#Monster Ody
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have Odysseus become an actual monster. It’s another way Greek Monsters are made. Humans lose their humanity and slowly become actual monsters.
Their teeth might sharp more and more, everyday.
Maybe how the speak has this enchanting (encompassingly off) tone to it, one day.
Their eyes are eerily blank, and their sclera & iris are getting closer in color every day…
They start walking on what seem like their tip toes, but they don’t seem to notice;
The way they walk gets more predatory; Leaning forward, shoulders first and with a slight glare that isn’t in their eyes but definitely in their body.
Imagine; that’s how (for a random example) Sirens (the birds) spawned off from a woman being hurt one to many times, trapped somewhere, neglected or unwanted, so she flew away free with an enchanting voice. For there, other sirens where born ‘naturally’, from others like her (rare), in nature as a monster (most common) or spawned of from them.
For the sake of, I guess it doesn’t always happen, or more likely those who lose themselves like this usually don’t live long enough for a full transformation.
I guess not transforming halfway and finding one’s humanity again could be plausible, but would entirely be verrrrrry hard work. I think one work around* would be centering your moral and humanity on others: This would be (if he does get out of it) how Ody gets out of a full permanent transformation, Penelope (& Diomedes, in my hc) are his moral compass & heart. *this would require a lot of devotion, I suppose. So perfect for PenOdy & Diody, really
Ody gets snake fangs, sharper nails/claws & wolfish ears at minimum, ig. By the time he's off Ogygia, he probably has siren-adjacent voice-powers. Not as potent or completely-hypnotizing as their singing, just verrrry persuasive. Like. Extra Charisma points. Not that he knows, considering he's been living & interecting with gods for the past seven years and then next few days, so.
#idk#gods I think I just love monsters/inhumanity in people that Should be Human#huh.#that should get a smaller name >:/#anyway#should I tag Ithacan Naga in this?#nahhhh#uhm#just for now:#Monster Ody#additional thing; Godly-influences in monster form are very minimal#since it’s literally Man Made Monster#> snake fangs for obvious reasons#cunning trickery and silver-snake tongued Ody for ya#Oh Right and snake like tongue too#Wolf ears cause wolf Pack and wanting to get home and the ‘wolf pack swimming with the sharks now’ HIS WOLF PACK IS DEAD.#(and Autolycus ref cause I love the wolf theming for aforementioned inhumanity reasons)#claws are more snake/wolf features#odysseus#epic the musical#monster epic#epic monster#greek mythology
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Also not fucking Poseidon being like "you cant kill me" and oDY GOING "EXACTLY" LIKE SIR??? SIR
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Telemachus: I wanna be legendary!
Odysseus, whose soul feels like it has aged 200 years in the past 20: No son, you really don't.
#epic the musical#odysseus#telemachus#Ody knows what it means to be legendary and he would not recommend it#stay away from monsters and the gods' whims buddy
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chimera odysseus!!!!
#i have no idea what story i will give him yet#i just liked the idea of this design#this is actually one of my og ideas for monster ody before i went with fishysseus#but in this poseidon and athena were playing a bit of a tug o war#tagamemnon#the odyssey#odysseus#tagzpite art
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forgot to post this but since this year's college results are out and over and done with i think i can finally post this piece i did for my final first year project ... done entirely in ms paint with the airbrush tool with only some color correction done afterward in csp
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I recently saw the Community episode this meme is from and this is all I could think of
#this is all of us right#“oh no why didn't anyone tell me Ody was actually serious about being a monster”#he killed a baby in the first ten minutes#we knew he was a monster#I'm calling myself out with this#(I thought the monster song was just being angsty and not a fundamental mindset change he can never fully recover from)#epic the thunder saga#epic the musical#the thunder saga#epic the musical spoilers#epic: the musical#monster rawr rawr rawr#epic odysseus#meme#memes#(this is the first meme I've ever made :D)
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Ody in Monster:
Ody in Suffering, one song after Monster:
#epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#epic the underworld saga#siren!penelope#suffering#monster#epic#odysseus#ody be having 10/10 acting 🎭
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I love how Poseidon’s lesson about ruthlessness turned from something he was imposing to something he was trapped in.
When Odysseus says, “we’re both suffering, why not leave this here?” he doesn’t say “I won’t,” he says “I can’t.”
I wish in six hundred strike Ody would have used the line “the next time that you dare choose not to spare” or any callback to “remember them” because it would have been such a good loop. Such a good way to say to Poseidon that there could have been another way. But instead, he’s stuck here of his own doing, with this monster of his own making, being tortured over and over again. Because ruthlessness isn’t mercy. It’s damnation.
#maybe showing one act of kindness#leads to kinder souls down the road#ody only had to be a monster bc everyone around him was#thats what makes a tragedy tragic#it didn’t have to be this way!!#(im sure the circe callbacks are obvious in my analysis here)#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#the odyssey#odysseus#poseidon
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lowkey think that if jorge really wanted to sell us on the "odysseus is a monster thing" he should have had odysseus continue to stab poseidon even after he begged. bc like. Looking at odysseus now? he's less a monster and more like a morally grey protagonist. All of his questionable actions have pretty good explanations behind them. if you want to tell me he's a MONSTER, you need him to do something really fucking vile. without good justification. killing the baby? (also. he fought in a war. i reckon plenty of babies died indirectly as a result of his actions somehow) zeus literally told him he and his family would die otherwise. blinding the cyclops? pretty self-explanatory. sacrificing the men to scylla? bad, but has an understandable reason behind it and you can theoretically justify it. choosing the crew to die? saving his own life+you could argue they are the ones at fault for eating the cows anyway. torturing poseidon? there's literally no other way poseidon would let him go at that point AND he immediately stops after he begs.
point is, if you're going to tell me a character is a monster then at least make them do something that cannot be defended. something that CANNOT be justified at all. continuing to stab poseidon after being begged would have done that. but who knows, maybe the suitors being killed will be shown as something like that? still unlikely though considering they plot to kill telemachus and rape penelope.
#and like. i KNOW people will say killing the crew was not justifiable at all#and true! if this was irl theres no way id defend him doing that#but in fiction the morals of killing are a lot more wishy washy and it's easier to forgive or justify it#because its fiction and we naturally don't feel the same we would if someone was actually dying#which is why if you truly want to sell a character being a 'monster' you need to have#a kick the puppy moment? i cant think of a name rn#but essentially a moment where the character does something that is unnecessarily cruel and evil and excessive+cannot be justified#ody doesnt rlly have that imo?#anyway dont rip me to shreds please#odysseus#epic the musical#meta
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live up your life as a wraith
half assed render of a line from Scylla that I kept imagining with naga Ody (as a proper monster, I mean. Like. Basically Ody as Scylla) that would nooooot get outta my head
idk how to draw boats :,)
also close up of Ody's face cause I like how i did the expression.
additional hc: Ody's iris are realllly light, being grey from Athena's blessing. They're basically 1.5 shades darker than the whites of his eyes, and only distinguishable in harsher/colored lighting, and the slight hazel glint of Hermes' bloodline. In contrast, Ctimene's iris are realllllly dark, near pure black (like dried blood, per being Ares' favoured). Both their eyes are quite piercing when directed at someone, especially with eye contact. Ctimene looks particularly threatening & serious, Odysseus looks quite unsettling.
#ithacan naga au#sorta. tbh this would be more au of an au?? or swap???? where I guess Ody would be in Scylla's place as a proper Monster and therefore a#winged naga and all that but whatever Point is he's being murderous and having fun during it#anyway#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#epic odysseus#epic the musical#i guess#tbh I also have another idea with Monster-sized Ody finding Dio in the seas#and scaring the fuck outta him#but yeah#ari's art#my art#hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh#my computer is overheating ;.)#uhm i thnk that's everything#let's hope#LIVE UP YOUR LIFE AS A WRAITH#DIE IN THE BLOOD WHERE YOU BATHE#WE MUST DO WHAT IT TAKES TO SURVIVEEEEEEEEEEE#Ari’s art
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I feel like a lot of this might have gone differently if maybe
Just MAYBE
THEY APOLOGIZED TO EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF TAKIN THEIR PAIN OUT ON EACH OTHER
Someone call Hades, I need to borrow Polites for a therapy session. Or twenty.
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#poseidon#odysseus#ody: doesn’t apologize#poseidon: drowns most of his men#poseidon: doesn’t apologize#ody: monster mode activated
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Eurylochus: but nothing could prepare us for the power that awaited inside Odysseus: what did this palace hide? Eurylochus: *sweats* Odysseus: Eurylochus: Eurylochus: *inhales* sir—
#SINCE WE LEFT HOME WE FACED A VARIETY OF FOES FROM A WIDE RANGE OF PLACES#GODS#MONSTERS#YOU KNOW THE ROSTER#anyway#eurylochus was definitely stalling to give Ody his answer bc he knew it would sound embarrassing ‘a woman.’ ‘what?’ ‘listen she’s scary 🥺’#epic the musical#epic the circe saga
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I would like to say that I will NOT be taking any Eurylochus slander
#like yeah i get it ody loves his family#and dont get me wrong I support Odysseus right and wrongs#but also eurylochus is NOT the monster everyone’s trying to make him out to be#‘but he opened the bag and set Poseidon after them’ SOMEONE WAS GOING TO OPEN IT#maybe him or someone else but someone would have#that’s the whole thing with how the gods play#some tasks are doable some are not#the crew needed closure#the only way to get that was to open it#and Poseidon would have caught them anyways#they would have all died#eurylochus had nothing to do with Poseidon if anything that’s on Odysseus for doxxing himself#‘oh lol he was all too willing to let his men die with circe’#SHE WAS A GODDESS. OR LIKE A GODDESS. WHATEVER#BUT HE’S NOT#HE WANTS TO GO HOME TOO.#Odysseus was the one to show him there were other ways but even that didn’t work#like with the cyclops#and the whole thing of people calling him hypocritical that he was mad at Odysseus for sacrificing their friends#it’s because up until that moment Odysseus was trying to get them ALL home#and eurylochus saw that#he saw his captain fighting for them all#he trusted him#and then all of a sudden he sees his brother throwing away the lives of their men without care#of COURSE HE DOESN’T TRUST HIM ANYMORE#epic the musical#jorge rivera herrans#odysseus#eurylochus#the thunder saga
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this line by antinous compared with the fact that although odysseus has done everything right (gone to war, kept his men safe, won) he still doesn't get to go home for years on end? this line compared to 'the line between naïveté and hopefulness is almost invisible'?? yeah I'm like okay and feel normal about this overall (lie)
#also like. the way this applies to most of the monsters ody encounters#circe (letting that One ship come onboard and getting violated)#polyphemus (avenging his best friends' deaths)#sirens (eating the only food they can the only way they know how to)#👍. normal.#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#the wisdom saga#wisdom saga spoilers#distant screaming screams into the void
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more stuff i'm discovering i never posted here that i think deserves some spotlight... i used to be obsessed with elfilis like a year ago or so after forgotten land came out and at some point for whateve reason i was suddenly inspired to make a design fusion between it and ruiner nergigante and these were the result
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i just realised Odysseus did the Siren equivalent of Shark finning
can someone kill him please?
#epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#odysseus#the sirens#okay seriously Ody this is the last straw#how dare you continue to ratify the shark mass extinction epidemic except with sirens#you monster#rawr rawr rawr#shame on you
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