#LutumLore

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In her post-death state, is honeyspring even thinking clearly, or is the isolation messing with her mind?

Honeyspring counts to eight; it looks like everything's in order!

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I CANT MAKE IT MYSELF BUT SOMEONE MAKE FANART OF HONEYSPRING W/ THAT WEIRD "I FEEL FANTASTIC" AUDIO OH MY GOOOOOOOODDDDD

Didn't you hear? She feels fantastic!

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You mentioned a while ago that Honeyspring was the one who suggested Sweetkit’s name; does that mean the two of them interacted before Honeyspring’s death? I’d assume that Sweetkit was most likely too young to remember. I wonder how Honeyspring felt about her while she was alive…

"Sweet?" Bearface chuckles quietly, squinting at the kit rolling in his nest. "She tried nipping me on the paw today; she barely has teeth and still wouldn't let go."

"That just means she loves you," Honeyspring laughed, the pleasant sound quickly spiraling into a string of wet coughs. Clearing her throat, she continues, softer now, "And isn't that just the sweetest thing?"

Moon ???

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Hi Palekit!!!! How is it being awake? Are you having fun?

Palekit appears to be quivering with excitement, fond of the apprentice who shares a name.

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Wait here just a second, Bearface says he's getting prey from the "outside," is he STEALING healthy prey from the other clans?

(I believe this is referring to this post!)

Bearface stretches slowly, settling further into his nest. "Clan cats and their silly ol' laws. 'Sides, I don't want Sweetkit gettin' sick." he drawls, "I've eaten worse, but she shouldn't hafta. I can handle a bit of crowfood."

His eyes flutter shut, and he lets out another loud yawn. "What the others don't know won't hurt 'em."

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Here's a slightly more proper allegiance page for the cats of LutumClan! I don't have references for every character, but this is all the cats LutumClan currently has (that are alive, that is).

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I noticed that everyone exept Sweetkit is looking at the viewer. Whats Sweetie lookin at?

-🐤 (can i be chick anon?)

What are you looking at, Sweetkit?

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Honeyspring you deserved better darling. Beautiful creature. You and your kits were betrayed so tragically. So brutally. You and your babies deserved better.

Tanglefern...deserves a fate I can not rightly describe for damning you and those precious babies. I hope you make him pay.

Make him pay.

Make him pay.

Make him pay.

Honeyspring breaths shakily, lungs bloating with sticky fluid.

They are alone in the woods.

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This is sort of silly but when I first started reading the comic I was so inherently freaked by Honeyspring on like a subconscious level that I was hesitant to open my own clangen game- like she'd be haunting it or something. Creepypasta vibes. I've gotten over it since then but I thought it was sort of funny (currently on moon 700 for my own clan tho!)

That's pretty neat! The idea of Honeysping being a low-key ClanGen creepypasta is humorous to me!

That reminds me that I think something's wrong with my ClanGen run. I tried to do a patrol, and my whole game flickered and crashed! Is this a part of the Halloween events?

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Oh man... Reading Sweetkit's naming comic strip just makes my mind run to different places. I wonder just how much Honeyspring's spirit remembers Sweetkit when they first interact with her - in fact, I wonder how much of Sweetkit's first meeting with Honeyspring was accidental and how much was Honeyspring *seeking* Sweetie out. Actually, if she thought Sweetkit was so lovely, then wouldn't it be just soooo sweet to have the kits play with her? Come on, Honeyspring, come out while mean Tanglefern and the rest aren't looking! After all, it seems little Palekit has just awakened and wants to play! And do not̴̗̺͑͐͠ ̸͇̱̦̐̽f̸̩͇͂͗ơ̷̰r̸̛͙̦̄̋g̴͓͠i̴͎͉̒v̴̗̲̓̌͘ẹ̷̗̄ ̸̫̈́̔̔t̷̻͗h̵͙̆e̴̠̥̎͠m̷̨̲͇̽͘ ̴̗̼̣̉f̶̧̖̾̈́̅o̸̰͑ͅͅr̴̦͓͖̚͝ ̴̬̫̮̄́̈́w̶̼̌̇̈́h̸͚͛à̴̩̥̜͒t̶̯͕̍̓ ̶͚̺̀͌t̴͉̫̱͐̾͝h̸̛͓̅ḛ̷̄y̴̼̭̓ ̶̩̂͂̐d̶͕̠̠̋̽i̵͍̽͘ḓ̷̈̀

Cradle;

Honeyspring stares blankly ahead, into the great expanse of the field beyond, scraping their claws against the dirt, and slowly scrambling free. With great effort, and the noisy cracking of bones, she pushes herself from the dirt.

It does not hurt. Their nerves had frayed a long time ago, stuffed with poison, and their bones were soft as moss, riddled with rot. All that plagues her is the deep, uncomfortable gnaw of emptiness; empty where her kits would be, empty where her heart would be, empty, empty, empty.

For a moment, they look to the sky and see the evening sun, the only star that dared witness them. She does not feel the warmth on her face, or the cool breeze blowing through her fur, only the empty nothing. So, with limp legs, she stumbles into the field, towards the distant tree line, and thinks of home.

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i have a couple questions about honeyspring's kits. what even happened to make them phase out of existence and non existence? did they die too soon to make it to starclan? did the mourningsbane somehow make it so that they couldn't go to the afterlife?

what did they even look like?

I say that Honeyspring's kits phase in and out of existence because while they physically exist, it's difficult to say if they could form spirits! They never had the chance to form likes, dislikes, friendships, etc...and they never will.

They're blank slates, and they'll be that way forever, never to grow up or become their own individuals, can something like that even form a tangible spirit? Can they exist in an afterlife when they never had the chance to exist at all?

Though, here's what Honeyspring's kits spiritually look like if you're interested! I do have actual designs for them from The Incident, but they were a bit gruesome! <3

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I kind of imagine Honeyspring to sound like Bambi's mom when Honeyspring was alive. I always loved her voice because it was so soft and comforting

OP, I cannot thank you enough for bestowing upon me the most perfect voice claim! I never really thought about how pre-death Honeyspring would sound, but this is definitely a top contender <3

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If I could, I'd give you my still-beating heart.

Moon 1, Pt. 2.

Beginning. Go back?<< Proceed? >>

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A little white lie never hurt anyone. I promise.

Moon 1, Pt. 1.

Beginning. Go back?<< Proceed? >>

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Honeyspring darling we would LOVE to hear your secret! A secret for a secret - Starclan can’t h e a r y o u

Honeyspring stares blankly forwards, but smiles wider nonetheless, and mumbles into the dead air.

Pb nlwv kdyh qr idwkhu.

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So I wanted to ask to have something clarified to me. Is the Honeyspring we see outside the burrow her spirit, or did she manage to dig her way out? Or more specifically how does her haunting work?

That's an excellent question that I haven't admittedly been super clear on, so bear with me, 'cause my thought process is a little wonky! <3

Honeyspring can exist in two spaces: as a spirit and a physical self.

Her spirit is self-explanatory; it is how they appear as an apparition. She is capable of making herself look "softer" (as depicted in Moon 1, Pt. 2) but can't fully disguise her blemishes. Furthermore, as a spirit, she can travel virtually anywhere in LutumClan, but only select cats can see them, like Sweetkit. She also can't fully interact with material things.

Her physical self is her actual, rotting body. Their body was buried in what was originally going to be her nursery; many of the old tunnels collapsed inwards, so she couldn't move her physical body for a long time. Honeyspring recently dug their way out of the burrow (shown in Cradle), and now her body is just wandering about. The body can interact with material things and can be seen by any cat. It is not bound by LutumClan's borders.

The body and spirit do not exist at once, however. If Honeyspring is acting as an apparition, then her physical body is lying limp somewhere. If her body's moving around, then Honeyspring's spirit is occupying it.