#Media Fatphobia
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STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS RICH ASSHOLES
STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS LOUD AND "ANNOYING"
STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS GROOMERS/PEDOPHILES
STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS STALKERS/CREEPS
STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS "DISGUSTING" AND "UNLOVEABLE"
STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS "ANNOYING" THIRDWHEELS
STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS BIGOTS
STOP DEPICTING FAT PEOPLE AS SELFISH AND RUDE
STOP DEPICTING CONFIDENT FAT PEOPLE AS "PICK MES" OR "WEIRDOS"
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP MAKING YOUR FAT CHARACTERS LOSE WEIGHT FOR THEM TO HAVE A "HAPPY ENDING"
#i hate hate hateee when people do this shit#if your watching/reading any type of media and their only fat character matches anything on this list#turn that shit off immediately#tw pedophila mention#tw grooming mention#tw all caps#fatphobia#fat characters#fat representation#fat liberation#anti fatphobia#fat acceptance
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it feels like there's been such a change recently in like general internet culture to just a lack of empathy and an increase in blatantly dismissing people, like the whole "womp womp" trend that, like, it was funny but like there's a limit ?? And the like "So sorry this happened to you! Can I use it for my oc lore? <3" copypasta on posts of people that were expressing genuine problems or traumas, also with how incredibly prevalent and normalised fatphobia and those sorts of jokes are in a way that feels so much more recent in online spaces?
Like people like to joke about 2020 and cancel culture and everything, and sure, like, it had its problems, but it also felt genuinely supportive and welcoming, and not so afraid to be genuine or nice or atleast polite and not openly rude to people??
#rant post#fatphobia#social media#transphobia#internet culture#social media culture#2020s#media analysis#media critique
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Thin privilege is representation
Thin privilege is turning on the TV, selecting any movie or series through a streaming app, or opening a magazine and seeing at least one person with your general body type being portrayed for their human qualities and not their physical characteristics.
Thin privilege is getting to be a human with interests and a story. Thin privilege is starring in an adventure or romance or thriller as a human being with a name, interests and a backstory that do not revolve around or at least refer in some way to body size.
Thin privilege is the default, the gray icon, the naked Barbie, the first character setting on any game, the crosswalk stickman, the bathroom stall sign, the sample size, the fitness app default.
Thin privilege is representation.
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#Keep boycotting paramount. even if this movie was the best thing in the world that does not matter at all#But I at least was hoping it would be better than it is looking. For many reasons#I am so beyond sick of fatphobia in big budget films man. Why’s this shit still happening#It’s one of the reasons I couldn't ever stand lost world and it always sours sonic media so much#Ugh. A movie doesn’t even matter in the grand scheme of things but Maria and Shadow are so very dear to me and I’m glad she is at least#Going to be included in generations bc this blows#At least Shadow looks cool. Whatever#sonic 3 spoilers
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There are too many fatphobic stereotypes to name, and of course all of them are bad, overdone tropes, but:
-Mod Worthy
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yknow i kinda think u guys just think ppl who use tiktok are stupid
#venus.txt#be real. the biggest unique problems i see there are self-directed fatphobia disguised as 'being healthy' and how the aggressively#algorithmic nature of the app affects peoples perception of real life#and a good bit of overconsumption (but most of what ends up on my fyp related to that is ppl denouncing it)#people arent like. illiterate and unfunny and inconsiderate and mean and brain dead by default#just because they use an extremely popular social media app#obviously i cant (and wouldnt try to) speak for the entire userbase. its called a 'for you page' for a reason#but i dont think its fair to look at the problems something has and think#'everyone who uses that is lesser than me. im too smart to fall into that trap'#some comparisons that come to mind are cults and propaganda. you are not immune (to the algorithm)
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Can we talk about how the media treats fat men.
Whenever a white fat man is depicted he's usually a HUGE unlikable asshole, and if he's under the age of 18, he'll be depicted as an irredeemable bully. Even now that media has started humanizing bully characters fat boys don't get that luxury.
They will show the bully making the MC's life a living hell and the mc still has to forgive him now that the story's pulled out his tragic backstory. Unless the bully is fat in which case the MC only gets to play a single mean joke on him and we never see the kid again.
And whenever a white fat man in media is also gay he is depicted as predatory and creepy.
The only time that fat men are not demonized is when they're poc, even then fat men of color are reduced to comedic relief. Especially if they're black.
Write better fat men!
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dungeon meshi impresses me because its a series all about eating and yet it doesnt seem to have any explicit fatphobia in it, not even jokes (ive only seen anime and from what i see online btw) even the little lore building mini page about how you lose weight when you die in the dungeon and need to pack on pounds to stay healthy was good and not fatphobic. The series still has most all the main characters not actually being drawn fat though, even senshi looks more stocky and muscular with no tummy even tho he has most reasons to be fat from the lore
#All my reviews of fatphobia in media i see are like a pros cons thing#Bc they ALL have some sort of fatphobia in there somewhere#Maybe the real fatphobia was the dungeon meshi fans trying to convince me skinny characters were actually fat#(While not actually even drawing them fat themselves.)
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thin able-bodieds (disclaimer: i am a cripple but i'm a skinny one) on tiktok short-circuiting over the idea that maybe using fat people on electric scooters with tech that does bADLs for them as symbolic of "peak consumerism" (e.g. wall-e) is maybe a tad bit reflective of society's attitudes about fat people, physically disabled people, and especially fat physically disabled people
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The new Velma show seems to neatly fall into this trend of tv shows (paramount heathers, leaked powerpuff girls script) that want to seem progressive by having a diverse cast, while simultaneously wanting to preserve that same edgy, punch-down comedy style found in 'centrist' or conservative media. They want the praise for having female, queer, and characters of colour while still retaining an audience made up of mainly edgy white men laughing at how ridiculous ‘the minorities’ are behaving. It’s a punch-down comedy wolf in progressive sheep clothing.
The fundamental flaw in this logic is that show runners assume the audience that would enjoy this humour will see past that supposedly progressive façade… and that often doesn’t happen. A lot of these specific edgy types see diversity as a red flag and immediately presume some type of agenda. It’s almost like seeing a minority participate in the joke (even though they’re still very much the punchline) zaps all the humour out of it or they can’t understand that the joke is still for them if it isn’t said by someone that looks exactly like them. And because they (especially, but not only, cishet white men) recognise all the jokes from things they like, but don’t find them funny anymore, the only reasonable explanation they have is that diversity is bad and makes it unfunny, instead of realising their inherent inability to recognise and relate to any character that isn’t a white man.
Meanwhile, an audience that would appreciate a diverse cast does recognise the comedy for what it is: cheap jokes made at their expense. At most there are occasional jabs thrown in at the white and/or male characters which often don’t relate to these identities in any fundamental or even realistic way. So you have this show that constantly uses it’s minority characters as punchlines and only includes vaguely progressive, but ultimately pretty universally accepted, messaging hoping progressive audiences will be enamoured with the occasional ‘girlboss moment™️’, while not noticing that vast amounts of regressive ideals.
In the end neither audience feels appealed to and the show is a massive failure. While it might be satisfying to see that these conservative audiences are too blinded by, let’s be honest here, identity politics to recognise something that is clearly made for them, ultimately all that is remembered is that ‘the comedy show featuring a lot of diversity’ failed. And it becomes harder for people who actually want to make media with, and especially for, minorities have a harder time getting any funding. Shows like these are a lose lose situation when it comes to furthering diversity in the media landscape and it’s increasingly frustrating to see this happen again and again.
#most of the criticism I’ve seen so far is hinging on the expectation that this show would be progressive because of the representation#but if you see it as just another family guy copycat you can see all the ‘weirdly problematic stuff’ not as flaws but part of the design#meanwhile most of the criticism coming from conservatives is ‘wokeness ruined scooby doo’#we can’t assume just because something features minorities that it is for those minorities#especially with the rise of anti-intellectualism and ‘the curtains are just blue’ mentality this seems to happen more and more#they also often feature the surface acceptance of women queer people and poc while still being very blatantly bigoted towards other groups#many of which are discriminated against as well but their activism efforts are not as widely recognised#so you might not have as much blatant racism and sexism but incredible amounts of ableism and fatphobia#meanwhile the more obvious bigotry is either subtler or deflected by characters pointing it out like that erases the joke#this isn’t even touching on how all of these shows also wildly misconstrue the purpose of the media they are adapting#scooby doo#hbo velma#velma 2023#paramount heathers
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Let's make a list of all the good fat characters in media!
• Red Shoes (and the Seven Dwarfes)
• Stan Pines
• Super Mario
• ummm... Santa Claus??
That's all I got. 😞
#fat liberation#fat positivity#fatphobia#seriously it's sad how few good fat characters there are in media#Stan Pines doesn't even count if you look at it a certain way#Mario from the Super Show in the 80's was obsessed with food too so like idk
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hey why do we always draw caitlyn so that she looks skinny as fuck? like ridiculously skinny? like no internal organs skinny? yes i know she’s skinny in the show but that’s never stopped tumblr fanartists before!! i feel like it’s getting more and more exaggerated to the point of feeling weird and beauty-standard-y and unrealistic. we know that vi would kiss a caitlyn with a little bit (or a lot) of tummy !!!!
#not intending to shame anyone with that body type obv#but like we exist in the context yk?#the context of beauty standards and societal expectations and the fact that we’re on the eating disorder website#and idk. i want my lesbian friends and i to be able to relate to caitlyn and vi without feeling inadequate#it reminds me of lesbian influencer couples#(who i love way too much btw)#they’re often conventionally pretty people cuz that’s how social media works!#and we look at these visible examples of happy lesbian relationships that we aspire to#and it’s easy to get self image brainworms when your only examples are sexy skinny people!!#idk i wanna see us get more creative with the caitvi art#i want a variety of real lesbians to be represented god dammit!!#going hunting for this kind of caitvi art rn maybe i’ll find some and rb it :3#caitvi#violyn#arcane#caitlyn arcane#vi arcane#arcane season 2#arcane s2#wlw#body image#fatphobia#weight mention#rambling
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the way people won’t just let fat people fucking exist without commenting on their weight when literally no one asked is wild to me lmao we aren’t bothering y’all so why tf do y’all have to bother us
#I’m so sick of seeing soooo much fatphobia on literally every social media platform#if you don’t have anything kind to say just stfu
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The Classic Tradition of Thin White Women Thinking They're Fat by Little Shop of Ali
Cw: discussion of body dymophia, disordered eating
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I desperately hope that one day little girls will grow up with fat girls rep so they won’t obsess over their body all their life
#fat girls are valid#fat girls are beautiful#fuck off capitalistic body norms#fat#fat girls#fat representation#fatphobia#media representation#capitalism#consumerism#every body is beautiful#every body is a good body#love yourself#love your body#mailmiocuoredipietratremaancora
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Media that conflates eating/fatness with greed/capitalism. I am launching it into the trash with the force of a thousand suns.
#cw fatphobia#just watched a movie I’ve not watched in ten years#and I’d forgotten why I do not watch that movie#I shall not state it because it is a very beloved movie of many#but wow I am shaking from rage lol#watching media is just like. the worst game of Russian roulette for if there’s going to be aggressive soul-destroying fatphobia in it.#wahoo… /s
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