#Mithras VTM

[robotslenderman]

[VTM] Fic: Divine Intervention 5/15

Title: Divine Intervention

Fandom: Vampire: The Masquerade (His Dark Materials AU)

Adjacent Sub-Fandoms: London by Night, VTM: Coteries of New York, His Dark Materials

Main Characters: Olivia Martin (Ventrue OFC), Mithras, Roger de Camden

Major Characters: Tiffany de Camden (Ghoul OFC)

Story Summary:

A year and a half after drinking the blood of a powerful vampire, an American SI captive, Olivia, is released into British society to spy on the strongest one of all: Roger de Camden, a chronically depressed necromancer who’s quite ready to go to sleep and never wake up. But his daemon is utterly fascinated with Olivia, and worse still, the delusions she’s had since the diablerie seem to be fixated on the two of them in turn. But as the SI throw their plans away and Olivia finds herself fighting for her life, the delusion that she is Mithras, the ancient god-king of Britain, only seems to grow stronger and stronger. Worse still, there seems to be something other than Mithras living in her head with her…

Chapter Summary: In which Olivia goes mostly ignored by her new havenmates, and Timaeus says a bunch of spooky shit. Also she feels entitled to steal Roger's most prized possession.

Chapter 4 is here!

Snip:

Rowan lay on the ground, slumped to the side as if the daysleep had struck him halfway through drawing the damn thing. There was a strange pointed cap in his arms that looked like it should have disintegrated years ago. "Careful," Timaeus whispered. "He has our blood. He doesn't sleep as deeply as other Cainites."

[nevertrustanoracle]

Valerius deserves a sarcastic “you tried” gold star for his assassination attempt. Blowing up an ammunition depot is a great idea for dealing with powerful Kindred…

Except that he did it to probably the only two in London who it wouldn’t work on: the guy who can (apparently) step into the Shadowlands whenever he wants, and the guy who is notoriously resistant to fire.

Good job Valerius. Well done.

[hubakon1368]

I'd love to know how you'd rewrite the SI's attack on London. Since it would be fun to see the SI get their asses kicked because they sorely underestimated Mithras and Roger. :)

I haven't really given it much thought beyond "London's Kindred population remains completely in tact", but I love your idea.

[v5citations]

You Cannot Play an Elder Stop Teasing Me With the Possibility

What do you mean??? OLDER???? Page 180 of the Core Rulebook

YOU LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE ANYONE OLDER THAN ANCILLAE PER YOUR CHARACTER CREATION RULES on 137

We'll get to the set time frames of generations in another post I promise.

[slippi-the-magos]

Pre heresy Fulgrim is a toreador, post heresy fulgrim is a toreador who has learned vicissitude & serpentis & joined a Setite cult, oh but fulgrim would totally be a Nephilim cultist. Maybe blood marriage with setite NKari for political purposes? Arranged marriage trope Cultist version?

Oh maybe, big E is a vampire god like Mithras, who has 20 disciples. Set is already a god of chaos anyway, though a bit different from Slaanesh bc Set is more weather related. Hm Big E as an Methusala of the Ventrue clan? And maybe psyker powers can be something like blood sorcery here, so unique Ventrue bloodline with blood sorcery, mastery over other's blood? His 20 disciples are his childer but of different clans/or has the characteristics of different clans. So divergent-bloodline of Ventrue bloodline.

No, Big E as an Antedeluvian or second generation, first or zero generation even. Uhhhh, non-caine related vampire? Oh fuck, Big E as Caine, Abel as Starchild. Or big e as the secret third child of Adam and Eve. Or big E as the one who gave Caine Vampirism.

How did Big E become Vampire? Magic/blursing/childe of cain or some other progenitor

I need to flesh thjs out.

I wonder if there're any vtm and wh fans near me (in irl)

[ryttu3k]

This might be a stupid question but how does generation and age affect vtm kindred? like if a 3rd gen kindred were embraced yesterday would they automatically be more powerful the a 5th gen who'd been around for 100 years? I tried looking it up and I just got confused...

Well, a 3rd generation Kindred couldn't be Embraced yesterday because the 2nd generation are all dead XD THAT WE KNOW OF. Dum-da-da-dum. So let's make the comparison a newly-Embraced 4th gen, versus a century-old 6th gen.

So first, how are we defining power? Ability to survive a fight? Raw potential? Higher stats? The century-old 6th gen would likely have higher stats (up to level 7) and be better able to survive night by night because they'd have accumulated more exp to spend on stats, disciplines, etc, whereas the newly-embraced 4th gen would have much more powerful potential (up to level 9), but wouldn't have had the time to build up those skills. They wouldn't have been Embraced with the ability to whip out The Last Dracul, y'know? Discipline-wise, they're definitely starting at a lower level, although attributes are a bit fuzzier (the baby methuselah might be able to punch through a steel wall in a panic).

In-universe, the explanation is that vampires get stronger over time, with vitae becoming more potent. Mechanically, this is mostly down to accumulated experience points, which can be spent on disciplines, attributes, et cetera. There'll still always be an upper limit depending on generation; a gen 6 vampire can't learn a level 8 discipline no matter what.

Where the fledgling 4th gen would beat the ancilla 6th gen is in the raw potential and power of their blood. A fledgling 4th gen would actually be in a ridiculous amount of danger, because their blood would be incredibly potent. They'd be diablerie-bait for anyone looking for a quick power-up. Just to demonstrate how potent methuselah blood is, Monty Coven (originally 11th gen) diablerised 4th gen Mithras and rocketed all the way down to 6th gen (albeit with Mithras' spirit surviving and able to take over again, with Roger's ritual restoring him to 4th gen power). Dropping five generations in one go! And a fledgling, who's presumably still trying to work out how to navigate the night? Oh man, they'd be potential Forbidden Snackies for everyone, while also likely needing very potent blood of their own (both older vampires and lower-gen vampires need more powerful blood; many methuselah have to resort to regular diablerie because drinking human blood just doesn't cut it any more).

So, tl;dr, a newly-Embraced 4th gen would have far more raw power and potential than an older vampire of the 6th gen, but the 6th gen would have had more time to actually learn their disciplines and accumulate abilities and skills, and also would probably want to eat the 4th gen for their ridiculously potent blood.

[a-dragons-journal]

For Roshan: How does your religion view their connection with your god? Like does your belief system involve your god giving signs, or communicating somewhat regularly? Maybe less tangible things? Or is it a sort of "they can't or don't interfere" sort of thing? Not quite sure how to word this question I just really enjoy hearing different experiences as to how people view their connection with their gods and I'd love to hear yours.

>< Hmm. Well - I think the degree is probably a subject of debate, but I do think of Mithras as a god that can be communicated with and send signs (hell, I've asked for and received a sign even since arriving here, which was more than I was honestly expecting).

There's this kind of weird dynamic where Mithras is objectively a god that has turned away from vampirekind, cursed us even, and yet... he must still be watching us to some degree, because of that. And, after all, Mithraics have the Discipline of Helios as his gift to us, which allows us to partially shrug off his sun-curse, which means we must still have some favor from him. Maybe that's just a holdover from the version of the story where we were the only ones of his childer who remained loyal, instead of being the ones who returned after turning away, but I don't think so.

(For any VtM players in the background wondering what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to Helios, it's not a Discipline that appears in VtM canon; in the fictional sense, it was originally homebrewed at our table for the VtM canon Mithras (a Ventrue methuselah).)

Anyway. Got distracted waxing philosophical there, sorry. But yeah, Mithras absolutely does grant signs and sometimes even powers - even outside of Helios, there's magic associated with certain religious rites that is very, very real. (The skeptical would probably say it's "just" blood sorcery. The skeptical Mithraic would probably respond that the fact that this power is in the blood to be unlocked in the first place is itself the gift from Mithras. Etc. etc. You can get real deep in the weeds with this stuff.)

Hopefully that answers the question?

--Roshan (fae/faer)

[bloodylondonvtm]

Bloody London! An 18+ VtM PbP Discord!

Server Name: Bloody London! Base system: V20 with some Homebrew

Description: Bloody London has just had the grande finale of its latest Metaplot - Hunters and Kindred alike chasing after the ghosts of Mithras’ legacy - spanning over the past four years. Now, with its conclusion, we provide the perfect time to hop on board as new storylines begin to manifest and we build up to our next overarching narrative. From dead Mithras’ elusive presence still felt within the late Methuselah’s domain, the Sabbat at the city’s doorstep and several hunter factions about, one wonders what trouble’s brewing during the quiet before this next storm.

Our Chronicle offers the opportunity to truly immerse yourself in the setting through pursuing both player-driven and Storyteller-lead plots, providing a collaborative storytelling experience that delves deep into the lore and themes of the World of Darkness.

Short description of the rules: Time zone: Any time – we have players all over the world, so if you’re in a timezone that doesn’t get much love you’ll likely be able to find something! Platform: Discord play-by-post

New Players welcome! Whether you've played V20 for years or not once we'd love to have you.

Plotlines generated by both players and Storytellers.

Frequent plots and events for characters to participate in.

We are primarily a Camarilla Neonate chronicle, but offer opportunities for all sects.

Camarilla, Anarch, and Independent factions available immediately, both from Core Clans and Bloodlines. Sabbat characters available as 2nd characters.

Kindred, Ghouls, Revenants, Dhampir, Hedge Mages and Mortals all playable.

Looking for:

Players, both new and experienced welcome!

Invitation link: https://discord.gg/2qDYsrD4Vu

[gauntlings]

i keep seeing you tag things for lauralene please tell me more about her 👀👀

Detailed character info under the cut, in cast that's not your thing so sorryyyy

You have no idea how giddy seeing this question made me oh my god! I had to bust out the laptop to type this one all out lmao

Yes of course! Lauralene Lark is my VTM vampire OC who I currently play in a Victorian London campaign setting with some of my best friends.

Lauralene is truly one of my favorite characters ever, and I've put her smack dab in arguably the best/worst setting for a girl like her.

She's my southern siren. A southern belle from the states who was turned in France around the late 1700's, while in her early 20's, the prime of her life. She was accompanying her brother on business matters but secretly was always trying to elbow her way into the spotlight. There she met her sire, and was turned. She is from the Daughters of Cacophony bloodline, which means she can drive people to insanity or into submission with her voice, and baby girl is maxed out on charisma, manipulation, and performance.

While she is known for her voice, she is primarily a rising star as an actress on the stage in London. She was deeply maddeningly sickeningly in love with her lesbian sire whose whims she followed for the better part of a century, before ultimately being abandoned by her for reasons still unclear. The breakup is still a wound she carries, but she's gone through enough lately that she is in the anger stage about being abandoned, and is striving for personal success as a fuck you to her sire. She's petty as fuck when she wants to be, which is often.

She recently had her career take off and her personal life become absolutely destroyed by recent campaign events which I will not bore you with lol. Also worth mentioning: in our game Lauralene is the real life inspiration for Christine Daae from Phantom of the Opera. Her domain is the Royal Opera House, and her toxic jealous ex (the man who almost turned her, but who was not quick enough) is the basically her Phantom, & is working to reveal vampire existence to all of London & the world. He is obsessed with turning her to his side, which is currently very tempting and very dangerous. He is on the side of the enemy, known as The Sabbat, and Lauralene is tentatively gaining status as a member of the vampire Camarilla. And to associate with him would mean insta-death.

Additional fun tidbits:

- She has made a deal with a demon, which has made her an enemy of someone very important to a person in power

- She is helping drive asylum patients to madness for a scientific study

- She's very good at driving other vampires into a blood frenzy, albeit unintentionally 🤪 Very girl slay of her if you ask me but I'm biased.

- Prince Mithras of London wants to kill and eat her annoying ass. Not in the sexy way 😩

God there's honestly so much more about her since I've been playing her since March of last year, but she is my Lady Lazarus, my Persephone self-insert, and my own romantic embodiment of the lure of death.

I have a pinterest board for her as well and a spotify playlist because I can't casually engage with anything I enjoy I have to be weird about it always 🤦‍♀️❤️

[nemo-of-house-hamartia]

SO.

I AM KINDA SORTA IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING A RELATIONSHIP MAP FOR ALL THE CHARACTERS.

and good gods, if this isn't a perfect representation of how convoluted all my thoughts are, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WOULD BE, TBH.

This was me while "digitally pinning all the stuff to the board"

But in all seriousness, I am kinda sorta in the process of making a relationship map for all the characters of my "London By Night" Chronicles, and omg I didn't realize how intricated this all thing would turn out to be.

I certainly didn't expect Jacob to be the baby of the whole bunch, and yet here we are.

And then, you have Haytham, that would love to become part of Geriatric Town, but cannot because he doesn't meet the Generation threshold (tbh, not even the proper age, but we all know that Haytham is a Methuselah at heart, if not on the paper lololol).

The only thing that I kinda wish is for this to showcase also the Clan each character belongs to, because it was incredibly fun choosing the ones for the AC character!

Now I need to start adding some characters from the VtM lore and a few more OCs (Artemis, I am looking at you), and definitely I need to add more characters to Jacob's Baronry.

I was so tempted to actually put a picture of Nandor for Mithras (it fits. Yes, I am totally not thirsting for Nandor and looking for an excuse to use him in one way or another) but in the end I resorted to use his "official" portrait from the V5 corebook.

well, time to go back and brainstorm a tad more before going to sleep (gods I am still so freaking tired).

Toodaloo!

--Nemo

[handern]

my favorite bit of VTM lore is like, everything that has to do with Mithras tbh

he's 4th generation which means he either was embraced directly by the Ventrue clan founder or ate someone who had been

he's 3200 years old+

he's persian but he fucking hates scottish people

the rules books keep saying that love isn't real for vampires, except for what he, Camden and the 6 humanity points they have between the two of them, have going on

his husband is the leader of a cult dedicated to him

he keeps taking 200 years long power naps and has to go back to ruling his territories even though a couple civilizations collapsed and all the people he knew died while he was asleep, even the vampire ones

he despises the Tremere so much he threw Valerius by a window for letting them come to London once

he stayed at a regular human mental health hospital for months after a bad breakup

Dracula actually canonically came to London and he was pissed about it

he kills a pack of werewolves w his hare hands and then immediately gets eaten by a 20 years old vampire

he even wears a phrygian hat on a daily basis

the camarilla hates him so much

[nevertrustanoracle]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Vampire: The Masquerade Rating: Not Rated Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Roger de Camden/Mithras, Roger de Camden/Constancia (lightly hinted at) Characters: Roger de Camden, Mithras (Vampire: The Masquerade), Constancia (Vampire: The Masquerade) Additional Tags: no beta we die like the Cappadocians, Roger is referred to as both Rowan and Roger Summary:

Just a small, slightly silly fic inspired by me starting to read the DA Cappadocian novel and learning more about Constancia. Just imagine the things that could happen if your sire was a powerful oracle

Got hit with a plot bunny and wrote this over the weekend.

[blanketempress]

they say you can't win at VTM and yet DrTimothy is right there, running an asylum in a town where Mithras and Valerius are running free and being themselves

[y-rhywbeth2]

Still not free from the hyperfixation overlap, especially when I remembered that Cappadocius is one of the candidates for the Ante who founded the Baali, the question is do I assign that to Bhaal or Bane... though to be honest I can ground any fixation in this hyperfixation: I once completely lost my mind to an Ace Attorney VtM AU after realising that Pheonix Wright is what you get when a Toreador has a law degree.

Overlapping themes here involve infernalism and the Clan of Death. Also if we're assuming Cappadocius was responsible; creating a nightmarish monstrosity of a bloodline wrapped up in evil is definitely something Jergal would've done in his heyday.

Can have the Giovanni partially fill in for Bhaal and Bane and have the Baali cover the blood sacrifices and pit of bloody nightmares feeding the blood of the innocent to sate horrors beneath the earth vibe that Bhaal has going on.

How fortunate that the Baali can 'adopt,' so Durge can be both the product of a nightmarish incestuous death cult with members prone to necrophilia and cannibalism and touched by forces of pure bloodthirsty evil that moved into their head at birth.

Or maybe they diablerised one, and the being that walked away was the Dark Urge. Roll Bhaal into the roles two-three characters: a Giovanni sire, their biological father, and some ancient evil - maybe a Sleeper, a Neverborn Malfean, or some ancient elder (Moloch/Ba'al Hammon?) Or maybe Dis Pater himself for mysterious reasons that led to possession at age eight and the slaughter of their immediate family at a birthday party... All three are terrible and daddy issues continue to abound.

I guess having them be born to a D'habi revenant family also works though.

The next question is what the hell do I do with Gortash... I mean, with his backstory being 'sold to and raised in hell' I could switch it around: Bane gets the Baali and Bhaal gets the Giovanni... Bane is very bloodthirsty... also less linked to necromancy and death itself than the other two, though there is a slight link. He also potentially had a half-demon son, so.

...and also a blackguard, so as a mortal he made pacts with fiends.

Myrkul gets the underworld dwelling, black-hooded, mask-wearing morbid bitches, as usual.

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Considering putting Lae'zel on the Path of Honorable Accord.

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Astarion has the thinnest blood but by far the highest age - bordering ancilla at two centuries old, except Cazador was in charge of his mentoring so he has little more experience than a fledgling fresh out from under their sire's wings. He's not bitter though(!) He's not maybe at the start thinking about diablerising any of the lower generation younger party members when their backs are turned, noooo...

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Dunno what to do with Baldur's Gate. I guess London can work (but you don't want to deal with Mithras on top of everything else) or make up a city in South England. The Sword Coast is giant chalk cliffs, maybe in Kent.

My trip to Baldur's Gate: Vampire the Masquerade AUs has haunted me all day.

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The Dead Three aren't going to translate neatly and should probably be split into different characters covering different aspects of the originals. The Clan of Death is the neatest fit for them overall, but they don't all fit. The Giovanni fit Bhaal best (the Endless Night is basically his ideal, then there's the family money, the fucked up family shit). The scholarly bent of the Cappadocians with the aesthetic of the Harbingers of Skull is Myrkul and followers. Myrkul and Bhaal are too tied to death and undeath, if you take them out of here you lose something. Bane, frankly, is Ventrue with a splash of Lasombra; which does take us out of the box and the succession thing. Luckily their antediluvian is dead as hell as far as anyone can tell, so that's free real estate.

Withers is a fragment of Cappadocius; 'retired' and his one church/clan split in three (they might be pawns though god knows who of); mostly forgotten in the modern nights; seems benign on the surface and then you look closer and he's the world's least trustworthy motherfucker. Jergal has never schemed to eat Ao's soul as far as I know, but I sure wouldn't put anything past him.

Failing that he's the Capuchin... assuming those two are so unrelated, although I'm pretty sure the Capuchin is Lazarus.

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Haarlep is hosting the succubus club. I will overlook how much it annoys be that 5e stopped the succubus being strictly tanar'ri for the bit.

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Durge: Extremely low generation Giovanni neonate... or Baali, if you want to go ultimate edgelord. Enjoys the principle of Taboo in their necromancy work too much.

Gale: Has an Oblivion-tainted chunk of Mr 'I Can Totally Eat God's Soul and Replace Him' in his chest, so Cappadocian, I guess. Formerly awakened, but he ignored his avatar when it warned him not to touch The Thing and here we are.

Astarion: World's Worst Tremere Wants Dark Thaumaturgy. So he doesn't have to actually study hermetic mysticism to get the rewards of blood sorcery. And also to be free of the pyramid. Cazador should not be a regent, but alas, he won his certamen against Velioth. And also diablerised him. And made a pact with an Archduke of Hell.

Shadowheart: Setite by faith, Lasombra Abyss Mystic by lineage. Is actually kinfolk to the Children of Gaia, but she neither knows that nor would it help her to know that in any way.

Karlach: Abandoned Gangrel fledgling is taken in by Kind Older Vampire who is Going to Show Her the Ropes and Definitely Not Scheming; This is heart-warming and definitely not going to be tragic. (The horns and tail are permanent frenzy mutations).

Wyll: I got Toreador vibes over here. He's got an insanely high humanity rating, but Mizora's a diabolist and Wyll's caught in the net. Haven't decided whether Mizora or, if I stretch, Ulder is his sire. It's probably Mizora.

Lae'zel: Still thinking on that one, but I do get Sabbat crusader vibes. Ventrue antitribu? I think that fits. She's had heavy modification from a deceased Tzimisce pack mate.

[soothinghymn]

mithras is the only ventrue I’m allowed to draw, on the technicality that monty coven is banu haqim (WIP)

[a-dragons-journal]

are there any hierarchies in your religion? any people who are looked up to as more learned in your traditions, or closer to Mithras than a regular follower?

>< There is a system of rank, but I get the impression it's not as important to us as it is to, say, Clan Tremere in canon VtM - though that might just be that my mithraeum specifically feels that way, idk. I don't have a lot of details about how that works. In this world's mithraism, it seems like there were seven degrees of rank; I don't... necessarily think that's true for my mithraism. Dawn-Priests and Dusk-Priests don't fit into that hierarchy, after all. I think there's ranks above that? I don't know if every temple has a Dawn-Priest and/or Dusk-Priest (I don't know if we had a Dusk-Priest, or if we only had a Dawn-Priest), but I don't think they're uncommon either. I don't... think there's a single leader it all goes up to? More like a council? But I could be wrong about that.

It's less... it's less "closer to Mithras" and more "older, more learned, more experienced, more powerful". The elders are expected to impart knowledge upon the younger, and to protect them when necessary. The younger are expected to heed their elders' wisdom and learn from them in turn.

...Unfortunately I think that's about all I've got. Sorry ^^;

--Roshan (fae/faer)