interrogation, Azriel thinks as he resists rolling his eyes. Not so deadly anymore.

"I've been on assignment," he offers raising a brow. He doesn't look to Rhys, nor does he offer his mind up for chatting. Azriel doesn't care what that prick of a brother will say to him now.

But Feyre catches his gaze and she purses her lips as if she's disappointed by these state of affairs.

Affairs is not a good word to describe Nesta's and his relationship. Nesta is single. He keeps trying to remind them. She's not owned by anyone, least of all him. But the person she wants to spend time with, is him.

Cassian sighs, a deep, torn sound. "Too many things have changed... and not at all."

Mor glowers at that, as Cassian swirls the drink in his hand. Clearly, he's much more drunk than Azriel's realized if he's already getting melancholic.

"You're gone," he says, taking a sip wistfully, "Mor leaves more now. Rhys and Feyre are always fucking... Amren's the same, but I don't want to spend time with her."

"Spend time with the girl then," Amren says, rolling her eyes at Cassian's dramatic antics.

Azriel feels his heart skip in his chest, but he breathes a guilty sigh of relief when Cassian sighs once more. He rubs the ribbon with his thumb willing himself to calm down.

"She doesn't want me."

No, she wants me.

Mor opens her mouth, probably to say something cruel abut Nesta, but Feyre glares up at her friend. It's silent at their little table, and Azriel can feel a stare on him.

He doesn't need to look to the side to know it's Rhys.

See, he probably wants to say, this is who you're messing with. Don't you love Cassian? Your own brother.

But why does Cassian deserve Nesta? Here he is whining over drinks, instead of earning his keep and doing right by his mate. He's here with Mor, letting her pat him on the arm and placate him with worried words, while his mate on the other side of town is stuck in her apartment with four locks on her door, because she's deeply changed from what she's been through.

Don't you love Cassian?

"Do you even love Nesta?"

Azriel straightens at the bitter taste of his words. Cassian, luckily, is too drunk to hear the anger. His head lowers, like puppy who's been kicked. "She doesn't love me," he says.

As if it were that simple.

She loves me, though, Azriel wants to say. There's an ugly part of him that wants Cassian to hate him, to hate Nesta too, if only so they could be free from him--from this guilt. He can see it every time he's there, the hesitancy in Nesta's gaze. That brief admission of her eyes, that it might just be easier to give in to that mate bond and do away with this, because their relationship will never be easy.

It will never be accepted like Cassian's would be. Gifted by the Mother. Blessed and holy.

Maybe that's why her kisses taste like sin. Mother damn him then.

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I hate how Mor acts like everyone's in love with her.

I hate how Mor assumes everyone wants to fuck her.

I hate how Mor expects everyone to just worship at her feet.

I hate how Mor flaunts herself on Cassian, even when he's clearly into Nesta and Nesta is clearly into him.

I hate how Mor can't have a freaking converation with Az and just tell him she doesn't love him.

Maybe Mor should be dumped in the human lands for her behavior.

[nikethestatue]

I literally hate that azriel never acknowledged who killed koh. Like we ship elriel but he hero worships Nesta . I really don't want an elriel book where elain is a background character in her own book whilst we get excessive Nesta and Az bonding scenes where Nesta is again the hero and elain does nothing

Also I think Nesta is pathetic to not mention to her glee bestie that elain , her sister, actually killed koh . Glee also knows who's knife was used. But elain gets 0 credit

She wouldn't have a mate if elain didnt step up.

I dont like it either, but i think it will happen.

With Gwyn, I think the bigger question that always bothered me was HOW did she know that Nesta 'killed' the king AND how did she know that it was done with 'the shadowsinger's knife'. And how she always calls him 'shadowsinger'. Like he is this separate entity to her which she seems to be rather interested in.

That aside--I don't think Azriel hero worships Nesta actually. I think of EVERYONE he has the most realistic and the most unbothered approach to her. Like he puts her in her place again and again and again. He doesn't tiptoe around her, but he also doesnt flip his lid at her. I think he gives her credit where credit is due. Him not acknowledging Elain (yet) I think was done on purpose.

But we'll see. I dont know what SJM will cook up.