#Moffat era and all
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I think people tend to mistake it for when 10 says something very similar to Donna once
I don’t recall very well since I only watched 10’s era once, so if any 10 fans or someone can confirm that would be great, but I THINK I remember 10 saying casually to Donna that “well I’m 900 years old and I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone unimportant”
Or it could have been a one off character, but I do feel like it was Donna since that was her central flaw (feeling unimportant) and I have this memory of 10 just casually saying that as he sits himself down
Am I going crazy XD I do know that this specific line is from 11, one of my favourite moments of him, but I’m sure the reason people mix it up with something 10 says is because 10 does say something similar
Kinda hilarious just how many people don't know which Doctor said this line or who wrote it
#doctor who#halp please#I prefer 11’s line#ofc#Moffat era and all#but this is gonna bug the hell out of me#star reblogs
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they start you off with "she's a doctor mirror because she's a genius and self-centered and arrogant and flirts with everyone and maintains a shield of whimsy against the horrors." and then they smack you over the head with "she's a doctor mirror because she's actively trapped herself in a fantasy where she's the fun flirty whimsical genius hero and everything's fine, rather than face the psyche-obliterating truth of what she's lost and what she's become"
#very 15 relevant of course#and im just generally enjoying the moffat era 'the doctor is in a significant sense more Undead than immortal & so are all his mirrors'#doctor who#asylum of the daleks
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Doctor Who is a story where humans make themselves gods, become myths staining the tapestries of the universe, and the last member of a race of gods is made human, cowardly and vulnerable and kind in a way no other god would dare make themselves and this is the very thing that allows the god-made-human to survive and even win at the end of the day (and the very thing that often dooms the humans-made-gods)
#listen this is a line that came to me on the airplane#and I'm gonna try to find a way to incorporate it into one of the fics in this series#the original version starts with “This is a story” instead of “Doctor who is a story” but it honestly fits the show as a whole#like bad wolf#the woman who walked the earth#the most important woman in all of creation#amy bringing back the doctor in the pandorica#even the impossible girl (though I'm still not a fan of how the show executed it)#the one thing I have to give the moffat era is how it leaned into one of my favorite vibes in that it felt like sci-fi told as fairytale#(that does come with its sexist drawbacks but when it hits it HITS)#rose tyler#martha jones#donna noble#amy pond#clara oswald#ninth doctor#tenth doctor#eleventh doctor#twelfth doctor#bro when the Doctor was bridal carried by Bill#or had his memories erased by clara#whenever you can overlay sisyphus or orpheus or prometheus over both companions and doctor...good shit#bill potts#thirteenth doctor#we get less of this with thirteen#tho in late flux/2022 specials yaz does get to come closer and closer to godly/Time Lord like when she learns how to pilot TARDIS/lead#i just wish the show DID SOMETHING with it#gave her an epic finale moment like other companions got#yazmin khan#like even some of the other companions
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I think my favourite thing about 12 being so quickly established as Scottish in his first episode is that you later find out he knows perfectly well he's not actually Scottish in the typical ways, because, of course, he's still a Gallifreyan with a bad temper ("I'm not Scottish, I'm just cross"). But his era has a running theme of identity being something you choose and describe for yourself - especially names and genders (that quote about timelords being "billions of years beyond your petty human obsession with gender and its associated stereotypes" has aged like the finest of wines). So we can safely assume that 12 discovered he'd regenerated into a body with a Scottish accent, grey hair and attack eyebrows and just decided, so help him, he was going to commit to that fucking bit. At least for a while. And that is the most stubbornly Scottish thing of all.
#moffat never missed a trick is all I'm saying#and he knew how to write good scottish characters#doctor who#peter capaldi#twelfth doctor#moffat era#scottish
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people are soooo mad about the new sonic screwdriver not having an element of thirteen's sonic and saying thirteen era is going to be erased or whatever as if thirteen ever mentioned anything that happened in twelve era despite having literally just lost like all her friends...
#lifeblogs#doctor who#i also feel like there might be. narrative reasons. to have all the other new who doctors#but also i think part of it is that her sonic's aesthetic is so different from the others it's hard to integrate#which goes into a whole other conversation about her aesthetic more generally but that's not what this is about#also like moffat era doesn't mention rtd era that much either#it's different because it's an anniversary but like. we have not seen the episode yet. we do not know what will happen
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i saw a post saying boom was good bc it feels like it could be done with any doctor/companion duo and honestly that was one of the things i felt was wrong with it
#in a show with a title character that could be Literally Anyone and a companion sharing the lead that could be Literally Anyone#i value the little moments that set this duo apart from the rest. ESPECIALLY when it comes to returning writers like rtd/moff#fifteen and ruby felt a little too eleven/twelve and clara adjacent in boom. in both their dialogue and characterization#space babies also landed a little weird at first bc it lifted a bit from end of the world BUT the scenes that fifteen and ruby#had to themselves. like ruby getting covered in snot and fifteen laughing. or fifteen and ruby looking after the Space Babies#or fifteen going out of his way to save the monster bc that monster is the only one of its kind Just Like Him Fr#that stuff is so good and its also something we haven't seen from another nuwho doctor. the vulnerable bleeding-heart empathy#and a dynamic w a companion that is basically 'two troublemakers that just deeply love fun and adventure and getting into trouble together'#oh yeah and also the devil's chord was peak fiction because it touches on fifteen's renewed connection and love for humanity#and marries it to ruby being a musician and how music like any art is the expression of the human soul etc etc#WHAT MAKES A DOCTOR WHO STORY GOOD TO ME IS PARTLY HOW THE PREMISE TIES INTO THE DOCTOR AND COMPANION'S CHARACTERS#IT HAS TO FEEL LIKE IT WAS TAILOR MADE TO THEM. ELSE IT WONT LAND RIGHT TO ME#i hate the take that they should've saved wild blue yonder for a fifteen episode bc#the tension is hinged on how well the doctor/companion know each other. u have a level of it that u can ONLY get#with fourteen and donna who are two halves of a whole soul but have also spent much more time missing the other than knowing them#im not rewatching fifteen's eps rn until a week later when i can watch it w my qpp but#rn i still feel a stronger sense of fifteen and ruby's characters from all the rtd-written eps rather moffat#which like. i get that a lot of that is my personal dislike of moffat's writing style but still#dr who#15 era#dw spoilers
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absolutely hate it when something stupid and negative somebody wrote on one of my positive fandom posts gets stuck in my head but like, i truly wish i'd asked the rando person who said they just Couldn't keep watching 13's era because of the constant put downs of men if they'd legitimately gotten her era and moffat era dw confused (which does, quite frankly, have a ~girls rule boys smell~ lean to it uncomfortably often) because that is simply preferable to the alternative that they meant it and genuinely think that men Not being front and centre is an affront to men and that they couldn't deal with it. But I blocked them bc Be Real. But I regret not asking even though I strongly suspect that the answer would have given me a headache.
#dw shit#moffat's era specialised in casually offensive to the point that#there are far easier repeated offenders to clock than the quantity of in general#derogatory comments aimed at men to prop up women for??? no reason??#other than what I assume was the writer's room's of understanding feminism.#(so Not feminism at all but i digress)#but damn if you pay attention it's so casually digging at men so often#which then disappears when 13 rolls around#except for One single instance which Coincidentally was a Missy reference in an ep#literally 30 minutes before the master shows up again#(as in#13's got the upgrade to woman line. that was cribbed from missy.)#and is very obviously a win wink nudge nudge#but.. 13's era... is shit to men???#so much to dig into there#none of it good
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You're so right about Steven Moffat. Favorite Doctor Who era, for sure!
Thank you, it is something I completely stand by! Glad to speak for others! This fuckass website just doesn’t get it sometimes.
#not Derry girls#Steven Moffat#Doctor who#Moffat Era is my favorite era but more than that Moffat understands the Doctor#and the Companions#better than both Chibnall and Rusty (I’ve grown soft on RTD in my old age but still)#and that’s not to say neither did anything of value but for my money#if you put them on a scale#you’d have to put RTD and Chibnall together to even sort of tip the scale toward equal#and Moffat would still be a heavyweight on quality#and I’m going further to say Moffat is actively feminist#he’s just also a straight white man who’s had to grow and change with the times#and has misstepped and been a part of a culture that needed to change (still does)#but you don’t just write Lynda Day as your first female lead and Madeline Crow as your current one and not be inherently invested in#telling women’s stories#to say nothing of Amy Pond and Clara Oswald and Bill Potts and River Song#at this point if you still believe Moffat is some misogynist goblin#I take that as shorthand for ‘I watched Sherlock and Doctor Who in 2011-2012 and that’s it#‘and I got all my feminist fandom talking points from Tumblr in those same years and never went further’#it’s 2024 just admit you (tumblr as a whole) got it wrong#like it’s not a crime to get it wrong lol#just be grown about it
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the overarching narrative of eleven’s era is honestly phenomenal, and it hits harder every time i watch it. the doctor has been burdened for so long by the weight of his decision to destroy gallifrey — a decision he made out of dire necessity, but that went against the very core of his being and everything he’s ever stood for — and he’s been fighting ever since to balance the ledger. (how many worlds do you think his regret has saved, do you think?) but despite every victory, he can’t escape his grief and guilt, and they inevitably begin to turn him into someone he never wanted to become. (a nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. the most feared being in all the cosmos.) all of this leads him to TDotD, where he comes face-to-face with the single greatest regret of his life — and realizes he has a chance to change it. he makes a new decision, and every version of himself that’s ever existed comes together across space and time to try to save gallifrey instead of destroying it, because that is who the doctor is. (never cruel or cowardly. never give up; never give in.)
and in saving gallifrey, he saves himself; it doesn’t rewrite the centuries of pain that brought him to that moment, but it allows him to heal and move forward with renewed understanding of his identity and purpose. the name he chose was a promise he made, and he’s kept that promise. all the threads woven slowly throughout the plot come together after that — the cracks in the universe, the silence’s plan to kill him, the looming shadow of trenzalore and the question that must never be answered. and after trying to outrun his fate and cheat death for so long, he finally stops running. when he reaches trenzalore he dedicates what he believes are the final years of his life to defending a tiny village on this unimportant little planet, because he knows with more certainty than ever that he is the doctor, and this is what he stands for. (every life i save is a victory. every single one.) all that time, the question is repeated over and over, for hundreds of years — the oldest question in the universe, hidden in plain sight, and when the answer is spoken at last, it’s exactly what we’ve known from the very beginning. his “true” name, the secret he’ll take to his grave, has never mattered. what matters is the name he chose, and the promise he made. (his name is the doctor. all the name he needs, everything you need to know about him.)
when it’s time for him to go, it feels triumphant; the eleventh doctor was born in an inferno, with a youthful face and a flashy, silly personality made to conceal an ocean of pain beneath, but now he’s finally at peace. now free from the grief and remorse he carried for so long, he lays his pretense of childlike insouciance to rest, and the twelfth doctor emerges with a new lease on life and an old, weathered face — one that was chosen as a perfect culmination of the journey that brought him here. (i know where i got this face, and i know what it’s for: to remind me. to hold me to the mark. i’m the doctor, and i save people.)
#like i won’t lie. i do have a LOT of criticisms about that era#particularly about the execution of some of the individual arcs and also like 90% of series 7#but the big picture of it all? life-changing. immaculate. hate to say it but you do have to hand it to moffat once in a while#doctor who#eleventh doctor#the day of the doctor#steven moffat#twelfth doctor#doctor who meta#long post#shouting into the vortex
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Recently started watching White Collar! More interesting than its reputation gives it credit for, but if the network were being at all honest with us, Mozzie would be trans and either a furry, a drag queen, or both
#come on#I've met weird little hackers who don't trust the system#it's okay mozzie i know who you are when you're not on 2008 television#pretty sure the lead actor is gay too#yeah apparently he came out five years later by thanking his husband at an award ceremony#anyway you can tell this is from the same era of television as Leverage#and that Moffat was taking notes for the BBC Sherlock aesthetic#edit: mozzie would only do drag in a 1920s speakeasy themed gay club#where the patrons are required to wear all black and check their cell phones at the door#yes I am thinking of a specific place I know exists#or did when the show was airing (thatnks covid)
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Something I’ve come to appreciate watching RTD1, Moffat, and Chibnall’s eras in such quick succession (with RTD2 airing as well) is how much each era really feels like it’s own show, but also the same show.
Doctor Who is just such a tonally, stylistically, aesthetically malleable show and it doesn’t really hit when you’re watching it spaced out over decades.
#I’ve been rewatching Doctor Who for my YouTube channel for the past several months#I’m on Flux rewatch right now and it’s really made me step back and realize#Chibnall Who feels so completely different to Moffat which feels so completely different to Davies#and yet I’m so many ways they all feel exactly the same actually#Also all 3 eras have mostly held up better than my memory of them#Doctor who#chris chibnall#Steven Moffat#russell t davies#ncuti gatwa#jodie whittaker#peter capaldi#matt smith#david tennant#Christopher Eccleston#bbc#dot and bubble#how do you get a tv show to lay 60 years? Range and Malleability babes
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back in the Superwholock days there was this post getting passed around my corner of tumblr about "teflon writing vs velcro writing," ostensibly as a nutshell summary of why fandom reacted so differently to Steven Moffat and Russell T Davies as Doctor Who showrunners: slick and polished and easier to admire (when done well) or coolly assess its flaws (when botched) than to get a grip on or pull apart & tinker with, vs. messy and prickly and grippy and tinkering-friendly and prone to getting its hooks in you whether or not you ever wanted that
and that's very funny to look back on with the distance of hindsight, because to this day--a full decade after peak Superwholock--RTD-era Who and Kripke-era SPN remain THE most insane, crazymaking, irreversible-brain-damage-inducing, "compelling in the way where they make me INCREDIBLY ANGRY and ITCHY TO FIX THEM because i am so stupid-invested that they still have me by the balls, even when my engagement is just picking apart the frustrations of how and why they SUCK" turbo-examples of velcro writing i have ever encountered in my LIFE
hell, they aren't even so much like velcro as they're like snagging the folds of a lace circle skirt on a whole branch of actual cockleburs and trying to wash the shrapnel out with fucking gorilla glue
.....and then there's BBC Sherlock. which was neither velcro writing nor teflon writing but an elaborate many-year con, targeted at the EXACT kinds of people who maintain a secret good Supernatural that lives in their heads, whose one neat trick was to bait its marks into collectively hallucinating a brilliant show so that Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss never had to put themselves to the trouble of writing one.
#computer tinkerers hear me out: if spn is microsoft windows and doctor who is various *nix distros and moffat-era who is macOS#then bbc sherlock is a fucking chromebook that reply guys SWEAR you can do full-stack software development and advanced image editing on#....if you root it and use some horrible 3rd party script to bolt a linux distro on top of chromeOS and physically install 32gb extra RAM#and even then the filesystem access is all screwy and *you're still doing your image editing in the GIMP*#fandom#superwholock#meta
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i truly do not understand the "moffat can do stories just not characters" take bc moffats stories to me Do start getting a little repetitive at points but im usually invested enough in the characters that it doesnt matter. rtds characters on the other hand usually boil down to "has a job"
#moffat writes stories that revolve around characters chibnall writes characters that revolve around stories rtd does fuck all#gridlock/smith and jones are his greatest accomplishments imo cause every other good ep in his era wasnt written by him lmao#sorry for being a hater it will happen again
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I cannot express in words how exhausting Moffat's who is so far
Like his women are 1 dimensional, the doctor is weirdly aggressive and thoughtless and not in a well-written or engaging way, the quips are fucking exhausting and don't get me started on the goddamn plot mess. I literally just watched it and I still don't get Demon's Run. Like who is Madame Kovarian, who are the Silence, why are they so obsessed with killing the Doctor, where did the significance of Demon's Run come from, why should we care about any of this? And past that, how did Mel get away from the Silence? How did she end up growing up alongside Amy and Rory? Moffat doesn't slow down and allow us to slow down and process anything, which means all this shit he's throwing at us just feels hollow and unearned. He's got some cool ideas that could be really enjoyable if they were slower paced and better explained. The Doctor being weirdly aggressive and self-important would be interesting if it weren't portrayed as him just being a genius action hero. Amy being dismissive of/talking down to/insulting Rory would be more tolerable if it wasn't played for laughs most of the time. Hell, River secretly growing up alongside the Ponds could've been really cool if it was better explained, better foreshadowed, and not just crammed into "two episodes containing at least half a season's worth of content." So many of these ideas have a lot of potential and ZERO payoff.
I wanted to make a tier list of every RTD and Moffat episode but tbh I don't think I'll make it past Angels Take Manhattan. I just can't do that to myself. I can make it to Angels and then I need a very long break
#I know I'm beating a daed hrose but jaysus christ it's just so badddddddddd#Most of RTD's era is S-B tier#While most of Moffat's era is C-F tier#I can count the number of A-B moffat-run episodes on one hand#and I don't think I can name think ANY S tier moffat-run episodes#ironically enough#all 6 of the RTD-era episodes that moffat wrote are at least A tier (and prolly more than half are S tier)#the man can write a really good doctor who episode!!#but he can't write a doctor who season for shit#doctor who#new who#nuwho#the doctor#10th doctor#11th doctor#steven moffat
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Ok, it’s irritating when I make a positivity post on my favorite show and someone trods along and reblogs it with an anti in the tags.
I post the positivity for a reason, if it’s reblogged with an “anti”, its now a tainted post and that really sucks.
There’s enough negativity on here, can we table it to bring some joy? Please???
#the dw fandom can be really negative so im trying to lessen it#rtd era#moffat era#chibnall era#ninth doctor#tenth doctor#eleventh doctor#twelfth doctor#thirteenth doctor#fourteenth doctor#fifteenth doctor#doctor who#doctor positivity#all eras are valid
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"The companions are important!
So stop constantly whining about how River should not be considered as a mere companion!"
Oh, I am thankful we got at least one mention of River during 13's era. But in that context? Like, how is Yaz on the same level as River? Companions are important, yes, but...
...but the Doctor doesn't marry their companions, dress up just for their date nights, preen before going out to meet them, consider them their queen and therefore, equal, tolerate (barely, but it's still there) their tendency towards guns and archeology (and stealing and murdering and marrying others for fun and whatnot), pop-up every time they're called, offer to rewrite time for them, engineer an entire planet just to have more time together, settle down (like actually settle down domesticity and all), and tell them their name
#Chibnall did not just try to undo a huge swath of Moffat's era#give River Song the importance she deserves!!#i really just can't when people downplay her role#like hello??#did we all watch the same episodes fr#river song#doctor who#yowzah#doctor x river#eleventh doctor#twelfth doctor#tenth doctor#on that note i'm really disappointed with the lack of River representation#doctor who 60th anniversary#thirteenth doctor#river x doctor#i am exhasuted physically#mentally#and emotionally#but i have to go on#because who knows#this might be the year#River gets out of that horrid Library
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